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  • Veterans Day
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    • Chris
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      #52
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      • Mr.Fiction
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        #53
        Originally posted by playa



        so i guess its true that your available 24/7
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        • Honeyslut
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          #54
          Originally posted by liquidmoe
          Isnt Amp already in this thread?
          Yep at 10:29
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          • SinEmpire
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            #55
            Originally posted by playa



            so i guess its true that your available 24/7
            Yup, even for BS like this my friend. (yawn)

            ...Either Lensman or Amp, if either of you is around give me a call on the 1-866-SINEMPIRE line so we can get this resolved without wasting any more time.

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            • integrated
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              • 4Pics
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                #57
                Originally posted by Honeyslut


                Yep at 10:29
                Amp is watching the sun set?

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                • Amputate Your Head
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                  #58
                  to be fair here, Brad didn't gank me (gank.... my new favorite word for the night) directly. Duane Hansen did. Brad bought these sites and members areas from Duane aka "pensfan" aka "BuckNaked", at a rock bottom price, since Duane was in "haul my scammin' worthless ass outta here" mode. And Duane got the profit and ran. I saw fuckall.

                  But to also be fair on my end, I did a whole lotta work for nothing. Granted, if you're buying something, you would expect the seller to have the right to sell it.... but that's not always the case, and it's wise to be prudent in your research prior to sending someone a check for something they don't own.

                  I own half your program Brad.
                  SIG TOO BIG

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                  • Veterans Day
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by SinEmpire


                    Yup, even for BS like this my friend. (yawn)

                    ...Either Lensman or Amp, if either of you is around give me a call on the 1-866-SINEMPIRE line so we can get this resolved without wasting any more time.

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                    • Lensman
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by SinEmpire


                      I was sleeping until I got a call on my cell phone! Amp's not on ICQ, someone needs to give him a call and wake his ass up too so he can clean up this mess. lol

                      Brad
                      Amp's not correcting me. You made your bed, lay in it.

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                      • Chris
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                        #61
                        Originally posted by 4Pics


                        Amp is watching the sun set?

                        that was like 4 hours ago

                        he is back
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                        • liquidmoe
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                          #62
                          Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                          to be fair here, Brad didn't gank me (gank.... my new favorite word for the night) directly. Duane Hansen did. Brad bought these sites and members areas from Duane aka "pensfan" aka "BuckNaked", at a rock bottom price, since Duane was in "haul my scammin' worthless ass outta here" mode. And Duane got the profit and ran. I saw fuckall.

                          But to also be fair on my end, I did a whole lotta work for nothing. Granted, if you're buying something, you would expect the seller to have the right to sell it.... but that's not always the case, and it's wise to be prudent in your research prior to sending someone a check for something they don't own.

                          I own half your program Brad.
                          What about approaching Duane then since he was the one actually ripping someone off, while Brad is more or less just ripping you off because of ignorance, not by intent. Just a question.

                          Take Luck!

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                          • Mr.Fiction
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                            #63
                            Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                            I own half your program Brad.
                            Half Own3d!
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                            • Lensman
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                              #64
                              Sin, you chose to do business with a known theif, you deserve the repurcussions.

                              Amp has a lien on his work, you are using it. Pay him.

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                              • WiredGuy
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                                #65
                                Originally posted by Sly_RJ
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                                • Amputate Your Head
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                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by liquidmoe
                                  What about approaching Duane then since he was the one actually ripping someone off, while Brad is more or less just ripping you off because of ignorance, not by intent. Just a question.
                                  my deal with Duane was for a percentage of the program. He sold that program and all the work to Brad without my consent. So you tell me....

                                  Do I get a percentage of Brad's program, or does Brad owe me outright for the work?
                                  SIG TOO BIG

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                                  • SinEmpire
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                                    #67
                                    Well then, I'm absolutely shocked. Amp and I talked about this stuff a long time ago. Refer to my post in this thread as a start to refreshing your ailing memories:

                                    http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...0&pagenumber=3

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                                    • Veterans Day
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                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                      my deal with Duane was for a percentage of the program. He sold that program and all the work to Brad without my consent. So you tell me....

