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  • KRL
    Entrepreneur
    • Oct 2002
    • 31429

    #1

    WOW! > Jet Blue Gave 5 Million Passenger Records To The Feds

    JetBlue Handed Over Passenger Info & Itineraries

    JetBlue Airways has infuriated many customers by releasing 5 million passenger records to a Defense Department contractor, which used the information to see if it could identify "high risk" customers.

    The contractor, Torch Concepts of Huntsville, Ala. produced a study titled: "Homeland Security: Airline Passenger Risk Assessment," using information from JetBlue and then combining it with social security numbers, home ownership, economic status, criminal history and occupations, obtained through various data sources. The report sought to determine which passengers were deemed "high risk" and which ones were not.

    The Forest Hills-based company apologized Friday for providing the names, address and phone numbers of passengers from 2000 to mid-2002 at the request of the Department of Defense, in violation of the airline's privacy policy.

    Nearly 5 million names were provided for military base security, said Gareth Edmondson-Jones, a spokesman for JetBlue. He did not elaborate.

    "This was a mistake on our part," JetBlue chief executive David Neeleman said in an apologetic e-mail sent to angry customers. But privacy experts say the company should taken greater care with customer information.

    JetBlue "really should have known better," Richard M. Smith, an Internet security and privacy consultant based in Cambridge, Mass., told the Associated Press. Smith said the study's content raises serious questions about whether it was really aimed at military base security.

    JetBlue said it was not aware that Torch was using its information for this purpose. Furthermore, JetBlue says that Torch has assured it that the data has been destroyed and that none of the information was passed along to the Department of Defense or any other government agency.

    The lawyer representing Torch Concepts, Rich Marsden did not respond to repeated phone calls.

    JetBlue, a low-cost airline, has created a loyal following during a period when other airlines have suffered.

    In his email, Neelelmaninsisted that the data was not part of the so-called Computer Assisted Passenger Prescreening System, or CAPPS II, which is being formulated by the government to screen out likely terrorists on passenger planes.

    Yet the proposed CAPPS II looks much like Torch's study, using passenger names and then databases to check their financial and criminal pasts. Peggy Estes, a spokeswoman for Atlanta-based Delta Airlines, said that it had "agreed to help the TSA test CAPPS II," though the TSA hasn't yet taken Delta up on its offer.

    This has raised concerns among privacy advocates.

    "These passengers have a right to be concerned," said Michael Boyd, an airline consultant with the Boyd Group, in Evergreen, Colo. CAPPS II is the brainchild of the Transportation Security Administration.

    News of the incident was greeted mixed reaction from passengers at Kennedy Airport Friday.

    Ellen Young, a Manhattan resident on her way to Oakland, said, "I'm all for classifying passengers," adding that she wouldn't want to be on the same plane with people who make frequent trips to Afganistan. Meanwhile, Ed Williams said that his "credit information is something beyond private."
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  • Gemini
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2001
    • 7183

    #2
    KRL. you are more from our generation, in all honesty having lived thru the things we have shared, do you think the Government is NOT gleaning all of this information to different areas for its own use? I have to really wonder at times given their penchance to use whatever they could, as they could against us when they needed it.


    [Going to scratch the head a few times and wonder a lil more]
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    • KRL
      Entrepreneur
      • Oct 2002
      • 31429

      #3
      Originally posted by Gemini
      KRL. you are more from our generation, in all honesty having lived thru the things we have shared, do you think the Government is NOT gleaning all of this information to different areas for its own use? I have to really wonder at times given their penchance to use whatever they could, as they could against us when they needed it.


      [Going to scratch the head a few times and wonder a lil more]
      Yes. I think its totally out of control and only going to get more intrusive in the coming years. The government is so paranoid and afraid they want all the information they can on everyone.

      I was reading a report recently that the NSA (National Security Agency) which runs all the evesdropping, spy sats, cell intercepts, etc. is taking in so much intel everyday its literally impossible for them to analyse 99.99% of it in a timely manner and they are relying on computers to parse the intel for them.

      Every communication going into and out of the US is now being monitored and archived for analysis. Imagine that daily volume load.
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      • Theo
        HAL 9000
        • May 2001
        • 34515

        #4
        imagine the NSA computers trying to analyse the slang used between many black or mexican people

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        • KRL
          Entrepreneur
          • Oct 2002
          • 31429

          #5
          Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
          imagine the NSA computers trying to analyse the slang used between many black or mexican people
          LOL, yeh and imagine trying to understand what the fuck the Arabs and Asians are mumbling.

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          • pudcat
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            • Mar 2003
            • 1169

            #6
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            • Gemini
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2001
              • 7183

              #7
              Too sad. And I don't even go along with all the theorists. But I have worked on computers since their onset and know that if they want it, they WILL get whatever info. Somehow someway. Sheesh, the two of us behave and if you call sitting on the back porch with a beer now and again a crime... Lord only knows what the Brother might be knowing. lol Darn, maybe they should know we wore CLOTH diapers!!! lmbo

              Columbus recently got new cop choppers, complete with the cams that can read cash serial numbers and see thru things. Umm, scuse me... I'm showerin' here!!

              Darn things cost almost as much as the helicopters and the city is broke. ;-)
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              • TheJimmy
                ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
                • Jan 2001
                • 10747

                #8
                Originally posted by KRL


                Yes. I think its totally out of control and only going to get more intrusive in the coming years. The government is so paranoid and afraid they want all the information they can on everyone.

                I was reading a report recently that the NSA (National Security Agency) which runs all the evesdropping, spy sats, cell intercepts, etc. is taking in so much intel everyday its literally impossible for them to analyse 99.99% of it in a timely manner and they are relying on computers to parse the intel for them.

                Every communication going into and out of the US is now being monitored and archived for analysis. Imagine that daily volume load.



                remember when Carinvore came out?

                didnt' the boys at 2600 and a few other clubs like the dead cow dudes, etc plan on launching some bots to put out massive packets of bullshit searches, text, etc to thwart that system a tad?


                you think it ever happened or just bs?
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                • TheJimmy
                  ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 10747

                  #9
                  Originally posted by pudcat
                  gotta love freedom...

                  Bush and Ashman are pissing on the graves of every dead US vet imo....

                  they fought and died for the freedoms that we do NOT have today...


                  very sad...
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                  • theking
                    Nice Kitty
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 21053

                    #10
                    Private enterprise has been collecting information on citizens for years and years...why get upset when the government does the very same thing...in a effort to stop terrorists and or criminals?
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