Hooper Says Cheap Trial Are A Ripoff... Dont Be A Sheep!

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  • Hooper
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 2210

    #1

    Hooper Says Cheap Trial Are A Ripoff... Dont Be A Sheep!

    I'm serious. I have an extra $500,000.00 sitting around to spend on new customers.

    http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...79#post2432779
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  • Hooper
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 2210

    #2
    I know that many of you chickenshit cocksuckers will be to scared to actually post....

    But you can icq me or wiseman and we'll keep your *smart* identity a secret
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    • boneprone
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jan 2001
      • 34415

      #3
      my nuts itch

      Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones
      Bow to the Power - Still BP4L
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      Learn about it kids.

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      • Sly_RJ
        Live Hard - Die Hard
        • Feb 2002
        • 17042

        #4
        I've heard they don't convert or retain any better. Doesn't make any sense to push them to me. Maybe I'll have to try one out to see if it's true.
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        • Hooper
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2001
          • 2210

          #5
          Ok. Last post before I go to watch CSI...

          I hate these little promos that promise big bucks per signup.. so i'm not promising big bucks on little promos.

          Some people pay 25 bucks for a 10 buck signup..

          I'm paying $45-$50 NO BULLSHIT.. NO RULES... for a $3.00 three day trial... and we dont shave.. you can even try test signups whenever you want!
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          • Joe Average
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2003
            • 785

            #6
            Originally posted by boneprone
            my nuts itch
            crabs?
            I used to get high on life but then I built up a tolerance.

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            • Hooper
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2001
              • 2210

              #7
              boneprone.. all i have to say is *NOT ME!*... i was tested before our shoot!

              :D
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              • bigdog
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2001
                • 6964

                #8
                good going hooper and he is a mac user hehe

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                • WiredGuy
                  Pounding Googlebot
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 34517

                  #9
                  You know what Hooper, I tend to agree with you. While I believe these programs will definitely increase volume and transactions, at the same time I tend to believe this program offers better ROI for the sponsor programs because of the exits and cross-sales.

                  Granted, I'm not a sponsor so I can't really speak from experience, but I'm not convinced that I should take a pay cut of $15 per join for this new model. I have reason to believe that my traffic will actually convert better with the low cost trial versus a $10 monthly (calculating revenue per click). So until I speak to some experienced webmasters who deal with similiar traffic like mine, I'll stick to TCG, Silvercash and Quickbuck.

                  No offense to the new programs or your models, but I'm not switching just yet.

                  WG
                  I play with Google.

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                  • 12clicks
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 19814

                    #10
                    hooper, drop me a fucking email. I meant to contact you long before now.
                    Let me make you some money.

                    [email protected]
                    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                    • Sly_RJ
                      Live Hard - Die Hard
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 17042

                      #11
                      Whoa whoa whoa. What the fuck? You have a $1 monthly recurring program, paying out $25 a pop... how many cross-sells do you have and how much are they for?
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                      • Hooper
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 2210

                        #12
                        the $1.00 per month recurring at $1.00 per month program pays $25.00 per signup. flat. no bullshit.. we have a single.. (sometimes it goes to a double) cross sell depending upon what wiseman is doing with his magic... but it's always to a free trial... so trust.. we're not making our money there... trust :D
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                        • Hooper
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 2210

                          #13
                          12 clicks.. i have LOVED your nonadult traffic.. i need to get more of it.. very soon..

                          if you have adult traffic too. hell... i'm game there too :D

                          you have mail!
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                          • Hooper
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 2210

                            #14
                            i'm not trying to bag on my brothers.. but damn.. i mean.. 10 bucks for a trial??? jeez... thats higher than a hooker at a convention!!!
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                            • 12clicks
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 19814

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Hooper
                              12 clicks.. i have LOVED your nonadult traffic.. i need to get more of it.. very soon..

