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  • gothweb
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    • Jun 2002
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    Whois Personal Info Requirement may be illegal

    It is nice to see people remembering that basic human rights, and other principles, apply to people who use the internet too...

    http://slashdot.org/articles/03/09/1...&tid=95&tid=99

    http://www.cdt.org/dns/030904cdt.shtml

    (Note: This talks about personal use and information, not business stuff.)

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    • Amputate Your Head
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      • Aug 2001
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      #2
      that talks about PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS.... as an adult webmaster, you are in this for commercial gain, and don't you fucking deny it. Given that basic element, it's YOUR fucking responsibility to conduct your business like a business.

      Get a fucking business line, a P.O. Box, and whatever else you feel necessary to separate your commercial ventures from your personal private life and STOP FUCKING WHINING!!!



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        • freeadultcontent
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          • Oct 2002
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          #3
          Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
          that talks about PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS.... as an adult webmaster, you are in this for commercial gain, and don't you fucking deny it. Given that basic element, it's YOUR fucking responsibility to conduct your business like a business.

          Get a fucking business line, a P.O. Box, and whatever else you feel necessary to separate your commercial ventures from your personal private life and STOP FUCKING WHINING!!!



          bitch.
          I do not understand? Can you please explain in more detail?

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            • gothweb
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              • Jun 2002
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              #4
              Did you even read what I wrote? I said this is about personal use, not business use. My domains have contact information on them, shitstain. This isn't about me, or whining. It's about some of the issues that were raised in previous discussions, about actual privacy of private individuals.

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                • DamageX
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                  • Jun 2001
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                  #5
                  Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                  that talks about PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS.... as an adult webmaster, you are in this for commercial gain, and don't you fucking deny it. Given that basic element, it's YOUR fucking responsibility to conduct your business like a business.

                  Get a fucking business line, a P.O. Box, and whatever else you feel necessary to separate your commercial ventures from your personal private life and STOP FUCKING WHINING!!!



                  bitch.
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                    • Amputate Your Head
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by gothweb
                      Did you even read what I wrote? I said this is about personal use, not business use. My domains have contact information on them, shitstain. This isn't about me, or whining. It's about some of the issues that were raised in previous discussions, about actual privacy of private individuals.
                      yeah..... a bunch of fucking WHINERS, that fail to fucking read and comprehend the goddamned agreement to aquiring a fucking domain. THEY PUT THAT SHIT IN THERE VOLUNTARILY!!!! No one made anyone register a fucking domain.


                      bring on the fucking violins. I sense a river of fucking tears coming.
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                        • mrthumbs
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                          • Apr 2002
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                          that talks about PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS.... as an adult webmaster, you are in this for commercial gain, and don't you fucking deny it. Given that basic element, it's YOUR fucking responsibility to conduct your business like a business.

                          Get a fucking business line, a P.O. Box, and whatever else you feel necessary to separate your commercial ventures from your personal private life and STOP FUCKING WHINING!!!



                          bitch.
                          Come on now, be nice to Ian!

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                            • gothweb
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                              yeah..... a bunch of fucking WHINERS, that fail to fucking read and comprehend the goddamned agreement to aquiring a fucking domain. THEY PUT THAT SHIT IN THERE VOLUNTARILY!!!! No one made anyone register a fucking domain.


                              bring on the fucking violins. I sense a river of fucking tears coming.
                              There are some standards that say that there are rights it should not be legal to make someone sign away, even by choice to get something else they want. Even if you don't agree with such standards, I bet you are intelligent enough to discuss the issue without so much use of the clever intellectual tools known as ALL CAPS and LOTS OF EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!

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                                • Sly_RJ
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                                  • Feb 2002
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                                  #9
                                  Getting a domain is sort of like getting your drivers license... it's not a right, it's a privilege.
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                                    • DamageX
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                                      • Jun 2001
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                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                                      Getting a domain is sort of like getting your drivers license... it's not a right, it's a privilege.
                                      I'd be really interested in hearing how you motivate the use of this analogy...
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                                        • Amputate Your Head
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                                          • Aug 2001
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by gothweb


                                          There are some standards that say that there are rights it should not be legal to make someone sign away, even by choice to get something else they want. Even if you don't agree with such standards, I bet you are intelligent enough to discuss the issue without so much use of the clever intellectual tools known as ALL CAPS and LOTS OF EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!
                                          like I said, no one is forcing anyone to register a domain. Don't like the requirements? Don't register. Same as buying a house. You buy a house, the details are public fucking knowledge. Don't like it? Don't buy a house. No one is forcing you.
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                                            • gothweb
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                                              • Jun 2002
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                                              #12
                                              For the record: My favourite thing about Amp's insta-rant was that I didn't express much in the way of opinion. I made a brief general comment, and presented two URLs. Interesting response... for a grown man, anyhow.

