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  • sperbonzo
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    #1

    The Nazis were amatures compared to the communists.

    Adolf Hitler has become the embodiment of human evil, yet he wasn?t the biggest killer of the last century. He didn?t even come in second. He was third, behind two communists, Joseph Stalin and Mao Tse-Tung

    Hitler?s Nazis killed about 31 million people between 1933 and 1945. Stalin killed twice that many, and Mao killed just under 38 million. When you add in the murders attributable to Lenin , Pol Pot , Tito and the remaining communist dictators of Asia, Africa, Eastern Europe and Latin America, communism claimed way more than 100 million lives, more than nine times the number killed by Nazism. These estimates vary, but it?s generally accepted now among historians that communism took FAR more lives than Nazism

    I'm not trying to minimize the atrocities of the Holocaust. My point is that communism also killed hundreds of millions this last century; it enslaved, and continues to enslave, billions more.

    Think of what the human race might have accomplished had billions of us not been imprisoned by communism but been free to explore, stretch and reach our potential through competition, innovation and creativity.

    Right now, North Korea is imposing a famine on its own people, with resulting deaths estimated in the millions. Communist regimes continue to hold captive the people of China, Laos, Vietnam and Cuba. Human rights abuses abound in all five countries.

    So why is communism considered trendy? Can you imagine a nightclub that has Nazi symbols all over it? Why are there nightclubs/t-shirts etc....that are considered cute that have communist symbols all over the place?

    The Nazis were amatures compared to the communists. Why do we still find communism acceptable?
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  • rooster
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    #2
    nazis killed jews, jews control the media.
    Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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    • NoCarrier
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      #3
      Originally posted by sperbonzo
      Why do we still find communism acceptable?
      LOL?! May I remind u that we won against communism? Welcome back to 1990. The world almost ended because of that conflict.

      NEXT!

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      • sperbonzo
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        #4
        LOL?! May I remind u that we won against communism? Welcome back to 1990. The world almost ended because of that conflict.
        Really? We won? Huh.......I guess the estimated 2 billion people still under communist rule didn't get the memo yet....
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        • lexr
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          #5
          You know what group of people are worse today? Those who seek to legislate morality in America today.

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          • [Labret]
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            #6
            Originally posted by rooster
            nazis killed jews, jews control the media.
            Please mark this day on the calendar.

            The day I agreed with Rooster.

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            • SMG
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              #7
              genocide is bad,mmmkay?
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              • sperbonzo
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                #8
                The day I agreed with Rooster.

                For god's sake! Somebody get an action news team with a camera over there....Now!
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                • cluck
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                  #9
                  There is noone under communist rule today. It's a perversion of totalitarian socialism marketted as communism. Any true marxist would know that communism only comes after thousands of years when all countries become socialist and disarm.
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                  • sperbonzo
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                    #10
                    There is noone under communist rule today. It's a perversion of totalitarian socialism marketted as communism. Any true marxist would know that communism only comes after thousands of years when all countries become socialist and disarm
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                      #11
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                      • sperbonzo
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                        #12
                        PLEASE!!! From Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin onward, communism has ALWAYS been driven by power. Slave labor and the ?liquidation? of dissidents were always part of the plan.


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                        • extreme
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                          #13
                          The ideas behind communism isn't _all_ that bad .. its the ppl that have been in power in communist countries that's been bad. But of course it would be naive to not see any connection at all either.

                          I saw a documentary on Stalin on discovery just yesterday .. damn he killed alot of ppl, he killed most of his Own communist party friends .. cause of paranoia. Dunno if I would say it was "communism" that killed thoose ppl. Ppl still alive from that time said, "Stalin wasn't a communist, he was a plain mass murderer".

                          Communist ideas isn't about violence .. but maybe the system in its basics somehow makes it easy for one man to abuse so profound that we've seen in history? I dont know.

                          It think the nazi idiology differs from that .. they had more violence "built" into their ideas etc. Nazism IS violence.

                          Communism is more a set of ideas about how to share the wealth fair amongst the ppl. Even though it doesn't seem to work in practice ... prob. cause alot of things and fact that the human is egoistic in its very basic nature and wants as much as she can lay her hands on. The force that drives us, we always want more.

