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  • galleryseek
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    • Mar 2002
    • 8234

    #1

    weight lifters: dumbell press or bar? both?

    which do you guys prefer... i think they're generally the same in what they do so i usually do both... but i've always been able to do more than most people with dumbells, but my bar has been somewhat weak.
  • integrated
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    • Apr 2003
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    • KMR Stitch
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      • Jul 2003
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      #3
      Dumb Bell!

      Bench press is a joke..If one arm is weaker the other arm helps to push up..dosen't give correct control.

      When someone says they can bench press 150lbs ask them ok..

      Bench press 75lbs each hand dumb bells See if they can do it.

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      • Kimmykim
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        • Jun 2001
        • 16015

        #4
        Both.

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        • chowda
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          • Jun 2003
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          #5
          i push less weigh using dumbells. but i know the big guys putting on plates cant do what i do on dumbells.

          go for dumbells coz i said so
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          • galleryseek
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            • Mar 2002
            • 8234

            #6
            so lets hear some stats... ;)

            i'm 178 lbs, and today i put the most i ever put up w/ dumbells, got up to 110's (4th set) 6 reps...

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            • Pornwolf
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              • Jan 2002
              • 22712

              #7
              Dumbells. Dumbell shoulder presses are better because they hit the medial delts much better than full barbell shoulder presses. The truth is you are probably getting enough frontal delt work by intense incline benches so your best shoulder exercises would focus on your medial and anterior delts. Cable upright rows or upright rows using a cambered curl bar are more important for you than standard barbell presses.
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              • chowda
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                • Jun 2003
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                #8
                Originally posted by galleryseek
                so lets hear some stats... ;)

                i'm 178 lbs, and today i put the most i ever put up w/ dumbells, got up to 110's (4th set) 6 reps...
                each hand 110's? or 55's?
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                • galleryseek
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                  • Mar 2002
                  • 8234

                  #9
                  Originally posted by chowda


                  each hand 110's? or 55's?
                  hehe each hand 110's... i was running on pure adrenalin, got this beast to spot me and i had a good 2 minutes of rest before i tried it... i'm looking to gain mass, hopefully it'll work... haven't gained much weight but i've gained a lot of strength.

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                  • galleryseek
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                    • Mar 2002
                    • 8234

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pornwolf
                    Dumbells. Dumbell shoulder presses are better because they hit the medial delts much better than full barbell shoulder presses. The truth is you are probably getting enough frontal delt work by intense incline benches so your best shoulder exercises would focus on your medial and anterior delts. Cable upright rows or upright rows using a cambered curl bar are more important for you than standard barbell presses.
                    yeah im pretty strong w/ shoulder presses... i've gotten to 75's so far...

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                    • chowda
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                      • Jun 2003
                      • 9527

                      #11
                      Originally posted by galleryseek


                      hehe each hand 110's... i was running on pure adrenalin, got this beast to spot me and i had a good 2 minutes of rest before i tried it... i'm looking to gain mass, hopefully it'll work... haven't gained much weight but i've gained a lot of strength.

                      shit im 150 and the most i did was 65s. but thats supersets tho. never tried solo
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                      • Turboface
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                        • Mar 2002
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                        #12
                        I do 12oz curls.

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                        • emthree
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                          • Jun 2003
                          • 10816

                          #13
                          dumbells at the moment

                          I broke the cable that connects to the weights on my little mini gym

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                          • lexr
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                            • Jul 2003
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by KMR Stitch
                            Dumb Bell!

                            Bench press is a joke..If one arm is weaker the other arm helps to push up..dosen't give correct control.

                            When someone says they can bench press 150lbs ask them ok..

                            Bench press 75lbs each hand dumb bells See if they can do it.

                            With out there body shakeing
                            I couldn't agree more.

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                            • GrimShawn
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                              • Oct 2002
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                              • baddog
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                                • Apr 2001
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                                #16
                                both, they work the muscles differently

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                                • Gman.357
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                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 2796

                                  #17
                                  Barbell bench is for building bulk upper-body mass. Nothing is even close to it in that respect.

