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  • Quotealex
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    • Sep 2001
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    #1

    At last no more Hell Angels in Montreal (Canada).

    They all pleaded guilty of drug traffic, murder and gansterism, and will be jailed for at least a decade. This is a great day for Montreal and Canada.
  • com
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    #2
    Hahaha hope you dont really think they're all gone!

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    • ElvisManson
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      • Feb 2001
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      #3
      um...you don't REALLY believe that do you?

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      • Manga1
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        #4
        Hehe more room for the Bandidos to play.

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        • LadyMischief
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          #5
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          • Fabien
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            #6
            Nope

            Only 9 of them Alex

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            • Quotealex
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              #7
              Originally posted by Fabien
              Nope

              Only 9 of them Alex
              The others are already locked-up for a very long time.

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              • Fletch XXX
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                #8
                hahaha


                yeah okay.

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                • Fabien
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                  #9
                  3 left...........

                  Those are still waiting ...........

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                  • Stallion
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Alex from Montreal


                    The others are already locked-up for a very long time.
                    hahaha

                    yeah sure all of them are locked up.
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                    • Quotealex
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                      • Sep 2001
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Fabien
                      3 left...........

                      Those are still waiting ...........
                      The other three are just prospects (not full patch) and rockers. They are insignificant.

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                      • ElvisManson
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                        • Feb 2001
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Alex from Montreal


                        The others are already locked-up for a very long time.
                        Mom Boucher may be gone...but there are plenty left....lol

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                        • Quotealex
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Stallion


                          hahaha

                          yeah sure all of them are locked up.
                          Which one of them is not behind bar?

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                          • Fletch XXX
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                            • Jan 2002
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Alex from Montreal


                            Which one of them is not behind bar?
                            There is no place without M Clubs.

                            So Cal is covered in biker gangs, and I assue you we have pplenty of Hell's Angels.

                            If you think for one second if they had 10 in Montreal and there are no more, wrong. These guys are more organized than the government ;)

                            Theres some biker club hang outs in the valley where you can literally see 1-200 bikes line a street near a pub or hang out. And I see them on the freeway everyday.

                            There are very few major cities in the west without bikes and clubs man.

                            Ever read Hunter S Thompsons book on them? I have.

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                            • Fletch XXX
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                              #15
                              'In return, the nine escaped the punishment for first-degree murder: life sentences without a chance for parole for 25 years. Presentencing arguments begin Sept. 22. One defence lawyer said his client was offered a 15-year sentence. Others are expected to get 20 years.'

                              so much crime and so little time, shows their power.


                              'The jurors also weren't told that some the defendants each earned up to $30,000 a month from drug sales. Some salted away as much as $4.5-million in offshore bank accounts.'

                              Their funds again show their power.

                              Gangs like this dont die that easily.

                              They shut down certain bars a little early sometimes here on certain holidays if a large biker party is going to be rolling through, just to get patrons off the streets when they roll by like thunder.

                              Uncles were all bikers, and still hang with a few of them.

                              Ill drink with a biker before more people.

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                              • FUCK J0EL
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                                #16
                                Alex...are you willing to bet that within the 6 months we will have a major story concerning the Hells right here in Montreal...

                                They jailed 9 guys...I guess you've never been to Lennoxville when all the Hells are there...they are a lot more than just 9 guys.

                                And even with 9 Hells in jail, that doesn't mean there will be no more bikers...you forgot they were in a war with other bikers...and they are not all locked up
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                                • 0zzy
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                                  • Jan 2002
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                                  #17
                                  Alex, if you think there is only 9 Hells Angel(HA) in Quebec (Montreal), you need to open your eyes.

                                  There is way morethan 9 HA and 3 prospect. It's not because the 3 guys didn't kill anyone that they are'nt HA. Anyway... It's just the beginning of the end.
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                                  • Quotealex
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                                    #18
                                    Fletch XXX, I hope you are not comparing other bikers or even other Hell Angels chapters to the one in Montreal! Here in Montreal they are cold blood mass muderers that have at shot journalists, lawyers, guards and even eliminated a whole chapter of their own brothers in Quebec...

