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  • MrPopup
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    • Aug 2002
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    The Final Canada Vs. USA Thread

    http://www.post-gazette.com/columnis...0sam0730p1.asp

    You live next door to a clean-cut, quiet guy. He never plays loud music or throws raucous parties. He doesn't gossip over the fence, just smiles politely and offers you some tomatoes. His lawn is cared-for, his house is neat as a pin and you get the feeling he doesn't always lock his front door. He wears Dockers. You hardly know he's there.

    And then one day you discover that he has pot in his basement, spends his weekends at peace marches and that guy you've seen mowing the yard is his spouse.

    Allow me to introduce Canada.

    The Canadians are so quiet that you may have forgotten they're up there, but they've been busy doing some surprising things. It's like discovering that the mice you are dimly aware of in your attic have been building an espresso machine.

    Did you realize, for example, that our reliable little tag-along brother never joined the Coalition of the Willing? Canada wasn't willing, as it turns out, to join the fun in Iraq. I can only assume American diner menus weren't angrily changed to include "freedom bacon," because nobody here eats the stuff anyway.

    And then there's the wild drug situation: Canadian doctors are authorized to dispense medical marijuana. Parliament is considering legislation that would not exactly legalize marijuana possession, as you may have heard, but would reduce the penalty for possession of under 15 grams to a fine, like a speeding ticket. This is to allow law enforcement to concentrate resources on traffickers; if your garden is full of wasps, it's smarter to go for the nest rather than trying to swat every individual bug. Or, in the United States, bong.

    Now, here's the part that I, as an American, can't understand. These poor benighted pinkos are doing everything wrong. They have a drug problem: Marijuana offences have doubled since 1991. And Canada has strict gun control laws, which means that the criminals must all be heavily armed, the law-abiding civilians helpless and the government on the verge of a massive confiscation campaign. (The laws have been in place since the '70s, but I'm sure the government will get around to the confiscation eventually.)

    They don't even have a death penalty!

    And yet .. nationally, overall crime in Canada has been declining since 1991. Violent crimes fell 13 percent in 2002. Of course, there are still crimes committed with guns -- brought in from the United States, which has become the major illegal weapons supplier for all of North America -- but my theory is that the surge in pot-smoking has rendered most criminals too relaxed to commit violent crimes. They're probably more focused on shoplifting boxes of Ho-Hos from convenience stores.

    And then there's the most reckless move of all: Just last month, Canada decided to allow and recognize same-sex marriages. Merciful moose, what can they be thinking? Will there be married Mounties (they always get their man!)? Dudley Do-Right was sweet on Nell, not Mel! We must be the only ones who really care about families. Not enough to make sure they all have health insurance, of course, but more than those libertines up north.

    This sort of behaviour is a clear and present danger to all our stereotypes about Canada. It's supposed to be a cold, wholesome country of polite, beer-drinking hockey players, not founded by freedom-fighters in a bloody revolution but quietly assembled by loyalists and royalists more interested in order and good government than liberty and independence.

    But if we are the rugged individualists, why do we spend so much of our time trying to get everyone to march in lockstep? And if Canadians are so reserved and moderate, why are they so progressive about letting people do what they want to?

    Canadians are, as a nation, less religious than we are, according to polls. As a result, Canada's government isn't influenced by large, well-organized religious groups and thus has more in common with those of Scandinavia than those of the United States, or, say, Iran.

    Canada signed the Kyoto global warming treaty, lets 19-year-olds drink, has more of its population living in urban areas and accepts more immigrants per capita than the United States. These are all things we've been told will wreck our society. But I guess Canadians are different, because theirs seems oddly sound.

    Like teenagers, we fiercely idolize individual freedom but really demand that everyone be the same. But the Canadians seem more adult -- more secure. They aren't afraid of foreigners. They aren't afraid of homosexuality. Most of all, they're not afraid of each other.

    I wonder if America will ever be that cool.

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  • CAHEK
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    #2
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    • abdab_1
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      • May 2003
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      #3
      Now, here's the part that I, as an American, can't understand. These poor benighted pinkos are doing everything wrong. They have a drug problem: Marijuana offences have doubled since 1991. And Canada has strict gun control laws, which means that the criminals must all be heavily armed, the law-abiding civilians helpless and the government on the verge of a massive confiscation campaign. (The laws have been in place since the '70s, but I'm sure the government will get around to the confiscation eventually.)

