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I'd be broke if that were the case!Originally posted by Ic3m4nZ
50 anxiety attacks
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Originally posted by TurboAngel
You should send them a letter asing them to "forgive" you of the bill. You have to use the word forgive, they get so much $$ to hahahahaha off.
I know this because my Stepdad is the director of the VA hospital.
I'm not right all the time but this is one of them.
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And people say dialers are a rip off.Originally posted by zzgundamnzz
Thats highway robbery
Don't pay it. What are they going to do send a collection agency?
Well highonacid, as a self employed person you NEED to get health insurance. Sure it costs a fuck load but it's worth it. I'm paying about $350 a month for mine.Comment
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By the sounds of it you can afford to pay it so its not so bad. But if you were broke then it would be pretty fucked up.
Not saying its ok coz you can afford to pay ( if you can ) just mean its not so bad for you.......Comment
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Um unless you don't pay taxes, you are paying for it one way or another. I'm sorry but socialized health care is shitty. Have fun waiting in line.Originally posted by doober
that sucks ass hard, here in canada it would have cost you 0$
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That fucking sucks Acid...
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The medical field sucks. My Dad is a doctor and although he makes a lot of money, it isn't worth the work he has to put into it. Way too much stress.Originally posted by AdultNex
Why do you think so many people are going to Pre-Med?
The medical field pays well... Real well.
Personally I prefer working in the field I currently do, and I'm doing just as good as your average doctor salary wise without going through the shitload of schooling and training.Comment
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damn I thought mine was bad but they raped you...
When I had my car wreck.. I went to the emergency room.. sat there for two hours before they even checked me out (by law they are supposed to check you out within 15 mins) They then put men in a neck brace and I sat there another 1 hour in the waiting room before they let me go in the back. I then sat another hour, and nurse saw me then had me go get some X-rays, after another hour I saw the doctor for lass than 5 mins. I then sat there for another 45 mins or an hour waiting to be released..
fucking shit took about 6 hours to get a $550 dollar bill. Good thing the insurance company is covering it..In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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It only costs me $15 when i visit a doctor or ride the ambulance to the emergency. It's pretty ok. But you have to use it sometimes so your paid 50% income tax money makes it up.
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I have a question about insurance, what are good private
companies that have health insurance, and not managed care, it
seems that EVERYONE has managed care. When I used to have free health insurance cov beause I worked
full time, my employers would always either offer me the option of Blue Cross HMO or PPO. Is there any other medical insurance that is better, and if so through what company?
And what do you think is generally better, hmo or ppo?Last edited by phogirl69; 05-03-2004, 04:28 PM.Comment
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PPO, don't give it a second thought. If you want to call me in the office tomorrow, I'll give you a ton of reasons why. That's what I have, btw.Originally posted by phogirl69
I have a question about insurance, what are good private
companies that have health insurance, and not managed care, it
seems that EVERYONE has managed care. When I used to have free health insurance cov beause I worked
full time, my employers would always either offer me the option of Blue Cross HMO or PPO. Is there any other medical insurance that is better, and if so through what company?
And what do you think is generally better, hmo or ppo?
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LOL you just ruined your credit.Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
There are two ways around this:
Option 1: Fight the collection agency. They aren't tied to the government, and the reason they harass you so much is because they purchased your debt from the Hospital for something cheap like 10-25 cents on the dollar. Then they make their money by either offering you a settlement plan, or by charging the full amount. The Hospital has been paid regardless. So you can tell them "I don't care if you assumed my debt, the Hospital treated me, not you, so I'm not paying anything". Or you can really have fun with them and tell them you already paid everything in the mail. When they call back asking for the money cause they didn't recieve it, act very mad about it, don't let them intimidate you. Fuck up your credit my ass, no one fights with a pissed off consumer. There are actually legal ways around it, but I forget what they were, because this option is actually fun.
Option 2: Move to Canada and never pay for a hospital bill again, because it's covered in your taxes or something. Canadians are far superior to the USA when it comes to the important stuff.
First.