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                                    • LadyMischief
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
                                      Fletch XXX, I hope you are not comparing other bikers or even other Hell Angels chapters to the one in Montreal! Here in Montreal they are cold blood mass muderers that have at shot journalists, lawyers, guards and even eliminated a whole chapter of their own brothers in Quebec...
                                      Heh, you seem to think the bikers there are worse than anywhere else? I remember a few years back, the local chapter of the Angels in Alberta had made the initial steps in the purchase of an ex-military underground bunker. You HONESTLY think the ones on Montreal are worse than the ones in Los Angeles? Give me a fucking BREAK.

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                                      • Fletch XXX
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                                        #20
                                        blah blah blah, there are local gangs here that do far worst shit.

                                        Hells Angels are just popular because of the scare the government and law enforcement have built them up to be.

                                        Come fuck with one of the Socal 'Devils Disciples' - there are plenty of other gangs that will fuck you up here. Hella Angels are more myth than reality and anyone can tell. READ instead of watching the news.

                                        I asked if youve read any books on them you never answered.

                                        So my guess is the only thing you know about them is what the news tells you.

                                        Far from the truth obviously.

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                                        • Fletch XXX
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by LadyMischief


                                          You HONESTLY think the ones on Montreal are worse than the ones in Los Angeles? Give me a fucking BREAK.
                                          Exactly.

                                          These gangs run their empire from Los Angeles not the other way around hehehe

                                          I love seeing the long lines of bikers on the feeeway, ive NEVER been fucked with by one.

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                                          • JFK
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                                            #22
                                            If you think they are Gone , you are being extremely naive in your assumption

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                                            • LadyMischief
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                              blah blah blah, there are local gangs here that do far worst shit.

                                              Hells Angels are just popular because of the scare the government and law enforcement have built them up to be.

                                              Come fuck with one of the Socal 'Devils Disciples' - there are plenty of other gangs that will fuck you up here. Hella Angels are more myth than reality and anyone can tell. READ instead of watching the news.

                                              I asked if youve read any books on them you never answered.

                                              So my guess is the only thing you know about them is what the news tells you.

                                              Far from the truth obviously.

                                              http://www.missoulian.com/specials/h...gels/ha01.html
                                              Of course they scare the government/law enforcement. They outgun the cops by a fucking landslide! My mother was very good friends with an Angels-affiliate gang, and I grew up around them. Trust me some of the things I saw would make fucking KOREA nervous.

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                                              • LadyMischief
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Fletch XXX


                                                Exactly.

                                                These gangs run their empire from Los Angeles not the other way around hehehe

                                                I love seeing the long lines of bikers on the feeeway, ive NEVER been fucked with by one.
                                                I used to love it.. we had three distinct "gangs" in our city. The Asians, the Lebanese, and the Bikers. And no matter HOW many Lebs or Asians were in one of their little crews (Usually there were like 50 guys and 1 or two with handgun), they would piss their pants and run home to mama even if ONE Biker looked at them sideways. Fuck I had one Leb guy at school kept bugging me to go out with him. I finally got sick of him and wore colors to school, that little fucker shat his pants every time he saw me from then on, and I never said a word. Even the pissants knew when they were outgunned on a massive scale.

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                                                • Fletch XXX
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by LadyMischief


                                                  Of course they scare the government/law enforcement. They outgun the cops by a fucking landslide! My mother was very good friends with an Angels-affiliate gang, and I grew up around them. Trust me some of the things I saw would make fucking KOREA nervous.
                                                  I was talking about how people have built up the Hells Angels myth.

                                                  Sure they have done some bad shit but so have many. Its just the hells Angel myth stuck because of early myth.

                                                  No different than the Charles Manson murders.

                                                  His story was built up way moer than some of the more horrific murders here. But in the hippie days it was a lot easier to scare the world.

                                                  Same thing with Hells Angels, early news and old reports of 'Biker Rapings And Killings' simply add to the story but werent necessarily true.