                                      Do I get a percentage of Brad's program, or does Brad owe me outright for the work?
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                                      • Sharky
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                                        #69
                                        situations like this absolutely suck.

                                        I've been in the designers shoes, and I can understand the end buyers situation.

                                        if I buy a computer from dell, and dell decides to stiff it's supplyer, does that mean the suplier can come after me?

                                        bad analogy, I know...

                                        sorry to hear you were fucked by pensfan AMP. I was unaware he became a crook.
                                        Sharky

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                                        • liquidmoe
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                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                          my deal with Duane was for a percentage of the program. He sold that program and all the work to Brad without my consent. So you tell me....

                                          Do I get a percentage of Brad's program, or does Brad owe me outright for the work?
                                          Without all the facts, you are deserved compensation, I was just wondering why Duane wasn't approached about this. Unless Brad was knowingly purchasing an entire program. Buying stolen merchandise is still a crime, but so its selling it, just wondering why the seller isn't being hounded, unless of course he is also.

                                          Take Luck!

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                                          • Amputate Your Head
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                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by SinEmpire
                                            Well then, I'm absolutely shocked. Amp and I talked about this stuff a long time ago. Refer to my post in this thread as a start to refreshing your ailing memories:

                                            http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...0&pagenumber=3

                                            Brad
                                            so some half-baked lies from Duane himself is your rebuttal?
                                            SIG TOO BIG

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                                            • SomeCreep
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                                              #72
                                              This is an ethics issue. Bad ethics that he used the adult.com program for reference, but did this guy actually do anything illegal?
                                              Last edited by SomeCreep; 09-24-2003, 09:55 PM.

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                                              • Amputate Your Head
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                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by liquidmoe
                                                Without all the facts, you are deserved compensation, I was just wondering why Duane wasn't approached about this. Unless Brad was knowingly purchasing an entire program. Buying stolen merchandise is still a crime, but so its selling it, just wondering why the seller isn't being hounded, unless of course he is also.
                                                Duane was not only approached, he was verbally fucking abused about it.

                                                you think that matters to him?
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                                                • Lensman
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                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by SinEmpire
                                                  Well then, I'm absolutely shocked. Amp and I talked about this stuff a long time ago. Refer to my post in this thread as a start to refreshing your ailing memories:

                                                  http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...0&pagenumber=3

                                                  Brad
                                                  This thread you quote totally incrimates you. You admit this person sells stolen property, but you used it anyway!

                                                  What does that make you?

                                                  BTW, you never should have gotten on my bad side.

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                                                  • calm
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                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Lensman


                                                    This thread you quote totally incrimates you. You admit this person sells stolen property, but you used it anyway!

                                                    What does that make you?

                                                    BTW, you never should have gotten on my bad side.
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                                                    • lEricPl
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                                                      #76
                                                      This is lame.

                                                      The deal was with pensfan not Brad.

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                                                      • liquidmoe
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                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                                        Duane was not only approached, he was verbally fucking abused about it.

                                                        you think that matters to him?
                                                        That?s what I thought. I guess if Brad bought it unknowingly this could perhaps be resolved somehow amicably as he wasn't directly trying to rip someone off, but if he had prior knowledge then that?s obviously more serious and incriminating.

                                                        Take Luck!

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                                                        • Mr Pheer
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                                                          #78
                                                          this board sometimes reminds me of my fucking sister-in-law's kids

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                                                          • liquidmoe
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                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by lEricPl
                                                            This is lame.

                                                            The deal was with pensfan not Brad.
                                                            Tell that to a cop when you buy stolen merchandise.

                                                            Take Luck!

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                                                            • Tibetan Pimp
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                                                              #80
                                                              Brad, did you not know Amp designed these? His work kinda stands out and, by your own admission, you knew you were buying from a known thief (hence the post).

                                                              Why would you ask that if you didn't know the designs were stolen? It's not a get out of jail free card.

                                                              How did you expect this to not to bite you in the ass?

                                                              The "I didn't know.. " tact does not apply. You knew by that post that you were buying into a problem.

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                                                                • SinEmpire
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                                                  so some half-baked lies from Duane himself is your rebuttal?
                                                                  No man read MY post in there and my subsequent posts on the following two pages. I don't know what you're smoking tonight but we talked about this stuff way back then when I was trying to search out all the artists after I found out the stuff I bought was from a con-artist who didn't pay all of his designers.