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                          • Cash
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                            #14
                            Nazis didn't have the time to kill and enslave more people, but it's true communists killed many more.
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                            • Lane
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                              #15
                              isn't Nazism a 'sub-ideal' of fascism? correct me if i'm wrong

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                              • sperbonzo
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                                #16
                                It just seems crazy to me that people still say...."if it only worked right..."

                                It's like having the best blueprints for the best plane ever built, only trouble is, every time you build it, it crashes and kills people. Maybe the blueprint isn't as great as it looks on paper, hUh?
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                                • Lane
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                                  #17
                                  by the way, probably Hitler was the biggest threat of all ,maybe thats why its not really overrated

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                                  • Cash
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                                    #18
                                    extreme, you are a dreamer, right?
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                                    • sperbonzo
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                                      #19
                                      isn't Nazism a 'sub-ideal' of fascism? correct me if i'm wrong
                                      "Nazi" actually stood for "National Socialism"
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                                      • extreme
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Cash
                                        extreme, you are a dreamer, right?
                                        Not really actually. I try to be as open minded as I can though =)

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                                        • Buff
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                                          #21
                                          Note the part about adding "000" to the end of the numbers.

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                                          • Cash
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by extreme


                                            Not really actually. I try to be as open minded as I can though =)
                                            So, if in every communist country, those "nice" ideas turned into a murderous dictatorship, how open minded can you be about them? Such ideas can exist only in a democracy, where reality shows people sometimes vote for them, and after a while rejects them and vote for liberals, conservatives, etc.
                                            If you want to enforce only one political party with such "ideas" it turns to be a dictatorship, with murders and enslaved citizens.
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                                            • Buff
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by extreme
                                              The ideas behind communism isn't _all_ that bad .. its the ppl that have been in power in communist countries that's been bad. But of course it would be naive to not see any connection at all either.
                                              Actually, the idea behind communism is really that bad.

                                              Communal ownership is a fucking disaster, because it requires some mechanism for Central Planning. In other words, someone somewhere, or some group somewhere has to make the actual decisions about what is going to get produced, how it is going to get produced, how much of it is going to be produced, how it is going to be distributed, etc.

                                              This determination needs to be decided not only for the final item being produced, but for every item along the way in the process of production.

                                              The problem is that no one person or group of people is smart enough or privy to enough information to be able to calculate such a thing even for 1 item to be produced, much less for a whole economy.

                                              I mean, you don't even know what you want for lunch tomorrow, so how the hell is some central planner going to know how many cows he should have killed last Thursday?

                                              What you need is people making their own decisions about what they want to produce, and a system of market-set prices to relay to them what people want them to produce. That's how you match up supplies with demands.

                                              Free markets are the only way to get resources allocated with any degree of efficiency -- it's still trial and error, but since it's done on the individual level, it's much more adaptable.

                                              When central planning guides an economy, it is always nothing but a complete crapshoot, because the planner doesn't even have prices to use as a guide.

                                              For more on this, read some von Mises.

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                                              • Tex Willer
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Buff
                                                Note the part about adding "000" to the end of the numbers.

                                                that tito line is plain bullshit

                                                perhaps they added to the total the number of nazis and nazi servants that his troops sent to hell

                                                and he died in 1980, not 1987

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                                                • Buff
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Tex Willer


                                                  that tito line is plain bullshit

                                                  perhaps they added to the total the number of nazis and nazi servants that his troops sent to hell

                                                  and he died in 1980, not 1987
                                                  where's it say he died in 87?

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                                                  • extreme
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                                                    #26
                                                    Actually, communism have some violence built into it .. since the way to power was thruu revolution -- violence. But I still think that nazi ideas, on the paper, is more into violence then communism.

                                                    Hitler mainly masskilled jews. Stalin just masskilled everybody =). Including a shitload his own ppl.

                                                    Lists was sent out to each small policediscrict by stalin that basicly said "You need to enprison X and kill Y amount of ppl that are against our country, now go find them".

                                                    That discoveryshow on Stalin yesterday was pretty interesting.

