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  • Polak
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2003
    • 620

    #1

    MR-CASH is a crook

    look at this shit...

    6/16/2003 $1009.2 pending details
    7/7/2003 $835.1 pending details
    7/15/2003 $797.4 pending details
    8/4/2003 $429.3 pending details
    8/28/2003 $88.75 pending details

    Ive been sending this guy traffic for like over 1 year before this shit happened with no problems (made over 15,000), and now after 2.5 months of sending this guy traffic this guy keeps ignoring my EMAILS and i think he blocked me on ICQ (cause he used to be online a lot, and lately hes never been on)

    When I last talked to this guy like 2 weeks ago and asked for a reason, he gave me some bullshit reason that i had duplicate IP's joining or some crap, didn't really make any sense... He basically told me to GO FUCK MYSELF.

    I think its time to end this kinda fucken bullshit... He owes me over 3000 USD and i was thinking about filing a lawsuit (even if i only get like 2000 USD its still worth it)

    Can I get some opinions from you guys.
  • TheJimmy
    ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
    • Jan 2001
    • 10747

    #2
    welcome to the sad state of affairs that is O too common in this industry...



    webmasters fucked by affiliates

    affiliates fucked by webmasters

    surfers fucked by both...



    this biz is based on fucking in more than one way...
    Investor with 5m - 15m USD to invest. Do you have a site or network of sites earning 50k - 200k a month income? Email your contact and preliminary data to: domain.cashventures (at) gmail.com....Please...no tire kickers...serious offers and inquiries only.

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    • Pornkings
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2002
      • 5334

      #3
      Originally posted by TheJimmy
      welcome to the sad state of affairs that is O too common in this industry...



      webmasters fucked by affiliates

      affiliates fucked by webmasters

      surfers fucked by both...



      this biz is based on fucking in more than one way...
      Only if you choose the wrong people to do biz with.

      shit does happen and the industry is changing so stick with the people you trust.
      Pornkings.com

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      • TheJimmy
        ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
        • Jan 2001
        • 10747

        #4
        Originally posted by Pornkings


        Only if you choose the wrong people to do biz with.

        shit does happen and the industry is changing so stick with the people you trust.

        VERY true man, very true...

        That's a lesson that took me quite a while to learn...

        the other valuable one I learned from a 'sellers' perspective is not to put all your eggs in one basket...and only use sponsors that people you trust have good things to say about...or personally know...
        Investor with 5m - 15m USD to invest. Do you have a site or network of sites earning 50k - 200k a month income? Email your contact and preliminary data to: domain.cashventures (at) gmail.com....Please...no tire kickers...serious offers and inquiries only.

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        • Polak
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2003
          • 620

          #5
          Anyone have a phone number to them?

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          • NoCarrier
            We need more free porn
            • Mar 2002
            • 16356

            #6
            Originally posted by Polak
            Anyone have a phone number to them?
            Yes..

            https://www.ifccfbi.gov/complaint/cf2.asp

            Trust me, I received my 5k pretty fast. U can't believe how fast..

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            • Polak
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2003
              • 620

              #7
              OK Im going to try that

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              • brand0n
                been very busy
                • Nov 2002
                • 26983

                #8
                mr-cash never really fucked me, they were just an odd company to send traffic 2, i moved to cash.com for all my email sign ups, u might want to consider using them instead

                eather or, good luck
                want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                • buddyjuf

                  #9
                  Originally posted by NoCarrier


                  Yes..

                  https://www.ifccfbi.gov/complaint/cf2.asp

                  Trust me, I received my 5k pretty fast. U can't believe how fast..
                  bro are you serious?
                  because they owe me a few K as well and they say its because sometimes there was more than 1 signup per IP and as soon as they see that, my account is frozen. they count all the signups, they get the emails but dont pay me a cent

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                  • ztik
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 5196

                    #10
                    Wow, thats a bad new. Mr-cash was one of the first sponsors I ever used. They used to always payout on time without problems. I think that was back in 98 or 99 though, im not sure
                    .