      This was an utter bit of shit in my opinion so they dont have guns who cares? They didnt go to Iraq to steal oil thats a thumbs up.

      I could not even be arsed to read the rest of this, one day the USA will finally understand that they are not the be all and end all.
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      • Corleone
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        • MrPopup
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          #5
          Originally posted by abdab_1
          I could not even be arsed to read the rest of this, one day the USA will finally understand that they are not the be all and end all.
          One day the rest of the world will learn how to read.
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          • bringer
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            #6
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            • abdab_1
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              • May 2003
              • 425

              #7
              I hope so, I know you did not write it though I just find this whole 'We are American' attitude some what difficult to cope with.

              I met a few people from this board who were American and they were sound enough. I have met US tourists in the street and in bars etc they are sound enough.

              Yet today after readin several posts it seems that many are race related and focusing on the bad in others.

              What is and has been posted today on three threds at least is racisim and that my friend is the sickest thing on this plannet by a mile.
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              • Fletch XXX
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                #8
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                • bringer
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                  • Jul 2003
                  • 13082

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                  I had a dream last night america died, and the world died with it.
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                    • pauliewalnutz
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                      • Jul 2003
                      • 486

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MrPopup
                      http://www.post-gazette.com/columnis...0sam0730p1.asp

                      You live next door to a clean-cut, quiet guy. He never plays loud music or throws raucous parties. He doesn't gossip over the fence, just smiles politely and offers you some tomatoes. His lawn is cared-for, his house is neat as a pin and you get the feeling he doesn't always lock his front door. He wears Dockers. You hardly know he's there.

                      And then one day you discover that he has pot in his basement, spends his weekends at peace marches and that guy you've seen mowing the yard is his spouse.

                      Allow me to introduce Canada.

                      The Canadians are so quiet that you may have forgotten they're up there, but they've been busy doing some surprising things. It's like discovering that the mice you are dimly aware of in your attic have been building an espresso machine.

                      Did you realize, for example, that our reliable little tag-along brother never joined the Coalition of the Willing? Canada wasn't willing, as it turns out, to join the fun in Iraq. I can only assume American diner menus weren't angrily changed to include "freedom bacon," because nobody here eats the stuff anyway.

                      And then there's the wild drug situation: Canadian doctors are authorized to dispense medical marijuana. Parliament is considering legislation that would not exactly legalize marijuana possession, as you may have heard, but would reduce the penalty for possession of under 15 grams to a fine, like a speeding ticket. This is to allow law enforcement to concentrate resources on traffickers; if your garden is full of wasps, it's smarter to go for the nest rather than trying to swat every individual bug. Or, in the United States, bong.

                      Now, here's the part that I, as an American, can't understand. These poor benighted pinkos are doing everything wrong. They have a drug problem: Marijuana offences have doubled since 1991. And Canada has strict gun control laws, which means that the criminals must all be heavily armed, the law-abiding civilians helpless and the government on the verge of a massive confiscation campaign. (The laws have been in place since the '70s, but I'm sure the government will get around to the confiscation eventually.)

                      They don't even have a death penalty!

                      And yet .. nationally, overall crime in Canada has been declining since 1991. Violent crimes fell 13 percent in 2002. Of course, there are still crimes committed with guns -- brought in from the United States, which has become the major illegal weapons supplier for all of North America -- but my theory is that the surge in pot-smoking has rendered most criminals too relaxed to commit violent crimes. They're probably more focused on shoplifting boxes of Ho-Hos from convenience stores.

                      And then there's the most reckless move of all: Just last month, Canada decided to allow and recognize same-sex marriages. Merciful moose, what can they be thinking? Will there be married Mounties (they always get their man!)? Dudley Do-Right was sweet on Nell, not Mel! We must be the only ones who really care about families. Not enough to make sure they all have health insurance, of course, but more than those libertines up north.

                      This sort of behaviour is a clear and present danger to all our stereotypes about Canada. It's supposed to be a cold, wholesome country of polite, beer-drinking hockey players, not founded by freedom-fighters in a bloody revolution but quietly assembled by loyalists and royalists more interested in order and good government than liberty and independence.

                      But if we are the rugged individualists, why do we spend so much of our time trying to get everyone to march in lockstep? And if Canadians are so reserved and moderate, why are they so progressive about letting people do what they want to?

