Crackdown on Pornography Is Being Launched by Bush

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  • DarkBob
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    • Jun 2001
    • 2300

    #51
    Originally posted by Honeyslut



    I better wait on selling my Lady Death and other girlie comics online..


    last I checked the comic book market was pretty dead anyway
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    • Kingfish
      Confirmed User
      • Sep 2002
      • 668

      #52
      Originally posted by scoreman
      The Federal prosecutors in these obscenity prosecutions will not take borderline cases like Playboy. Not a chance. They get to choose their cases, choose the forum, have virtually unlimited funds, and have much better rules of discovery than at the state level prosecutions. The ball is completely in their court, which is why losing is so unacceptable. You will not see any close call cases, the feds will seek to put down material that even to folks here on this board would look at and go "ewwww".

      The feds are counting on the chill factor after their wins. Put down a few mangy dogs and the rest of the pack will heel is their thinking.
      I think you are in for some shock and awe. They will IMO target companies that many people here consider being mainstream. I do agree with you that they won?t go after something as tame as playboy, but I wouldn?t be surprised to see them go after anyone that does anything more than one white male on one white female type sex. It is actually better for most of us if the big players get involved. They have the funds to adequately defend themselves and a successful defense at the appellate level will benefit all of us.

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      • SykkBoy2
        Jesus loves bacon
        • Feb 2001
        • 19969

        #53
        Yeah, I guess since this numbnuts president couldn't find Osama Bin laden and doesn't even know if fucking Sadam ussein is dead or alive he's going to go after easier targets.

        So much for the war on terror...

        I hope all you republicans are happy with your choice of president. I know, the democrats would've done the same thing if they couldn't give justificiation for not finding Osama and Sadam.

        Gotta love this great distraction...

        Q: Mr. Bush, where are the weapons of mas destruction?"
        A: "Um, uh, I uh, Extyreme Associates are evil!"
        Q: "But what about the WMD?"
        A: "White women shouldn't fuck ******s"
        Q: "Mr. President, where is Osama Bin Laden?"
        A: "Um, porn is evil!"

        Prepare to learn how to goosestep...

        I still can't believe the most powerful lawyer in America lost an election to a DEAD GUY...

        Maybe a world war that wipes out half the world won't be such a bad thing afterall...

        As much as I am adament about not voting for GW next election, I'm not seeing any dems I'd feel comfortable giving my vote to yet...and I doubt the Libertarians will get their shit together enough to even make a difference.......

        As for the anti-American bullshit, fuck off, I love this country and have some pride in my country, but that doesn't mean I always have to agree with her policies and procedures and I'd still choose her over anything else out there...

        Don't mind me, I'm just a bit cranky that prosecuting pornographers is a higher prioriy for the Bush administration than finding Osama or those ever so hard to find WMD.

        Just rememebr though, if Al Gore/Joe Lieberman had won, Lierbeman's main thing was going after Hollywood movies and violent video games...so, it would be a matter of who was fighting the evil government censors...us or Hollywood...I kinda wish it was Hollywood if I was forced to make a decision.....
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        • On-top
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2001
          • 2283

          #54
          Originally posted by lakeview
          is there a list of what exactly is considered "obscene" under the federal osbcenity laws?
          It's all blurry, but the article does state this...

          "The FBI, U.S. Customs, and Postal Service agents involved in the effort appear particularly interested in bestiality, sexual violence, and unusual uses of human waste."

          So that's not a real bad thing. I'm sick of tub girl.
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          • Greg B
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jul 2001
            • 7014

            #55
            Originally posted by tony404



            That argument works when someone had to walk in to a store or go into a movie theatre to see it and buy it. When now graphic pics show up in your email everyday whether you asked for it or not and I might add these are American companies these pics come from not some european site . Also god forbid you type a mainstream url wrong and then you get hit with graphic pop up after graphic pop up. You want to use that argument ,then our industry has to clean their act up. Will some people make less money yes but they really have to think of the other option not making any.
            Tony404 speaks true!

            Some of the pornmeisters aren't gonna learn til they're sittin' up in some courtroom tryin' to spout the constitution to twelve people and a judge who can't access their computers because they're full of pop-up ads, porn spam and dialers.