                              if you have adult traffic too. hell... i'm game there too :D

                              you have mail!
                              Hoop, this is a different idea. I think it a winner. We'll see what you think in the morning.
                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                              • The Truth Hurts
                                Zph7YXfjMhg
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 15792

                                #16
                                Speaking of ripoffs....
                                oh nevermind...
                                most people here don't have memories that go back that far.

                                Last edited by The Truth Hurts; 09-25-2003, 07:05 PM.

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                                • Amputate Your Head
                                  There can be only one
                                  • Aug 2001
                                  • 39075

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Hooper
                                  i'm not trying to bag on my brothers.. but damn.. i mean.. 10 bucks for a trial??? jeez... thats higher than a hooker at a convention!!!
                                  where do you see $10 for a trial?
                                  SIG TOO BIG

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                                  • Hooper
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 2210

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
                                    Speaking of ripoffs....
                                    oh nevermind...
                                    most people here don't have memories that go back that far.

                                    dont make things.

                                    make them better :D

                                    if you can rip me off and make a mil.. i'll respect you that much more..

                                    i liked brads post the other night.. innovation is way over rated.

                                    tell RB thanks for http://www.annsxxx.com ... then tell bangbus thanks for http://www.slutbus.com .. then tell nasty dollars thanks for http://www.ryansbeachhouse.com and then when you want to bag on me for being a copycat you can go look at several programs that ripped off my sites.. this is not a game about being first.. it's a game about being BEST!
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                                    • Wiseman
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 2990

                                      #19
                                      Well if the user has to put up $10 bucks right off the bat... to the user it is still $10.00!!!
                                      If $10.00 programs were the best way to make $$$ it would have happened long ago!!!!!

                                      Fucking $50 on a 2.99 trial will make he who sends us traffic more $$$$ PERIOD!!!


                                      Again I will offer my cell phone to anyone who hasnt reached us online.... 5096680000 Thats the hotline to $50 trial jones!!!
                                      Hit me online for your join link or call me!!!!

                                      Looks like no sleep for ole WISEMAN tonight...
                                      [*]E-mail: [email protected][*]ICQ: 109726012[*]AIM: QbWiseman

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                                      • The Truth Hurts
                                        Zph7YXfjMhg
                                        • Nov 2002
                                        • 15792

                                        #20
                                        I didn't drop any names Hooper...
                                        But it's nice to see someone actually admit where they came from for once.

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                                        • 49thParallel
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Jul 2002
                                          • 1197

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by 12clicks


                                          Hoop, this is a different idea. I think it a winner. We'll see what you think in the morning.
                                          I am beating a dead horse... And if I don't stop I am going to get banned.
                                          Last edited by Eric; 09-26-2003, 07:35 AM.

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                                          • uranidiot
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Sep 2003
                                            • 566

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
                                            I didn't drop any names Hooper...
                                            But it's nice to see someone actually admit where they came from for once.

                                            Unlike you.

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                                            • Hooper
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 2210

                                              #23
                                              i like it!
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                                              • uranidiot
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Sep 2003
                                                • 566

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by 49thParallel


                                                Hmmm..let me guess...a traffic model that downloads trojans, adware and spyware to surfer's computers.
                                                12clicks would never do that. What are you saying?

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                                                • Hooper
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                  • 2210

                                                  #25
                                                  12 clicks would never do what?? i'm confused.
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                                                  • lil2rich4u2
                                                    ICQ: 175171926
                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 11046

                                                    #26
                                                    Hooper, i dont even know you ... but this post is top class.

                                                    i think you said exactly what a lot of people were thinking, but were afraid to say.

                                                    not digging the whole "ill pay 50 if you leave them ...." stuff, but its your game, i wont touch it.


                                                    Thanks for the post, and thanks for the experienced insight.
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                                                    • uranidiot
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                      • 566

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
                                                      Hooper, i dont even know you ... but this post is top class.

                                                      i think you said exactly what a lot of people were thinking, but were afraid to say.

                                                      not digging the whole "ill pay 50 if you leave them ...." stuff, but its your game, i wont touch it.


                                                      Thanks for the post, and thanks for the experienced insight.
                                                      Fuck off.