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                                                    • Tex Willer
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Buff


                                                      where's it say he died in 87?
                                                      nowhere but that'd be ridicilous anyway, that's 1.9k+ yrs before =)

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                                                      • extreme
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Buff


                                                        Actually, the idea behind communism is really that bad.

                                                        Communal ownership is a fucking disaster, because it requires some mechanism for Central Planning. In other words, someone somewhere, or some group somewhere has to make the actual decisions about what is going to get produced, how it is going to get produced, how much of it is going to be produced, how it is going to be distributed, etc.

                                                        This determination needs to be decided not only for the final item being produced, but for every item along the way in the process of production.

                                                        The problem is that no one person or group of people is smart enough or privy to enough information to be able to calculate such a thing even for 1 item to be produced, much less for a whole economy.

                                                        I mean, you don't even know what you want for lunch tomorrow, so how the hell is some central planner going to know how many cows he should have killed last Thursday?

                                                        What you need is people making their own decisions about what they want to produce, and a system of market-set prices to relay to them what people want them to produce. That's how you match up supplies with demands.

                                                        Free markets are the only way to get resources allocated with any degree of efficiency -- it's still trial and error, but since it's done on the individual level, it's much more adaptable.

                                                        When central planning guides an economy, it is always nothing but a complete crapshoot, because the planner doesn't even have prices to use as a guide.

                                                        For more on this, read some von Mises.
                                                        Well said, I agree =). My post was mainly aimed towards the violence / masskillings. The communist ideas (except for the revolution ;)...) isn't about violence AFAIK.

                                                        Buy communism is apperently not a good way to run an economy.

                                                        On the other hand, a politic idea (or a religion for that matter) is never better then the ppl that is in charge/lives by/rules it ... and the human is kind of violent and greedy in its nature.

                                                        Thoose central ruling/one party ideas is prob. the weakest links in communism, both regarding to the effect on the economics and the possibility to abuse the system to the bizzar lengths that, amongst others, Stalin did.

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                                                        • Mr.Fiction
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by sperbonzo


                                                          The Nazis were amatures compared to the communists. Why do we still find communism acceptable?
                                                          Millions were killed during the Christian Crusades. As a percentage of the world's population, the number killed would probably dwarf what happened in Germany.

                                                          Why is Christianity acceptable?
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                                                          • rooster
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                                                            #30
                                                            would rather have more christians than more muslims.
                                                            Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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                                                            • Mr.Fiction
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by rooster
                                                              would rather have more christians than more muslims.
                                                              Someday in the future there will be a giant stone statue of the Koran in every Federal Court house in the country.

                                                              Also, Spanish will be the official language.

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                                                              • extreme
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                                                                #32
                                                                How about Budhism? A religion that's Not been abused to kill millions of ppl ... they may be on to something there.

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                                                                • PeerPatrick
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Umm your point in all this? While I am glad you can read stats, i am not to sure that your conclusions are sound...ummmm what was that again, uhh yes Nazis'=amatures-- CAUTION- FoxNews Deep Thinker, careful folks....

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                                                                  • DJRCyberAVS
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


                                                                    Millions were killed during the Christian Crusades. As a percentage of the world's population, the number killed would probably dwarf what happened in Germany.

                                                                    Why is Christianity acceptable?
                                                                    and so did the Romans, Egyptians....and the Turks/Muslims.

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                                                                    • lexr
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by rooster
                                                                      would rather have more christians than more muslims.
                                                                      Considering they both could get VERY extreme and very conservative. I'd rather have more of neither.
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                                                                      • Joe Average
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                                                        Adolf Hitler has become the embodiment of human evil, yet he wasn?t the biggest killer of the last century. He didn?t even come in second. He was third, behind two communists, Joseph Stalin and Mao Tse-Tung

                                                                        Hitler?s Nazis killed about 31 million people between 1933 and 1945. Stalin killed twice that many, and Mao killed just under 38 million. When you add in the murders attributable to Lenin , Pol Pot , Tito and the remaining communist dictators of Asia, Africa, Eastern Europe and Latin America, communism claimed way more than 100 million lives, more than nine times the number killed by Nazism. These estimates vary, but it?s generally accepted now among historians that communism took FAR more lives than Nazism

                                                                        I'm not trying to minimize the atrocities of the Holocaust. My point is that communism also killed hundreds of millions this last century; it enslaved, and continues to enslave, billions more.