            Obscenity is NOT protected by the first amendment. Obscenity is somewhat arbitrary but there's no community in the U.S. that finds the gross shit on some porn sites acceptable except maybe some gang hangout or congressional after party joint.

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            • Greg B
              So Fucking Banned
              • Jul 2001
              • 7014

              #56
              Originally posted by DarkBob

              last I checked the comic book market was pretty dead anyway
              Yeah, SOME comics are dead. Mainstream stuff but that's due to the avalanche of 'hack' poser books that came out in the mid nineties.

              Too many speculators in editorial positions and too many psych drugged editors with rotten marriages overseeing shit.

              Add to that burnt out talent using cheap gimmicks instead of good storytelling and grossly restrictive distribution and it's sorta like what's happening to the U.S. now.

              Sex in comics should be funny, not gross. That's the difference. Humor automatically takes it into the 'art' genre and not the shlock genre.

              Lotta comics guys who use print for their sex comics can't anymore because of Texas' case that screwed a dude that sold an adult an adult comic. Dude lost at the Supreme Court level as the SC upheld the lower court's decision.

              The web is different. All my toons have stories/themes and lotsa laffs.

              I poke fun at politics etc.

              That's what's protected Playboy, Hustler, Penthouse all these years cause they just don't do porn, they've had some groundbreaking articles, expose's, interviews that matched any mainstream news.

              This is going to be interesting to watch because it'll show the state of the legislative branch of our government on a very touchy issue.

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              • Greg B
                So Fucking Banned
                • Jul 2001
                • 7014

                #57
                Originally posted by DarkBob
                One more thing to keep in mind, here is a quote from U.S. District Attorney Mary Beth Buchanan, the prosecutor in the Extreme Associates case. I believe she said this on Good Morning America:

                "It is conceivable that even Playboy could be considered obscene in some parts of the country."

                At first it seems insane that the government would go after something as tame as Playboy, then you remember this:

                Spirit Of Justice
                Don't EVEN get me started on 'Spirit Of Justice'. I drew a three issue mini-series called 'Lady Justice' that was created by one of modern day comics' best writers, Neil Gaiman. That was at a company called Tekno Comics. We had all the top talent there from Leonard Nimoy, Mickey Spillane, Gene Roddenberry, John Jakes, etc.

                It was a rockin' series about gang girls in L.A.

                Considering the amount of violence in the book I guess it could be considered obscene. But then again, any accurate history book or most religous books contain everything they're complaining about regarding obscenity.

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                • Greg B
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 7014

                  #58
                  Here's another reason for the crackdown: Election Year.

                  Problem: Porn sites get an enormous amount of traffic and attention by the public. If pornmeisters got radical/political, if pornstars got radical/political, those viewpoints barraging the populace every second of the day via the web could seriously damage a candidate's chances.

                  They gotta put ya outta business or you'll do something dangerous like take on some civic responsibility.


                  Not THAT would be one big ass change in the way we live.

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                  • skitten
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 217

                    #59
                    Those Right Wing Motherfuckers have to go - Baby Bush was too busy to do any real damage in the past few years - between the "evil do-ers" and waging war in the Middle East (yet somehow a 6'4" swami on kidney dialysis has managed to evade being captured)

                    But trust me - if he is re-elected (not that he was elected in the first place) The Republican party - namely, John Ashcrack is going to do their best to impose small minded, homophobic, racist, Fundamentalist Christian views on this entire country.

                    It's amazing how much relevance these words have -
                    even after three decades...


                    Generals gathered in their masses,
                    just like witches at black masses.
                    Evil minds that plot destruction,
                    sorcerers of death's construction.
                    In the fields the bodies burning,
                    as the war machine keeps turning.
                    Death and hatred to mankind,
                    poisoning their brainwashed minds.
                    Oh lord, yeah

                    Politicians hide themselves away.
                    They only started the war.
                    Why should they go out to fight?
                    They leave that role to the poor, yeah.

                    Time will tell on their power minds,
                    making war just for fun.
                    Treating people just like pawns in chess,
                    wait till their judgement day comes.

