SinEmpire, are you going to pay Amp for the sites you are using?

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  • Tibetan Pimp
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    • Aug 2003
    • 63

    #251
    I ask this.

    Say this gets settled. Say Amp gets paid.

    What happens next week when someone sees another stolen design in Brad's program?

    Don't you see the shit that this attracts.

    Does this allow brad to go rip off as many designs as he wants, and when the owner comes-a-knocking, simply offer to pay then?
    Last edited by Tibetan Pimp; 09-24-2003, 11:17 PM.

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    • beemk
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      • Jan 2002
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      #252
      Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
      This is FUCKED UP. The man is begging you to call him and settle the matter, so FUCKING CALL HIM.

      I guess it's true, that having money does not equate to maturity.

      Before this thread was started, was Sin contacted? From reading every post in the thread I see no evidence of that.

      But I DO see that Amp has not ONCE contradicted Sin's claim that he offered Amp money almost a year ago.

      Remove the blinders, look at the situation from an unbiased eye, and call the man.

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      • Mr Pheer
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        • Dec 2002
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        #253
        Originally posted by TheJimmy
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        • TurboAngel
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          #254

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          • Lensman
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            • Jan 2001
            • 9846

            #255
            Originally posted by Carrie

            The point here isn't to get paid, it's to lynch Brad.
            If the point was to get paid, a phone call would've been made the minute Brad announced his program.

            Brad has offered multiple times in this thread to pay for the sites - just as he did a year ago. And Amp is not speaking up - just as he didn't speak up a year ago.

            It's a lynching, plain and simple. Money was never the goal.
            Except that Amp didn't start this thread, I did.

            Simple fact is that Brad never offered to pay Amp. I pay him highly, and it's improper to use his work without paying him regardless of how he came into possession of it.

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            • SinEmpire
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              • Nov 2001
              • 9813

              #256
              I just don't get it... why? why? What have I done to deserve a public lynching for something I've never been given the opportunity to correct? Why haven't either of you called me? Why aren't you responding to my comments about how I thought we were friends?

              Is this some SWOIT kind of rouse or what? I mean, I bought advertising on GFY this afternoon but this isn't the kind of thread I thought we'd hump to bring attention to my new program.

              This hurts Lens and Amp.

              Brad
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              • liquidmoe
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                • Mar 2002
                • 4994

                #257
                Originally posted by Lensman


                Except that Amp didn't start this thread, I did.

                Simple fact is that Brad never offered to pay Amp. I pay him highly, and it's improper to use his work without paying him regardless of how he came into possession of it.
                Does that mean a request for payment has been made to Brad today regarding the designs, because it doesnt look like he refused payment?

                Take Luck!

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                • BlueDesignStudios
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                  • Feb 2003
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                  #258
                  Originally posted by ytcracker
                  lens is going to win an xbox with this thread

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                  • Sausage
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                    • Oct 2002
                    • 3012

                    #259
                    This thread really irks me ...

                    Ok ... sure it's not a design job, but recently a certian Dialer was sold to a certian huge Sponsor Program, and while we are only still owed a few $thousand rumor has it that if you are owed $ its gonna be REALLY hard to get them..... unless you are someone big and *important* that is.

                    Same thing, same principle, but I haven't seen many threads on it, or it even mentioned once.
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                    • Amputate Your Head
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                      • Aug 2001
                      • 39075

                      #260
                      Invoice will be posted here.


                      coming soon....


                      but first.....


                      Brad, I want a temp pass to the members areas, so I can justify my invoice. (all of them) And a week is unacceptable. Access me now, while they are live. Otherwise I will be forced to speculate. You can email me at a/m/p/@a/d/u/l/t/./c/o/m/

                      remove the slashes.
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                      • PrivateEye
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                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1784

                        #261
                        Originally posted by cutetwink
                        If he's suck a crook how come his banner is flying on here today? Did he pay for it? This is cheep you take the mans $$ for a banner spot then try to make him look bad like this...

                        Attacking the advertising again?

                        Somebody call Brad Shaw at home and wake him up he would enjoy this

                        Lens and Amp both attacked him for how he handle business on here....he got fucked on alot more money and nobody offered to pay him back...but this poor bastard is getting stabbed in the back with no warning at all. Seems to me like he is having to beg...lol...funny shit

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                        • Donny
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                          • May 2002
                          • 13754

                          #262
                          Originally posted by Lensman


                          So you were going to cut a check without this thread? Hahaha
                          Did anyone privately email him and ask him to?

                          Amp does NOT contradict Sin's claim to attempt to pay him a YEAR ago.

