Bandwidth..Hype or Pipe???

Likewhoa should sit down and go fuck themselves! 5 gigabits of bandwidth my a$$. They aren't even multihomed, no active bgp sessions. they have 1 gigE link to Level3, COLO'd, level3 doesn't fuckin sublease, and if they did why the hell would you sublease space from a soon to be defunct company in one of NY's biggest telco buildings(111 8th Ave) when theres 20 other carrier neutral providers (meet-me-rooms) to choose from. Pretty sad that they have to lie to try to drum up business.

From there web site:
"Like Whoa Hosting was designed by professional engineers from Foundry Networks and Level 3 Communications. We are powered by redundant Foundry Networks and Cisco switches from ground and up."

Redundant my a$$, they have (1) Foundry NetIron Layer3 Switch(not even a router)at the border of Level3 with 1 gigE uplink and 1 /24 IP address space (if they even know what that is). Pathetic! Redundant switches requires OSPF/HSRP(or equivelant) none of that is running.


Also, these "professional engineers" they have over there should learn how to run a DNS server. Leavin it wide open! $tupid$tupid$tupid:

likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.6
noc.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.243
CTAC.likewhoa.com has address 216.66.64.197
hosting.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.6
workstation.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.250
bb.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.60
cisco01.05.2.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.4
vh1.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.110
cisco1.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.2
vh2.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.165
cisco.ph.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.9
mail.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.20
vids.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.76
blunted.out.in.a4.likewhoa.com has address 216.66.64.200
cgi.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.60
clubjenna.likewhoa.com has address 64.157.131.70
your.mom.said.likewhoa.com has address 216.66.64.210
cowboysurfer.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.130
board.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.20
cp.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.165
cisco.sc.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.8
content.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.60
box.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.6
ns1.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.7
foundry2.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.3
s55.likewhoa.com has address 216.66.64.201
ns2.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.6
foundry3.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.3
edge.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.200
stats.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.60
braincellz.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.194
xplaces2.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.79
cash.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.60
netsaint.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.60
paul.likewhoa.com has address 216.66.64.195
stuff.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.10
ecstasy.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.60
shurik.likewhoa.com has address 216.66.64.198
exodus.likewhoa.com has address 209.67.40.171
gw-likewhoa.likewhoa.com has address 216.66.64.193
audi.likewhoa.com has address 216.66.64.194
gw1-gigabit.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.17.50
gleb.likewhoa.com has address 216.66.64.199
hsphere.likewhoa.com name server ns1.hsphere.likewhoa.com
ns1.hsphere.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.7
hsphere.likewhoa.com name server ns2.hsphere.likewhoa.com
ns2.hsphere.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.7.6
design.likewhoa.com has address 64.152.6.20


Weee that was a fun waste of time. Had to fit it all in because i'm not going to bother to reply to these guys b.s. responses!

Bye for now-

Damn! Elvis has left the fucking building!

Sweet bit of research there Dave.

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DaveOne,

Do me a favor HOT SHOT, send me an e-mail with your information and see how quickly you'll be C&D'd just like the other cool person who claimed he had correct information.

I can't even step down to your level, it hurts my reputation even thinking about it.

And how would YOU know this kind of information, if I prove you wrong , will you take it up the ass from an elephant?

;-)))))

DumbAss with research...

Why don't we go and ask people who visited the NOC what we are powered by...

Yeah we have NetIron's, one on every rack, as well as Cisco's of similar type.

You are too stupid to even be on my level, powering the largest site through a NetIron...

HAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAA

FUCKING DUMBASS

[This message has been edited by Tukhman (edited 08-11-2001).]

level3 doesn't fuckin sublease, and if they did why the hell would you sublease space from a soon to be defunct company in one of NY's biggest telco buildings(111 8th Ave) when theres 20 other carrier neutral providers (meet-me-rooms) to choose from. Pretty sad that they have to lie to try to drum up business
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Wrong Again!!!

