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Just picked up a copy of Cleaner. Who else uses this?...

09-05-2003, 06:45 PM

What an AMAZING piece of software. I have adjusted the settings to my liking, taking in mpeg1, adjusting, outputting mpeg1, and I couldn't be happier with the result.

HOWEVER... it is painfully slow. 8 minutes of work per 1 minute of video.

Is this a problem with my PC or something? Is it SUPPOSED to be this slow?! There just aren't enough hours in the day to process 80 minutes of video. Could there be any way to speed up?
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09-05-2003, 06:47 PM

what are your pc specs?
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09-05-2003, 06:54 PM

I am using this on:

P4 1800
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and about 40GB of free space on the drive.

Low specs for video editing, but it doesn't grind to a halt. I think the slowness is more software related than hardware related. I'm still able to listen to mp3s, read gfy, check email with this this machine while it's encoding. It goes just as fast whether I leave it alone or do something else on the machine. But I will try it on a laptop with higher specs tomorrow, and see if it goes any faster.

In the meantime, could there be any settings within the software to adjust that will make this thing run faster?
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09-05-2003, 06:56 PM

up the ram to 1gig

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09-05-2003, 06:57 PM

Look in your "Windows Task Manager" and see how much resources that program is using while it's rendering.
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09-05-2003, 06:58 PM

256 RAM is the culprit bump it up to a gig or more
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09-05-2003, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by EscortBiz
up the ram to 1gig

yup...you need about a gig of ram for video editing

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09-05-2003, 08:17 PM

1G of ram will make a big difference. Cleaner runs just about all night every night in our studio crunching SoulCash hosted gallery clips and member videos into multiple formats at once.

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09-05-2003, 08:38 PM

Cleaner GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

More ram man...256 is silly stupid with the cost of ram these days.
Matter of fact running a system like that your just punching yourself in the cock by having 256 in it.

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09-06-2003, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by ldinternet
HOWEVER... it is painfully slow. 8 minutes of work per 1 minute of video.

Is this a problem with my PC or something? Is it SUPPOSED to be this slow?! There just aren't enough hours in the day to process 80 minutes of video. Could there be any way to speed up?

While having a good deal of memory is important in video editing, sometimes it doesn't matter how much mem you have, if the software you are using is designed for ultra compression.

Cleaner has always been a sloooow creature. But that is because it has about the highest compression rate and encoding design on the market. The smaller you want your file to be, the longer it will take to encode it.

Vegas (aka Vegas Video) puts out as good a quality encoding job as cleaner does at a fraction of the amount of time imo. When I saw how much faster Vegas was, I dropped Cleaner like a hot potato simply because of the time factor. If you're in no hurry, then cleaner is fine..but when you are on a time limit/budget, then cleaner ain't really the best choice for video editing.
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09-06-2003, 12:20 AM

cleaner kicks ass, and yes it is a beast in terms of slowness. i have a dual processor G4 that spends almost all of it's time encoding video...

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09-06-2003, 12:22 AM

I have a dell p4 3.06 with a gig a ram and cleaner is still fucking slow.

Vegas kicks its ass.. half time time and just as good.
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09-06-2003, 12:31 AM

Yep, get more RAM...and I think can also specify the thread priority in one of the menus. The default on focus I think is the highest, but when it's not focused it just normal. Set it to the highest possible and let it run.

 
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09-06-2003, 03:36 AM

Originally posted by SixNine
1G of ram will make a big difference. Cleaner runs just about all night every night in our studio crunching SoulCash hosted gallery clips and member videos into multiple formats at once.

If you ever want to shoot the shit about settings give me a holler our number is at the bottom of soulcash.com.

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09-06-2003, 07:50 AM

thanks for the feedback.
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09-06-2003, 08:07 AM

Good hard drives will make a big difference aswell.

The software can be super fast but you can only write to the drive as fast the drive can go.

Doesn't really affect encoding much but when you're cutting clips it will.
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09-06-2003, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by Muff
Good hard drives will make a big difference aswell.