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                    • NoCarrier
                      We need more free porn
                      • Mar 2002
                      • 16356

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bdjuf


                      bro are you serious?
                      because they owe me a few K as well and they say its because sometimes there was more than 1 signup per IP and as soon as they see that, my account is frozen. they count all the signups, they get the emails but dont pay me a cent
                      It was another sponsor. Once they received news from the FEDS, I almost received flowers with the missing check. I hope this will be the same with u guys. Unless they really want to feel the Federal Prison love.

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                      • buddyjuf

                        #12
                        Originally posted by NoCarrier


                        It was another sponsor. Once they received news from the FEDS, I almost received flowers with the missing check. I hope this will be the same with u guys. Unless they really want to feel the Federal Prison love.
                        I probably did get a few signups for the same email, it IS free email porn anyways

                        they told me that right when I start getting 2 ips for 1 single signup, they are allowed to shut me down

                        but what I HATE about this, they didnt close me, they just kept my account going and just not paying me, its still open today and accepting traffic

                        I think they owe me some 5000$ or so on my account
                        and not paying, they say there is nothing I can do, just shut up and accept the consequences of a few stupid users out of thousands... very VERY stupid

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                        • buddyjuf

                          #13
                          polak, if you can, contact me on ICQ: 178340550 or AIM: bdjufff

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                          • Polak
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 620

                            #14
                            ya my account is still active, and I have 5 pending payments issued but no checks... and if i still sent traffic it would still count

                            they used the same excuse for the both of us, and since its free porn i can see that happening that when a stupid visitor sees FREE PORN offer he might want to make 2 accounts with different e-mails just to make sure that he has a spare account.

                            They dont know that its really one big spamming network until they log in and realize that its just garbage porn.

                            IM CHOKED....

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                            • nomisj104
                              Registered User
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 22

                              #15
                              The fact of the matter is you cheated our system and you will not be paid. It really is a shame that it has come to this but so be it if I have to prove that we have not wronged any webmasters. I have legit proof that you have cheated us. How is that you got more single-opt in signups then douple opt-ins plus you have absoluty no exit traffic which is impossible not to mention that 1/3 of your sales are coming from duplicate ip adresses. And to top that majority of the email adresses coming from your traffic were bogus. I even asked where you were promoting us and to send a link so that I could take a look but you acted like you did not understand anything I was saying. Now you have been paid until we saw that you were cheating. I already disclosed this info to you in private and need be I can post our conversation if anybody would like to see. Mr-Cash has been around since 1996 and we pride ourselves on paying everyone on time as long as they are legit which you are not. I also suggest that if anyone who reads this should consider sending your traffic else where.

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                              • nomisj104
                                Registered User
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 22

                                #16
                                [QUOTE]Originally posted by bdjuf
                                [B]

                                I probably did get a few signups for the same email, it IS free email porn anyways




                                So I guess that makes it alright for people to cheat us doesn't it?

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                                • Oracle Porn
                                  Affiliate
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 24433

                                  #17
                                  I wanna see proof!


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                                  • Oracle Porn
                                    Affiliate
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 24433

                                    #18
                                    [QUOTE]Originally posted by nomisj104
                                    [B]
                                    Originally posted by bdjuf


                                    I probably did get a few signups for the same email, it IS free email porn anyways




                                    So I guess that makes it alright for people to cheat us doesn't it?
                                    pay him per ip?


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                                    • Polak
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2003
                                      • 620

                                      #19
                                      We pride ourselves since 1996.. bla bla bla... shut the fuck up... look at this convo u crook...

