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  • WiredGuy
    Pounding Googlebot
    • Aug 2002
    • 34512
    #51
    Originally posted by Rick Latona
    I don't think it is killing the industry. P2P file sharing is a bigger threat. People go to TGPs to watch commercials. If they want more they have to buy. What's wrong with that?
    Very well said.
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      • Pornwolf
        Drunk and Unruly
        • Jan 2002
        • 22712
        #52
        Originally posted by SleazyDream
        if you don't know then you don't have a clue and shouldn't even be in the game.
        I'm asking you Wimpy.
        I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

        Webair, bitches.

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          • dirtysouth
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2003
            • 2613
            #53
            Originally posted by SleazyDream
            do you have any idea what my return is?

            NO


            thus, you're an idiot.
            Again, I like you and think you're in a great spot! Hell, you could change the industry!

            Clall me what you will.
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              • SleazyDream
                I'm here for SPORT
                • Jul 2001
                • 41470
                #54
                Originally posted by KRL
                Is it increasing revenues for them?

                I'm a big believer that the next wave is going to be all about micro payments for porn. Where you click a thumb and a ridiculously small amount would be charged to your account. Pennies add up when you are dealing with tens of millions of people like the porn biz does.
                actually explaining it like that may in fact be a decent business model for a few years down the road - it'll be mostly for movies though
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                  • quiet
                    we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                    • Sep 2001
                    • 25115
                    #55
                    Originally posted by Pornwolf
                    Although, ratios would be incredible with no free porn out there. I don't think anyone could argue that.
                    yeah, but the same could be said of say, every single person on earth being given internet access and a valid credit card. not.... going.... to.... happen.
                    we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                      • matty
                        Mining for Porn!
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 1328
                        #56
                        Originally posted by SleazyDream
                        can i have some extra ketchup for my fries please?
                        Ketchup being the compliment?
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                          • SleazyDream
                            I'm here for SPORT
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 41470
                            #57
                            Originally posted by Pornwolf
                            2 years ago this TGP killing the business argument was a good one. Now, with broadband surfers making up such a large part of the signups, TGP's are as Rick said 'Just a commercial.' Picture galleries are no more than big ads now.

                            As long as no one regularly starts posting videos longer than 20 seconds we will be ok. Anyone that does that should be shot. I know a lot of big MGP owners that won't allow large movies to be added to their pool. Hopefully everyone else is on the same page with this.


                            Although, ratios would be incredible with no free porn out there. I don't think anyone could argue that.
                            idiot.

                            a 30 to 60 second teaser clip done right isn't a problem. watch the sat porn preview channel -they have 30 second to 1 min previews on there, full hardcore - of the movies for sale.
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                            Now read without the word dog.

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                              • Illicit
                                wtf ?
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 11895
                                #58
                                There are still tons of surfers who dont know about p2p file sharing, and just dont realize how easy it is to get free porn. Im talking about the older dudes who arent very computer literate. These guys are probably where the majority of sales come from. If you get enough people to your site, a percentage will be from that group, and you will make money. What is going to be interesting is what happens when this supply dries out and a new generation of computer literate surfers replaces them. Things will have to change. Not soon, but eventually.
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                                  • juicylinks
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Apr 2001
                                    • 122992
                                    #59
                                    it funny people are always kncoking tgp's but then again the next day they are looking for tips on how to start there own or where they can buy top spots...

                                    Bahhhhhhhhhhh ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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                                      • Jimmer
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                                        • Mar 2002
                                        • 878
                                        #60
                                        To much free sponsor content and the large amount of cheap high quality content is to blame also.
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                                          • Pornwolf
                                            Drunk and Unruly
                                            • Jan 2002
                                            • 22712
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                            idiot.

                                            a 30 to 60 second teaser clip done right isn't a problem. watch the sat porn preview channel -they have 30 second to 1 min previews on there, full hardcore - of the movies for sale.
                                            Are you really dumb enough to unecessarily encourage the use of longer and longer movie clips for galleries?

                                            Are you, really?

                                            If so I have given you too much credit up to this point.
                                            I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                            Webair, bitches.

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                                              • SleazyDream
                                                I'm here for SPORT
                                                • Jul 2001
                                                • 41470
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by dirtysouth
                                                Again, I like you and think you're in a great spot! Hell, you could change the industry!