                                                  Every Sunday about 100 bikers gather not too far from me. They have a pub, a tat shop, and a smoke shop they hang in their own pub next door. ;) I hear them come every weekend.

                                                  love the Thunder.

                                                  I hang with bikers and drink with bikers at my favorite pub.

                                                  Nothing beats that.

                                                  I was with a biker friend not too long ago and taking pics of his new bike he built for a girlfriend.

                                                  Good times.

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                                                  • Phoenix
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                                                    #26
                                                    ah..they are good people...for themost part they leave civilians alone.

                                                    there are more then you think...i remember when i first saw bikers in ontario...i was a little kid..and they had a cottage/metting area near where i was growing up...the bikes would drive past forever..a never ending thunder.

                                                    course..they had a different name back then
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                                                    • JFK
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Fletch XXX


                                                      I was talking about how people have built up the Hells Angels myth.

                                                      Sure they have done some bad shit but so have many. Its just the hells Angel myth stuck because of early myth.

                                                      No different than the Charles Manson murders.

                                                      His story was built up way moer than some of the more horrific murders here. But in the hippie days it was a lot easier to scare the world.

                                                      Same thing with Hells Angels, early news and old reports of 'Biker Rapings And Killings' simply add to the story but werent necessarily true.

                                                      Every Sunday about 100 bikers gather not too far from me. They have a pub, a tat shop, and a smoke shop they hang in their own pub next door. ;) I hear them come every weekend.

                                                      love the Thunder.

                                                      I hang with bikers and drink with bikers at my favorite pub.

                                                      Nothing beats that.

                                                      I was with a biker friend not too long ago and taking pics of his new bike he built for a girlfriend.

                                                      Good times.
                                                      I used to hang with some as well while I had my bike.Great Times. Generally they dont bother "citizens" but like with everything there could be a bad apple in the bunch.Like you said a lot of it is built on myth. The law enforcements get their funding by making mountains out of molehills. That is not to say that they are all innocent Angels

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                                                        • NoCarrier
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                                                          Damn, I thought that prosecuting drug dealers was the solution.. This means drug is still a problem!?

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                                                          • Fletch XXX
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                                                            • Jan 2002
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by JFK

                                                            That is not to say that they are all innocent Angels
                                                            Here the LAPD 'Anti-Gang- division gets busted for being just as bad as the gangs they seek.

                                                            http://www.lapdonline.org/press_rele...00/ed00017.htm
                                                            http://www.nbc4.tv/news/1489881/detail.html


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                                                            • LadyMischief
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Fletch XXX


                                                              I was talking about how people have built up the Hells Angels myth.

                                                              Sure they have done some bad shit but so have many. Its just the hells Angel myth stuck because of early myth.

                                                              No different than the Charles Manson murders.

                                                              His story was built up way moer than some of the more horrific murders here. But in the hippie days it was a lot easier to scare the world.

                                                              Same thing with Hells Angels, early news and old reports of 'Biker Rapings And Killings' simply add to the story but werent necessarily true.

                                                              Every Sunday about 100 bikers gather not too far from me. They have a pub, a tat shop, and a smoke shop they hang in their own pub next door. ;) I hear them come every weekend.

                                                              love the Thunder.

                                                              I hang with bikers and drink with bikers at my favorite pub.

                                                              Nothing beats that.

                                                              I was with a biker friend not too long ago and taking pics of his new bike he built for a girlfriend.

                                                              Good times.
                                                              My grandmother lives in a predominantly biker neighbourhood, and I won't let her move. There are NO robberies, no teenagers causing shit, no huge ass ripper parties. They keep their street calm and they keep the riffraff out. AND they have a healthy respect for seniors. I don't know HOW many times one or another biker has helped my grandmother with her car, shoveled her walk, whatever. But like I say, I feel safe knowing she lives there, more than I would anywhere else in the city. They keep their turf clear. That's what matters to me.

                                                              And I love the bikes too mmm.