                                                                        Think of what the human race might have accomplished had billions of us not been imprisoned by communism but been free to explore, stretch and reach our potential through competition, innovation and creativity.

                                                                        Right now, North Korea is imposing a famine on its own people, with resulting deaths estimated in the millions. Communist regimes continue to hold captive the people of China, Laos, Vietnam and Cuba. Human rights abuses abound in all five countries.

                                                                        So why is communism considered trendy? Can you imagine a nightclub that has Nazi symbols all over it? Why are there nightclubs/t-shirts etc....that are considered cute that have communist symbols all over the place?

                                                                        The Nazis were amatures compared to the communists. Why do we still find communism acceptable?
                                                                        Nazi's... Communists... they're all totalitarianists anyway so who cares what they call themselves.

                                                                        Marxism has very little to do with 20th century manifestations of "Communism".
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                                                                          "...The following are Rummel's 12 most murderous regimes (from his article in the Encyclopedia of Genocide, 1999): (1) USSR, 62 million deaths, 1917-'87; (2) People's Republic of China, 35 million, 1949-'87; (3) Germany, 21 million, 1933-'45; (4) nationalist China, 10 million, 1928-'49; (5) Japan, 6 million, 1936-'45; (6) prerevolutionary Chinese communists ("Mao Soviets"), 3.5 million, 1923-'49; (7) Cambodia, 2 million, 1975-'79; (8) Turkey (Armenian genocide), 1.9 million, 1909-'18; (9) Vietnam, 1.7 million, 1945-'87; (10) Poland, 1.6 million, 1945-'48; (11) Pakistan, 1.5 million, 1958-'87; (12) Yugoslavia, 1.1 million, 1944-'87. Three additional "suspected megamurderers," as Rummel puts it, are North Korea, 1.7 million deaths, 1948-'87; Mexico, 1.4 million, 1900-'20; and czarist Russia, 1.1 million, 1900-'17.

                                                                          Rummel goes on to identify the top nine killers: (1) Joseph Stalin, 43 million dead, 1929-'53; (2) Mao Tse-tung, 38 million, 1923-'76; (3) Adolf Hitler, 21 million, 1933-'45; (4) Chiang Kai-shek, 10 million, 1921-'48; (5) Vladimir Lenin, 4 million, 1917-'24; (6) Tojo Hideki (Japan), 4 million, 1941-'45; (7) Pol Pot, 2.4 million, 1968-'87; (8) Yahya Khan (Pakistan), 1.5 million, 1971; (9) Josip Broz, better known as Marshal Tito (Yugoslavia), 1.2 million, 1941-'80."

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                                                                          • Ironhorse
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                                                            It just seems crazy to me that people still say...."if it only worked right..."

                                                                            It's like having the best blueprints for the best plane ever built, only trouble is, every time you build it, it crashes and kills people. Maybe the blueprint isn't as great as it looks on paper, hUh?
                                                                            No, it's more like saying "Wow, teleportation - that looks cool. Now how do we make it happen?" You don't actually have the blueprints, just a rough napkin sketch.
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                                                                            • sperbonzo
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                                                                              #39
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                                                                              Actually, I'm Jewish, and my grand parents were in Bergen-Belson . I'm just freaked that it is so acceptable to go around on (for example) college campuses with pro-communist symbols, since Nazi symbols would be so reviled. As a matter of fact, the communists have been responsible for the death of as many, or more Jews than the Nazis. I'm disgusted by both, and yet there are clubs where you can see communist symbols and photos of Che Guvara and Stalin, like it's a big joke. Try doing that with Hitler and swasitkas! I'm not pro-Nazi, I'm anti-communist, and I just don't understand why more people aren't.
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                                                                              • Roach
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                                                                Millions communists were Jews

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                                                                                • cluck
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Stalin was not really a communist, just like Hitler wasn't really a socialist. Some demagogues just use those words to appeal to the working class.

