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Ahem, did you read my earlier post my dear? I already said rape victims and exceptional situations are not the same.Originally posted by MetaMan
so what happens if you take the precautions yet they still fail, or lets say a rape victim becomes pregnant. is it supposed to be wrong for that person to have an abortion? u cant just say only those kinds of people can or the majority of women who want an abortion may lie and say they were raped, u cant have it both ways. abortion should always be allowed in our society under certain situtations, and someone shouldnt die based on a choice they made when they are 18 years old. god does not look down with hate and anger at these kind of people. he looks to them with forgiveness.
Here, in case you missed it.
I think abortion is one of those issues that's dependant on the situation. If some dumb bitch gets herself knocked up because she wasn't smart enough to wrap it, in MY perfect world she'd be forced to HAVE the baby, then give it up to a family that couldn't have children of their own and really wanted one. I disagree with abortion as a form of birth control, but I can't TOTALLY diasagree with abortion. What about aborting an etopic pregnancy (a tubal pregnancy). It's a pregnancy that WILL KILL both mother AND CHILD WITHOUT FAIL. Is she a murderer if she has an abortion in that case? What about a young girl (12-13 years old) who gets pregnant from brutal rape? Is she supposed to go through pregnancy and birth to a child who is the product of brutality? Or incest (where the child has good potential for retardation or other physical problems?). Honestly, I think it's very situational. Imagine being a woman in the positions I've mentioned here (or a child, for that matter) and then tell me that you would never have an abortion.Comment
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perfect i totally agree, my main point is people dont undertsand, to many people sit on a post, there has to be abortion allowed in this world.Originally posted by LadyMischief
Ahem, did you read my earlier post my dear? I already said rape victims and exceptional situations are not the same.
Here, in case you missed it.
I think abortion is one of those issues that's dependant on the situation. If some dumb bitch gets herself knocked up because she wasn't smart enough to wrap it, in MY perfect world she'd be forced to HAVE the baby, then give it up to a family that couldn't have children of their own and really wanted one. I disagree with abortion as a form of birth control, but I can't TOTALLY diasagree with abortion. What about aborting an etopic pregnancy (a tubal pregnancy). It's a pregnancy that WILL KILL both mother AND CHILD WITHOUT FAIL. Is she a murderer if she has an abortion in that case? What about a young girl (12-13 years old) who gets pregnant from brutal rape? Is she supposed to go through pregnancy and birth to a child who is the product of brutality? Or incest (where the child has good potential for retardation or other physical problems?). Honestly, I think it's very situational. Imagine being a woman in the positions I've mentioned here (or a child, for that matter) and then tell me that you would never have an abortion.Comment
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I agree with you Lady M, and kids do make the wrong choices..as we did when we were young (i can speak for myself here). I drill my children all the time about condoms.. but they are not full proof ..not even near it. Why is the Male that gets the female preggos ever held responsible in these discussions.. no one even mentions the fact the male should be taking precautions too... how many guys spread their mighty seed around like it was nothing?..way too many. I believe a woman has the right to do with her body as she wishes.. and i dont think abortion should be used as a form of birthcontrol.....but laughing at a child dying (hell dark jedi, she could have been your next content girl) is just sadOriginally posted by LadyMischief
Part of the problem is the fact that kids these days don't THINK before they do. If more girls had to deal with reality checks, maybe the whole scenario COULD be prevented more often. Education is important, but the information is available to anyone who seeks it. Even some who don't. Just because a girl doesn't use a rubber doesn't mean she's uneducated. I know several girls who's had useless abortions and were FULLY aware of the implications of unprotected sex. They just let their pussies do the thinking and didn't think later. This is the same reason why more and more teenagers today are getting AIDS. Not because they DON'T know, but because they DON'T CARE! They aren't forced to deal with the consequences of their actions, because there ARE so many quick fixes available. It's a TOUGH call. But if by 18 they don't know a rubber is a rule, they honestly can't make excuses anymore. What happened to this girl is EXTREMELY unfortunate, I don't think she DESERVED to die, but maybe it will act as an eye-opener to OTHER girls to use their fucking heads for once.
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If she had chosen to keep the baby, this wouldn't have happened.Originally posted by lock
Some of the people that are anti abortion should perhaps rethink before they post and see that this is a double loss of life 2 babies dying. There is no punch line here nothing to laugh over. Some of the comments posted here make you appear heartless therefore do nothing for your anti abortion aguements.
So here's a hint: don't kill babies.
And to all the pro-choice tards: if you are immature enough to accept the consequences - don't have sex.
