Canadian high speed ISP says lower pricing is unfair to consumers

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  • MrPopup
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2002
    • 3783

    #1

    Canadian high speed ISP says lower pricing is unfair to consumers

    http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/09/23/shaw_030923

    "We're in favour of fair and sustainable competition because we believe it is in the best interests of the consumer," Jim Shaw, CEO of Shaw Communications, said.

    "However, if these predatory pricing practices are permitted to continue it could significantly reduce competition in the Internet access market in Western Canada, that is not in the best interests of serving Internet customers," he added.

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    Apparently offering discounted high speed internet services is against the public interest.
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  • blazi
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2003
    • 4321

    #2
    someday the Internet will be free for everyone!

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    • BRISK
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Feb 2003
      • 12240

      #3
      I've read that Canada has the cheapest high speed internet anywhere in the world, so I wouldn't worry too much.
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      • unconnected
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2001
        • 1025

        #4
        29.99/month for full blown 1 m/bit cable internet.

        I pay 59.99 for a 4 m/bit line which is actualy around 3.2 m/bits

        When i first got internet though they weren't even capping it at 4 m/bits, I remember downloading shit at over 900 kb/s and uploading at over 300 kb/s ...
        They start bitching when your transfer goes over 80 GB/month.. but fuck em.. if I don't sign a TOA they can't tell me what and what not to do
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        • Libertine
          sex dwarf
          • May 2002
          • 17860

          #5
          Low prices can be bad for consumers in the long run. Two possible scenarios:

          #1: A few big companies with lots of cash drive their competition out of business by underpricing their products. Then, when the competition is gone, they can raise the prices as much as they want.
          #2: A very competitive market can prevent companies from freeing up resources to improve infrastructure and technology, leading to an overall decrease in quality in the long run.
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          • chowda
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2003
            • 9527

            #6
            Originally posted by punkworld
            Low prices can be bad for consumers in the long run. Two possible scenarios:

            #1: A few big companies with lots of cash drive their competition out of business by underpricing their products. Then, when the competition is gone, they can raise the prices as much as they want.
            #2: A very competitive market can prevent companies from freeing up resources to improve infrastructure and technology, leading to an overall decrease in quality in the long run.
            i challenge that idea.
            #1, follow this idea, dialup providers should be a monopoly now.

            #2 at the point where it is a competitive market, it is when companies DO improve their technology. They differentiate from their competitors by offering a different product (product placement) Quality will be better in the long run as many more firms enter the market. BUT for the initial company investing into R&D, they will be the ones with the most to lose... BUT they would also have a first mover competitive advantage.
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            • SENSEX
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2003
              • 1159

              #7
              Sympatico has a sweet deal, its un-advertised, first 5 months are $25.95.

              IMO, their all crooks anyways

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              • Sly_RJ
                Live Hard - Die Hard
                • Feb 2002
                • 17042

                #8
                Originally posted by chowda


                i challenge that idea.
                #1, follow this idea, dialup providers should be a monopoly now.
                The product or service has to be equal. Dial-up is nothing compared to cable.
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                • 4Pics
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 7952

                  #9
                  Originally posted by punkworld
                  Low prices can be bad for consumers in the long run. Two possible scenarios:

                  #1: A few big companies with lots of cash drive their competition out of business by underpricing their products. Then, when the competition is gone, they can raise the prices as much as they want.
                  #2: A very competitive market can prevent companies from freeing up resources to improve infrastructure and technology, leading to an overall decrease in quality in the long run.
                  So basically you are talking about WalMart?

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                  • Snake Doctor
                    I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                    • Mar 2001
                    • 13449

                    #10
                    If they went under because of a price war it would save Brad alot of money
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                    • chowda
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 9527

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                      The product or service has to be equal. Dial-up is nothing compared to cable.
                      he was being general

                      u cant compare them, but cable should suffer from the same thing that dialup faced: saturation, price war, open market.

                      there are still dialup companies out there that make money.
                      Someone finds you...
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                      PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

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                      • FlyingIguana
                        aspiring banker
                        • Mar 2002
                        • 10870

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MrPopup
                        http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/09/23/shaw_030923

                        "We're in favour of fair and sustainable competition because we believe it is in the best interests of the consumer," Jim Shaw, CEO of Shaw Communications, said.

                        "However, if these predatory pricing practices are permitted to continue it could significantly reduce competition in the Internet access market in Western Canada, that is not in the best interests of serving Internet customers," he added.

                        *************

                        Apparently offering discounted high speed internet services is against the public interest.
                        if its done to get rid of competition then yes it is...

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