The Episcopalian church just appointed their first openly gay bishop. Do you think this is good or bad?
What do you think of the gay bishop?
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I think its bullshit and this church will suffer a big drop in membership because of it
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Originally posted by Lenny2
I think its bullshit and this church will suffer a big drop in membership because of it
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I didn't say it bothered meOriginally posted by xxxdesign-net
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I haven't put alot of thought into it...but off hand I would suspect that it will splinter the church...and in addition I wonder if they are using a "redacted" bible?Originally posted by Lenny2
The Episcopalian church just appointed their first openly gay bishop. Do you think this is good or bad?When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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I guess as long as he is gay its cool...
now a gay pedo...he is in the wrong church...hehe
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I think the whole ordeal is silly.
You have a million different groups; catholics, christians, episcopal, presbyterian, lutheran and countless others; all with different interpretations of the same book, and apparently the appeal to the same god. Something isn't right, and it isn't that the bishop is a homo.Xanadu024 (aim) or 286785389 (icq)
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Its a joke, it goes against everything the bible teaches. But then again the catholics let all the pagan stuff in back in the roman ages. Christmas and Easter etc are pagan festivials with nothing based on the bible.
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Funny how everyone is reading the bible in a different way...First women shouldn't work(was in the bible) now then can(it's in the bible)Originally posted by Driven
Its a joke, it goes against everything the bible teaches.
And don't forget the bible was written LONG LONG time ago....Funny how modern ppl, still follow rules written in an ancient time...I just learned be good for eachother, and you will be fine
NO matter if you are gay/hetero or whatever....
I think it's better to be gay, and don't follow the bible, but just be a "good" person, then follow the bible, killing thousands of people who don't beleive what you believe....Just my 2 cents
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Where will it stop? With time they will no doubt allow gays to marry, than what? Do you think they will be happy, or do you think the faggots will still bitch about 'discrimination'?
I will tell you where it will stop. It will stop ONLY when homosexual relations are seen as equally normal as hetrosexual relations.
What does that mean? It means that children will soon be taught how to fuck a man up the ass, it means that men kissing in public will be seen as normal, it means our society will become degenerate!
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see the church split over female ministers,
now its split again over gay ones,
oh well they only got a quater left,Comment
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Female minister, gay minister...Originally posted by imJason
see the church split over female ministers,
now its split again over gay ones,
oh well they only got a quater left,
One in the same no?
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I think it is hilarious.
I also like "inter-faith" councils and such.
I don't agree with southern baptists etc.. and think quite a few are a bit crazy.
However, they will tell you to your face you are a sinner, and damned to hell if you don't change your ways.
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The Christian Church has always had gay clergy. There have been gay priests, cardinals, popes, etc many times in the past. The only thing that's unusual about this is that the Bishop is openly gay. Churches are more interested in appearance than substance. Even to the point that they've tolerated pedaphiles provided that appearances are maintained!
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Groove - you're so right! how many books have i seen on the shelves of bookstores over the years that are confessions of guilt-ridden gay priests and nuns?
it's silly and unrealistic for the church to pretend that the world is the way they want it. organized religion has always had this weird worldview that allows no compromise but allows for a completely unloving and judgemental view of people - even though the bible tells us not to judge.
for goodness' sake, 1 out of 10 people are gay - and about 1 out of 2 are women. and so many "straight" priests have molested children or taken advantage of women by virtue only of their place in the church yet they are not immediately cast out, nor were their many victims believed for years and years.
i think it's a good thing that people within the church are gay openly, but SO difficult for individuals. it is only a start to a process that will take unfortunately generations, but there have always been gay people and there always will be. and since they ARE people, it's time to think of them that way and include them in our lives.
in the bible, jesus felt that love was very important, but i sure don't see a lot of that in church doctrine :-( if we saw more of it, it would color our daily lives with acceptance - even those of us who don't accept organized religion.Last edited by basschick; 08-06-2003, 05:26 AM.Comment
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Why Sarah?Originally posted by sarah_webinc
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I never claimed to believe in the bible, nor did I ever say the bible was right or wrong on any given issue.
I'm simply pointing out that for a religion that is based on the bible, its rather odd to appoint a leader whose lifestyle openly contradicts what the bible teaches.
Both the old and new testaments condemn homosexuality.sig too bigComment
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I think people need to stop making an issue over someone who prefers being with the same sex.
To each his own. They should enjoy equal rights like everyone else.
As long as he, or someone in a position of power over children, doesn't start touching kids and stuff. That's where you have to draw the line an say their sexual orientation is affecting others.