                                      JAKE (12:05 PM) :
                                      I want my money man

                                      MR-CASH - nomisj104 (12:07 PM) :
                                      Give me your acct. number
                                      JAKE (12:08 PM) :
                                      1****
                                      JAKE (12:10 PM) :
                                      can you send me my money so we can go our seperate ways...
                                      MR-CASH - nomisj104 (12:12 PM) :
                                      Because of you going to gfy last night my ceo is personally checking your acct. and will give me answer shortly
                                      JAKE (12:14 PM) :
                                      well after 2 months of getting screwed around and lied to, i figured GFY was the solution at the moment... I hear you didn't pay other webmasters with the same reason you gave me.
                                      JAKE (12:17 PM) :
                                      look just send me my money and i wont ever do business with you guys again if you dont want me to
                                      JAKE (12:17 PM) :
                                      its very simple to understand.
                                      MR-CASH - nomisj104 (12:18 PM) :
                                      This is out of my hands, I am waiting for an answer
                                      JAKE (12:18 PM) :
                                      ok can you give me a phone number that I can reach someone from your company at
                                      JAKE (12:38 PM) :
                                      sow hat is going on
                                      JAKE (12:55 PM) :
                                      its been 45 minutes since your last reply... can you please talk to me
                                      MR-CASH - nomisj104 (01:01 PM) :
                                      We are looking up your acct. and it is still pointing to you being fraud
                                      JAKE (01:02 PM) :
                                      how is it fraud
                                      JAKE (01:02 PM) :
                                      you are offering FREE PORN
                                      JAKE (01:02 PM) :
                                      obviosuly some people are going to join with 2 email addresses
                                      JAKE (01:02 PM) :
                                      sometimes
                                      JAKE (01:02 PM) :
                                      i was getting over what 200 signups a day on my best days...
                                      JAKE (01:03 PM) :
                                      quit making excuses and pay me my money... and its over... you never have to pay me again since I wouldnt even want to be in business with you.
                                      JAKE (01:04 PM) :
                                      ill even go on GFY and post that it was a big misunderstanding.
                                      JAKE (01:21 PM) :
                                      and...
                                      JAKE (01:26 PM) :
                                      weve been talkin for almost 1.5 hours and you wrote me 4 or 5 messages
                                      JAKE (01:40 PM) :
                                      can you just tell me a fucken YES or a NO... i dont have all day to sit here and wait for you to reply to me every 45 minutes... tell me right now if you will pay me. If yes then good and i will leave you alone... If no, then I will move on to my next step in my quest for my money.

                                      DONT DEAL WITH THIS CROOKED COMPANY.

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                                      • Oracle Porn
                                        Affiliate
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 24433

                                        #20
                                        lol...can anybody post a nice own3d pic?


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                                        • bigdog
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 6964

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by nomisj104
                                          The fact of the matter is you cheated our system and you will not be paid. It really is a shame that it has come to this but so be it if I have to prove that we have not wronged any webmasters. I have legit proof that you have cheated us. How is that you got more single-opt in signups then douple opt-ins plus you have absoluty no exit traffic which is impossible not to mention that 1/3 of your sales are coming from duplicate ip adresses. And to top that majority of the email adresses coming from your traffic were bogus. I even asked where you were promoting us and to send a link so that I could take a look but you acted like you did not understand anything I was saying. Now you have been paid until we saw that you were cheating. I already disclosed this info to you in private and need be I can post our conversation if anybody would like to see. Mr-Cash has been around since 1996 and we pride ourselves on paying everyone on time as long as they are legit which you are not. I also suggest that if anyone who reads this should consider sending your traffic else where.
                                          tracking a affilates exit traffic good idea to catch cheaters

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                                          • Polak
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2003
                                            • 620

                                            #22
                                            show me some proof.... this fucker said the same thing to other webmasters that never got paid....exact same fucken reason... he probably doesnt even have proof.... hes gonna try and write some bullshit up....

                                            and OWNED? not really mr-shit is only like 20% of my revenues monthly... its just a slowdown...

                                            I just dont like to get punked around by a bunch of conmen commies.


                                            And I assure you I will get this money.