They could care less if they say you paid the hospital. They could care less about ANYTHING you say UNLESS it has to do with the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
If you send them a letter in writing saying you want proof that you owe the money, they CANNOT CONTACT YOU until they have sent the proof. Half the time they cannot prove the debt actually belongs to you. Them sending you a bill is NOT proof. Your signature is proof, a court judgement is proof.
They cannot report this to your credit (unless they already have) once you have sent them that letter in writing (be sure to get registered mail or signature proof that they got it) and until they send you proof. If they attempt to collect on the debt before sending proof they have violated the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.
One company was trying to get $800 from me. They called, lied, etc. But in the end I just stopped hearing from them and its not on my credit, because I knew what I was doing.Comment
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Wow, that's some pretty hefty fees. I had throat surgery at a public hospital, and I ended up being about $AUD500 ($US375) out of pocket. If I had opted to go fully private (I have no health insurance) it would have cost around $AUD1500 ($USD1125). This covers the surgery plus an overnight stay in hospital.
Sounds like the USA hospital system is completely fucked up.Comment
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I agree with the medical insurance after this debacle.Originally posted by candidpublishinginc
And people say dialers are a rip off.
Well highonacid, as a self employed person you NEED to get health insurance. Sure it costs a fuck load but it's worth it. I'm paying about $350 a month for mine.
I can afford to pay it, that's not the issue. To me the issue is that I sought help at my local "emergency room" and took up roughly 45 minutes of staff time. The rest of the time I just sat there waiting for them to call me in. Once I got in, they gave me a robe (probably $1 to clean at most) and I laid there for another 2 hours. So basically for a robe, a bed, Xanax, 40 minutes of nurse attention, and 5 minutes of a Doctor's I'm paying $1600!
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can u say robbery ? that's just fucking too much manComment
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Glad you can pay but take TurboAngel advice.Originally posted by HighOnAcid
I agree with the medical insurance after this debacle.
I can afford to pay it, that's not the issue. To me the issue is that I sought help at my local "emergency room" and took up roughly 45 minutes of staff time. The rest of the time I just sat there waiting for them to call me in. Once I got in, they gave me a robe (probably $1 to clean at most) and I laid there for another 2 hours. So basically for a robe, a bed, Xanax, 40 minutes of nurse attention, and 5 minutes of a Doctor's I'm paying $1600!
I once had really shitty insurance and went to the emergency room over what was deemed two days later as a 'zit'. The bill was 980.00 and my insurance would reimburse me half.
Called the hospital finance department and asked why three doctors thought it was a bug bite that two days later for 45.00 dollars my doctor lanced it and explained how my insurance work.
They asked me to fax the 45.00 bill and sent me an alter bill for 85.00. Not sure how panic attacks are classified but you just may want to call the billing department since they work out some nice deals.
I have personal choice now and I don?t mind paying the monthly premium, since I am cheaper to insure myself than my car.
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I'd ask them to itemize the bill... I would want to see just where all that money freakin went ! damn
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Socialised medicine is the answer.
It's that simple.Comment
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Yes, you have to pay it but do what someone else suggested and call their social services department first. You'd be surprised what they'll do if you just ask.Originally posted by HighOnAcid
I'm going to pay the bill, it's my obligation. It does chap my ass that what it costed for me to spend one night in a hospital I could have spend 5 nights in Hawaii! Fuckers!
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It makes me sad to think about how many people won't take their sick baby to a hospital because they can't afford the bill
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time to move to canada broComment
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Why the hell go to the Hospital over a Panic Attack if you don't have it?
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I can understand. I just paid off a 3000.00 hospital bill for an emergency visit myself. The part that sucked is that they knew i didnt have insurance and didn't treat me properly the first time so i had to go back the same night. Ended up being twice as much as i should have paid because they are greedy. I'll never go back to an ER if i can help it.Comment
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Idiot. Depends of the insurance you have. And if you don't know you are having a panic attack, why not go?Originally posted by Creative
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Why the hell go to the Hospital over a Panic Attack if you don't have it?
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I am so glad I live in Canada. Our healthcare system is far from perfect, but its alot better than nothing!