Considering that condoms break and the girl doesnt want to take pills, how hard could it be to pull out ? (not hard, I tried.) So if you are pro-choice, you might as well choose fucking right - choose to be a responsible person.Comment
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you dont have much sex do you? just because you pull out dont mean shit, some sperm is out before you "blow" your load.Originally posted by DarkJedi
If she had chosen to keep the baby, this wouldn't have happened.
So here's a hint: don't kill babies.
And to all the pro-choice tards: if you are immature enough to accept the consequences - don't have sex.
Considering that condoms break and the girl doesnt want to take pills, how hard could it be to pull out ? (not hard, I tried.) So if you are pro-choice, you might as well choose fucking right - choose to be a responsible person.Comment
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What about the guys who go around spreading their seed wily nilly? If more men learned how to out on a condom, this wouldn't even be an issue. I don't think the girl got pregnant all by herself.....Originally posted by har har
i dont care what a book tells me about it, its murder plain and simple and the sluts that commit the murder should be strilized or put down like ferrel dogs
as for my pet whore marina, the best advice i can give you is to go a suck a big fat dick, shut your mouth, your opinion means shit, your a worthless slut
Are you the same kind of idiot who considers killing abortion doctors 'pro-life'?
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Choice and control over one's own body is important. I just wish there was more accountability to those who ARE stupid. Condoms are NOT 100% absolutely. Accidents happen.. but those are more in the realm of exceptional circumstances than just stupidity. It's sheer stupidity that makes me angry more than anything.. NEEDLESS killing of innocent lives.Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday
I agree with you Lady M, and kids do make the wrong choices..as we did when we were young (i can speak for myself here). I drill my children all the time about condoms.. but they are not full proof ..not even near it. Why is the Male that gets the female preggos ever held responsible in these discussions.. no one even mentions the fact the male should be taking precautions too... how many guys spread their mighty seed around like it was nothing?..way too many. I believe a woman has the right to do with her body as she wishes.. and i dont think abortion should be used as a form of birthcontrol.....but laughing at a child dying (hell dark jedi, she could have been your next content girl) is just sad
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Originally posted by MetaMan
some sperm is out before you "blow" your load.
not if your dick isn't broken and leaking out
Edit: you are probably talking about prostate secretions which don't contain semen.Last edited by DarkJedi; 09-20-2003, 09:41 AM.Comment
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The girl can say NO - and there would be no sex.Originally posted by Kassidy
What about the guys who go around spreading their seed wily nilly? If more men learned how to out on a condom, this wouldn't even be an issue. I don't think the girl got pregnant all by herself.....
But ofcourse it's much easier to choose to not be responsible.Comment
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Sure condoms break... but the spermicide can still be effective, especially when combined with the pill or other forms of contraception. The pill and other similiar methods, I believe are like 98-99% effective when taken properly. A condom isn't a shield of armor and the pill or other like preventions, don't stop STDs... BUT using a combination of both of these, the chances of becoming pregnant are VERY slim. Like I said before, it's either laziness, ignorance or plain carelessness. There's NO excuse for being irresponsible, in this era.Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
uh.. condoms break... pills dont work at 100%...
oh btw, when the condom breaks, is the second day pill considered killing the baby... since the egg was fertilized...?Comment
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Slim but NOT 100% effectiveOriginally posted by Furious_Female
Sure condoms break... but the spermicide can still be effective, especially when combined with the pill or other forms of contraception. The pill and other similiar methods, I believe are like 98-99% effective when taken properly. A condom isn't a shield of armor and the pill or other like preventions, don't stop STDs... BUT using a combination of both of these, the chances of becoming pregnant are VERY slim. Like I said before, it's either laziness, ignorance or plain carelessness. There's NO excuse for being irresponsible, in this era.Comment
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tries to kill the baby and in turn kills herself? I don't think thats a bad or good thing but its kind of what she gets. Killing any person is wrong no matter how old they are.
She couldn't raise a baby?
then be responsible when you have sex, use birth control, condoms, ect..
The only time I could really understand someone murdering your child is if you were raped. I think that would be hell going through something like that.
I have 2 kids, none of which were planned. My wife died during birth of our secound child. I could have gave it up (im make around $300 a fucking month) but I am raising my two kids like a fucking man. U don't see me feeding them rat posion.
People are a bunch of pussies now a days, take responsoibility for your own fucking actions. Don't expect some magic pill to do it for you.Comment
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Nothing in life is 100% guaranteed, but the chances of contraception not working, when used properly is RARE.Originally posted by Strife
Slim but NOT 100% effective
Not having sex works 100% if you can't own up to the consequences without disregarding a life inside of you as a lump of cells.Comment
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Sad!I'M FREEEEE!!!!Comment
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Afuckingmen!! Notice how no one really answered this? Everyone on the old prolife bandwagon. It's no one's gawd damned business why people have abortions. It's nice to know that we have the option instead of having some back alley Dr. Frankinhook jacking you with a coat hanger or hoover like back in the day.Originally posted by MetaMan
i am 100% not against abortion, what about rape victims and molestation victims? u r telling me it would be wrong for these kind of people to get rid of a kid?
