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  • Randy Andy
    Registered User
    • Feb 2003
    • 63
    #1

    To Fucking Cheating Russian Webmasters

    I run several tgp and accept gallery submissions. Today I check the stats on one site and see traffic is way down. I am at a loss as to why. So I check my galleries through my tgp script admin and they all seem fine. Then I check my galleries through my page and different story. Numerous galleries are redirecting to some toolbar installer popup. Whats worse the popup is on an endless loop and I have to ctrl-alt-del to close it. Of course this closes all my windows. When I do a whois on the cheating domains they are all registered to Russian webmasters. To my regret I had even given these guys partner status to submit galleries.
    Whenever I suspect someone is cheating me on a traffic trade, the whois almost always shows the webmaster is from Russia. When I am being cheated on gallery submissions they too are usually from Russia. Now I know why most Sponsors don't accept Russians. I am at the point where I don't want to trade or accept galleries from Russians anymore.
    The irony is that there is a ton of money to be made in this business honestly. Why the fuck cheat. You can make more money running honest business. In the end you are only fucking yourself. Eventually no one will do business with you.
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    • Netmax
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      • Jan 2003
      • 335
      #2
      Don't think, that all russian webmasters are cheaters! Most of all running honest business.

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        • Kapitan Ivanov
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          • May 2003
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          #3
          Viva La Russie !
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            • Randy Andy
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              • Feb 2003
              • 63
              #4
              Originally posted by Netmax
              Don't think, that all russian webmasters are cheaters! Most of all running honest business.
              I know not all Russian webmasters are cheaters. But why is that when I am being cheated it is usually a Russian

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                • Kapitan Ivanov
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                  • May 2003
                  • 1000
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Randy Andy

                  I know not all Russian webmasters are cheaters. But why is that when I am being cheated it is usually a Russian
                  Cos you've got no idea about security. Russians do.
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                    • Randy Andy
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 63
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Kapitan Ivanov
                      Cos you've got no idea about security. Russians do.
                      So what does that mean? Russians are entitled to cheat because they know about security?

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                        • Kapitan Ivanov
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                          • May 2003
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by Randy Andy

                          So what does that mean? Russians are entitled to cheat because they know about security?
                          No but if you open a mouse hole... you'll get mice.
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                            • Steve
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                              • Feb 2001
                              • 6894
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Kapitan Ivanov
                              Cos you've got no idea about security. Russians do.
                              Smart ass comments like that wont help pay the bills when all the comrades get banned for good. You can all laugh about our shitty security while you wait on a line 3 fucking days for toilet paper.

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                                • Randy Andy
                                  Registered User
                                  • Feb 2003
                                  • 63
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Kapitan Ivanov

                                  No but if you open a mouse hole... you'll get mice.
                                  Are you saying Russians are vermin like mice?

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                                    • Kapitan Ivanov
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                                      • May 2003
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                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Steve


                                      Smart ass comments like that wont help pay the bills when all the comrades get banned for good. You can all laugh about our shitty security while you wait on a line 3 fucking days for toilet paper.
                                      Ok...
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                                        • lil2rich4u2
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                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 11046
                                          #11
                                          HEY!!

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                                            • Kapitan Ivanov
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                                              • May 2003
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                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Randy Andy

                                              Are you saying Russians are vermin like mice?
                                              Yes. That. Is. Really. And. Trully. What. I. Am. Saying.

                                              Goot smart you iz, kewl too...
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                                                • SkyWalker
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                                                  • Jun 2003
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                                                  #13
                                                  cold war II
                                                  "You don't know the power of the Dark side!"

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                                                    • Kapitan Ivanov
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                                                      • May 2003
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                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by SkyWalker
                                                      cold war II
                                                      Isn't that a game by Microsoft?
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                                                        • greentea
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                                                          • Mar 2002
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Netmax
                                                          Don't think, that all russian webmasters are cheaters! Most of all running honest business.


                                                          98% of the russians are cheaters...
                                                          blunts

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                                                            • Nikolay
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                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 161
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by greentea

                                                              98% of the russians are cheaters...
                                                              Are you sure? One AWM/cheater can have million of EMails, use thousands of proxys and hundreds of addresses... And you can thing, that this is different peoples... Cheaters work like i say. Good webmasters have one EMail, one address and did not use proxy. And you think, that 500 Russian AWM are cheaters (really only one is cheater) and 5 - good webmasters... Sick...
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                                                                • Roach
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                                                                  • May 2001
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  98% of guys, who choose "greentea" screen name are gays.
                                                                  And 98% of americans are CP hosters.