                                                Clall me what you will.
                                                i have no desire to change anyone else, i go my own way. whenever i follow the crowd i loose money so i've stopped doing that
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                                                  • SleazyDream
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                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                    • 41470
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by juicylinks
                                                    it funny people are always kncoking tgp's but then again the next day they are looking for tips on how to start there own or where they can buy top spots...

                                                    Bahhhhhhhhhhh ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
                                                    This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                    Now read without the word dog.

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                                                      • SleazyDream
                                                        I'm here for SPORT
                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                        • 41470
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by Jimmer
                                                        To much free sponsor content and the large amount of cheap high quality content is to blame also.
                                                        i think the doctor may have spanked your head and not your ass when you were born
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                                                          • studio
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                            • 1095
                                                            #65
                                                            OK, I'll Bite...

                                                            If TGP's are not the source of so much free porn, causing surfers to have less of a need to buy a membership. I would love to here an inteligent responce to why it's not. If sales are not on the decline, then the only thing I could say... is that the industry is becoming controled by the big TGP's and the sales are going to the paysites that get listed on these big popular site?

                                                            It is refreshing though to see a thread here that has some meat to it though, instead of all the childs play...

                                                            Denny

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                                                              • SleazyDream
                                                                I'm here for SPORT
                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                • 41470
                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                                                Are you really dumb enough to unecessarily encourage the use of longer and longer movie clips for galleries?

                                                                Are you, really?

                                                                If so I have given you too much credit up to this point.
                                                                yes - i am.
                                                                but don't be stupid about it.
                                                                watch a porno preview channel on TV- they ALL have 1 min clips. but they don't give all the sex away- they show flashes of different scenes - a preview of what you get but not enough time on any one scene to get into it, but enough so that you KNOW what you are buying. and lots of the cloths on parts too, they give TONS of that away - as a teaser.

                                                                don't get caught up in the 10 second is all idea - you'll fall behind and won't ever catch up.


                                                                do i get any credit back for that answer???
                                                                Last edited by SleazyDream; 04-25-2004, 06:05 PM.
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                                                                Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                  • <IMX>
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                                                                    • Jun 2002
                                                                    • 2728
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Basically what brujah said. I think he has the issue down cold.
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                                                                      • SleazyDream
                                                                        I'm here for SPORT
                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                        • 41470
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by studio
                                                                        OK, I'll Bite...

                                                                        If TGP's are not the source of so much free porn, causing surfers to have less of a need to buy a membership. I would love to here an inteligent responce to why it's not. If sales are not on the decline, then the only thing I could say... is that the industry is becoming controled by the big TGP's and the sales are going to the paysites that get listed on these big popular site?

                                                                        It is refreshing though to see a thread here that has some meat to it though, instead of all the childs play...

                                                                        Denny
                                                                        the free porn industry is consolitating into fewer people, that's a fact
                                                                        This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                        Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                          • BigFrog
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                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                            • 2057
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by studio
                                                                            OK, I'll Bite...

                                                                            If TGP's are not the source of so much free porn, causing surfers to have less of a need to buy a membership. I would love to here an inteligent responce to why it's not.

                                                                            I cant get off on a couple of pictures or some teaser trailers....and I feel bad for anyone that can. Free porn isnt a bad thing, and tgp's are cool in my book.

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                                                                              • CDSmith
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                • 51460
                                                                                #70
                                                                                TGP's aren't killing the industry.


                                                                                Free porn (aka: advertising samples) is not killing the industry.


                                                                                In fact, nothing is "killing" the industry. The porn industry will always be around.

                                                                                Nothing can kill it. Wankers will always wank.

                                                                                (and whiners will always find something to whine about)
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                                                                                  • Dildozer
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                                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                                    • 7519
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    TGP itself wasn't a bad concept until everyone started one. The nature of the TGP concept is self destructive since webmasters will do anything to attract the surfer, which usually translates into more free porn.

                                                                                    Add to that the traffic skimming and trading, making the trafic virtually worthless on most TGPs (people buying chinese and ethiopian and buttfucknowhere traffic with the intention of trading don't help)

                                                                                    Compare conversions 2 years ago to today's. I don't fear P2P networks as bad, face it Kazaa doesn't appear #1 under the "free porn" keyword on search engines.