                                  Heavy dumbell bench builds mass as well, but it's a more concentrated exercize and since you can't move as heavy a weight, you're not using as many auxiliary muscles in the movement. Dumbells give a deeper stretch, and range of movement, but do not build mass as well as barbell press.

                                  Barbell press is the king of upperbody exercise if you're looking to get big. Ask any professional bodybuilder that question, and they'll tell you.

                                  Edit: However, both are great for getting lean mass if used together. One isn't as effective without the other.
                                  Last edited by Gman.357; 09-03-2003, 05:53 AM.

                                  Ouch.

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                                  • Dusen
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                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 2251

                                    #18
                                    I agree, you have to do "power" exercises as well.

                                    I don't agree with ONLY doing dumbbells.

                                    Sure dumbbells are wicked, I use the more than the bar, but you NEED the bar to get the power.

                                    Same as cheat curls and anythign else. Don't do ONLY them, but if you rip a few off to develop power, you're doing yourself a favour.

                                    I love non-focused exercises as a change. Clean and press is WICKED. It helps you all around.
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                                    • Gman.357
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                                      • Oct 2002
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Dusen
                                      I agree, you have to do "power" exercises as well.

                                      I don't agree with ONLY doing dumbbells.

                                      Sure dumbbells are wicked, I use the more than the bar, but you NEED the bar to get the power.

                                      Same as cheat curls and anythign else. Don't do ONLY them, but if you rip a few off to develop power, you're doing yourself a favour.

                                      I love non-focused exercises as a change. Clean and press is WICKED. It helps you all around.
                                      I used to powerlift competitively years ago. I did no concentrated movements; only heavy deadlift, squats, and bar bench presses. One day a friend of mine told me to pick up the dumbell 100's for inclined presses. I was barely able to pound out 3 reps.

                                      That's when it occured to me that you NEED that full range of motion dumbells provide to increase overall strength. And obviously the opposite is also true.

                                      We used to scoff at the guys in the gym who only did dumbell presses. They weren't big guys, and when you put them on a bench with a straight bar that had just a little more weight than they were used to, they got crushed.

                                      I think also it makes a difference in intensity when you realize that with dumbells, if you can't do the rep, you can always just toss them down to your sides. Mentally, with an olympic bar (and over 300lbs in plates on it), the urgency of a successful lift is a little more apparent. Of course, you should always have a spotter regardless.


                                      Ouch.

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                                      • Dusen
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                                        • Aug 2002
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                                        #20
                                        I agree. Mix em up. To only do one or the other leaves you lacking.

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                                        • Bex
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                                          • Feb 2003
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                                          #21
                                          Both are good ... Dumb bells hit many of the smaller "control" muscles that bars just can't hit as well.


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                                          • PornDaddy
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                                            • Sep 2001
                                            • 354

                                            #22
                                            I like the clanking sound my 5lb dumbells make at the top of my reps. Plus the bar weighs 45lbs, and who can lift that?

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                                            • Dusen
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                                              • Aug 2002
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                                              #23
                                              I once took my 5' tall tiny girlfriend to the gym and she struggled with the bar, she said "Is there a lighter bar?".

                                              Had a good laugh
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                                              • MattB
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                                                • Dec 2002
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Dusen
                                                I once took my 5' tall tiny girlfriend to the gym and she struggled with the bar, she said "Is there a lighter bar?".

                                                Had a good laugh
                                                LOL.....my gf said this to me last night doing incline.
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                                                • Bulldog-Johnnie
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                                                  • Jan 2003
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                                                  #25
                                                  It depends on what you're trying to accomplish. In most cases however, you can get better results with dumbells. If you are trying to gain serious mass and strength, barbells are necessary. The top mass gaining excercises require barbells- Squat, Shrugs, Bench and Shoulder Press. Lifting heavy is dangerous and really unnecessary unless you are really trying to put on some size. I have completely elimanted Bench Press from my workouts because it's too hard on my shoulders and I'm not planning on competeing in powerlifting anymore.

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                                                  Last edited by Bulldog-Johnnie; 09-03-2003, 07:52 AM.
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