85 10th Avenue fucker =)

what does C&D mean? hehe

haahaha you still only got 1 gig uplink to level3, and you guys were fuckin dumb enough to leave your SNMP communities open. $tupid $tupid $tupid.

You are SINGLY HOMED to level3, PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW YOU HAVE 5 GIGS OVER A LINK WITH NO ACTIVE BGP SESSION, NO ASN(AUTONOMOUS SYSTEM NUMBER). LET ME GUESS YOU GUYS HAVE 10GIG ETHERNET TO LEVEL3 ON YOUR NEW FOUNDRY NETIRON. haahah You guys are full of shit, so hey tukhman, go fuck yourself!

Peace from the east.
-DaveOne

can i be C&D?

Like Whoa Duude... looks like they hired a new security guy! ha-ha-ha like whoa i'm amazed!

%host -l likewhoa.com
Server failed: Query refused
%

"they have 1 gigE link to Level3, COLO'd, level3 doesn't fuckin sublease,"
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Tukhs right, you're wrong here DaveOne. L3 does indeed sublease. After all, we have the entire back side of their dc here in Phoenix.

Who says we dont have an AS number?

Output from ARIN WHOIS http://www.arin.net/whois

Like Whoa (ASN-LIKEWHOA)
1122 Coney Island Avenue Suite #213
Brooklyn, New York 11230
US

Autonomous System Name: LIKEWHOA
Autonomous System Number: 21790

The only real way for you to check on our BGP session would be either you are our neighboring router or if you employ BGP yourself. In this case you are neither.

We do not use a Foundry NetIron as that device has too little switching capacity and not enough fiber ports. The cross connects from our layer2 switches are Fiber to our Foundry BigIron router. We use 1Gigabit Fiber Ethernet multimode SX connections to our backbone providers not 10Gigabits.

We use load balancers to manage our traffic so just because likewhoa.com appears to be on 1 Cblock doesn't mean that's our entire network. We host quite a few clients and we definitely could not fit them all on 256 IP addresses.

As for leaving our SNMP communities open that's not really possible as they have Access Control List on them and only priveleged IP's are able to get replies. You wish you had access to our MRTG graphs =)

Also how is it possible for you to test our redundancy protocol. Things like HSRP/OSPF do not have to be publically advertised, so unless you have access to our router there is no way for you to know. And Foundry supports their own proprietary failover/redundancy protocol that we ARE employing.

[email protected]#sh ip bgp
Total number of BGP Routes: 102252
hmm... can you say WHOA!

Kimmy...Thank you for the professional input, it feels good to have people who know what they are talking about... =)

Sync, that should sum it up... good job mano =)

LOL Tukh, I've never felt the need to disparage the competition in order to feel good about our company

You guys have grown a ton this year with the hosting business and that's to be commended --

There are alot of good hosts out there (as well as a lot of shitty ones) and it's more than just price. Strangely enough I had one of our billing customers tell me yesterday that they couldn't get hold of their hosting support on the weekends... made no sense to me especially given the customer.

Kimmy,

Same way I see it... companies like Candid feel like they need to put competition down and fabicate information in order to show off the desperately low prices they have.

We indeed grew a lot this year, but grew not because we just offered lower prices, but because we worked on providing our clients with the best service possible. I remember when we started we had one tech on site, now it's totally different... support to customers is very vital to the success of a hosting company, or for that matter any company that is depended on their clients success.

I hope you are coming to NY in September or to see you in Miami/Vegas... and sign up for Sexcounter you might win a new car in january
=))

Damn...did someone piss on a fire in here?

LMAO

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the snmp communities have been closed for quite awhile, but anyway...