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                                                      • Rich J.
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Apr 2002
                                                        • 589

                                                        #28
                                                        Hooper, you could payout $80 and most WM's would probably be making less than they are now with the same traffic to 10 Dollar Cash. Let me know when your ready to setup an account.

                                                        You guys would probably kill it with the $10 stuff in your exits. Then you could use all the extra revenue to help offset how much your gonna have to raise payouts to keep up.
                                                        Adult Web Marketing Specialist with 10 years of Industry Experience - CONTACT ME

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                                                        • The Truth Hurts
                                                          Zph7YXfjMhg
                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                          • 15792

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by uranidiot


                                                          Unlike you.
                                                          No need, I'm not here to promote anything.

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                                                          • Hooper
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                            • 2210

                                                            #30
                                                            i'll add that to my little black book.

                                                            $80 per $2.99 trial will end up paying less than $25 per $10 trial...

                                                            where was my head?

                                                            thx
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                                                            • slapass
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                              • 14625

                                                              #31
                                                              I would love to push quickbucks but I am not going to do 20 signups a day for you. You opening to little guys?

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                                                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                best designer on GFY
                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                • 30307

                                                                #32
                                                                Well the poisons out and the consumer wants a better deal thats pretty clear these days.

                                                                Glad to see some sponsor program's are bold enough to attempt giving the consumer an actual deal for access, and not be driven for higher payouts from the traffic barons and killing the consumer in the process.

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                                                                • Wiseman
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                  • 2990

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by slapass
                                                                  I would love to push quickbucks but I am not going to do 20 signups a day for you. You opening to little guys?
                                                                  Hit me up bro!! We will get you squared away!!!
                                                                  CHECK THE SIG FOR CONTACTS
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                                                                  • drunkdollars
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Apr 2002
                                                                    • 2734

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by THE WISEMAN


                                                                    Hit me up bro!! We will get you squared away!!!
                                                                    CHECK THE SIG FOR CONTACTS
                                                                    QuickBucks will also payout for your icq list ;)

                                                                    Sigs are so 2003
                                                                    SIGS ARE GAY

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                                                                    • Wiseman
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                      • 2990

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by drunkdollars


                                                                      QuickBucks will also payout for your icq list ;)

                                                                      Sigs are so 2003
                                                                      HELL YEA!!!!!!!!!!!! $25 dollar's Paypal Just for spamming your entire ICQ list!!!!!
                                                                      [*]E-mail: [email protected][*]ICQ: 109726012[*]AIM: QbWiseman

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                                                                      • Stevie Ward
                                                                        Registered User
                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                        • 96

                                                                        #36
                                                                        $50 DAMN....I am on it. Your shit has always converted the best for us. How long is this payout going to last?

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                                                                        • Rich J.
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                                          • 589

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Hooper
                                                                          $80 per $2.99 trial will end up paying less than $25 per $10 trial...

                                                                          where was my head?

                                                                          thx
                                                                          For one, I think you might be misunderstanding the $10 program. It IS NOT a $10 trial. It is $10 a month straight up, for a full on paysite membership with exclusive content and no upsells. This shit sells... Don't take my word for it. Go ahead and put us up for a couple day's and see the conversions for yourself.
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                                                                          • Lensman
                                                                            GFY Chaperone
                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                            • 9846

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Hooper
                                                                            I'm serious. I have an extra $500,000.00 sitting around to spend on new customers.

                                                                            Is that all?

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                                                                            • GrimShawn
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                              • 8120

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Wiseman is my friend

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                                                                              • Wiseman
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                • 2990

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Lensman


                                                                                Is that all?
                                                                                I think he has a little more then that!!! But he is a Jew after all so he will never tell!!!
                                                                                [*]E-mail: [email protected][*]ICQ: 109726012[*]AIM: QbWiseman

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                                                                                • Wiseman
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                  • 2990

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by GrimShawn
                                                                                  Wiseman is my friend

                                                                                  And you are mine!!!!
                                                                                  [*]E-mail: [email protected][*]ICQ: 109726012[*]AIM: QbWiseman

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                                                                                  • Wiseman
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                    • 2990

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Rich J.