                      Canadians are, as a nation, less religious than we are, according to polls. As a result, Canada's government isn't influenced by large, well-organized religious groups and thus has more in common with those of Scandinavia than those of the United States, or, say, Iran.

                      Canada signed the Kyoto global warming treaty, lets 19-year-olds drink, has more of its population living in urban areas and accepts more immigrants per capita than the United States. These are all things we've been told will wreck our society. But I guess Canadians are different, because theirs seems oddly sound.

                      Like teenagers, we fiercely idolize individual freedom but really demand that everyone be the same. But the Canadians seem more adult -- more secure. They aren't afraid of foreigners. They aren't afraid of homosexuality. Most of all, they're not afraid of each other.

                      I wonder if America will ever be that cool.

                      more@ http://www.post-gazette.com/columnis...0sam0730p1.asp
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                      • abdab_1
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                        #12
                        Question, why do america want armies from third world countries to go and patrol Iraq?


                        Are they offering to wipe off part of their debt.
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                        • Mutt
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                          #13
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                          • pauliewalnutz
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                            • Jul 2003
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by abdab_1
                            Question, why do america want armies from third world countries to go and patrol Iraq?


                            Are they offering to wipe off part of their debt.
                            Thats what I dont get why do we keep giving these poor ass countries $$$ and help for there armed services help.

                            I say we do it all ourselves and let all the men, women and children in those third world countries die of starvation or get help elsewhere.

                            This way the United States of America is not forcing countries to do something they dont want to but have to, taking advantage of them because they are a poor country, making enemies in another country, .... anyone who has a spouse or girl can let you know that this kind of list can go on and on and on......
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                            • abdab_1
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by pauliewalnutz


                              Thats what I dont get why do we keep giving these poor ass countries $$$ and help for there armed services help.

                              I say we do it all ourselves and let all the men, women and children in those third world countries die of starvation or get help elsewhere.

                              This way the United States of America is not forcing countries to do something they dont want to but have to, taking advantage of them because they are a poor country, making enemies in another country, .... anyone who has a spouse or girl can let you know that this kind of list can go on and on and on......
                              you have me lost for words as someof what you right is true ad some points I just cant understand.
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                              • pauliewalnutz
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by abdab_1


                                you have me lost for words as someof what you right is true ad some points I just cant understand.

                                I lost myself too, as some of was written with a hint of sarcasm but still wound up being true in some areas.
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                                • abdab_1
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                                  #17
                                  Mate thing is the UK is forced to do as america wishes and it takes the piss.

                                  Theres a lot of good I like which you guys can do as you have the cash - mainly the space programe.

                                  As an outsider looking in I also wish that Clinton was still in power. Its nothing against BUsh he has had some tried and tested times since being elected, but is he really the best leader you have in your whole country?
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                                  • ToyBoys
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                                    #18
                                    hmmm interesting post

                                    I think that both countries have their advantages and are cool in there own way.


                                    For the most part Canadians are more relaxed and less violent but as a businessman I would rather work with americans because they are more aggressive and alot more money rolls through.....

                                    Bottom line, where I live I have no fear of not llocking my house door and no fear of getting shot or stabbed. worse thing that happens id getting your ass kicked. No one pulls guns and shoots (maybe bigger cities lol) but not where I am from and that is a safe feeling

                                    I would live in either country

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                                    • ADL Colin
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                                      • Feb 2001
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by abdab_1
                                      Mate thing is the UK is forced to do as america wishes and it takes the piss.
                                      How did the US MAKE the UK do anything?


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                                      • sperbonzo
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                                        #20
                                        Where IS Canada anyway? It's a country, right?






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                                        • JohnW
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                          Where IS Canada anyway? It's a country, right?






                                          Lol...Funny thing is, aren't there more Canadians living in Miami than Americans? Don't all the old people from Montreal and Toronto move down there when they retire?


                                          =)

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                                          • ADL Colin
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                                            • Feb 2001
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by JohnW


                                            Lol...Funny thing is, aren't there more Canadians living in Miami than Americans? Don't all the old people from Montreal and Toronto move down there when they retire?


                                            =)
                                            Hmmm .. I live in Miami and haven't met any Canadians. Lots of Cubans though.


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                                            • skillfull
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                                              #23
                                              blame usa
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                                              they aren't a real country anyway
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                                              • 12clicks
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                                                • Jan 2001
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by MrPopup
                                                http://www.post-gazette.com/columnis...0sam0730p1.asp

                                                You live next door to a clean-cut, quiet guy. He never plays loud music or throws raucous parties. He doesn't gossip over the fence, just smiles politely and offers you some tomatoes. His lawn is cared-for, his house is neat as a pin and you get the feeling he doesn't always lock his front door. He wears Dockers. You hardly know he's there.