BGP routing table entry for 64.152.0.0/13, version 133015334
Paths: (8 available, best #6)
Not advertised to any peer
3356, (aggregated by 3356 209.244.2.241)
209.1.220.174 from 209.1.220.174 (209.1.220.174)
Origin IGP, localpref 1000, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate
3356, (aggregated by 3356 209.244.3.1)
209.1.220.66 from 209.1.220.66 (209.1.220.66)
Origin IGP, localpref 1000, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate
3356, (aggregated by 3356 209.244.2.186)
209.1.220.144 from 209.1.220.144 (209.1.220.144)
Origin IGP, localpref 1000, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate
3356, (aggregated by 3356 209.244.2.234)
209.1.40.63 from 209.1.40.63 (209.1.40.63)
Origin IGP, localpref 1000, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate
3356, (aggregated by 3356 209.244.2.74)
209.1.40.104 from 209.1.40.104 (209.1.40.104)
Origin IGP, localpref 1000, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate
3356, (aggregated by 3356 209.244.2.209)
209.1.40.51 from 209.1.40.51 (209.1.40.51)
Origin IGP, localpref 1000, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate, best
3356, (aggregated by 3356 209.244.2.209)
209.1.40.51 from 209.1.220.224 (209.1.40.51)
Origin IGP, localpref 1000, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate
Originator: 209.1.40.51, Cluster list: 0.0.16.125
3356, (aggregated by 3356 209.244.2.106)
209.1.40.79 from 209.1.40.79 (209.1.40.79)
Origin IGP, localpref 1000, valid, internal, atomic-aggregate

You guys aren't announcing any routes, You dont have to be on your router or a border router to see if any bgp routes are being announced.

Either way its all good... I haven't heard anything bad about likewhoa, i'm just saying you dont have 5 gigabits.

dont i get any thanks for pointing out insecurity?

Peace
-DaveOne

Getting dumber and dumber

I invite you to go ahead and call Verio, Level3, and AT&T tomorrow and ask them each what sort of connectivity we have from them.

Then add it up, see if you can count correctly.

The so-called "research" you provide is childish and only makes you look factual in front of people who barely understand what Internet is about.

Seems to me you have just learned the basics and already think you are a Guru.

You desperately want to see the MRTG graphs, I know, a lot of people do... but it's yet to be disclosed. Tell me how off-peak over a gigabit per second can be supported by a single gigabit line?

HAAHAHA... do me a favor, can you tell me how fast my connection from home is?
;-))))))

If you need a job in the unpaid marketing staff department, drop me an e-mail ;-)

[This message has been edited by Tukhman (edited 08-11-2001).]

it looks like this the longest thread of the week,
not bad for a guy with only 10 posts

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You have to do a little BGP homework. You are looking at aggregate routes so of course you are not going to see our individual routes in there. We are advertising all of our public /24's and /23's you just have to look harder. I am not going to disclose any further technical information as your claims are blatantly incorrect.

You guys must all have really big computers with all kinda rams n stuff up in there... I'm still tryin' to find the "any" key. And what's with this footpedal anyway?

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Where did you hear it from? When I worked in the computer retail, there were rumors that those lines came from actual customers. I worked for Circuit City Stores, Inc.



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hahah, no but i can tell your office is DSL from Lightning...


niggga whaa

If you guys have all these other links besides Level3, like AT&T for example...

For questions about this route-server, send email to: [email protected]

#################### route-server.ip.att.net ####################

route-server>
route-server>
route-server>traceroute www.likewhoa.com
Translating "www.likewhoa.com"...domain server (12.0.1.2) [OK]

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to ns2.likewhoa.com (64.152.7.6)

1 white_dwarf.cbbtier3.att.net (12.0.1.1) [AS 7018] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
2 12.124.182.17 [AS 7018] 0 msec 24 msec 0 msec
3 gbr1-a80s1.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.123.1.10) [AS 7018] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
4 gbr4-p00.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.122.5.242) [AS 7018] 0 msec 4 msec 4 msec
5 ggr1-p370.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.123.1.125) [AS 7018] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
6 pos1-1.core2.NewYork1.Level3.net (63.211.54.65) [AS 3356] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
7 gigabitethernet6-0.ipcolo2.NewYork1.Level3.net (209.244.12.46) [AS 3356] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
8 POS11-0.ipcolo4.NewYork1.Level3.net (209.244.12.74) [AS 3356] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
9 gw1-gigabit.likewhoa.com (64.152.2.134) [AS 3356] 8 msec 4 msec 4 msec
10 ns2.likewhoa.com (64.152.7.6) [AS 3356] 4 msec 4 msec 8 msec
route-server>


hmmm From AT&T , goes through level3... you're not announcing any routes.. its ALL level3... keep comin with the b.s. and i'll keep knockin it down all day.


