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pimplink · 08-23-2001, 09:14 AM

Insightful post, Xanobyte. The greater implication of your observations is that the interests of TGP owners and TGP submitters really are diametrically opposed. This has great implications to the success of any model that seeks to replace TGP1.

The TGP owner wants people to come back to the list page. The submitter wants users to click their sponsor links. Here's the problem--the TGP owner would want more hardcore and explicit galleries and shitloads [at least 16 images] of content in their listings. This way the user gets their content and develops loyalty to the site. The TGP submitter wants less content and more suggestive pics to TEASE the user into clicking. He/she could care less about the user becoming loyal to the page--hell, its just a gallery submission with tonz more to follow it. The submitter's number one priority is for the user to click sponsor links. Indeed, the more the user clicks thumbs to pics instead of sponsor links, the submitter does not gain anything outside of higher bandwidth costs.

While some may argue that TGP list owners actually hurt themselves if they list too many hardcore links since this diminishes the appeal of the paysites that they are pushing, this argument neglects the power of user loyalty. If the TGP list owner generates enough user loyalty by doling out copious amounts of hardcore links, they are getting a return on their investment in higher page loads/bookmarks resulting in higher probabilities of users clicking the list owner's sponsor links. In essence, the list owner has the luxury of waiting for a loyal user to "mature" into a sponsor clicker [on the list owner's site] whereas the submitter does not have that luxury--either the user clicks NOW while the user is viewing the gallery or its gone.

Now comes TGP2 trying to "solve" the problem above. Given the huge number of TGP1 sites out there, the competition between both models will probably boil down to who can retain the user. Let me see... a link list that gives me all the explicit core I want or hmmmm, 5 active links to tease pics and some nonlinked thumbs.

TGP2's a good theory, and do we need new ideas to make this industry produce more cash, but there's definitely problems with market reality and consumer psychology.

[This message has been edited by pimplink (edited 08-23-2001).]

08-23-2001, 09:14 AM
pimplink Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Closer than you think Posts: 9,535	Insightful post, Xanobyte. The greater implication of your observations is that the interests of TGP owners and TGP submitters really are diametrically opposed. This has great implications to the success of any model that seeks to replace TGP1. The TGP owner wants people to come back to the list page. The submitter wants users to click their sponsor links. Here's the problem--the TGP owner would want more hardcore and explicit galleries and shitloads [at least 16 images] of content in their listings. This way the user gets their content and develops loyalty to the site. The TGP submitter wants less content and more suggestive pics to TEASE the user into clicking. He/she could care less about the user becoming loyal to the page--hell, its just a gallery submission with tonz more to follow it. The submitter's number one priority is for the user to click sponsor links. Indeed, the more the user clicks thumbs to pics instead of sponsor links, the submitter does not gain anything outside of higher bandwidth costs. While some may argue that TGP list owners actually hurt themselves if they list too many hardcore links since this diminishes the appeal of the paysites that they are pushing, this argument neglects the power of user loyalty. If the TGP list owner generates enough user loyalty by doling out copious amounts of hardcore links, they are getting a return on their investment in higher page loads/bookmarks resulting in higher probabilities of users clicking the list owner's sponsor links. In essence, the list owner has the luxury of waiting for a loyal user to "mature" into a sponsor clicker [on the list owner's site] whereas the submitter does not have that luxury--either the user clicks NOW while the user is viewing the gallery or its gone. Now comes TGP2 trying to "solve" the problem above. Given the huge number of TGP1 sites out there, the competition between both models will probably boil down to who can retain the user. Let me see... a link list that gives me all the explicit core I want or hmmmm, 5 active links to tease pics and some nonlinked thumbs. TGP2's a good theory, and do we need new ideas to make this industry produce more cash, but there's definitely problems with market reality and consumer psychology. [This message has been edited by pimplink (edited 08-23-2001).]