                                                And then one day you discover that he has pot in his basement, spends his weekends at peace marches and that guy you've seen mowing the yard is his spouse.

                                                Allow me to introduce Canada.

                                                The Canadians are so quiet that you may have forgotten they're up there, but they've been busy doing some surprising things. It's like discovering that the mice you are dimly aware of in your attic have been building an espresso machine.

                                                Did you realize, for example, that our reliable little tag-along brother never joined the Coalition of the Willing? Canada wasn't willing, as it turns out, to join the fun in Iraq. I can only assume American diner menus weren't angrily changed to include "freedom bacon," because nobody here eats the stuff anyway.

                                                And then there's the wild drug situation: Canadian doctors are authorized to dispense medical marijuana. Parliament is considering legislation that would not exactly legalize marijuana possession, as you may have heard, but would reduce the penalty for possession of under 15 grams to a fine, like a speeding ticket. This is to allow law enforcement to concentrate resources on traffickers; if your garden is full of wasps, it's smarter to go for the nest rather than trying to swat every individual bug. Or, in the United States, bong.

                                                Now, here's the part that I, as an American, can't understand. These poor benighted pinkos are doing everything wrong. They have a drug problem: Marijuana offences have doubled since 1991. And Canada has strict gun control laws, which means that the criminals must all be heavily armed, the law-abiding civilians helpless and the government on the verge of a massive confiscation campaign. (The laws have been in place since the '70s, but I'm sure the government will get around to the confiscation eventually.)

                                                They don't even have a death penalty!

                                                And yet .. nationally, overall crime in Canada has been declining since 1991. Violent crimes fell 13 percent in 2002. Of course, there are still crimes committed with guns -- brought in from the United States, which has become the major illegal weapons supplier for all of North America -- but my theory is that the surge in pot-smoking has rendered most criminals too relaxed to commit violent crimes. They're probably more focused on shoplifting boxes of Ho-Hos from convenience stores.

                                                And then there's the most reckless move of all: Just last month, Canada decided to allow and recognize same-sex marriages. Merciful moose, what can they be thinking? Will there be married Mounties (they always get their man!)? Dudley Do-Right was sweet on Nell, not Mel! We must be the only ones who really care about families. Not enough to make sure they all have health insurance, of course, but more than those libertines up north.

                                                This sort of behaviour is a clear and present danger to all our stereotypes about Canada. It's supposed to be a cold, wholesome country of polite, beer-drinking hockey players, not founded by freedom-fighters in a bloody revolution but quietly assembled by loyalists and royalists more interested in order and good government than liberty and independence.

                                                But if we are the rugged individualists, why do we spend so much of our time trying to get everyone to march in lockstep? And if Canadians are so reserved and moderate, why are they so progressive about letting people do what they want to?

                                                Canadians are, as a nation, less religious than we are, according to polls. As a result, Canada's government isn't influenced by large, well-organized religious groups and thus has more in common with those of Scandinavia than those of the United States, or, say, Iran.

                                                Canada signed the Kyoto global warming treaty, lets 19-year-olds drink, has more of its population living in urban areas and accepts more immigrants per capita than the United States. These are all things we've been told will wreck our society. But I guess Canadians are different, because theirs seems oddly sound.

                                                Like teenagers, we fiercely idolize individual freedom but really demand that everyone be the same. But the Canadians seem more adult -- more secure. They aren't afraid of foreigners. They aren't afraid of homosexuality. Most of all, they're not afraid of each other.

                                                I wonder if America will ever be that cool.

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                                                • ADL Colin
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                                                  • Feb 2001
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by MrPopup

                                                  They don't even have a death penalty!

                                                  And yet .. nationally, overall crime in Canada has been declining since 1991. Violent crimes fell 13 percent in 2002.
                                                  That's interesting. US homicide rates peaked in 1991 and have steadily declined since then too. It is now at a 30 year low.

                                                  Violent crimes and property crimes are also at their lowest point since 1973.

                                                  Violent crimes are down more than 50% in just one decade.

                                                  I wonder what the age demographics look like for these countries.
                                                  Maybe less teens. Dunno. Haven't looked.


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