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I think it's great just because I'm sure it's pissing off loads of christians right now because their perfect world is crumbling before them.I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
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I have no issues whatsoever with homosexuals. I'm 100% for equal rights, I'm a live and let live kind of guy.Originally posted by KRL
I think people need to stop making an issue over someone who prefers being with the same sex.
To each his own. They should enjoy equal rights like everyone else.
As long as he, or someone in a position of power over children, doesn't start touching kids and stuff. That's where you have to draw the line an say their sexual orientation is affecting others.
I just think its hypocritical for a religion that claims to be based on the bible, a book which condemns homosexuality, to appoint a leader who is openly homosexual.sig too bigComment
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I'm not saying that it does not exist...Originally posted by Lenny2
I just think its hypocritical for a religion that claims to be based on the bible, a book which condemns homosexuality, to appoint a leader who is openly homosexual.
But can anyone offer a quote from Jesus condemning homosexuality?
The rest of the Bible is just the Church (and whoever else had sway at the time that the Bible was written and then rewritten and then rewritten again) saying what they "think" is the gospel from God (or politically expedient). Plus of course it is HIGHLY questionable how accurately Jesus's gospel was recorded. So the fact is that anyone who takes the Bible literally is a total fucking moron. And anyone who thinks the Church represents God deserves to be ass-fucked 'cause they were certainly asking for it!
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"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.Originally posted by Groove
I'm not saying that it does not exist...
But can anyone offer a quote from Jesus condemning homosexuality?
For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. " (Matthew 5:17)
Obviously he would have been in favor of Leviticus 20:13
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Im going to bed now.Last edited by [Labret]; 08-06-2003, 07:45 AM.Comment
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Sorry, you lost me...Originally posted by [Labret]
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. " (Matthew 5:17)
Obviously he would have been in favor of Leviticus 20:13
owned.
Im going to bed now.
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I think it's hypocrite, gays are everywhere, also in church. This one admitted he is gay, all others are "hidden" gays....Originally posted by blazin
Personally I have nothing against gays, whatever floats their boat...... BUT gay priests is taking things a bit too far..
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It doesn't matter what YOU think the bible is. The doctrine of the church is that the bible is the word of god. The bible condemns homosexuality.Originally posted by Groove
The rest of the Bible is just the Church (and whoever else had sway at the time that the Bible was written and then rewritten and then rewritten again) saying what they "think" is the gospel from God (or politically expedient). Plus of course it is HIGHLY questionable how accurately Jesus's gospel was recorded. So the fact is that anyone who takes the Bible literally is a total fucking moron. And anyone who thinks the Church represents God deserves to be ass-fucked 'cause they were certainly asking for it!
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I don't think the church should have an obligation to allow gay/female ministers... this country was founded on the basis of religous freedom as long as it is separate from the government.
Under law, the church can't take away a gay ministers rights, but they should be allowed to say who is allowed in their special "club".
If you don't like it, then join a different club.
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it's a shock that's for sure. well maybe not that much of a shock. if it was the catholic church i would have fallen out of my seat. but i'm gonna drop all board for a second just to say....
he's gay. who cares?
as long as he is a good person and does his job i really don't see anything wrong with it at all.
ok, now back to being a dickhead.Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.Comment
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Originally posted by Odin88
Where will it stop? With time they will no doubt allow gays to marry, than what? Do you think they will be happy, or do you think the faggots will still bitch about 'discrimination'?
I will tell you where it will stop. It will stop ONLY when homosexual relations are seen as equally normal as hetrosexual relations.
What does that mean? It means that children will soon be taught how to fuck a man up the ass, it means that men kissing in public will be seen as normal, it means our society will become degenerate!
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Our society will BECOME degenerate? What is it now..crystal pure!
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Except the church did not split over female ministers. That was the prediction back then, but it just never happened.Originally posted by imJason
see the church split over female ministers,
now its split again over gay ones,
oh well they only got a quater left,
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Except Christ also said "I am the NEW Testament", basically pushing the old testament out the door.Originally posted by [Labret]
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. " (Matthew 5:17)
Obviously he would have been in favor of Leviticus 20:13
owned.
Im going to bed now.
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Yep, Gays are indeed everywhere. But teaching the Word of God when they ain't living it just ain't rightOriginally posted by justsexxx
I think it's hypocrite, gays are everywhere, also in church. This one admitted he is gay, all others are "hidden" gays....
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I don't endorse a god damn thing......
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