                                                                                    It's SOOOOOOO fuckin easy for the surfer to get free porn nowadays.
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                                                                                      • Pornwolf
                                                                                        Drunk and Unruly
                                                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                                                        • 22712
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                        yes - i am.
                                                                                        but don't be stupid about it.
                                                                                        watch a porno preview channel on TV- they ALL have 1 min clips. but they don't give all the sex away- they show flashes of different scenes - a preview of what you get but not enough time on any one scene to get into it, but enough so that you KNOW what you are buying. and lots of the cloths on parts too, they give TONS of that away - as a teaser.

                                                                                        don't get caught up in the 10 second is all idea - you'll fall behind and won't ever catch up.


                                                                                        do i get any credit back for that answer???
                                                                                        Yes you do. Unfortunately you are assuming that, if we get into the habit of using the longer clip model, most submitters can be trusted to make true preview clips like the video people do instead of making clips as hardore as possible to one up the next submitter and get listed.

                                                                                        Remember, those channels are run by the studios so they are controlled to some degree and focused on maximizing sales.

                                                                                        In the hands of the webmasters long clips can and will go too far. The free site landscape is still the wild west.
                                                                                        I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                                                                        Webair, bitches.

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                                                                                          • SleazyDream
                                                                                            I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                            • 41470
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                                                                            Yes you do. Unfortunately you are assuming that, if we get into the habit of using the longer clip model, most submitters can be trusted to make true preview clips like the video people do instead of making clips as hardore as possible to one up the next submitter and get listed.

                                                                                            Remember, those channels are run by the studios so they are controlled to some degree and focused on maximizing sales.

                                                                                            In the hands of the webmasters long clips can and will go too far. The free site landscape is still the wild west.
                                                                                            ahh but bandwidth on movies is killer - without profit they won't last.
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                                                                                            Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                              • CDSmith
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                • 51460
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by studio
                                                                                                OK, I'll Bite...

                                                                                                If TGP's are not the source of so much free porn, causing surfers to have less of a need to buy a membership. I would love to here an inteligent responce to why it's not. If sales are not on the decline, then the only thing I could say... is that the industry is becoming controled by the big TGP's and the sales are going to the paysites that get listed on these big popular site?

                                                                                                It is refreshing though to see a thread here that has some meat to it though, instead of all the childs play...

                                                                                                Denny
                                                                                                The free porn doesn't come from TGP's at all. It comes from pay sites and porn production/content companies, and is sumitted by webmasters in order to..... you guessed it.... sell memberships. The TGP is only the vehicle by which the free sample porn is shown to the surfer.

                                                                                                TGP=vehicle
                                                                                                Paysites & Content providers=source of free porn


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                                                                                                  • chowda
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                                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                                    • 9527
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    its just a matter of time before someone opens a mgp that will ofer 5-10minute promo videos just to get bookmarks and what not.

                                                                                                    like what rick said, tgps are commercials. i believe commercials will be longer.
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                                                                                                      • SleazyDream
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                                                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                                                        • 41470
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by chowda
                                                                                                        its just a matter of time before someone opens a mgp that will ofer 5-10minute promo videos just to get bookmarks and what not.

                                                                                                        like what rick said, tgps are commercials. i believe commercials will be longer.
                                                                                                        rick is a SMART man
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                                                                                                          • psyko514
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                                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                                            • 22366
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            I don't think it's killing the industry. TGPs have put millions of dollars in the pockets of not only TGP owners, but also gallery submitters, designers, scripters, etc.

                                                                                                            We're talking hundreds if not thousands of jobs from the TGP industry.

                                                                                                            It would be pretty cool if all the TGP owners changed to TGP2 though.

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                                                                                                              • chowda
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                                                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                • 9527
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                                rick is a SMART man
                                                                                                                no doubt.
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                                                                                                                  • SleazyDream
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                                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                    • 41470
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by psyko514
                                                                                                                    I don't think it's killing the industry. TGPs have put millions of dollars in the pockets of not only TGP owners, but also gallery submitters, designers, scripters, etc.

                                                                                                                    We're talking hundreds if not thousands of jobs from the TGP industry.