The software can be super fast but you can only write to the drive as fast the drive can go.

Doesn't really affect encoding much but when you're cutting clips it will.

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09-06-2003, 08:52 AM

you should use a mac for this

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09-06-2003, 08:58 AM

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09-06-2003, 09:23 AM

RAM does not do much for video rendering....
Don't listen to them.
You need AT LEAST 1gig period.
What makes the difference is your processor. Go get yourself an old dual proc Netserver p3 500 ?600 and is will work 3 times as fast as a 3ghz single proc computers. (There is a reason that big rendering houses use MULTIPLE servers sporting multiple procs for their farms.)
Cleaner is slow. The new version is a bit faster. Pro coder is better.
Comparing Vegas video to cleaner is comparing apples to oranges.
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09-06-2003, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by Sassyass
RAM does not do much for video rendering....
Don't listen to them.
You need AT LEAST 1gig period.
What makes the difference is your processor. Go get yourself an old dual proc Netserver p3 500 ?600 and is will work 3 times as fast as a 3ghz single proc computers. (There is a reason that big rendering houses use MULTIPLE servers sporting multiple procs for their farms.)
Cleaner is slow. The new version is a bit faster. Pro coder is better.
Comparing Vegas video to cleaner is comparing apples to oranges.

well said.. try using a Dual 2600 AMD processor for your video encoding.

i know a number of Webmasters using such powerful machines to do some video editing.
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09-06-2003, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by Aza
you should use a mac for this

yes a mac what else would one use lol
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09-06-2003, 07:03 PM

I've had it working on a file for almost 11 hours, and with over 8 hours remaining... this is ultra slow, although I did opt for quality over speed.

Waiting patiently.

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09-06-2003, 07:11 PM

Originally posted by ldinternet
I've had it working on a file for almost 11 hours, and with over 8 hours remaining... this is ultra slow, although I did opt for quality over speed.

Waiting patiently.

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09-06-2003, 07:26 PM

I will check it out...
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09-07-2003, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by ldinternet
I will check it out...

just find out that software requires a dongle so you can't use it on two pc'sif you wanted to
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09-07-2003, 02:23 PM

You definitely need a beast of a machine and plenty of time on your hands and patience but its well worth it.

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09-07-2003, 03:51 PM

get a dual processor machine. if you're doing serious amounts of encoding, it's the only way to go.

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09-07-2003, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by quiet
get a dual processor machine. if you're doing serious amounts of encoding, it's the only way to go.

you mean he needs to get a dual mac setup hehe
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09-07-2003, 07:09 PM

Have cleaner 4, 5.1 and the newest version. Running on a dual AMD 2600 machine with a gig of ram encoding DV AVI to WMF Works at real time, Mpeg 1 takes 4 minutes per minute of video. Mpg2 to wmf 30 seconds per 1 minute of video or double time. All seem to be about the same speed for the most part. We don;t do a ton of encoding as we still are working out all the settings etc, Need to find a good book on how to take video from one format to the next while getting the best results/speed.

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09-07-2003, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by ldinternet
What an AMAZING piece of software. I have adjusted the settings to my liking, taking in mpeg1, adjusting, outputting mpeg1, and I couldn't be happier with the result.

HOWEVER... it is painfully slow. 8 minutes of work per 1 minute of video.

Is this a problem with my PC or something? Is it SUPPOSED to be this slow?! There just aren't enough hours in the day to process 80 minutes of video. Could there be any way to speed up?

I run Cleaner on a P4 2.8 with a gig of Ram. My 30 minute videos take 6.5 hours or so to encode to 3 different formats.

Just set the batch and go to bed.
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09-07-2003, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by quiet
get a dual processor machine. if you're doing serious amounts of encoding, it's the only way to go.

I dropped a dual proc PIII to go to this new machine. This one works better. This machine was specifically re-designed from the ground up for video editing though. 500 Gigs or hard drive space. WD Special Edition drives...bla bla bla....
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