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                                                              • LadyMischief
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by KRL


                                                                Yeh OK

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                                                                • SirTreX
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  they're on GFY as well, they'll kick your ass Alex. Run Alex RUN!

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                                                                  • LadyMischief
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    My father-in-law told me about a time once when he was in the military, the bikers had some kind of arguement with the local police here in Banhahahahaha. He was coming home one day and apparently the Bikers had basically cut off every road in or out of town, ahd the cops were so outgunned they couldn't do anything about it. I'm not sure what the dispute was about, but he was very amused about the whole situation and had a good time telling me about it

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                                                                    • JFK
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Fletch XXX


                                                                      Here the LAPD 'Anti-Gang- division gets busted for being just as bad as the gangs they seek.

                                                                      http://www.lapdonline.org/press_rele...00/ed00017.htm
                                                                      http://www.nbc4.tv/news/1489881/detail.html

                                                                      Its not very hard to cross over that fine line, is it ?

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                                                                      • DrGuile
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        I would past by a Hell's Angels bunker everyday on my way to college. Very nice building...

                                                                        On a hillside, cameras, 20 feet fences, attack dogs...

                                                                        But they would never hang out there, They owned 3-4 Condos a few dozen yards away.... they were always there....

                                                                        Bunker was just too much of an attention magnet.
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                                                                        • JFK
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by SirTreX
                                                                          they're on GFY as well, they'll kick your ass Alex. Run Alex RUN!
                                                                          Oh Oh...............

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                                                                          • LadyMischief
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by DrGuile
                                                                            I would past by a Hell's Angels bunker everyday on my way to college. Very nice building...

                                                                            On a hillside, cameras, 20 feet fences, attack dogs...

                                                                            But they would never hang out there, They owned 3-4 Condos a few dozen yards away.... they were always there....

                                                                            Bunker was just too much of an attention magnet.
                                                                            No, no. The bunker was one word. S-T-O-R-A-G-E

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                                                                              #39
                                                                              yeah im sure there isnt 100s more
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                                                                                • SykkBoy2
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I would trust the Hell's Angels FAR more than I would any major metropolitan police department....

                                                                                  At least the bikers have a code of honor and stick by it....
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                                                                                  • xxxdesign-net
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Fletch XXX


                                                                                    I was talking about how people have built up the Hells Angels myth.

                                                                                    Sure they have done some bad shit but so have many. Its just the hells Angel myth stuck because of early myth.


                                                                                    Hells Angels are not just a myth in Quebec.. as well as other biker gangs like the Bandidos, etc... They are more or less like the mafia..

                                                                                    As for them being now gone... thats ridiculous... other leaders will emerge...

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                                                                                    • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by xxxdesign-net



                                                                                      Hells Angels are not just a myth in Quebec.. as well as other biker gangs like the Bandidos, etc... They are more or less like the mafia..

                                                                                      As for them being now gone... thats ridiculous... other leaders will emerge...
                                                                                      I did NOT say they wre a myth. I was saying there is a MYTH built up around them.

                                                                                      I dont turn on the news and hear about 'BIker Rapings And Bikers Kill and Rape grandma' is what I was saying.

                                                                                      No different than the Geraldo Rivera based 'Satanic Ritual Baby Killings' there has NEVER BEEN ONE, yet he reported they were everywhere.

                                                                                      its scare tactics used by the media. Simple.

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                                                                                      • ElvisManson
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                                                                                        I would trust the Hell's Angels FAR more than I would any major metropolitan police department....

                                                                                        At least the bikers have a code of honor and stick by it....
                                                                                        Amen Brother. I know quite a few and the reason they are friends of mine is for exactly that. If you fuck with them you have made a life altering mistake...but if you treat them with respect and honor ( as you should with everyone ) then you have some of the best people in the world on your side.

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                                                                                        • juice
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by LadyMischief


                                                                                          My grandmother lives in a predominantly biker neighbourhood, and I won't let her move. There are NO robberies, no teenagers causing shit, no huge ass ripper parties. They keep their street calm and they keep the riffraff out. AND they have a healthy respect for seniors. I don't know HOW many times one or another biker has helped my grandmother with her car, shoveled her walk, whatever. But like I say, I feel safe knowing she lives there, more than I would anywhere else in the city. They keep their turf clear. That's what matters to me.

