100 whiney webmasters complaining about shaving.
Third party affiliate programs are NO PROTECTION against shaving. Consider the following two scenarios:
1). Your sponsor has two CCBill (or any third party system) accounts "A" and "B". The sponsor has an affiliate program on account "A". You send your clicks through CCBill's counter/cookie script using your affliate id from account "A". Your sponsor sends some of your traffic to account "A" and some to account "B". You get credit for only the signups on account "A". Anything that goes to account "B" you don't get credit for.
2). You send your clicks through CCBill's counter/cookie script, using your affiliate id. Then after your traffic hits your sponsor's site he redirects some of it back through the counter/cookie script under a different affiliate id before send it to his join page. You only get credited for all of your clicks but only some of your joins.
It took about two minutes to think up those two scenearios. There are probably several more, especially when you through multiple billing companies, payment methods, multiple sites, etc. into the mix. If a sponsor wants to shave you, you can't do anything to stop it. If you think third party is some magical solution you're an idiot.
The only way to limit your exposure to shaving is to shop your traffic around from one affiliate program to another until you find the one that pays you the most. Then continue shopping around
a portion of your traffic so you'll always know who will pay you the most at any given time.
Originally posted by OneHungLo
Ya ever wonder why you never see anyone using ccbill paying 40 dollars a signup? Ill tell ya why, cuz they cant manipulate the stats and signups that you're actually getting.
I challange ANY and ALL sponsors paying on per sign up to use ccbill an let their affilates signup directly thru ccbill and give them $30- 40 a signup.
Ya ever wonder why you never see anyone using ccbill paying 40 dollars a signup? Ill tell ya why, cuz they cant manipulate the stats and signups that you're actually getting.
I challange ANY and ALL sponsors paying on per sign up to use ccbill an let their affilates signup directly thru ccbill and give them $30- 40 a signup.
1). Your sponsor has two CCBill (or any third party system) accounts "A" and "B". The sponsor has an affiliate program on account "A". You send your clicks through CCBill's counter/cookie script using your affliate id from account "A". Your sponsor sends some of your traffic to account "A" and some to account "B". You get credit for only the signups on account "A". Anything that goes to account "B" you don't get credit for.
2). You send your clicks through CCBill's counter/cookie script, using your affiliate id. Then after your traffic hits your sponsor's site he redirects some of it back through the counter/cookie script under a different affiliate id before send it to his join page. You only get credited for all of your clicks but only some of your joins.
It took about two minutes to think up those two scenearios. There are probably several more, especially when you through multiple billing companies, payment methods, multiple sites, etc. into the mix. If a sponsor wants to shave you, you can't do anything to stop it. If you think third party is some magical solution you're an idiot.
The only way to limit your exposure to shaving is to shop your traffic around from one affiliate program to another until you find the one that pays you the most. Then continue shopping around
a portion of your traffic so you'll always know who will pay you the most at any given time.
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