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Originally posted by doober
that sucks ass hard, here in canada it would have cost you 0$
We have the ability to buy health care as we see fit ... you guys get ass raped via the goverment and 2x the taxes we do, so whether you like it or not, yourself and the rest of the tax payers in your country ARE paying for it ... so you're wrong .. it costs WAY more than $0.Comment
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You also get raped for public education, which is good and all .. but myself for instance, I didn't go to college .. didn't want to, just like a whole lot of people. Let's say I was a Canadian citizen ... I don't go to school, yet I pay out the ass for education via taxes, for other people. That serves no benefit to me ...
I like America, and I like the fact that when it comes to issues such as these, I am given to right to decide how much education, or how much healthcare, I personally need, as opposed to having the government decide for me and take my money to not only pay for myself, but for an entire population.Comment
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What the fuck are you talking about?Originally posted by madthumbs
You also get raped for public education, which is good and all .. but myself for instance, I didn't go to college .. didn't want to, just like a whole lot of people. Let's say I was a Canadian citizen ... I don't go to school, yet I pay out the ass for education via taxes, for other people. That serves no benefit to me ...
The USA has public education. Not very good public education I'll grant you but the sort that costs money, yes.Comment
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I'm not talking about K-12 ... Like Waterloo etc ... College education.Comment
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I think I am having an anxiety attack right now. Hopefully it's nothing lots and lots of alcohol can't fix.Comment
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That's so expensive! What do they want from you? Another attack?!
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I've just about done getting all the bills from my 16 year old's visit to 2 ERs and a 3 day hospital stay due to complications with mono back in January.
It's gonna end up being about an $12,000 kiss..$6K of that is 4 hours in one ER.Comment
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a trip like that to the hospital wouldn't cost $1608 US in Canada.Originally posted by NoCarrier
Canada?
Kick ass healthcare system!?
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I remember that my 2 night stay at a hospital for acute bronchitus set me back a little over $10k. It's fucking outragous.
I guess this a big testimonial for health insurance.
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bastards ....dont pay...... they can suck (is beter in sweden)
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Whats up Robert Brenner!
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um..yes. dipshit.Originally posted by zzgundamnzz
Thats highway robbery
Don't pay it. What are they going to do send a collection agency?
services rendered.
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man .. that really sucks..
I have cover here(australia) probably wouldnt need it unless i was going to a private hospital.. having elective / non emergency surgery.. etc.. but that is $160/month.. think of it this way.. if that's the only medical bill you have in a 10 month period.. you're still ahead of me having to pay 160 monthly.. having said that.. the 160 i pay covers my partner and all our kids.. it is a fucking steep bill though considering they hardly did anything.Comment
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Wow man, that sucks. Hope you make some good bank so you can pay that off.
Could be worse... when I was in jamaica a new friend was talking about her ex- needing to get rabies shots after some kind of bat took a bite out of him. After the series of shots and followups, the total ran around $13,000. I damn near shit myself in the hot tub when I heard it. Even more tragic is that SHE'S STILL PAYING on it even tho she broke up with the guy.
And for all those people who love to bash Canadian hospitals, take it from someone who's been in one in every province except manitoba: If you're seriously sick or hurt or exhibiting symptoms to indicate your life is in imminent danger, you get prioritized. Every 'nuck hospital works a triage system. If you come in with a splinter under your fingernail and a broken toe, you can expect to wait in line after the trauma cases and bleeders. I think part of the reason why the canadian system works better is simply that money CAN'T buy people with scraped shins a higher slot on the roster than someone with an asthema attack.~
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From the amount of the bill it sounds as if you went to emergency...did you?Originally posted by HighOnAcid
For those of you that remember, I had an anxiety attack a couple months back and got a lot of support from some folks here. Well I got the bill today and it's enough to cause another attack!!! $1608.00 fucking dollars!!!
I saw a nurse for 30 minutes, Spoke to a doctor for 5 minutes, and they gave me a 100mg Xanax to calm me down! HOLY SHIT!!! Healthcare in America is getting out of control!!!
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I wonder what services did they do to you. They charge too high!SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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I thought everyone got free medical treatment in the USA?Originally posted by theking
From the amount of the bill it sounds as if you went to emergency...did you?
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tell them that their damage report caused ya other anxiety attack
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