                          Sounds like a good man to me.

                          I can tell you ONE THING, though.... after reading this thread I WILL NOT BE CUTTING A CHECK for advertising on GFY (I fully intented to advertise this month: I had Eric email ad rates to me yesterday). I now see how advertisers are treated.

                          A private phone call or email would likely have resulted in a check being issued.

                          This is VERY, VERY fucked up!

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                          • integrated
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                            • Apr 2003
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                            #263
                            Originally posted by Honeyslut


                            okay dickless

                            that hurt

                            i know its small please dont pick on me

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                            • neewwman
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                              #264
                              This is totally fucked.

                              Calling someone out on this board should be an absolute last resort.

                              Brad is more concerned than anyone else I know about his reputation for integrity and fair dealing. Making all this public before there was a fair effort to resolve it privately is a sucker punch.

                              No one has yet disputed Brad's version of the facts, although some apparently think he should have just walked away from a $6,000 investment. Seems to me that if he offered compensation and Amp didn't take it, Brad's in the clear.

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                              • chodadog
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                                #265
                                Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                Invoice will be posted here.


                                coming soon....
                                An invoice should have been the first thing sent to Brad's email. You should have given him a chance to pay you without dragging his name through the mud. I simply can't believe the lack of professionalism in this thread.
                                26 + 6 = 1

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                                • XxXotic
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                                  #266
                                  this is wacky
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                                  • Mr Pheer
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                                    #267
                                    somebody lock this thread

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                                    • integrated
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                                      #268
                                      this thread is as full as a prostitute on a Saturday night

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                                      • liquidmoe
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                                        #269
                                        This thread could have been avoided it seems.

                                        Take Luck!

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                                        • Amputate Your Head
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                                          • Aug 2001
                                          • 39075

                                          #270
                                          Originally posted by neewwman
                                          Brad is more concerned than anyone else I know about his reputation for integrity and fair dealing.
                                          oh really?
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                                          • Lensman
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                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 9846

                                            #271
                                            Originally posted by chodadog


                                            An invoice should have been the first thing sent to Brad's email. You should have given him a chance to pay you without dragging his name through the mud. I simply can't believe the lack of professionalism in this thread.
                                            He was on notice about stolen designs. Enough said.

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                                            • vapewiz
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                                              #272
                                              WAS BRAD BANNED? IF SO THAT IS BULLSHIT.

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                                              • Ludedude
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                                                • Jun 2001
                                                • 4432

                                                #273
                                                Originally posted by Lensman


                                                He was on notice about stolen designs. Enough said.
                                                How much to buy this treatment for someone else who stole one of mine?

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                                                • 4Pics
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                                                  #274
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                                                  • Donny
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                                                    • May 2002
                                                    • 13754

                                                    #275
                                                    Originally posted by neewwman
                                                    This is totally fucked.

                                                    Calling someone out on this board should be an absolute last resort.

                                                    Brad is more concerned than anyone else I know about his reputation for integrity and fair dealing. Making all this public before there was a fair effort to resolve it privately is a sucker punch.

                                                    No one has yet disputed Brad's version of the facts, although some apparently think he should have just walked away from a $6,000 investment. Seems to me that if he offered compensation and Amp didn't take it, Brad's in the clear.
                                                    A-fucking-men!

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                                                    • Honeyslut
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                                                      #276
                                                      Originally posted by integrated



                                                      that hurt

                                                      i know its small please dont pick on me
                                                      Then don't call me an airhead..



                                                      If you guys are going to dish it out at me, don't fucking whine when I give it back


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                                                      • TheJimmy
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                                                        #277
                                                        Originally posted by MrPheer


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                                                        • Lensman
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                                                          #278
                                                          Originally posted by DonovanPhillips


                                                          A-fucking-men!
                                                          Let everyone know the url to to take your work from.

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                                                          • Ludedude
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                                                            #279
                                                            Originally posted by Honeyslut



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                                                            Pics?

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                                                            • Mr.Fiction
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                                                              • Feb 2002
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                                                              #280
                                                              Originally posted by cutetwink
                                                              WAS BRAD BANNED? IF SO THAT IS BULLSHIT.
                                                              Brad and Labret in the same thread?
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                                                              • liquidmoe
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                                                                #281
                                                                Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


                                                                Brad and Labret in the same thread?
                                                                Maybe they are actually discussing the matters in private instead of playing tag on the board

                                                                Take Luck!

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                                                                • Lensman
                                                                  GFY Chaperone
                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                  • 9846

                                                                  #282
                                                                  Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


                                                                  Are Brad and Labret the same person?
                                                                  We did have to block some Labret IPs tonite. Does he use the same?