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                                            • TheSenator
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 13330

                                              #23
                                              I have sued and settled out of court 2 times already with sponsors who don't pay(circa 1999).

                                              Be kind and polite....one thing you cannot do is post of GFY...it just looks really bad when you have to file all your court papers.

                                              Another tip is to get thousand and thousand of paper file so that the attorney on the other side charges the client upfront for all the paper work and hassel.

                                              Go to your county court house and file the lawsuit. Don't go out of state or out of your county.

                                              Usually, when the sponsor get served with papers at his home during Sunday dinner, he shits his pants, gets embarrassed, gets angry and can do nothing but stress out all night long until he tries calling you in the morning.

                                              Whatever you do...do not talk, email, IM until his lawyer calls your lawyer for a quick settlement....
                                              ISeekGirls.com since 2005

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                                              • Polak
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jan 2003
                                                • 620

                                                #24
                                                will do... i was already thinking of filing a lawsuit last night... i will get on it tomorrow.

                                                but i will keep posting on GFY and other adult forums cause i think the word needs to get out and most people that get scammed go out in silence...

                                                i have greedy sponsors that just fucken their good webmasters over. serisouly, if he paid me and asked me or even told me to not send traffic anymore. I would totally understand.

                                                But what pisses me off the MOST is that he kept telling me that i will get paid ... for like 2 months... and after i earned a nice $3000 he told me hes not gonna pay me.

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                                                • TheSenator
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                  • 13330

                                                  #25
                                                  If it goes beyond all that bullshit....during the discovery part of the lawsuit he will have to reveal everything in his books.

                                                  and keep on sending more paper work to his attorney and adding charges to the lawsuit.
                                                  ISeekGirls.com since 2005

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                                                  • nomisj104
                                                    Registered User
                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                    • 22

                                                    #26
                                                    Any webmaster that wants to see this cheaters info., email me directly at [email protected] and I will give you proof that he is a no good cheater.

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                                                    • TheSenator
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                      • 13330

                                                      #27
                                                      The only bad part about posting stuff all over the place is that he can counter sue for liability to damage his business.
                                                      ISeekGirls.com since 2005

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                                                      • stevecore
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • May 2003
                                                        • 6130

                                                        #28
                                                        Polak...hmmm... is this guy from Poland/Russia?? If so I would definitely say there's been fraud.

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                                                        • bigdog
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 6964

                                                          #29
                                                          if the sponsor is a a offshore cooperation i think it would be harder to sue em

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                                                          • Polak
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                            • 620

                                                            #30
                                                            no im from canada.

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                                                            • nomisj104
                                                              Registered User
                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                              • 22

                                                              #31
                                                              You want proof then this is what I can post at this time.

                                                              197 occurances of duplicate IPs
                                                              3564 Duplicate IPs Total
                                                              99% of $2 Sales are Duped
                                                              Only 252 Exit Impressions out of 3464 Hits (impressions not clicks)


                                                              Total duplicate ips equal 3564, taking these IP addresses and doing a Unique
                                                              count on this list gives me a total of only 197 distinct and unique IP addresses
                                                              many of the unique IPs also fall within the same class C. If this does not make sense, I can explain more clery if I need to.

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                                                              • stevecore
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • May 2003
                                                                • 6130

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Polak
                                                                no im from canada.
                                                                i've known russians to live in canada... new york...florida...

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                                                                • GeXus
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                  • 3320

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Mrcash owes me about 2 grand.. this is from over two months ago..

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                                                                  • Dildozer
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                    • 7519

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by nomisj104
                                                                    You want proof then this is what I can post at this time.

