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08-12-2003, 07:42 AM

100 drunken teenagers

I don't think he deserves all the shit he's gotten. Yeah its not a good idea, but its his business, his life, and his freedom. Pretending he's gonna bring down the industry if he gets busted as a justification for the self righteous crap is ridiculous.
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08-12-2003, 07:44 AM

101 and good morning
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08-12-2003, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by Gutterboy

I understand that. I wasn't talking about a content producing situation in my last post, just the rape crap. Believe me, I don't think what he did is a good idea. Just looking for some clarification on the legal issues. Had no idea for instance that she had to sign the release *after* the shoot.

Yeah imagine what a nightmare that would be in that situation if the girl changed her mind when she sobers up!

His statement about the release forms in itself is disturbing.

We saw what happened to girls gone wild...
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08-12-2003, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday
101 and good morning

haha, heya. Haven't been to bed yet..
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08-12-2003, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by Dax
It is not legal to shoot a girl while she is drunk or high or under prescription drugs.

She can come back to you and say that she was drunk or high when she signed the release and you are FUCKED!

Specially when u admit it on a public forum!

Yes, it's called "Duress" and it completely nullifies any legal documents (such as model releases) that have been signed.

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08-12-2003, 07:48 AM

But honestly, I really don't think many girls pose nude totally sober anyhow. I would assume only the most professional adult models do so, or when working for very professional companies. Even then.

I've scheduled talent before, and like 75% are always stoned at least. Its the level of professionalism that is lacking here.

then again that is here in los angeles porno land
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08-12-2003, 07:54 AM

Originally posted by cherrylula
But honestly, I really don't think many girls pose nude totally sober anyhow. I would assume only the most professional adult models do so, or when working for very professional companies. Even then.

I've scheduled talent before, and like 75% are always stoned at least. Its the level of professionalism that is lacking here.

then again that is here in los angeles porno land

hey now.. i pose sober.. then i get lit up like a motherfucker cause i am aching from holding all those fucked up arched back poses..ugh
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08-12-2003, 07:54 AM

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haha, heya. Haven't been to bed yet..

YOU ARE GETTING SLEEPY....SO SLEEPY..
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08-12-2003, 07:55 AM

Originally posted by cherrylula
But honestly, I really don't think many girls pose nude totally sober anyhow. I would assume only the most professional adult models do so, or when working for very professional companies. Even then.

I've scheduled talent before, and like 75% are always stoned at least. Its the level of professionalism that is lacking here.

then again that is here in los angeles porno land

Thank you....

if she was high, she did it on her own time...

i stage all my shit now... your fuckers probably think the bang bus is real... i mean fuck they say it is.... or how about captain stabbin....

oh and fletch... you think i'm a perve cuz i shot a 18 year old... LOL... whatever... she smoked no weed and drank no alcohol while she was over at my buddies pad. I said that i got her drunk and high for the same reason bangbus claims they are real.

I was just fucking around, bottom line is that i run a tight operation... alot of people will attest to that.... half the people posting in this thread are friends of mine that i told about the thread, and started fucking around too... the other half of you, are taking this shit way to seriously.....

That includes you fletch... mr ganja saurus king of hawaii....

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08-12-2003, 07:57 AM

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no... but that's the look... she actually smoked these 'herbs' in the pipe (legal herbs sold at a hed shop)... and she didn't drink... but that's the story that i'm gonna stick to with my members

Nice cover story.

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08-12-2003, 07:58 AM

Sure thing buddy.

yeah yeah yeah - we have all seen kids get busted stealing candy in the store, we know how they back track, too bad it isnt real life, i bet youre studdering. hahaha

So youre buddy got her HIGH at HIS house then brought her to yours. Either way, loaded during your shoot.

I dont really care, its your business.

Just quit trying to fucking lie about it, you look completely retarded, and no one believes you.

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08-12-2003, 08:00 AM

Respecting a model's privacy is not taking things too seriously.

If half the people posting in this thread are your friends, you need to find some new friends who won't help you dig your own grave.
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08-12-2003, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by necoeds

Thank you....

if she was high, she did it on her own time...

i stage all my shit now... your fuckers probably think the bang bus is real... i mean fuck they say it is.... or how about captain stabbin....

oh and fletch... you think i'm a perve cuz i shot a 18 year old... LOL... whatever... she smoked no weed and drank no alcohol while she was over at my buddies pad. I said that i got her drunk and high for the same reason bangbus claims they are real.