                                                                                          And I love the bikes too mmm.


                                                                                          so sweet... the mafia has always done the same thing...

                                                                                          However... the mafia and Bikers are well known for extortion... Probably most of the restaurants and bars around your grandma have to give a % of their earnings to them... with consequences if they dont!

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                                                                                          • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                            • Jan 2002
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by ElvisManson


                                                                                            Amen Brother. I know quite a few and the reason they are friends of mine is for exactly that. If you fuck with them you have made a life altering mistake...but if you treat them with respect and honor ( as you should with everyone ) then you have some of the best people in the world on your side.

                                                                                            Exactly.

                                                                                            Its always some punks fuck with someone first and then get their ass handed to them.

                                                                                            EVEN the police here say this. The Hells Angels hurt fucks when provoked. Did they deserve a beating? Maybe not, but dont fucking mouth off to thee wrong person and you wont get your ass beat down.

                                                                                            I hang in a few bad places and some biker clubs arent allowed in them. They stroll in every now and then depending on what bartender is working, sometimes they are asked to leave sometimes not.

                                                                                            From my experience, just dont fuck with them and as long as they arent causing trouble, they are actually kinda like deadly spiders.

                                                                                            You want them around because they keep certain things away, but they can also harm you if you get too close.

                                                                                            Ive sat outside bars here and smoked herbs with groups of bikers for hours and have had some of the best conversations with burly old guys talking about the road and hot women and music.

                                                                                            What else is there in life?



                                                                                            Last edited by Fletch XXX; 09-12-2003, 08:15 AM.

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                                                                                            • juice
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by ElvisManson


                                                                                              Amen Brother. I know quite a few and the reason they are friends of mine is for exactly that. If you fuck with them you have made a life altering mistake...but if you treat them with respect and honor ( as you should with everyone ) then you have some of the best people in the world on your side.



                                                                                              treat them with respect and honor??

                                                                                              What does that mean? if they tell you to pay them a % of your earnings.. do you then need to say Thanks you?

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                                                                                              • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                'While in Colorado, the Hells Angels were involved in a number of "incidents," including bar fights, stabbings and shootings. The locals, and even local law enforcement officers, admit the Hells Angels didn't exactly start any of the trouble, but they finished every bit of it that came their way.

                                                                                                The Angels responded only when provoked, but "provoked" seems to have a somewhat different definition to the bikers. Is a local drunk's smart-mouth provocation enough for a malicious stomping? Warner doesn't think so, but then Warner doesn't live in the same society as this most uncompromising of men's clubs.'

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                                                                                                • ElvisManson
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                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by juice




                                                                                                  treat them with respect and honor??

                                                                                                  What does that mean? if they tell you to pay them a % of your earnings.. do you then need to say Thanks you?
                                                                                                  I can tell by your response that you believe everything you hear or read about them on the news.

                                                                                                  95% of what i see in the news about "bikers' is Bull shit.

                                                                                                  Feel free to keep your ignorance to your self....lol

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                                                                                                  • cyberpunk
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                                                                                                    • Feb 2001
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Funny reading this thread....

                                                                                                    IMO...

                                                                                                    1) They are not all gone.....

                                                                                                    2) if they where it woudl be a bad thing, it would create a power vacuum and casue instability in the area

                                                                                                    3) Any of the guys I've met b4 are standup guys, when they tell you something they mean it, good or bad you know where you stand, if everyone was this we'd all be ALOT fuckin better off.

                                                                                                    4) Do you think only bikers and the mafia collect payments from small business? Gov't and police to it all the time. Most business owners and residents in areas where there are members love having them in the area. Keeps crime way down with out providing 'free' coffee, food etc to the cops that already get paid buy all our taxes dollars to 'keep them safe'
                                                                                                    Last edited by cyberpunk; 09-12-2003, 08:32 AM.
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