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                                                • Amputate Your Head
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                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by gothweb
                                                  For the record: My favourite thing about Amp's insta-rant was that I didn't express much in the way of opinion. I made a brief general comment, and presented two URLs. Interesting response... for a grown man, anyhow.
                                                  the problem I have with it is, this is not a mandatory thing. You want your privacy? Fine. Don't voluntarily submit your so called "private" info to a database that is brutally public. It's not fucking rocket science.
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                                                    • gothweb
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                                                      #14
                                                      I forgot the third subtle weapon in Amp's cutting-edge armory of rhetoric, copious use of the word "fuck".

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                                                        • Amputate Your Head
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by gothweb
                                                          I forgot the third subtle weapon in Amp's cutting-edge armory of rhetoric, copious use of the word "fuck".
                                                          okay fine..... we'll do this on your terms goth freak.


                                                          Present to me one reason why your info should be exempt from the whois db when registering a domain. I will rebutt without the use of 'fuck'.
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                                                            • gothweb
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                                              okay fine..... we'll do this on your terms goth freak.


                                                              Present to me one reason why your info should be exempt from the whois db when registering a domain. I will rebutt without the use of 'fuck'.
                                                              I do not feel my info should be exempt. I run adult websites for profit.

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                                                                • Amputate Your Head
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by gothweb


                                                                  I do not feel my info should be exempt. I run adult websites for profit.
                                                                  very well. Present to me one reason why anyone's info should be exempt from the db.
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                                                                    • TheJimmy
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                                                                      • Jan 2001
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by gothweb
                                                                      For the record: My favourite thing about Amp's insta-rant was that I didn't express much in the way of opinion. I made a brief general comment, and presented two URLs. Interesting response... for a grown man, anyhow.

                                                                      he's just wired ...

                                                                      that's 'his thing'...

                                                                      even myself, with my amazing powers of observation, figured that one out ;)

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                                                                        • gothweb
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                                                          very well. Present to me one reason why anyone's info should be exempt from the db.
                                                                          I could easily turn that around. Present to me one reason why the whole world needs to have a way to contact every person who runs a website with it's own domain.

                                                                          To put that in the form of a reason: Nothing necessary about the administration of domains necessitates making private information about private individuals available to everyone with a computer. You can have an unlisted phone number, right?

                                                                          The people who might need to track you, like law enforcement, can get a warrant to track you down based on your domain or your phone number. The people who administer the domain (or phone system) likewise have ways to contact you. Why take it any further?

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                                                                            • Sly_RJ
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                                                              very well. Present to me one reason why anyone's info should be exempt from the db.
                                                                              Didn't you know that people should have some sort of "right to privacy" when REGISTERING a LICENSE to RENT a domain?

                                                                              What's up with Budget taking my personal information when I rent a car? The fuck. They have no right to infringe on my right to privacy.
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                                                                                • gothweb
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                                                                  Didn't you know that people should have some sort of "right to privacy" when REGISTERING a LICENSE to RENT a domain?

                                                                                  What's up with Budget taking my personal information when I rent a car? The fuck. They have no right to infringe on my right to privacy.
                                                                                  Is Budget required to post that information for all to see, in order to have a license to rent cars? I could have sworn it would be considered unethical, and possibly illegal, if they publicized all such information.

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                                                                                    • Amputate Your Head
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                                                                      Didn't you know that people should have some sort of "right to privacy" when REGISTERING a LICENSE to RENT a domain?

                                                                                      What's up with Budget taking my personal information when I rent a car? The fuck. They have no right to infringe on my right to privacy.
                                                                                      my argument in the past was that domains are 'leased' not 'owned'...... that was put down by the sex.com case. Apparently, even though you never truly 'own' a domain, it seems that you do. Beside the point. The fine print clearly states that you must submit your info. If someone has a problem with that, they are free to opt out of registering.

                                                                                      And that's the bottom fucki.... err.... fargen line. (said I wouldn't use *fuck*, so I won't.... Ian is sensitive like that)
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                                                                                        • Amputate Your Head
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                                                                                          • Aug 2001
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          buncha crybaby fucking bitches.... my point has been more than made. Cry on fuckers. I'm outta this thread.
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                                                                                            • gothweb
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              It doesn't hurt me when you swear, Amp. It just sometimes makes you look stupid.