                                                                                                                    It would be pretty cool if all the TGP owners changed to TGP2 though.
                                                                                                                    hundreds? lol - thousands lol

                                                                                                                    try 10's of thousands
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                                                                                                                    Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                                                      • BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                        • 19634
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                                        odd, my ratios over the years have been improving....
                                                                                                                        of course tgps are great for the tgp owner. have the ratio's of your gallery posters been improving? personally i was never happy with the ratios i got from galleries. maybe i just didn't take the time to hone them right but 1:500-1000 isn't really worth the time.
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                                                                                                                          • GTS Mark
                                                                                                                            Vrume Mark
                                                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                            • 20912
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            I don't think the industry is dying, I do however see it sorting itself out. The small webmaster is getting pushed out and the companies that refuse to adapt to changes in the industry will be eaten alive.

                                                                                                                            In my opinion, If you keep ahead of the trends in the industry and can adapt quickly you will be very profitable.

                                                                                                                            DH

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                                                                                                                              • SleazyDream
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                                                                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                • 41470
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                                of course tgps are great for the tgp owner. have the ratio's of your gallery posters been improving? personally i was never happy with the ratios i got from galleries. maybe i just didn't take the time to hone them right but 1:500-1000 isn't really worth the time.
                                                                                                                                don't take posters - but i'm selling more galleries than ever - what does that tell you?
                                                                                                                                This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                                                                                Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                                                                  • dready
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                                                                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                    • 5247
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    TGP is what gets people horny for more.
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                                                                                                                                      • cosis
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                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2001
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                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        if you blame TGP's because you can't sell memberships then your probably a moron anyway

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                                                                                                                                          • ztik
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                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                            • 5196
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                                            I've said this a few times before and don't know if any of the big TGP players have tried this, but I'd bet you'd double your revenues if you'd just let them see only the thumbs and make them pay to see the enlarged pics using a micropayment system.
                                                                                                                                            I don't do TGP anymore but I had the idea the other day to charge like $5+/- a month for your TGP archives. I wonder how many surfers would signup for that. I'm guessing daily returning visitors would be all over it?

                                                                                                                                            Ever thought of trying anything like that sleazy? I'm sure alot of your surfers would love to have access to archives from the previous months / years.
                                                                                                                                            .

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                                                                                                                                              • SykkBoy2
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                                                                                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                • 19969
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by beemk
                                                                                                                                                tgps are helping the industry if anything. its like saying the people at costco that hand out free sample cups of food are killing the sales because people eat the samples and dont want to buy food.
                                                                                                                                                yeah, but they hand out SAMPLES, some of these bonehead submitters are handing out buckets....
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                                                                                                                                                  • SleazyDream
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                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
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                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by cosis
                                                                                                                                                    if you blame TGP's because you can't sell memberships then your probably a moron anyway
                                                                                                                                                    word
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                                                                                                                                                    Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                                                                                      • psyko514
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                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                                                                        hundreds? lol - thousands lol

                                                                                                                                                        try 10's of thousands
                                                                                                                                                        10s of thousands of people making a living from TGPs? i'd be surprised.

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                                                                                                                                                          • demented
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                                                                                                                                                            • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            It isn't the TGP's fault. TGP's pay my bills and feed my children.

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                                                                                                                                                              • Theo
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                                                                                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                • 34515
                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by psyko514
                                                                                                                                                                10s of thousands of people making a living from TGPs? i'd be surprised.

                                                                                                                                                                you sir is an .........

                                                                                                                                                                you know what im saying


                                                                                                                                                                some good points in this thread, but i dont agree that today's galleries are like commercials. Far from truth.

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                                                                                                                                                                  • LadyMischief
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                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                                                                                                                    you sir is an .........

                                                                                                                                                                    you know what im saying


                                                                                                                                                                    some good points in this thread, but i dont agree that today's galleries are like commercials. Far from truth.
                                                                                                                                                                    They are sort of like newspaper ads, actually. The whole concept of selling via gallery is similar to print sales.

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                                                                                                                                                                      • jigg
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Feb 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                                                                                        ok, here's a post for the has beens and wanabees that think they know everything.

                                                                                                                                                                        why do you think TGP is killing the industry?


                                                                                                                                                                        I'll comment on the intelligence of your remarks.
                                                                                                                                                                        too much for free makes the surfer pay less.