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                                                                  • Tibetan Pimp
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                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                    • 63

                                                                    #283
                                                                    Maybe Amp hasn't addressed the $ yet, but Brad has not addressed why he feels it's okay to launch a program with designs HE ADMITTEDLY DID / DOES NOT KNOW WHO DESIGNED.

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                                                                    • Groove
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                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                      • 3852

                                                                      #284
                                                                      Originally posted by chodadog
                                                                      Like this couldn't have been handled simply by emailing Brad. Brad is solid. He's never ripped anyone off. He offered to pay Amp, and amp declined. What the hell makes you (Lens) and Amp believe that he wouldn't have paid if he had been asked to privately? I wholeheartedly believe he would have. He is one of the most honest people in the business.

                                                                      And even if you didn't believe he would pay (for some fucked up reason), you couldn't have at least <i>tried</i> before dragging someone's name through the mud?

                                                                      He paid for those designs in good faith. He offered to pay the original designers for them. Amp said that it was duane that owed him, and not Brad. I don't see the problem.

                                                                      Using the stolen car analogy:

                                                                      Amp sells his car to Duane, and Duane sells it to Brad. Duane never pays Amp for the car, and Brad realises, oh shit.. this car is stolen. Brad offers to pay Amp for the car, having already lost a bunch of money to Duane. Amp declines, and says he'll get the money that Duane owes him. That means Amp ends up with the cash he is entitled to. Brad gets the designs he paid for. Duane ends up with nothing.

                                                                      Amp's inability to collect from Duane makes Brad the crook? What the fuck are you guys smoking?

                                                                      Again. Handled privately, i have no doubt that Brad would have paid if he was asked. This thread is a fucking joke.
                                                                      Good summary

                                                                      Welcome to another GFY lynching

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                                                                      • Honeyslut
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                                                                        #285
                                                                        Brad is a nice guy and probably the only one I would hate to have seen a thread like this .
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                                                                        • ytcracker
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                                                                          • Dec 2002
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                                                                          #286
                                                                          this thread is a quick mover
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                                                                          • liquidmoe
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                                                                            #287
                                                                            Originally posted by Tibetan Pimp
                                                                            Maybe Amp hasn't addressed the $ yet, but Brad has not addressed why he feels it's okay to launch a program with designs HE ADMITTEDLY DID / DOES NOT KNOW WHO DESIGNED.
                                                                            He stated he tracked down the designers and compensated them and/or discussed the matter well before the program as launched. That hasnt bee disputed yet.

                                                                            Take Luck!

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                                                                            • Amputate Your Head
                                                                              There can be only one
                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                              • 39075

                                                                              #288
                                                                              Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                              Amp does NOT contradict Sin's claim to attempt to pay him a YEAR ago.
                                                                              no one ever offered to pay me for that work, other than Duane, oh he offered all right.... which he did not do....


                                                                              ass. How's your fucking foot taste.
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                                                                              • Tibetan Pimp
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                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                • 63

                                                                                #289
                                                                                Originally posted by liquidmoe
                                                                                He stated he tracked down the designers and compensated them and/or discussed the matter well before the program as launched. That hasnt bee disputed yet.
                                                                                Wrong. He stated he TRIED to track them down before launching the program. He admits, hos own fucking words, he does not know who should be paid for the designs.

                                                                                Your saying because he tried, he should be able to use the designs now?

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                                                                                • onlymovies
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                                                                                  #290
                                                                                  Originally posted by SinEmpire


                                                                                  Lensman, without even thinking twice about it. Amp and I talked about this a long time ago and he told me that the debt was Duane's. If Amp had a change of heart on the situation, which he clearly has now that the sites are launched, I absolutely would have done whatever he thought was needed to make the situation right.

                                                                                  Brad, don't sweat it. Whatever is going on don't try and figure it out.....just forget about it. Pay the man and be done with it.
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                                                                                  • Carrie
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                                                                                    #291
                                                                                    Originally posted by Lensman


                                                                                    Except that Amp didn't start this thread, I did.
                                                                                    Yeppers, and 2/3rds of the way down on the 2nd page of this thread you tell Brad that he never should've gotten on your bad side.

                                                                                    Everyone sees the old thread Lens, and they see Brad offering again and again in this thread to pay up (with no response). Let Amp give the man a figure, because it's backfiring like a machine gun at this point.

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                                                                                    • Sausage
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                                                                                      #292
                                                                                      Noone is coming out of this thread clean.