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                                                                    • Nikolay
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                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                      • 161
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Randy Andy

                                                                      I know not all Russian webmasters are cheaters. But why is that when I am being cheated it is usually a Russian
                                                                      LOL!!! Why i received 5 letters with Russian SPAM and 500 EMails with SPAM from USA? ;-)
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                                                                        • greentea
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                                                                          • Mar 2002
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Roach
                                                                          98% of guys, who choose "greentea" screen name are gays.
                                                                          And 98% of americans are CP hosters.

                                                                          This coming from a typical russian scammer most likely..
                                                                          blunts

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                                                                            • Gimmy
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                                                                              • Jul 2002
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Steve


                                                                              Smart ass comments like that wont help pay the bills when all the comrades get banned for good. You can all laugh about our shitty security while you wait on a line 3 fucking days for toilet paper.
                                                                              Stupid idiot, that was almost 14 years ago. Now the toilet paper is delivered right to your home.

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                                                                                • Roach
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                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                  • 142
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by greentea



                                                                                  This coming from a typical russian scammer most likely..
                                                                                  Typical SCAT lover 8)
                                                                                  If i'm cheater, than prove it or put your head in your ass.
                                                                                  Last edited by Roach; 08-14-2003, 10:29 AM.

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                                                                                    • Dirty F
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                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                      • 59204
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Roach


                                                                                      Typical SCAT lover 8)
                                                                                      If i'm cheater, than pove it or put your head in your ass.

                                                                                      Ya man pove it to russian he not cheater

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                                                                                        • Chaldoray
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                                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                                          • 2868
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Make some fucking sense, Plus learn some fucking grammar you stupid immigrant

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                                                                                            • res
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                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                              • 1118
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Netmax
                                                                                              Don't think, that all russian webmasters are cheaters! Most of all running honest business.
                                                                                              You are wrong ! You should post - "Most of all running horned business."

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                                                                                                • foe
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                                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                                  • 5246
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Randy Andy

                                                                                                  So what does that mean? Russians are entitled to cheat because they know about security?
                                                                                                  He means you need scripts which check galleries better. Contact me i have something so that you will not need to ever check galleries. and will cut down on cheaters a lot at the same time

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                                                                                                    • clubsexy
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                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Chaldoray
                                                                                                      Make some fucking sense, Plus learn some fucking grammar you stupid immigrant
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                                                                                                        • Nikolay
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                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                                          • 161
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by res
                                                                                                          You are wrong ! You should post - "Most of all running horned business."
                                                                                                          WOW! Thanks for good words...

                                                                                                          I can say, that you're right... My friends never cheat... I know how i can cheat, but... I did not seen any reasons for make that. If you need serious business - you need work without cheating.
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                                                                                                            • Randy Andy
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                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                              • 63
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by foe


                                                                                                              He means you need scripts which check galleries better. Contact me i have something so that you will not need to ever check galleries. and will cut down on cheaters a lot at the same time
                                                                                                              You are probably right that I need scripts which check galleries better. But that misses the point of this post. There are far too many webmasters from Russia who cheat! Eventually they are caught. Eventually they are deleted, banned, blacklisted. Eventually they lose their traffic. In the long run they lose money by cheating. They can make a lot more money with honest business practices. Unfortunately, they can't understand this.

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                                                                                                                • eldominik
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                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  End this fucking topic.

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                                                                                                                    • Nikolay
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                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                      • 161
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Randy Andy
                                                                                                                      There are far too many webmasters from Russia who cheat!
                                                                                                                      You can find IDIOTS everywere... In the USA, Canada, Australia, Spain, Brazil, Russia, China... Each country have cheaters... LOL!!!
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                                                                                                                        • Randy Andy
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                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                          • 63
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Nikolay


                                                                                                                          You can find IDIOTS everywere... In the USA, Canada, Australia, Spain, Brazil, Russia, China... Each country have cheaters... LOL!!!
                                                                                                                          Yes you are right. I am sure that there are many honest Russian webmasters out there too. But about 80-90% of webmasters which I find cheating are from Russia. Its unfortunate because there are so many skilled and talented Russian webmasters and programmers. Unfortunately, the bad reputation earned by dishonest Russian webmasters can only make it more difficult for the honest ones to do business.

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                                                                                                                            • Shoplifter
                                                                                                                              Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                              • 5877
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Netmax
                                                                                                                              Don't think, that all russian webmasters are cheaters! Most of all running honest business.
                                                                                                                              Yes there may be one or two. I would recommend that you clear up the others who are all cheaters. Until then anything .ru is banned.
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                                                                                                                                • Nikolay
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                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 161
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Shoplifter
                                                                                                                                  Yes there may be one or two. I would recommend that you clear up the others who are all cheaters. Until then anything .ru is banned.
                                                                                                                                  Ok... BTW why American companies (like AllLiquids) can thieve money from non-cheating webmasters and did not pay for advertise? Why USA sponser can kick out Russian AWM's without any comments and just say: "Fucking cheater"? Sometime i think, that American companies like say: "Russian webmasters always cheat" because they love money...