                                                                                              As for the "fine print" argument. On many occasions, the fine print of a contract has been deemed illegal, and struck down. There are laws and standards governing what sorts of agreements you can enter into.

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                                                                                                • TheJimmy
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                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                                                                                  very well. Present to me one reason why anyone's info should be exempt from the db.

                                                                                                  1) privacy
                                                                                                  2) we live in the US not the USSR...yet
                                                                                                  3) phones are allowed to be unlisted, is that a right or priviledge?
                                                                                                  -- if there is a legal beef the phone company if subpoen'd (sp?) can and would divludge the info...same should work with registrars...
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                                                                                                    • Sly_RJ
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                                                                                                      • Feb 2002
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Some valid points made.
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                                                                                                        • Amputate Your Head
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                                                                                                          • Aug 2001
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          what's really funny about it, those that are unable to fucking think and adapt, cry and whine.

                                                                                                          Those that are able to think and adapt, you don't hear from.


                                                                                                          wonder why that is.... hmmm.....


                                                                                                          too many fucking idiots in this world. We should put them down. It's the humane thing to do.
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                                                                                                            • gothweb
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              I started this thread to start a discussion. You walked in, guns blazing, making a lot of assumptions about me, my position, and anyone who is interested in the possibilities raised in the links. It was immature, and it didn't do anyone any good.

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                                                                                                                • TheJimmy
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                                                                                                  ...too many fucking idiots in this world. We should put them down. It's the humane thing to do.

                                                                                                                  would have to agree on that point, but unfortunately I'd bet that the people making the list would be idiots themselves

                                                                                                                  as far as adapting, that's already being done....ala godaddy.com's domains-by-proxy service, etc...



                                                                                                                  not rocket science there, found a need/demand and filling it...
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                                                                                                                    • DamageX
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                                                                                                      too many fucking idiots in this world. We should put them down. It's the humane thing to do.
                                                                                                                      How full of empathy some can be...
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                                                                                                                        • Amputate Your Head
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                                                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                          • 39075
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by gothweb
                                                                                                                          I started this thread to start a discussion. You walked in, guns blazing, making a lot of assumptions about me, my position, and anyone who is interested in the possibilities raised in the links. It was immature, and it didn't do anyone any good.
                                                                                                                          my guns are always smokin' from the last kill.... you expected less?


                                                                                                                          oh, but I see my efforts here are not appreciated. Very well. Good luck with your thread face painter vampire wannabe goth dude. I'm sure it'll go far.

                                                                                                                          And I'll be sure not to interject in any more of your highly intellectual pieces of historical art.
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                                                                                                                            • Amputate Your Head
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                                                                                                                              • Aug 2001
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              and you can sign that with your fake blood, goth style. Maybe even say a devil chant or something stupid on my behalf.
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                                                                                                                                • gothweb
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                                                                                                                  and you can sign that with your fake blood, goth style. Maybe even say a devil chant or something stupid on my behalf.
                                                                                                                                  You have no idea who I am. I've worn make-up fewer than a dozen times in my life, and not for like seven years. I sign with a pen, usually plain black ink. I don't believe in the devil. I'm blond. Stereotypes are for idiots.

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                                                                                                                                    • chodadog
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Gothweb simply posted a link. God knows what the fuck you're talking about, Amp. There is no reason to make the registration information for a non-commercial domain public. I mean, i don't really care about the subject. It doesn't effect me. But it shouldn't be required on personal websites. The registrar would need the info, of course. But there's no need for it to be public.
                                                                                                                                      26 + 6 = 1

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                                                                                                                                        • Amputate Your Head
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                                                                                                                                          • 39075
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by chodadog
                                                                                                                                          Gothweb simply posted a link. God knows what the fuck you're talking about, Amp. There is no reason to make the registration information for a non-commercial domain public. I mean, i don't really care about the subject. It doesn't effect me. But it shouldn't be required on personal websites. The registrar would need the info, of course. But there's no need for it to be public.
                                                                                                                                          and the INSTANT that happens, guess what.... everyone is registering 'non-commercial' domains...

                                                                                                                                          nevermind... this is gothdummy's thread. I'm done contributing.
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                                                                                                                                            • chodadog
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              At the risk of having your domain taken away by the registrar? Anyone who is making serious money isn't going to try and hide their info if they risk losing their domain name.
                                                                                                                                              26 + 6 = 1

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                                                                                                                                                • magicmike
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                                                                                                                                                  I like this from that link

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