                                                                                      Why it couldn't have been handled in private I don't know. Brad must not be large enough to justify that courtesy or am I missing something ?
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                                                                                      • Donny
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                                                                                        • May 2002
                                                                                        • 13754

                                                                                        #293
                                                                                        Originally posted by Lensman


                                                                                        Let everyone know the url to to take your work from.

                                                                                        Let me summarize what I've gathered from this board, that Amp has NOT disputed:

                                                                                        Sin: Hey Amp, I bought some designs. Found out they may have been stolen from you. This sucks. What do I owe you?

                                                                                        Amp: Nothing. You weren't the thief, it's not your fault.

                                                                                        Sin: Okay, man. If you change your mind let me know.

                                                                                        [ONE YEAR LATER]

                                                                                        Lens: You're a bastard Sin! Why didn't you pay Amp?

                                                                                        Amp: Yeah, why didn't you, ya bitch!

                                                                                        Sin: What the fuck? I offered! You declined! Why didn't you let me know you changed your mind and wanted some money? I offered it to you once, why wouldn't I offer it again?

                                                                                        Amp: [silence on this matter]

                                                                                        Lens: You're still a bastard. I won't admit I should have handled this a little better. Looks like you're a good guy after all, but I've stuck my neck out and can't take it back.


                                                                                        That about sums it up....
                                                                                        Last edited by Donny; 09-24-2003, 11:34 PM.

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                                                                                        • Amputate Your Head
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                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                          • 39075

                                                                                          #294
                                                                                          Originally posted by Carrie

                                                                                          Yeppers, and 2/3rds of the way down on the 2nd page of this thread you tell Brad that he never should've gotten on your bad side.

                                                                                          Everyone sees the old thread Lens, and they see Brad offering again and again in this thread to pay up (with no response). Let Amp give the man a figure, because it's backfiring like a machine gun at this point.
                                                                                          as soon as I get access to those members areas wise ass. And if it comes next week, that's too fucking late. I wanna see the shit right fucking now. Before someone changes them.


                                                                                          christ you're fucking annoying.
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                                                                                          • chodadog
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                                                                                            #295
                                                                                            <font size=+3><B>Lens & Amp</b></font>

                                                                                            Seeing as you didn't respond to it, i'll post it again. The car analogy seems to have been used a fair bit in this thread. So, using that analogy:

                                                                                            Amp sells his car to Duane, and Duane sells it to Brad. Duane never pays Amp for the car, and Brad realises, oh shit.. this car is stolen. Brad offers to pay Amp for the car, having already lost a bunch of money to Duane. Amp declines, and says he'll get the money that Duane owes him. That means Amp ends up with the cash he is entitled to. Brad gets the designs he paid for. Duane ends up with nothing.

                                                                                            Amp's inability to collect from Duane makes Brad the crook?

                                                                                            If Amp couldn't have collected from Duane, he should have invoiced Brad, <B><i>privately</i></B>. Then it would be up to Brad to collect from Duane to get his 6 grand back. Problem solved.

                                                                                            Why was this not done?
                                                                                            Last edited by chodadog; 09-24-2003, 11:34 PM.
                                                                                            26 + 6 = 1

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                                                                                            • ytcracker
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                                                                                              #296
                                                                                              Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

                                                                                              That about sums it up....
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                                                                                              • Ludedude
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                                                                                                #297
                                                                                                I can't believe no one has posted this yet...

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                                                                                                • liquidmoe
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                                                                                                  #298
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Tibetan Pimp


                                                                                                  Wrong. He stated he TRIED to track them down before launching the program. He admits, hos own fucking words, he does not know who should be paid for the designs.

                                                                                                  Your saying because he tried, he should be able to use the designs now?
                                                                                                  No, he specifically discussed the matter with Amp before launching the program where he was supposedly (not yet disputed) led to believe that everything was ok since he wasnt the one who actually ripped Amp off. He has made attempts to compensate designers, and no one who has come to him regarding this matter, requesting payment, has been denied as far as I can tell.

                                                                                                  Take Luck!

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                                                                                                  • Ketadream
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                                                                                                    #299
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                                                                                    as soon as I get access to those members areas wise ass. And if it comes next week, that's too fucking late. I wanna see the shit right fucking now. Before someone changes them.


                                                                                                    christ you're fucking annoying.
                                                                                                    So call him...he's asked a few times to be called reguarding this.
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                                                                                                    • Mr Pheer
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                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                      #300
                                                                                                      299....
                                                                                                      Last edited by Mr Pheer; 09-24-2003, 11:36 PM.

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