                    Now in darkness world stops turning,
                    ashes where the bodies burning.
                    No more War Pigs have the power,
                    Hand of God has struck the hour.
                    Day of judgement, God is calling,
                    on their knees the war pigs crawling.
                    Begging mercy for their sins,
                    Satan, laughing, spreads his wings.
                    Oh lord, yeah
                    --Black Sabbath, War Pigs

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                    • goBigtime
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 7761

                      #60
                      REGARDING COMMUNITY STANDARDS...


                      This is just a thought, but what if the billers (Ibill, CCbill, Epoch etc).. could somehow, through their billing records, prove that a certain percentage of the community actually has slightly lower standards than they would have you believe

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                      • RedBumper
                        Confirmed User
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 1137

                        #61
                        Originally posted by Deepundercover

                        At least 49 makers and distributors of pornography are under investigation, and indictments are expected over the next few months.
                        So there are 49 more people in this biz? Toooo much competition....... back to McDonalds.


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                        • directfiesta
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 30188

                          #62
                          Where are "Furious_Female" and "The Thruth Hurts" ??? they normally rally to defend their great country and blame eveyone except themselves ( even tough "Furious" is a nasty adult spammer"...

                          Where are they??? Fucking in the bushes....????
                          I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                          But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                          • directfiesta
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 30188

                            #63
                            Originally posted by SykkBoy2

                            As for the anti-American bullshit, fuck off, I love this country and have some pride in my country, but that doesn't mean I always have to agree with her policies and procedures and I'd still choose her over anything else out there...

                            You are officially introduced to the " Anti-American Pantheon".

                            Our moto is :

                            " You are either with us, or against us".

                            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                            • Dirty F
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 59204

                              #64
                              Originally posted by directfiesta
                              Where are "Furious_Female" and "The Thruth Hurts" ??? they normally rally to defend their great country and blame eveyone except themselves ( even tough "Furious" is a nasty adult spammer"...

                              Where are they??? Fucking in the bushes....????
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                              • lock
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 5065

                                #65
                                The laws are just gonna be inforced is all. If your building sites which are breaking obscenity laws then you already know if your breaking the law or not they are just saying your gonna get busted.
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                                • directfiesta
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 30188

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by lock
                                  The laws are just gonna be inforced is all. If your building sites which are breaking obscenity laws then you already know if your breaking the law or not they are just saying your gonna get busted.
                                  You should read the first article of the thread....

                                  Or educate us in EXACTLY what is permitted by the law enforcement... Then you can make grandiose blanket declaration.

                                  Have you ever been prosecuted for obscenity???? probably not kiddo.

                                  I have been prosecuted in Canada: The Majesty the Queen VS little me.... Mug shots, handcuffs, finger printing, over 2 years of legal battles, 30,000.00 expenses, threats to get busted again ... and all that for a Ron Jeremy movie which was cleared by Canadian Customs, approved by local provincial classification board, showned in federal and provincial detention house, and so on....

                                  Why??? because I was called to testify for the defense in another cases against the cops....

                                  So don't give me this bullshit "you already know if your breaking the law or not "....

                                  I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                  But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                  • Kingfish
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                                    • Sep 2002
                                    • 668

                                    #67

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                                    • loverboy
                                      When it rains, it pours
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 20609

                                      #68
                                      just great

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                                      • Furious_Female
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                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 8187

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by directfiesta
                                        Where are "Furious_Female" and "The Thruth Hurts" ??? they normally rally to defend their great country and blame eveyone except themselves ( even tough "Furious" is a nasty adult spammer"...

                                        Where are they??? Fucking in the bushes....????
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                                        • Mr Pheer
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Dec 2002
                                          • 22082

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by Furious_Female


                                          I have a wicked sinus infection, my head is killing me... didn't feel like getting into something I don't have energy to finish I'll jump in with my shortly
                                          grill any black bears lately?

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                                          • Furious_Female
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                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 8187

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by MrPheer


                                            grill any black bears lately?
                                            Haha no, but it has come back around since then.

                                            Nice sig!
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                                            • Mr.Fiction
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                                              • Feb 2002
                                              • 9484

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by goBigtime
                                              REGARDING COMMUNITY STANDARDS...
                                              This is just a thought, but what if the billers (Ibill, CCbill, Epoch etc).. could somehow, through their billing records, prove that a certain percentage of the community actually has slightly lower standards than they would have you believe
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