Not saying that abortion should be used as a form of birth control but shit happens. And this certainly is not funny by any means.AIM sherierocks
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Originally posted by EZRhino
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Sheesh.... idiot ain't a word that even comes close. Sewage maybe, - but that can be recycled.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Dude, how the fuck is that funny?
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it was a troll you doltOriginally posted by JDog
Dude, how the fuck is that funny?
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Originally posted by DarkJedi
Judging from her posts, she's about 8 I think the jedi gave it's age away here. Mabye it's +2 yrs 
Fucking retardsDon't look here for the joke. It's in your pants.
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You're kidding, right? There's plenty of sperm in precum, its *very* possible to get pregnant from it. Just goes to show how uninformed you really are, and why pulling out doesn't work. Nothing, aside from a vasectomy or abstinence is 100% effective - there will always be mistakes.Originally posted by DarkJedi
not if your dick isn't broken and leaking out
Edit: you are probably talking about prostate secretions which don't contain semen.
By the way - I'd like to see what you would do in the same situation. Everyone loves to preach until it happens to them. By the way, how old are you?Comment
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sherie:
It's no one's gawd damned business why people have abortions. It's nice to know that we have the option instead of having some back alley Dr. Frankinhook jacking you with a coat hanger or hoover like back in the day. Totally agree!
Every case is different and needs proper advice/support/medical attention. It is not a matter some government can legislate on while they sit on their asses and listen to extemist lobby groups - on both sides - and have "religion" pumped into their ears. (Again, religon is another subject no govt has rights to mess in - this is a matter for each individual).XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Originally posted by Plan9
By the way, how old are you?
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7 weeks?
do you have any idea what your 'baby' is at 7 weeks?
it's a bundle of tissue less than half an inch long;
no heatbreat, no brain.
it's nothing. unless you believe in all this 'soul' nonsense,
in which case you'll never care about rational answers.
eating a hamburger is a more severe moral compromise than
aborting a pregnancy at 7 weeks; at least the cow had a brain.
a fly or a spider or a cockroach is a more complex, intelligent
form of life vs a 7 week embryo . . and im sure you don't mind
hesistate to squash those.
. . and don't even start with the 'potential for life' crap,
or else you guys are committing genocide each time to jack off.Comment
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Not sure if anyone inquired about IQ but thanks just the same!Originally posted by DarkJedi
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And when does brain activity start -- idiot?Originally posted by CamChicks
7 weeks?
do you have any idea what your 'baby' is at 7 weeks?
it's a bundle of tissue less than half an inch long;
no heatbreat, no brain.
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Gotta love the hostility that some people bring to arguments. Instead of asking a valid question, creating a VALID discussion you call them an idiot. What point does that prove, other than showing the weakness of your arguements in that you have to resort to namecalling?Originally posted by broke
And when does brain activity start -- idiot?
This isn't grade school.Comment
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Originally posted by sherie
Not sure if anyone inquired about IQ but thanks just the same!
OMG, I am completely baffled by your witty comment !!
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Originally posted by Plan9
Gotta love the hostility that some people bring to arguments. Instead of asking a valid question, creating a VALID discussion you call them an idiot. What point does that prove, other than showing the weakness of your arguements in that you have to resort to namecalling?
This isn't grade school.
You are also an idiot.Comment
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the brain does not start to function until the 2nd trimester;Originally posted by broke
And when does brain activity start -- idiot?
9-12 weeks. Obviously, this is very limited function too.
It's not 'thinking' yet.Comment
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An ad hominem argument, or argumentum ad hominem (Latin, literally "argument against the man [or person]"), is a fallacy that involves replying to an argument or assertion by attempting to discredit the person offering the argument or assertion. Ad hominem is one of the best-known of the logical fallacies usually enumerated in introductory logic and critical thinking textbooks. Both the fallacy itself, and accusations of having committed it, are often brandished in actual discourse. As technique of rhetoric, despite its usual lack of subtlety, it is powerful and much-used and -abused. Anyone involved in political discourse, and public discourse generally, would do well to become acquainted with it.Originally posted by broke
You are also an idiot.Comment
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Wrong.Originally posted by CamChicks
the brain does not start to function until the 2nd trimester;
9-12 weeks. Obviously, this is very limited function too.