                                                                    197 occurances of duplicate IPs
                                                                    3564 Duplicate IPs Total
                                                                    99% of $2 Sales are Duped
                                                                    Only 252 Exit Impressions out of 3464 Hits (impressions not clicks)


                                                                    Total duplicate ips equal 3564, taking these IP addresses and doing a Unique
                                                                    count on this list gives me a total of only 197 distinct and unique IP addresses
                                                                    many of the unique IPs also fall within the same class C. If this does not make sense, I can explain more clery if I need to.
                                                                    pffft you could just be making that shit up
                                                                    Spam link here

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                                                                    • TheSenator
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                      • 13330

                                                                      #35
                                                                      In court he would have to reveal the method of how he obtained those numbers....which could take months and lots of cash.
                                                                      ISeekGirls.com since 2005

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                                                                      • GeXus
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                        • 3320

                                                                        #36
                                                                        As it seems alot of people have been scammed by Mr-Cash.com

                                                                        Is anyone interested in doing a class action suit against them?


                                                                        Contact me on ICQ if anyone would like to discuss it.. or discuss a possible action to take.
                                                                        Last edited by GeXus; 09-11-2003, 02:41 PM.

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                                                                        • danarchy
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                          • 133

                                                                          #37
                                                                          I can I finally say it, FUCK YOU DARRELL!!!!! First off that felt fucking sooooooo good, I would just like to say to you Darrell, you are the laughing stock of the office, noone likes you, every single person that works there asides from Dave and Beth have bashed you behind you crippled crooked back. YOU ARE A FUCKING BILL LUMBERG!!!!!! Everyone can only wish for five minutes alone with your hypocondriac ASS to beat you to an even sorrier state than your already in!!!!!!!! Oh whats that Darrell you're not feeling good, oh you have to get some tests, oh thats too bad that your head is so far up your ass that you are getting the wrong tests done, you need to see a shrink not a doctor you fucking dillussional fuck! Or maybe a drug test! You fucking jibhead crystal meth addict. No wonder you dont weigh 250 lbs anymore you jibbed yourself thin. Oh yeah and do everyone within a kilometre radius of you a favour and please never laugh again. Your laugh sounds like a thousand dying crack babies screaming in unison!!!!!You fucking spaz, I feel so bad for Beth having to see your withering carcass every night too bad shes so high on weed she'll never know. I hope your little world crumbles around you and I know it will, I want you to think and wonder, always and forever, shit did Dan do this to me? fuck you Darrell

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                                                                          • GeXus
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • May 2003
                                                                            • 3320

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by danarchy
                                                                            I can I finally say it, FUCK YOU DARRELL!!!!! First off that felt fucking sooooooo good, I would just like to say to you Darrell, you are the laughing stock of the office, noone likes you, every single person that works there asides from Dave and Beth have bashed you behind you crippled crooked back. YOU ARE A FUCKING BILL LUMBERG!!!!!! Everyone can only wish for five minutes alone with your hypocondriac ASS to beat you to an even sorrier state than your already in!!!!!!!! Oh whats that Darrell you're not feeling good, oh you have to get some tests, oh thats too bad that your head is so far up your ass that you are getting the wrong tests done, you need to see a shrink not a doctor you fucking dillussional fuck! Or maybe a drug test! You fucking jibhead crystal meth addict. No wonder you dont weigh 250 lbs anymore you jibbed yourself thin. Oh yeah and do everyone within a kilometre radius of you a favour and please never laugh again. Your laugh sounds like a thousand dying crack babies screaming in unison!!!!!You fucking spaz, I feel so bad for Beth having to see your withering carcass every night too bad shes so high on weed she'll never know. I hope your little world crumbles around you and I know it will, I want you to think and wonder, always and forever, shit did Dan do this to me? fuck you Darrell
                                                                            Go away fag, no one cares

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                                                                            • Trent Edison
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                              • 6132

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by stevecore
                                                                              Polak...hmmm... is this guy from Poland/Russia?? If so I would definitely say there's been fraud.


                                                                              FUCK YOU MAN!

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                                                                              • jimmyf
                                                                                OU812
                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                • 12651

                                                                                #40
                                                                                TheSenator, has some good advice
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