                                                                  Lensman, you think I chose to do business with a known thief? Christ man, I bought that stuff in August of 2002 and didn't find out until months later that the guy was a con and that I got scammed. After which, I did the right thing and sought out designers here on GFY.

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                                                                  • Amputate Your Head
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                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by liquidmoe
                                                                    That?s what I thought. I guess if Brad bought it unknowingly this could perhaps be resolved somehow amicably as he wasn't directly trying to rip someone off, but if he had prior knowledge then that?s obviously more serious and incriminating.
                                                                    I'm pretty sure I've mentioned it in the past to Brad.... but he never made use of the shit he bought, and never put it online, so I never said anything.
                                                                    SIG TOO BIG

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                                                                    • lEricPl
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                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by liquidmoe
                                                                      Tell that to a cop when you buy stolen merchandise.
                                                                      So Brad knew he was buying stolen designs?

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                                                                      • Veterans Day
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                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by Lensman


                                                                        This thread you quote totally incrimates you. You admit this person sells stolen property, but you used it anyway!

                                                                        What does that make you?

                                                                        BTW, you never should have gotten on my bad side.
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                                                                          #86
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                                                                          • Honeyslut
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                                                                            #87
                                                                            [QUOTE]Originally posted by MrPheer
                                                                            this board sometimes reminds me of my fucking sister-in-law's kids [/Q


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                                                                            • TheJimmy
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                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by MrPheer
                                                                              this board sometimes reminds me of my fucking sister-in-law's kids
                                                                              fun t'ain't it?

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                                                                              • 4Pics
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                                                                                • Mr.Fiction
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by liquidmoe
                                                                                  Buying stolen merchandise is still a crime, but so its selling it, just wondering why the seller isn't being hounded, unless of course he is also.
                                                                                  As I read it, there is no "crime" here. Nothing was stolen. This is an unpaid bills issue. The question is, who's owes who?
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                                                                                  • TheJimmy
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                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by lEricPl


                                                                                    So Brad knew he was buying stolen designs?


                                                                                    ssssssssssssssssss
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                                                                                    • Amputate Your Head
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                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by SinEmpire


                                                                                      No man read MY post in there and my subsequent posts on the following two pages. I don't know what you're smoking tonight but we talked about this stuff way back then when I was trying to search out all the artists after I found out the stuff I bought was from a con-artist who didn't pay all of his designers.

                                                                                      Lensman, you think I chose to do business with a known thief? Christ man, I bought that stuff in August of 2002 and didn't find out until months later that the guy was a con and that I got scammed. After which, I did the right thing and sought out designers here on GFY.

                                                                                      Brad
                                                                                      you want proof? I'm the only living soul on Earth that has the source files.
                                                                                      SIG TOO BIG

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                                                                                      • Veterans Day
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                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                                                                        you want proof? I'm the only living soul on Earth that has the source files.
                                                                                        yep that'd do it Amp
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                                                                                        • playa
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                                                                                          • liquidmoe
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                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


                                                                                            As I read it, there is no "crime" here. Nothing was stolen. This is an unpaid bills issue. The question is, who's owes who?
                                                                                            Well there is the obvious culprit. The rest of it is murky, I would just say not to use the designs but if Brad did pay money for them, then its a bit different. Just another reason why you have to be careful with whom you do business.

                                                                                            Take Luck!

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                                                                                            • 4Pics
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                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by SinEmpire

                                                                                              Lensman, you think I chose to do business with a known thief? Christ man, I bought that stuff in August of 2002 and didn't find out until months later that the guy was a con and that I got scammed. After which, I did the right thing and sought out designers here on GFY.

                                                                                              Brad
                                                                                              If you did the right thing, what did you pay Amp for the designs?

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                                                                                              • Mr.Fiction
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                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by MrPheer
                                                                                                this board sometimes reminds me of my fucking sister-in-law's kids
                                                                                                I had to read that line twice.
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                                                                                                • Strife
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                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  love the drama
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                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Amp, did you ever ask Brad for payment?

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