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ABC News: Justice Department Launches Long-Anticipated War on Obscenity

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Well... we got Ashahahahaha by default. The sorry thing is... those asshole are going to get a second term.You guys voted for him and support him and his administration.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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...and to think Ashhahahahaha lost an election to a dead guy...and then became the nation's most powerful lawyer...Comment
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Which for the record ...Originally posted by WiredGuy
Exactly, this is more or less a transcript of the Niteline show from a few nights ago.
WG
Ted Coppell pinned that goof.
" ..where is the line?"
still not answered.Comment
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Yup, that lawyer did shit all on the show, avoided the question any way he could and even Ted came out and said he's still waiting for the answer and nothing, all show long he avoided it.Originally posted by sexeducation
Which for the record ...
Ted Coppell pinned that goof.
" ..where is the line?"
still not answered.
WGI play with Google.Comment
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Freedom of speech is on the line here.Originally posted by WiredGuy
Yup, that lawyer did shit all on the show, avoided the question any way he could and even Ted came out and said he's still waiting for the answer and nothing, all show long he avoided it.
WG
The issue to me is not the content but the definition of "community".
Could GFY be targeted as having obscene content in the local jurisdiction where the server is hosted?
Or will GFY be recognized as it's own unique community?
just my thoughts...Comment
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No they arent. Either howard dean or wesley clark, possibly both, will make people realize what a mistake bush has been. The economy isnt going to get better running 500 billion dollar deficits and no way in hell the iraq thing is going anywhere but down. 17 more months and they are history, watch and see.Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
The sorry thing is... those asshole are going to get a second term.Last edited by Big Monkie; 08-31-2003, 01:18 PM.Comment
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Lets hope so.
A few hundred more dead GI's, Iraq spirals further into a uncontrollable war torn money pit, Saddam doesnt get caught, Osama never gets caught, the economy slips further into my anus. Afghanistan is all but lost. Pray for some terrorist attacks on home soil to further run the economy into the ground. Pray the UN tells us to go fuck ourselves and to continue to try and control Iraq ourselves. I hope England pulls out soon.
But never ever underestimate the ignorance of the American population.
I dont like democrats, but they are way less scary than evangelical christians running the country.
Whats happening now is the same thing that happened to Bush Sr. Everything was all fine and dandy when it was yellow ribbons and "liberating" Kuwait.Last edited by [Labret]; 08-31-2003, 01:28 PM.Comment
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Ignorance only means you dont know. Bush will have tremendous money, will continue to own the media, and will still have the right wing attack/spin machine going full bore. But really, if you simply stand back and look at things from a distance, 98% of the bush administration is smoke and mirrors. All it will (or should) take is someone standing up and shouting out that the emperor has no clothes.Originally posted by [Labret]
never ever underestimate the ignorance of the American population.
And for the dems to have at least a halfway decent candidate who isnt afraid to stand up. Yeah, that is the problem part.........Comment
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Originally posted by [Labret]
Lets hope so.
.... Pray the UN tells us to go fuck ourselves and to continue to try and control Iraq ourselves. I hope England pulls out soon.
But never ever underestimate the ignorance of the American population.
I dont like democrats, but they are way less scary than evangelical christians running the country.
Whats happening now is the same thing that happened to Bush Sr. Everything was all fine and dandy when it was yellow ribbons and "liberating" Kuwait.
I agree with that part totally....however I could never hope for more dead people...
I fear GW will get a 2nd term unless the momentum picks up and continues for Dean....
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I am no longer in Detroit slappy.
Besides, what dumbass would waste valuable chemical and biological weapons on a bunch of poor ******s and Chaldeans?
They will end up in your water supply long before they will end up in mine. I pray for the day a large suburban area of soccer moms and their fat fucking kids involuntarily shit their own liquified guts out of their asses.
It will all be on Bush shoulders.
Dead yuppies and Bush in more shit. I am getting a boner.Comment
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You are so right!!Originally posted by [Labret]
You guys voted for him and support him and his administration.
idiots.