                                                                                                                                                                        i surf porn too.
                                                                                                                                                                        the last time I paid for a membership was in 2002 for a badpuppy password.
                                                                                                                                                                        i don't have to pay $39.95 to see ounique's content from 1999 and a bunch of plugins to get off.
                                                                                                                                                                        plenty of free porn on yahoo, msn, and the TGPs to get off on.

                                                                                                                                                                        surfing TGP's is easy, copy/paste the URL code and delete the first part, leave the 2nd with the real URL so no forwarding get straight to the gallery.
                                                                                                                                                                        With sites like gigagalleries.com who needs a paysite.

                                                                                                                                                                        everyone and their mother has a TGP or is making TGP galleries.
                                                                                                                                                                        I doubt many webmasters have seen things thru the surfer side.
                                                                                                                                                                        ......
                                                                                                                                                                        eight,eight,two,eight,eight,four,two
                                                                                                                                                                        ......

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                                                                                                                                                                          • Theo
                                                                                                                                                                            HAL 9000
                                                                                                                                                                            • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                            • 34515
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            yes LM,that's what they are supposed to be, but in reality it's not that simple anymore. A gallery made to sell won't get listed for free that easy and it's possible to get declined in some paid spots as well. This is the feedback I get.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • kush
                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                • 3382
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                                                                                                ok, here's a post for the has beens and wanabees that think they know everything.

                                                                                                                                                                                why do you think TGP is killing the industry?


                                                                                                                                                                                I'll comment on the intelligence of your remarks.
                                                                                                                                                                                Why do you make these "post here and I'll give you my opinion of you" type threads?

                                                                                                                                                                                What's the purpose?

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Rick Latona
                                                                                                                                                                                    The Best Ideas Start Here
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 6037
                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                                                                                                                                                                    Who do you consider first and second?
                                                                                                                                                                                    That's simple, Exits and cross sales. Regardless of what you think of them and how many of them get blocked, they are still the only traffic sources that are the end result of:

                                                                                                                                                                                    TGPs
                                                                                                                                                                                    Mailers
                                                                                                                                                                                    Adware
                                                                                                                                                                                    Banners
                                                                                                                                                                                    Text Links
                                                                                                                                                                                    name it
                                                                                                                                                                                    Regards,

                                                                                                                                                                                    Rick Latona
                                                                                                                                                                                    http://latonas.com

                                                                                                                                                                                    Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties
                                                                                                                                                                                    Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Alex From San Diego
                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 1642
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        TGP's aren't killing the industry. Paysites are killing the industry with their flashy tours and misleading statements only to find out the members area is just pure shit.
                                                                                                                                                                                        We are what we repeatedly do.-Aristotle

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • LadyMischief
                                                                                                                                                                                            Orgasms N Such!
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 18135
                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                                                                                                                                            yes LM,that's what they are supposed to be, but in reality it's not that simple anymore. A gallery made to sell won't get listed for free that easy and it's possible to get declined in some paid spots as well. This is the feedback I get.
                                                                                                                                                                                            Running a print ad isn't free either. That only makes sense.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Rick Latona
                                                                                                                                                                                                The Best Ideas Start Here
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 6037
                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                Chowda,

                                                                                                                                                                                                We run a few commercials a day. If you want to watch the funny videos you have to get past these:

                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.consumptionjunction.com/c...1&Page=1&fav=0

                                                                                                                                                                                                Sleezy,

                                                                                                                                                                                                It isn't kind of a TGP.
                                                                                                                                                                                                Regards,

                                                                                                                                                                                                Rick Latona
                                                                                                                                                                                                http://latonas.com

                                                                                                                                                                                                Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties
                                                                                                                                                                                                Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Rick Latona
                                                                                                                                                                                                    The Best Ideas Start Here
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 6037
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
                                                                                                                                                                                                    TGP's aren't killing the industry. Paysites are killing the industry with their flashy tours and misleading statements only to find out the members area is just pure shit.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Drop me an email and I'll give you the keys to our member's area so you know you won't be promoting a piece of shit.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Regards,

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Rick Latona
                                                                                                                                                                                                    http://latonas.com

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • SleazyDream
                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 41470
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Rick Latona


                                                                                                                                                                                                        Sleezy,

                                                                                                                                                                                                        It isn't kind of a TGP.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        ohh, i disagree. but we can have a fist fight over that in atlanta.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Now read without the word dog.

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