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  • GigaChris
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 1383

    #1

    breaking news on Acacia

    I just read this

    http://xbiz.com/articles/index.php?article_idp=680
    Last edited by GigaChris; 09-25-2003, 12:22 PM.
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  • TheEbonyFelony
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2003
    • 1964

    #2
    sounds like an ultimatium to me
    no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

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    • GrimShawn
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2002
      • 8120

      #3
      GIGA DAMN! that's some shit

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      • NBDesign
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2003
        • 5814

        #4
        Berman added that his company is giving the adult industry fair notice of the royalty hike and that a signed agreement needs to be received by Nov. 30 in order for companies to continue to take advantage of Acacia's introductory rates and waivers.
        I cannot believe they can only target one group and have a valid lawsuit... How can tthey justify in a court of law that only one group should have to pay these stuipd fees?

        Someone said that there is no money in mainstream sites so they target adult...

        Ok.. CNN, MSNBC are broke? THey do not use a ton of video? Think of the $$ they could make from these two sites alone.

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        • SteveLightspeed
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          • Jul 2001
          • 7940

          #5
          maybe we should all settle, then sue them for abuse of monopoly and unfair business practices.

          just a thought, we are still in the fight.
          Abra-cadabra!

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          • zzgundamnzz
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2002
            • 6102

            #6


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            • rooster
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2003
              • 2384

              #7
              its sad that some companies took the sweetheart deal rather than fight the good fight. This acacia shit will blow over one way or another over the next year or so.
              Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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              • NBDesign
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2003
                • 5814

                #8
                Originally posted by Lightspeed
                maybe we should all settle, then sue them for abuse of monopoly and unfair business practices.

                just a thought, we are still in the fight.
                Not a bad idea... actually a great idea... but getting everyone to stick together would be a real bitch....

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                • GigaChris
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                  • Dec 2002
                  • 1383

                  #9
                  Last edited by GigaChris; 09-25-2003, 12:31 PM.
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                  • InsaneGreen
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 996

                    #10
                    Originally posted by GigaChris
                    I dont understand why they dont go after companies like Real networks, Microsoft & Apples Quicktime... These are the companies that make the players that allow us to veiw video content on the web
                    we need to email thhose companies ourselves and tell them what acacia is doing, and how much money they are gonna lose because we have to remove videos...
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                    • Oracle Porn
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                      • Oct 2002
                      • 24433

                      #11


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                      • Centurion
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 6033

                        #12
                        Originally posted by NBDesign


                        I cannot believe they can only target one group and have a valid lawsuit... How can tthey justify in a court of law that only one group should have to pay these stuipd fees?

                        Someone said that there is no money in mainstream sites so they target adult...

                        Ok.. CNN, MSNBC are broke? THey do not use a ton of video? Think of the $$ they could make from these two sites alone.

                        God loves america... land of the lawsuit.
                        I wonder if Cnn..Fox, MSNBC, Nbc, Cbs, Abc, etc etc and all local news outlets have signed on with them and paid the "ransom" fee. I mean..they ALL use streaming media. Would be nice to hear something from the attornies of these "big boys" as to what they think and/or are going to do.

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                        • rooster
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2384

                          #13
                          acacia wouldnt pick on those companies because they would get squashed.

                          They came up with a pretty good extortion scheme. Sue adult guys and use alot of legal heat to try and get some licenses. And using sweetheart deals on a handful of bigger companies to try and give credibility to their claims and get more companies to cave.


                          I think the end result will be much like their v-chip thing. It wil get invalidated and those that hold out will get the last laugh.


                          I would rather close my business than give those cocksuckers one red penny.
                          Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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                          • WiredGuy
                            Pounding Googlebot
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 34517

                            #14
                            Which companies are still actively fighting Acacia's patents and haven't settled other than Lightspeed? Any new updates on the Homegrown coalition?

                            WG
                            I play with Google.

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                            • NetRodent
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 3985

                              #15
                              Originally posted by GigaChris
                              I dont understand why they dont go after companies like Real networks, Microsoft & Apples Quicktime... These are the companies that make the players that allow us to veiw video content on the web
                              It because they're after precedents. Acacia views the adult industry as "low hanging fruit". They obviously feel that its easier to intimidate and get legal judgements against adult companies than the likes of Microsoft.

                              Acacia invented nothing. If ANYONE is due royalties for the technology we're using its the following people:
                              http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/
                              http://www.icann.org/biog/cerf.htm
                              http://www.chiariglione.org/mpeg/index.htm
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                              • NBDesign
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 5814

                                #16
                                Originally posted by InsaneGreen

                                we need to email thhose companies ourselves and tell them what acacia is doing, and how much money they are gonna lose because we have to remove videos...
                                I called apple... no one called me back...