You say you're announcing stuff? I am just a newbie?

You're not announcing A SINGLE ROUTE:
route-server>show ip bgp regex _21790_

route-server>

hey wow, nothing shows up! But i forgot, I dont know what i'm talking about! Your brilliant Foundry Engineers that helped you design your "state-of-the-art" network must have implemented some new technology the rest of us haven't learned yet.

The only possibility left is that you're not announcing routes and you're doing private bgp neighboring for outbound traffic only, but you've yet to prove that either.

-DaveOne

Oh, looks like you use optimum online in good old Marlboro

yippie

why on earth is this crap still going on...

whoa =]

Hey I sure hope your not referring to me???
My Hosting network is also at Level 3 I'am at the McLean Virginia facility and have our own gig pipe. I have nothing to do with Like Whooas network. But Like whooa is a killer Host, and they are some of the best people in the hosting business. Yes I'am good friends with them, thats because they are some great people, and offer a top notch service.


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[This message has been edited by Lightning (edited 08-12-2001).]

lol.. he dave was talking about DSL provider. probably meant http://www.lightning.net/

unless you are providing DSL now also hehe

While I'm not getting into this debate at all...

I do find it strange you claim to buy transit directly from verio and at&t, but don't have any direct routes through them.. (I have machines both off at&t's network, and verio's)

theres nothing wrong with buying from level3 solely.. they peer with all the providers FOR you.. that's the entire fucking point of level3.

Just wondering.

-Phil

Phil,

First off, I don't know where it was promoted that our network BGP's through Level3, AT&T, and Verio.

The fact that we have backup lines from these providers is totally a different fact.

Now, because DaveOne wants to jump the ship of our plans that's his problem... yes it's a fact that this week and close to end of this month we will have our whole network BGP'd through quiet few providers.

I guess he was to dumb to realize what I was saying by 5 gigabits... seems he has nothing to do with his time.

Lightning... Thanks a lot mano=)

Then I guess I read your earlier statement wrong, my apologies.

-Phil

Now that all you hosting gurus are here in one thread, I have a simple question. I'm thinking of getting a dedicated server at datapipe, here's their "infrastructure information" page, http://datapipe.com/infrastructure.htm

Good, bad, what do you think?

SO WHAT ABOUT MY 386 SX/16 CoLocation ?

can you host my sites also?

I can't believe this thread is still going.

probably not.

rumor has it that his 20MB drive is filled up and he is putting new accounts on a 5.25 floppy.

Dos 5.0 shell via fax isn't that great too.

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[This message has been edited by x3m (edited 08-13-2001).]

I can host you! We have Amiga500 with 220 MB HDD (thats megaBYTES, not megaBITS) and our 64kb line is directly connected without routers and all that crap! Our line is very fast, especially when we dont play quake.

I am sooo sick of sponsors or hosts that only reply to threads where they can spam.

Fuckin a.....

Stop the boastin' and go answer some emails or something..

yeah baby.... take stangsters words to the fuckin' bank.



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Thanks for this link. No they have nothing to do with me... I actually never even heard of them until now.. Thanks for the info.



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this is all about a dvd player now isnt it???

LoL! KK, you just crack me up ;-)

Lightning -

They've been around forever.. I actually semi-know the owner (he admins an EFnet IRC server.. a friend knows him fairly well). They actually are fairly large in the NYC area, and have some very decent peering. We almost hosted some machines with them, but our annoying-ass piece of shit partner lives in NYC and we didn't want him fucking things up.

-Phil

I could use an extra one for the computer room!


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$150/meg want some???

hahaha loster, somebody's got to!

let's all chant now, who wants a dvd, who wants a dvd...

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