It's not 'thinking' yet.Comment
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Do you have anything to add on the subject or are you just here to nitpick responses?Originally posted by Plan9
An ad hominem argument, or argumentum ad hominem [blah, blah, blah...]
Your tendency to do the later is what earns you the title 'idiot'.
Deal with it.Comment
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apparently for some,Originally posted by broke
Wrong.
brain activity may be delayed until decades after birth.Comment
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Plan9:
You think they actually went to grade school or the command of English is limited to "owned", "cool", and "wow"??Gotta love the hostility that some people bring to arguments. Instead of asking a valid question, creating a VALID discussion you call them an idiot. What point does that prove, other than showing the weakness of your arguements in that you have to resort to namecalling?
This isn't grade school.
I dunno ... if that lack of some intelligence (we are all entitled to our opinions), was in our company - we would not have a company, - they could not perform.
Now I know why affliates are lucky if they manage 5 - 10 signs a day - they are not performing - the level is too low!
This is sad all round!
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Oh shit a halfwit conspiracy theorist didn't like something I said.Originally posted by Webby
Plan9:
You think they actually went to grade school or the command of English is limited to "owned", "cool", and "wow"??
I dunno ... if that lack of some intelligence (we are all entitled to our opinions), was in our company - we would not have a company, - they could not perform.
Now I know why affliates are lucky if they manage 5 - 10 signs a day - they are not performing - the level is too low!
This is sad all round!
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broke:
I actually dismissed what you thought you said - basically you said nothing.Oh shit a halfwit conspiracy theorist didn't like something I said.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Your last 2 responses:Originally posted by broke
Do you have anything to add on the subject or are you just here to nitpick responses?
Your tendency to do the later is what earns you the title 'idiot'.
Deal with it.
"Wrong."
"You are also an idiot."
Now re-read what you just said, sit in the corner, and think about it long and hard. Do you understand how incredibly stupid you look?
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I understand that you may be having difficulty with what I said...Originally posted by Webby
broke:
I actually dismissed what you thought you said - basically you said nothing.
but the point was that brain activity does not start at 9 weeks.
Brain waves start as early as forty days and it's asinine to make the assumption what there are never any brain waves at 63 days and use it as a pro-abortion platform.Comment
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broke:
Yes.. I was having difficulty with these "one liners" about "idiots".I understand that you may be having difficulty with what I said...
but the point was that brain activity does not start at 9 weeks.
Brain waves start as early as forty days and it's asinine to make the assumption what there are never any brain waves at 63 weeks and use it as a pro-abortion platform.
And your point, and follow-on about the rest??XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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The rest of what?Originally posted by Webby
broke:
And your point, and follow-on about the rest??
Abortion (outside of rape) is a cop out that gives sluts, who apparently have no control of their body in the first place, the right to kill a man's child.
End of story.Comment
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broke:
K! I assume there is no further point.I understand that you may be having difficulty with what I said...
but the point was that brain activity does not start at 9 weeks.
Brain waves start as early as forty days and it's asinine to make the assumption what there are never any brain waves at 63 weeks and use it as a pro-abortion platform.
Tho I would hope there was some "brain waves at 63 weeks", but it is clear that this is always not the case.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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broke:
Ah... thank you for explaining. That was enlightening.The rest of what?
Abortion (outside of rape) is a cop out that gives sluts, who apparently have no control of their body in the first place, the right to kill a man's child.
End of story.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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You've move on to corrected typos...Originally posted by Webby
broke:
K! I assume there is no further point.
Tho I would hope there was some "brain waves at 63 weeks", but it is clear that this is always not the case.
CONGRATS!
Funny -- no dispute.Originally posted by Webby
Ah... thank you for explaining. That was enlightening.Comment
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where are you getting your information from? pro-life websites?Originally posted by broke
Brain waves start as early as forty days and it's asinine to make the assumption what there are never any brain waves at 63 days and use it as a pro-abortion platform.
ignoring the debate about which week 'brainwaves' begin,
unless you are trying to argue that a 7 week old embryo is
more intelligent than a fully developed cow or pig or fish
then what's your point?
anything dumber than a cow is just meat.Comment
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broke:
Just two other questions - I don't understand something.Abortion (outside of rape) is a cop out that gives sluts, who apparently have no control of their body in the first place, the right to kill a man's child.
A woman who has an abortion is a slut??
Also, women who have abortions "have no control over their bodies"?
I never knew this till I visited GFY today.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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broke:
Tho I would hope there was some "brain waves at 63 weeks", but it is clear that this is always not the case.
You've move on to corrected typos...
CONGRATS!
Typo?? No, I never noticed any typo there - I firmly believe now that in some there is no sign of brain waves at 63 weeks, - and upwards.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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