And now comes the big "But we didn't know that" Crying@@Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's DormComment
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Yes, it is. And to be quite honest, I am not all the worried about the coming crackdown that is promised. So far they nailed two people sending shit through the US Mail. When they start hitting people like Bang Bus, SIC, Adult, or any of the larger programs that deal almost strictly in internet based smut, then I will start to shit my pants and debate moving to Mexico or Canada for a little bit.Originally posted by hottoddy
Isn't this just a rehash of the poo poo people using the federal mail to send shit videos? They deserved to go down.
They can talk all the shit they want to appease the simple minded halfwhit christian conservatives that they pander to, but whether or not they can pull it off is another story.
Shit eating and abusive material through the mail is an easy one for them to nail. Lets see them try to bring down a multimillion dollar internet operation. That will be the asshole clincher and the tone setter for the rest of their prosecutions.
Two idiots getting nailed I think hardly constitutes the opening volley in the war on pr0n.
Its the mere idea of it, and people who support Bush who work in porn that I find mind numbing.Comment
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How ignorant to say that from somebody in the Porn Business. For your information I got nailed in 1999 for Assignation and it was a 3 year court battle. ( I am not rehashing all of that)Originally posted by hottoddy
Isn't this just a rehash of the poo poo people using the federal mail to send shit videos? They deserved to go down.
Assignation - Doing an Illegal act with your lover (basically)
The law still exists -
Sodomy - Any un-natural sex act besides missionary position --
Just be careful what you wish for, next week they might find Anal Sex, Interracial - Bondage (that's already on the poo poo list), Gangbangs, Fish-hooks etc etc etc obcene
Than what smarty pants?
it really gets to me when Adult Webmasters judge other Adult Related business, I say it again..
I PERSONALLY DO NOT LIKE those kind of movies, however I do not like a lot of things
Degrading women - Gagging Blowjobs - Fisting - etc etc etc
That doesn't mean I want to see those guys in jail and their sites shut down it only means
That I am an ADULT, I should be ADULT enough to choose what I want to watch, if I CHOOSE to entertain myself by watching a guy shit on a girl than so be it, as long as they are of legal age and nobody gets hurt, go for it.
I WANT A CHOICE -- I DON'T WANT YOU TO MAKE MY CHOICE FOR ME

Sending it thru the mail might have been not the smartest thing they ever did, however there are millions of Amateurs who sell their movies and send them thru the mail. What happend to the privacy act?Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's DormComment
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Right on! It's all bullshit from the Dept. of Justice. What's happening here is that they need a diversion to attract people away from the collapsing economy, global turmoil and the leftover nazi bullshit still trying to run shit.Originally posted by [Labret]
Lets hope so.
A few hundred more dead GI's, Iraq spirals further into a uncontrollable war torn money pit, Saddam doesnt get caught, Osama never gets caught, the economy slips further into my anus. Afghanistan is all but lost. Pray for some terrorist attacks on home soil to further run the economy into the ground. Pray the UN tells us to go fuck ourselves and to continue to try and control Iraq ourselves. I hope England pulls out soon.
But never ever underestimate the ignorance of the American population.
I dont like democrats, but they are way less scary than evangelical christians running the country.
Whats happening now is the same thing that happened to Bush Sr. Everything was all fine and dandy when it was yellow ribbons and "liberating" Kuwait.
The powers that be know full well that 'sex' is a big draw for attention and they're using it to the hilt. Plus it's the only way they can get a look at some porn without sneaking around to do it. Can you imagine the amount of porn they've d/loaded already and are passing around at parties?
Freedom of speech does NOT cover obscene material. Yet part of the definition of obscene is 'community' based. As long as the community doesn't SEE it how can it be obscene? Servers don't blast their content out on the sidewalk so same with cyberspace. Cyberspace is not a 'real' location. Whatta you gonna do? Arrest subatomic photons?
No, this is a diversion and an election year scam. If they were serious they'd have long gone after prostitution but you can't do that or Washington D.C. wouldn't be a fun place to work.Comment
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Kind of like a cold monday morning after a sunday night party. I agree with you, and I'm not even American .Originally posted by [Labret]
Lets hope so.