I was just fucking around, bottom line is that i run a tight operation... alot of people will attest to that.... half the people posting in this thread are friends of mine that i told about the thread, and started fucking around too... the other half of you, are taking this shit way to seriously.....

That includes you fletch... mr ganja saurus king of hawaii....

oh yeah, we all think bang bus is real....wake up ..and clean your room...
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08-12-2003, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by necoeds

oh and fletch... you think i'm a perve cuz i shot a 18 year old... LOL... whatever... she smoked no weed and drank no alcohol while she was over at my buddies pad. I said that i got her drunk and high for the same reason bangbus claims they are real.

Did I say you were a perv?

No i said you were a fucking idiot for getting a 18 year old drunk and stoned then shooting pictures of her.

Please try to read.

Oh and im not in Hawaii, which proves my 'fucking idiot' post even more.

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08-12-2003, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by necoeds
I said that i got her drunk and high for the same reason bangbus claims they are real.

Kindly show me one thread where anybody from BangBus posted to an adult webmaster board and claimed that their site was real.

Say that shit to your members if you like but posting it here is bullshit.

cherrylula, That may be how some content people do things but for you to make a blanket statement that most models/shooters allow this shit is unfair at best. I have shot in LA and somebody did offer one model some pot. I shut the shoot down then and there.

People who allow these activities to go on are obviously not concerned with how they run their businesses.

If a model wants to smoke crack at home after a shoot...That's her business but what she does just before and during the shoot is mine.
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08-12-2003, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Did I say you were a perv?

No i said you were a fucking idiot for getting a 18 year old drunk and stoned then shooting pictures of her.

Please try to read.

Oh and im not in Hawaii, which proves my 'fucking idiot' post even more.

what, your not in Hawaii!!!!.. now i am going to have to do a chargeback on those plane tickets.... fuck!
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08-12-2003, 08:07 AM

Fletch...Turn on ICQ.
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08-12-2003, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by Carrie
Respecting a model's privacy is not taking things too seriously.

If half the people posting in this thread are your friends, you need to find some new friends who won't help you dig your own grave.

Respecting a model's privacy and covering one's own ass are definitely not in the same realm hehe. I know what you mean. I know for myself though, my girls are always 100% straight and I don't allow drugs or alcohol on location to any of my shoots. Working with drunk or stoned girls for the most part is counter productive either way, and I always felt that if a girl needed drugs or alcohol to get the guts to get naked, I didn' tneed her posing for me. Those are the type that come back and cause trouble later on I'm pretty straight laced though, and I am obsessive about the law

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08-12-2003, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by AaronM

Kindly show me one thread where anybody from BangBus posted to an adult webmaster board and claimed that their site was real.

Say that shit to your members if you like but posting it here is bullshit.

cherrylula, That may be how some content people do things but for you to make a blanket statement that most models/shooters allow this shit is unfair at best. I have shot in LA and somebody did offer one model some pot. I shut the shoot down then and there.

People who allow these activities to go on are obviously not concerned with how they run their businesses.

If a model wants to smoke crack at home after a shoot...That's her business but what she does just before and during the shoot is mine.

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08-12-2003, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by AaronM

cherrylula, That may be how some content people do things but for you to make a blanket statement that most models/shooters allow this shit is unfair at best. I have shot in LA and somebody did offer one model some pot. I shut the shoot down then and there.

Just an opinion based on my experience and does not apply to everyone... in addition to all the stoners here in general. Porn star stoners.

Actually I've smoked pot on sets with porn stars...

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08-12-2003, 08:13 AM

Ive been on hundrds of porn movie shoots, a lot of time the girls and guys huddle for a herb break sometimes during the shoot.

Not saying its right or wrong, but it does happen.

to deny that is ignorant.

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08-12-2003, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by necoeds

Dude i know the deal.... no worries here.... I've been doing this shit for years now... i know how to do it

You deserve everything you get. Enjoy prison life.

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08-12-2003, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Ive been on hundrds of porn movie shoots, a lot of time the girls and guys huddle for a herb break sometimes during the shoot.

Not saying its right or wrong, but it does happen.

to deny that is ignorant.

It does not happen on my shoots. It is not ignorance, it is common sense.
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08-12-2003, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by necoeds

I'm here in lincoln, NE so is Z.... she works at runza on 33rd and highway 2

Further evidence that this guy is retarded.

Now he is giving personal information away about his models.

These are the types that need to be cleaned from the industry.

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08-12-2003, 08:20 AM

Originally posted by AaronM

It does not happen on my shoots. It is not ignorance, it is common sense.