                                I wrote to Real Media's legal department and again.. nothing back...

                                I basically told them that I wanted to purchase their product to stream video.. told them my concerns about acacia and their patent and fees... asked if I purchased their program and streamed video if I would be responsible for these fees... and if so, why when I am paying for the software to create such files... again... nothing.

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                                • InsaneGreen
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                                  • Aug 2003
                                  • 996

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by NBDesign


                                  I called apple... no one called me back...

                                  I wrote to Real Media's legal department and again.. nothing back...

                                  I basically told them that I wanted to purchase their product to stream video.. told them my concerns about acacia and their patent and fees... asked if I purchased their program and streamed video if I would be responsible for these fees... and if so, why when I am paying for the software to create such files... again... nothing.
                                  seemed like a good idea.
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                                  • NBDesign
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2003
                                    • 5814

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by NetRodent


                                    It because they're after precedents. Acacia views the adult industry as "low hanging fruit". They obviously feel that its easier to intimidate and get legal judgements against adult companies than the likes of Microsoft.

                                    Acacia invented nothing. If ANYONE is due royalties for the technology we're using its the following people:
                                    http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/
                                    http://www.icann.org/biog/cerf.htm
                                    http://www.chiariglione.org/mpeg/index.htm
                                    Isn't that discrimination? I agree with the lightspeed post... we should sue them back... if anything for discrimination. Sorry... but that is the same as saying that blacks need to ride in the back of the bus...

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                                    • plexer
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 1339

                                      #19
                                      I'M FREEEEE!!!!

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                                      • NBDesign
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jan 2003
                                        • 5814

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by InsaneGreen

                                        seemed like a good idea.
                                        Thought if they could make a sale they would care a bit more... I tried... all I can do.. cannot afford to go to court right now or I would be fighting this along with the big boys...

                                        A good defense lawyer should bring up the fact they they are only targeting adult and if they really cared about protecting their pat. they would be going after EVERYONE that is streaming.. just like the RIAA is sueing 12 and 66 year olds... no discrimination there... but this is full on discrimination.

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                                        • Strife
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                                          • Aug 2001
                                          • 4534

                                          #21
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                                          • Dcat
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Aug 2003
                                            • 1607

                                            #22
                                            hmm..

                                            According to Acacia, they have 5 U.S. and 17 international patents on their DMT technology. Upon further examination, I see patents registered in the following countries:

                                            United States (X5)
                                            Taiwan
                                            Mexico
                                            Switzerland
                                            France
                                            Italy
                                            Luxembourg
                                            Netherlands
                                            Sweden
                                            Great Britain
                                            Greece
                                            Japan
                                            Belgium
                                            Spain
                                            Monaco
                                            Denmark
                                            Germany
                                            Austria

                                            I notice that there are a few rather glaring omissions in the scope of their patents, namely Canada, and Australia. Does anyone know anything about this? Why would Acacia not file in Canada or Australia?

                                            I'm curious to know if any Canadian or Australian companies have been contacted by Acacia yet?



                                            ACACIA

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                                            • Far-L
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2002
                                              • 6065

                                              #23
                                              Acacia is targeting more than just Adult!!!

                                              Acacia has also targeted online education.. in fact one school for disabled students shut down its program rather than pay or license.

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                                              • JMM
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Apr 2001
                                                • 1755

                                                #24
                                                The companies that settled, settled. That is all I have to say on that.

                                                The defense group is fighting. Homegrown, Video Secrets, Ademia, and others.

                                                In the next day or so, you will see how strongly we are fighting. I believe that you will be pleased.

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                                                • Ludedude
                                                  Suck it!
                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                  • 4432

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Dcat
                                                  hmm..

                                                  .:snip:.

                                                  I notice that there are a few rather glaring omissions in the scope of their patents, namely Canada, and Australia. Does anyone know anything about this? Why would Acacia not file in Canada or Australia?

                                                  I'm curious to know if any Canadian or Australian companies have been contacted by Acacia yet?

                                                  ACACIA
                                                  It's my understanding that Acacia was denied a patent in Canada. I can't believe those fuckers got that right

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                                                  • NetRodent
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                    • 3985

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Far-L
                                                    Acacia is targeting more than just Adult!!!

                                                    Acacia has also targeted online education.. in fact one school for disabled students shut down its program rather than pay or license.

                                                    We have a nice announcement coming up that should respond well to the issues that are raised here in this thread...
                                                    Please keep us posted.
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