A few hundred more dead GI's, Iraq spirals further into a uncontrollable war torn money pit, Saddam doesnt get caught, Osama never gets caught, the economy slips further into my anus. Afghanistan is all but lost. Pray for some terrorist attacks on home soil to further run the economy into the ground. Pray the UN tells us to go fuck ourselves and to continue to try and control Iraq ourselves. I hope England pulls out soon.
But never ever underestimate the ignorance of the American population.
I dont like democrats, but they are way less scary than evangelical christians running the country.
Whats happening now is the same thing that happened to Bush Sr. Everything was all fine and dandy when it was yellow ribbons and "liberating" Kuwait.Comment
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The problems we have now, the if you dont like it dont buy it doesnt work anymore. When everyone I know their email box is full of graphic spam whether they want it or not. Alot of the stuff I get arent european webmasters this shit comes from US websites. This gives the right lots of ammo.Comment
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That sums it up in a nutshell!!!Originally posted by tony404
The problems we have now, the if you dont like it dont buy it doesnt work anymore. When everyone I know their email box is full of graphic spam whether they want it or not. Alot of the stuff I get arent european webmasters this shit comes from US websites. This gives the right lots of ammo.
Irresponsibility and unethical tactics draws unwanted attention and makes everyone else guilty by association. Yet you try to tell these lunkheads to knock it off and it's 'fuck you, I have to pay for college' attitude.
They can't make money being creative so they stoop to this email spam shit pissing everybody off and lousing things up for everyone else.
Pretty soon, I kid you not, there'll be a law that says if someone gets email spam and your website's name is in it ( doesn't matter if you sent it or not ) YOU will get hit with a bill or fine.
It's coming, I warn you.Comment
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From your mouth to God's ear.Originally posted by Big Monkie
No they arent. Either howard dean or wesley clark, possibly both, will make people realize what a mistake bush has been. The economy isnt going to get better running 500 billion dollar deficits and no way in hell the iraq thing is going anywhere but down. 17 more months and they are history, watch and see.
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Originally posted by [Labret]
Lets hope so.
A few hundred more dead GI's, Iraq spirals further into a uncontrollable war torn money pit, Saddam doesnt get caught, Osama never gets caught, the economy slips further into my anus. Afghanistan is all but lost. Pray for some terrorist attacks on home soil to further run the economy into the ground. Pray the UN tells us to go fuck ourselves and to continue to try and control Iraq ourselves. I hope England pulls out soon.
But never ever underestimate the ignorance of the American population.
I dont like democrats, but they are way less scary than evangelical christians running the country.
Whats happening now is the same thing that happened to Bush Sr. Everything was all fine and dandy when it was yellow ribbons and "liberating" Kuwait.
I agree. If things continue on this path Bush's chances are probably slightly below 50% depending who's running against him, but a few things can happen between now and then to effect that.
What if a domestic terrorist attack equal to or greater than 9/11 happens a few months before the elections? I have a feeling people would be afraid to put someone new in there and would likely rally behind Bush.
Or an even more likely and scarier scenario. The Bush administration is quite aware of how Bush Sr's popularity dropped like a brick after the first Gulf war and it wouldnt surprise me one bit for them to start a war with N Korea or Iran in an attempt to boost ratings. I completely distrust this administration and I think they will stop at nothing to stay in power.Comment
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I agree to a certain extent.
Playing with North Korea could have disasterous affects. Bush doesnt want to play ball with anyone who stands a fighting chance. So far he invaded Afghanistan, whoopde fucking do, a group of Muslim seminary students managed to take over the country with horses and old tanks before we got there. Iraq was a joke, although I think they shoulda put up a little better fight than they did. I would say he would jump on Iran or Syria long before N. Korea. But neither of them have been starved out and fucked with for the last 10 years like Iraq. Iran wouldnt just lay down and take it.
And I would like to think that perhaps people wouldnt be so ignorant as to believe any invasion now of a foreign power before the election was nothing short of trying to rally support for re-election and act as a diversion from economic troubles at home. Americans are stupid and have short attention spans. He managed to hold it the last couple of years, but I believe even the Roosters of the world have to feel more than slightly insulted that they were made fools of.