Dont blame me, I was never in a position to 'shut the shoot' down.

I can understand your position, and you sound legit. and I agree with you. Im just saying, I worked in the film side of this indistry for years before being a webmaster, during that time, Ive seen many things.

And again NOT SAYING RIGHT OR WRONG, but it DOES happen.

I am against models doing it, but I cant sit back and play like I never seen it.

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08-12-2003, 08:20 AM

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Further evidence that this guy is retarded.

Now he is giving personal information away about his models.

These are the types that need to be cleaned from the industry.

actually made that up... just to get a rise out of all you last night... i told ztik last night on icq where she really works....

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08-12-2003, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Ive been on hundrds of porn movie shoots, a lot of time the girls and guys huddle for a herb break sometimes during the shoot.

Not saying its right or wrong, but it does happen.

to deny that is ignorant.

3 out of the past 5 models I have shot with have asked me if it's ok if they get high before or during the shoot. I have them on camera asking me that, all 3 of them.

I think I will have no trouble from them, most of the porn chicks are pot heads. Most of them do worse then that too.

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08-12-2003, 08:22 AM

Damn. I have so much work to do and it is going to take at least 30 minutes to point out all the idiocy in this thread.

Let's start with "Captain Tightship".

In another brilliant moment of clarity, Captain Tightship posts on his site:

This chick was drunk as fuck! So we took advantage of the situation... Told her that we'd pay her 50 bones to come back over to the pad and "perform" for us ;-)

Turns out... Tiffany is 19 years old! And is from Hastings, Nebraska! Pictures and video of our fun added to the member's section!

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So, not only does he admit he knows that she is "drunk as fuck", Captain Tightship, in his infinite wisdom, decides to post pictures of the 19 year old getting drunker.

Nice job.
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08-12-2003, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by clubsexy

3 out of the past 5 models I have shot with have asked me if it's ok if they get high before or during the shoot. I have them on camera asking me that, all 3 of them.

I think I will have no trouble from them, most of the porn chicks are pot heads. Most of them do worse then that too.

Brilliant move. Pure genius filming them asking that question. The toilet paper I used to wipe my ass this morning is worth more than the model releases from those shoots.

And I had chilli last night too.
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08-12-2003, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Dont blame me, I was never in a position to 'shut the shoot' down.

I can understand your position, and you sound legit. and I agree with you. Im just saying, I worked in the film side of this indistry for years before being a webmaster, during that time, Ive seen many things.

And again NOT SAYING RIGHT OR WRONG, but it DOES happen.

I am against models doing it, but I cant sit back and play like I never seen it.

you know fletch, i know you're legit, i'm legit too, i also know girls come in stoned... which i'm sure you know too.... for the record though... it was a pipe with some herbal shit i got a the local hed shop... not weed... and she never had any beer.... (while i was around).... this shit has gotten out of fucking control... that's the last time i try to start shit to get the gfy on a different subject (as i said before, i started all this shit because i was drunk, 2am, and i was tired of seeing 30 threads about sobegirl on the main page)

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08-12-2003, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Ive been on hundrds of porn movie shoots, a lot of time the girls and guys huddle for a herb break sometimes during the shoot.

Not saying its right or wrong, but it does happen.

to deny that is ignorant.

It is wrong.

You are stupid to allow it.
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08-12-2003, 08:28 AM

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It is wrong.

You are stupid to allow it.

I did not allow anything.

My employer did ;)

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08-12-2003, 08:28 AM

this is a bad thing for necoeds....maybe an error in judgement and the backtracking exposes him even more.

Not a good idea.

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08-12-2003, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by necoeds

That's actually a good question... bottom line, you need to have her sign the release AFTER the shoot and she has to be sober... i always have a 3rd party witness... i've dealt with pleanty of this shit before...

Another pearl of wisdom from Captain Tightship.

You have the model sign the release after the shoot and they have to be sober???

Wrong.

They sign the release BEFORE the shoot. The release should disclose compensation for the shoot and what exactly they are expected to do. You also do the 2257 work at that time.

You PAY them after the shoot. The release is not valid until they are paid. No consideration, no validity.

Your tight ship has sprung a huge leak.
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08-12-2003, 08:30 AM

she's pretty

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08-12-2003, 08:30 AM

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08-12-2003, 08:31 AM

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I did not allow anything.

My employer did ;)

Then they are stupid to allow it and you might want to consider in the future if you want to be a part of it.
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08-12-2003, 08:34 AM

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Then they are stupid to allow it and you might want to consider in the future if you want to be a part of it.