                                                                                                                                  Somebody can say: "Yeah! Did not seen into our rules... We accept yourself!" and say: "Suck my dick, Russian motherfucker-cheater" when he must send $1000 and can not show any fraud transactions from this webmaster.

                                                                                                                                  Sick... :\
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                                                                                                                                    • deniska
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                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2001
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Chaldoray
                                                                                                                                      Make some fucking sense, Plus learn some fucking grammar you stupid immigrant

                                                                                                                                      How many languages do you know? If you live in russia how the fuck are you an immigrant? ...Tormaz

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                                                                                                                                        • Kapitan Ivanov
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                                                                                                                                          • May 2003
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          SHUT THE FUCK UP ALL OF YOU.
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                                                                                                                                            • DarkJedi
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                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 28301
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              shut down your TGP and you won't be cheated anymore.

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                                                                                                                                                • Nikolay
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                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 161
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                                                                                                                  shut down your TGP and you won't be cheated anymore.
                                                                                                                                                  Sounds like: "Close you business and you will not have any problems..."
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                                                                                                                                                    • wargames
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                                                                                                                                                      • May 2003
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      damn russians
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                                                                                                                                                        • vadme
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                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2003
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          damn americans
                                                                                                                                                          Use right words

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                                                                                                                                                            • Sly_RJ
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                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 17042
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Nikolay


                                                                                                                                                              Ok... BTW why American companies (like AllLiquids) can thieve money from non-cheating webmasters and did not pay for advertise?
                                                                                                                                                              Weren't they Russian?
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                                                                                                                                                                • stevecore
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                                                                                                                                  shut down your TGP and you won't be cheated anymore.
                                                                                                                                                                  it's easier to just ban every Russian Webmaster.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Nikolay
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                                                                                                                                                                      Weren't they Russian?
                                                                                                                                                                      USA address, USA phone, USA hosting, USA billing, English support... Are they Russian's?
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                                                                                                                                                                        • chowda
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                                                                                                                                                                          in russia, car drives you.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Nikolay
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by chowda
                                                                                                                                                                              in russia, car drives you.
                                                                                                                                                                              LOL! Did you talking about our roads?
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                                                                                                                                                                                • SKULL
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Randy Andy

                                                                                                                                                                                  I know not all Russian webmasters are cheaters. But why is that when I am being cheated it is usually a Russian
                                                                                                                                                                                  Same here dude.. Everytime I find a cheater 98% of the time is a russian or Eastern European webmaster...
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • SykkBoy2
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by greentea




                                                                                                                                                                                      98% of the russians are cheaters...
                                                                                                                                                                                      I always get it mixed up
                                                                                                                                                                                      I can never tell if 98% of russians are cheaters or 98% of cheaters are russian.....
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Sly_RJ
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Nikolay


                                                                                                                                                                                          USA address, USA phone, USA hosting, USA billing, English support... Are they Russian's?
                                                                                                                                                                                          It doesn't matter where they're located, I'm pretty sure they were Russian.
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • topal
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Most of cheaters are poor ppl.. and they want to get everything they dreamed in a short while.. they are trying to get in a nice point in biz.. most of them can't succeed.. and it makes them very brave to do whatever they can do... It is not about russia, eastern europe or something.. its all about poor ppl...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Nikolay
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                                                                                                                                                                                  It doesn't matter where they're located, I'm pretty sure they were Russian.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Why you're sure?
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Lane
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by topal
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Most of cheaters are poor ppl.. and they want to get everything they dreamed in a short while.. they are trying to get in a nice point in biz.. most of them can't succeed.. and it makes them very brave to do whatever they can do... It is not about russia, eastern europe or something.. its all about poor ppl...
                                                                                                                                                                                                      you are wrong, its the culture created by the corrupt government.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      they come from a place where laws dont mean shit. people do make money by cheating and fraud. mafia controls the businesses. honest people do not make money. they grow up seeing all this shit and what do you expect from them when they try to do business online?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      and its not only about businesses either.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      i had a russian friend in college, and i talked to her about this several times. she would tell me that students also cheat all the time. you would be called stupid if you didnt. and if you ever try to stop someone from copying from you, you might get your ass kicked badly.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      i would blame it on the corrupt government and juidical systems. it's very normal for the human nature to act like this if you grow up in such environment.

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