Another attack on home soil though, that would be another story. Out would come the flag blindfolds again and most of the people would blindly goose step and suck the neo-patriot cock all the way to the polls. Unless it was stellar... dirty nuke in downtown New York stellar would put a damper on things and send the economy into chaos.
He fucks up anymore than he already has, and he is toast. This Iraq thing needs te keep going sour. More soldiers need to die daily and on a slightly stepped up pace. If the UN doesnt come in and save Bush from his mess, it will be a good thing. It may be cold, but these kids are dying because of him and nobody else. Each kid that dies is another slap across Bush's face.
As ignorant as they may be, sooner or later the idiots in this country will realize they just took it in the ass and were used like little puppets. But that takes some faith in the American cultural and educational vacuum, of which I have none.Last edited by [Labret]; 08-31-2003, 10:03 PM.Comment
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as usual you are dead on Labret, werd up. as sad as it is, its already happening over there... 'operation meat shield' continues unabated it seems.This Iraq thing needs te keep going sour. More soldiers need to die daily and on a slightly stepped up pace. If the UN doesnt come in and save Bush from his mess, it will be a good thing. It may be cold, but these kids are dying because of him and nobody else. Each kid that dies is another slap across Bush's face.
and for anyone here who is reliant on checks/money from this industry, for you to cheer this "obscenity witchhunt onward w/ comments like "They deserved to go down.", to coin a phrase you people are shitting in your own garden... any administration that attempts to dictate what forms of consensual erotic expression should be *allowed* is not a good thing for your continuing monetary freedoms, period. w/ the happenings lately i wouldn't be surprised to see any subjectively "distasteful" niche fall to the chopping block... anal, gangbang, facial, feet, etc...
anyone who feels some bizarre innate need to prop up this asstastic administration please try to keep this in mind... these people have no great love of your porn-slinging ass either, they would love nothing more than to put the lot of us out of business wholesale, not just those who skirt the obscenity edge. all of us who purvey 'filth'.
oh, and since we're discussing obscenity, heres some of the most obscene material i've had the misforture to come across in the last few months, and on network television w/ my fucking kids in the room no less. fucking visigoths..
Pics of dead people
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i've seen this similar headline on at least ten different stories from news sources:
"Justice Department Launches Long-Anticipated War on Obscenity"
"Obscenity Prosecution
KABC, CA - Aug 28, 2003
... This case is part of a wider Justice Department effort to crack down on child
pornography and porn that it views as obscene - a cause Justice Department ..."
"Feds again get tough on porn purveyors
Orlando Sentinel, FL - Aug 24, 2003
WASHINGTON -- For the first time in a decade, the Justice Department has begun
going after producers of pornographic material"
"Drawing line: US renewing its fight against pornography
Baltimore Sun, MD - Aug 27, 2003
... case, which gets under way today in Pittsburgh, is among the first being tackled
by the Justice Department in a ... It is hard to make a case against porn ... "
"Obscenity Indictment Start of Justice Department Crackdown
Cybercast News Service - Aug 11, 2003
... The Justice Department ... Children get a warped view of sexuality. And, among other things,
pedophiles use adult porn to desensitize their child victims. ... "Last edited by titmowse; 08-31-2003, 11:41 PM.I still love everybodyComment
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I did not vote for the anti christOriginally posted by [Labret]
You guys voted for him and support him and his administration.
idiots.
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"One of the confiscated movies, Forced Entry, features three graphic scenes of women being spat upon, raped and murdered."
Yeah it´s a damn shame they can´t leave these people alone..Comment
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Are you that fucking stupid?Originally posted by the real magoo
"One of the confiscated movies, Forced Entry, features three graphic scenes of women being spat upon, raped and murdered."
Yeah it´s a damn shame they can´t leave these people alone..Comment
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What's odd is that in Miller vs California, they went after smut mailers because some of the mailed items went to the wrong people.
am i incorrect that in both the extreme and poopy cases, the materials were bought and paid for by investigators?I still love everybodyComment
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