I havent had an employer in years.

This was years ago JMM.

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08-12-2003, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by JMM
Damn. I have so much work to do and it is going to take at least 30 minutes to point out all the idiocy in this thread.

Let's start with "Captain Tightship".

In another brilliant moment of clarity, Captain Tightship posts on his site:

This chick was drunk as fuck! So we took advantage of the situation... Told her that we'd pay her 50 bones to come back over to the pad and "perform" for us ;-)

Turns out... Tiffany is 19 years old! And is from Hastings, Nebraska! Pictures and video of our fun added to the member's section!

<img src=http://www.nebraskacoeds.com/main_files/tiffany4.jpg>

<img src=http://www.nebraskacoeds.com/main_files/tiffany3.jpg>

So, not only does he admit he knows that she is "drunk as fuck", Captain Tightship, in his infinite wisdom, decides to post pictures of the 19 year old getting drunker.

Nice job.

JMM don't know who you are... but you didn't look very close at those pics... the bottles are empty... i keep empty bottles, all washed out for shoots... it's all staged... but i can't go telling my member's its staged now can i

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08-12-2003, 08:36 AM

ALso, if you want larger pics of those bottles to see that they are empty... will do... just let me know

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08-12-2003, 08:37 AM

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JMM don't know who you are... but you didn't look very close at those pics... the bottles are empty... i keep empty bottles, all washed out for shoots... it's all staged... but i can't go telling my member's its staged now can i

Tell the judge. You have jeopardized anyone who has purchased content from you.

You dont actually think your career is going anywhere now is it?

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"The bottles were empty"

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Sorry dude, you fucked up mega on this one.

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08-12-2003, 08:38 AM

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I havent had an employer in years.

This was years ago JMM.

;)

Good....then you were smart by getting away from it. I bet you are infintiely more successful now than the idiot you worked for.
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08-12-2003, 08:38 AM

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Tell the judge. You have jeopardized anyone who has purchased content from you.

I don't sell content illuminati...

except for spring break shit once in a while

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08-12-2003, 08:39 AM

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That includes you fletch... mr ganja saurus king of hawaii....

Where do I come in to all of this????

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08-12-2003, 08:40 AM

Not a very smart guy, the "necoeds" dude, is he? First, he posts pics of "just 18 girl", and mentions that he got her high and drunk. Then he retracts his statements, saying it was all staged, and that he was trying get a rise out of us all...whatever.

And then he says he's been in the business for a long time, and runs a tight ship.

Ummmm...take a look at where he shoots his "content"...his buddy's basement. Add to that, it looks like he's shooting pics with a $100.00 digital camera and probably filming with a $500 Hi 8 camcorder...Anyone want to do business with this "pro"?

People like this shouldn't be in the business, never attempt to get into the business, or even be allowed to post on adult industry message boards...

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08-12-2003, 08:42 AM

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JMM don't know who you are... but you didn't look very close at those pics... the bottles are empty... i keep empty bottles, all washed out for shoots... it's all staged... but i can't go telling my member's its staged now can i

I know you don't know who I am, we run in different circles. I don't associate with idiots.
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08-12-2003, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Oh and im not in Hawaii, which proves my 'fucking idiot' post even more.

Gawd... He's mixing u, amp & me together. wtf.

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Illuminati

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#148

08-12-2003, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by necoeds

I don't sell content illuminati...

except for spring break shit once in a while

First off, if you had a lick of sense you would shut the fuck up until talking to your lawyer.

Second off....if your doing this with a JUST 18 year old as you proudly say, there is a suspicion that you've likely done it before.
Your lack of proper procedure when it comes to SIGNING model releases indicates your age checking is likely a problem.

This is going to get you in a lot of trouble. Your friends too considering you used his premises....bet his parents will be happy when they get the knock on the door...

You didnt think about this one very much and let greed, ignorance, and disrespect for others get in the way.

You have brought what may likely be some very nasty attention onto the business yet again.

Your actions have reflected poorly on the entire webmaster community.

Last edited by Illuminati; 08-12-2003, 08:45 AM.

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08-12-2003, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by necoeds

JMM don't know who you are... but you didn't look very close at those pics... the bottles are empty... i keep empty bottles, all washed out for shoots... it's all staged... but i can't go telling my member's its staged now can i

Great logo Captain Tightship:

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08-12-2003, 08:55 AM

Originally posted by JMM

Great logo Captain Tightship:

<img src=http://www.nebraskacoeds.com/logo2.gif>

How many members of law enforcement use this board and how will this unravel do you think?

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