                                                                                    For one, I think you might be misunderstanding the $10 program. It IS NOT a $10 trial. It is $10 a month straight up, for a full on paysite membership with exclusive content and no upsells. This shit sells... Don't take my word for it. Go ahead and put us up for a couple day's and see the conversions for yourself.
                                                                                    The point is Rich you are still asking the little broke pervert to whip out $10 RIGHT NOW!!

                                                                                    We are only asking em to pull out $2.99

                                                                                    So now everyone sending traffic has to hope that the traffic they are sending is NOW willing to Spend $10 UPFRONT!!

                                                                                    We are betting not as many will!!!!!!!
                                                                                    [*]E-mail: [email protected][*]ICQ: 109726012[*]AIM: QbWiseman

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                                                                                    • Hooper
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                      • 2210

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Is that all?
                                                                                      Lens meet Wiseman.. Wiseman.. meet lensman :D
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                                                                                      • Lensman
                                                                                        GFY Chaperone
                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                        • 9846

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Hooper


                                                                                        Lens meet Wiseman.. Wiseman.. meet lensman :D
                                                                                        My pleasure

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                                                                                        • Wiseman
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                          • 2990

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Hooper


                                                                                          Lens meet Wiseman.. Wiseman.. meet lensman :D
                                                                                          We have met many a times!
                                                                                          I believe we were even haveing shots with Kevin from TopBucks together in Miami
                                                                                          [*]E-mail: [email protected][*]ICQ: 109726012[*]AIM: QbWiseman

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                                                                                          • Rich J.
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Apr 2002
                                                                                            • 589

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            It's not that I dont think you guys run a top notch program because you do, but times are changing and the old model is just not cutting it anymore. There has to be a breaking point. I have been marketing trial programs for years and after seeing the stats on $10, I am convinced that point is now. These guy's are sick of getting hit for so much $ just so the site operator can pay their bills. However they don't seem to mind paying a fair price for a good product and that is being proven over and over again in our webmasters stats. If you guys can continue to kick ass on the per trial stuff, more power to you but I assure there is no "scam" invovled with the path adult.com and other successful programs have decided to take.
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                                                                                            • Wiseman
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                              • 2990

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by THE WISEMAN


                                                                                              We have met many a times!
                                                                                              I believe we were even haveing shots with Kevin from TopBucks together in Miami.. Maybe we were to drunk
                                                                                              [*]E-mail: [email protected][*]ICQ: 109726012[*]AIM: QbWiseman

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                                                                                              • BradShaw
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                                                • 7840

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Lets revisit the $10 programs in 6 months, think they will be small potatoes, maybe make up 5% of the game at the most. Bottom line is they are more of a solution for programs with CB issues, they are a solution for a webmaster looking to maximize income. Of course Lens and Dave, and many others wish everyone would move to such a model, but this is a free economic system... Sometimes too free.
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                                                                                                • SleazyDream
                                                                                                  I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                  • 41470

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  just my two pennies but i think hooper is right TODAY.

                                                                                                  Tomorrow is another story

                                                                                                  in a couple of months when the new chargeback ratio hammer falls I think lens and the others with $10 programs will be on top and laughing as it's a more sound business model that doesn't TRICK people into paying something they never really thought they'd have to pay more for.
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                                                                                                  Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                                  • Wiseman
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                                    • 2990

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                    just my two pennies but i think hooper is right TODAY.

                                                                                                    Tomorrow is another story

                                                                                                    in a couple of months when the new chargeback ratio hammer falls I think lens and the others with $10 programs will be on top and laughing as it's a more sound business model that doesn't TRICK people into paying something they never really thought they'd have to pay more for.

                                                                                                    GOD!!! NOW SEND US SOME DAMN TRAFFIC SLEAZY!!!!!!!
                                                                                                    [*]E-mail: [email protected][*]ICQ: 109726012[*]AIM: QbWiseman

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