                                                                                  As for communism being about slavery, look at the capitalist world today. It's all about the people on top getting paid more as the people on the bottom are progressively paid less. Look at the manufacturing of all the products we use. American workers are getting fucked more and more because the corporate machine finds the cheapest labor possible in third world countries.

                                                                                  Honestly, we'd be a socialist nation if the right wing didn't have this fake association with christianity in the public eye. Alot of these workers I see getting fucked call themselves hardcore conservatives because capitalism allows them to rise to the top when really it just holds them at the bottom.

                                                                                  As for conservatives whining about having a limit on their wealth, I don't give a fuck. So under socialism they get fucked out of a multi million dollar house. At least their employees aren't fucked out of a decent quality of life.
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                                                                                  • cluck
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Think of what the human race might have accomplished had billions of us not been imprisoned by communism but been free to explore, stretch and reach our potential through competition, innovation and creativity.
                                                                                    Actually, Marx makes a good point about capitalism and social and economical advances. In our society, the lust for wealth DOES motivate some advances, but it also ends up stunting them. Consider computers. The first personal computers were created by your average college aged hackers and phreaks. Now, Bill Gates does all he can to minimize the focus on the new generation of programmers that develop software and operating systems. Why do you think we run Linux on our most valuable machines but not our own PC's? Linux just hasn't been adapted to be user friendly because there's no market for it. The guys on top think the dumb consumers are just fine running an inferior OS. If they didn't think that, they'd have accepted technological advancements and passed it along to the end user.

                                                                                    Had Bill Gates been rewarded generously for his accomplishments, but not made into a greedy capitalist, he might have spent all his years developing quality software rather than focusing on keeping himself rich.
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                                                                                    • spamofon
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      well americans enslaved ******s and killed indians

                                                                                      how can u accept democracy?

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                                                                                      • ADL Colin
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Why is it that people always defend Communism with the argument that it has never been completely tried - as if somehow doing it THE RIGHT WAY would matter? On and off, for 150 years people have been using that excuse for the failures of communism but it is not non-adherence to Marxist principle that are the problem but the ideas themselves.

                                                                                        For brief periods of time, state controlled economies (prices, labor) can provide quick growth but the system always breaks down when confronted with technological advance and size. The market mechanism is much better for determining what price someone is willing to pay for a microwave oven 1200 miles away than some bureaucrat sitting in an office trying to guess. Without the market absurdities arise. In the Soviet Union it became crazy. Do some reaseach and see how many price changes they needed to make decisons on every month in Moscow. They couldn't. Black markets arose to price goods correctly (supply/demand).

                                                                                        Another good example is the Soviet Union trying to adapt it's factories to building computers and microchips. It turned out to be impossible to control such a change from Moscow and keep up with its global competitors who were busy putting micrchips into missiles and bombs.

                                                                                        What solution did Marx provide for the problem of motivation or setting prices? One could say Adam Smith has never been completely tried either and yet capitalism, supply and demand, division of labor as determined by supply and demand for jobs has created the most robust economies in the world.

                                                                                        Marx ignores human nature. People don't want to be equal. They want to be better.

                                                                                        Yeah, everyone in communist markets is equal. They are equally poor.


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                                                                                        • Mr.Fiction
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                                                                                          • Feb 2002
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by sperbonzo


                                                                                          Actually, I'm Jewish, and my grand parents were in Bergen-Belson . I'm just freaked that it is so acceptable to go around on (for example) college campuses with pro-communist symbols, since Nazi symbols would be so reviled. As a matter of fact, the communists have been responsible for the death of as many, or more Jews than the Nazis. I'm disgusted by both, and yet there are clubs where you can see communist symbols and photos of Che Guvara and Stalin, like it's a big joke. Try doing that with Hitler and swasitkas! I'm not pro-Nazi, I'm anti-communist, and I just don't understand why more people aren't.
                                                                                          Christians have also killed more people than the Nazis over the years, why aren't you attacking Christians?

                                                                                          Do you think people should be ashamed to be Christian?
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                                                                                          • ADL Colin
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                                                            • 11929

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                                                            Do you think people should be ashamed to be Christian?
                                                                                            For the most part ;-)


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                                                                                            • baddog
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                                                                                              • Apr 2001
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                                                                                              #47
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