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  • $hurik
    Confirmed User
    • May 2003
    • 853

    #1

    Found a company using our design to promote affiliate (EXPO)

    How similar are the 2 designs?

    1)
    http://www.resident2000.com/gfy/liquid.jpg

    2)
    http://www.resident2000.com/gfy/xpass.jpg


    While I was on the show I found a booth which promoted XPASS affiliate program.

    The first design is copyrighted; it was made by our designers? crew. I asked a guy who represented XPAYS if they would be interested in paying us 1k (funny prize) in return for our permission to use the design (flash intro, psd?s, etc).
    He responded that they are not going to pay ? cause the original site is not up (as you all know LWI is out of business).

    But still this design can be sold.

    So my question is - should we shut down their site using the copyright law?
    1st Original Design Design used by another company to promote affiliate
  • afrocreep
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2001
    • 1074

    #2
    then about 10000 other sites with the same design as yours can shut down your site too?

    its a pretty common layout these days

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    • Matt_WildCash
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2003
      • 1699

      #3
      WTF? That IS NOT copyright infringement dude. 100% all orginial graphics, there design KICKSASS while yours is not nearly the same professional quality. Copyright infringement usually means they take something kickass and make some botched up copy thats not as good.

      Xpays design is not an exact copy of yours, if has different design elements and you'd be laughed at for trying to enforce a copyright infringement when there has been none.

      The part where you say to the ISP hosting Xpays

      "Oh no none of the graphics design of xpays is from my site but look how similiar site 1 is to site 2. Notice the purple, they clearly copied my purple and I want them shut down"


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      • afrocreep
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2001
        • 1074

        #4
        i like how Driven put it

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        • Serge Litehead
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2002
          • 5190

          #5
          Second design completely different from LWI's one, the case doesn't stand a chance, it doesn't have any stollen element from the first example, i don't beleive you can sue someone for the same table width or bgcolor if that's the case

          Can you get away selling liquid design? Is it not intellectual property of lwi, regardless their current situation?

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          • 12clicks
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jan 2001
            • 19814

            #6
            AND, it looks like you stole the colors from the badge cards belonging to Topbucks.
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            • Rich
              So Fucking Banned
              • Jan 2003
              • 11486

              #7
              They look totally different to me, besides the layout I've seen 50 other times.

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              • Webby
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Oct 2002
                • 14956

                #8
                Driven:

                Thats funny!

                We be having copyright on thinking next
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                • gothweb
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 8849

                  #9
                  Not. The. Same.

                  Edit: Though I wonder how Apple Legal would feel about your blatant ripoff of Aqua buttons?

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                  • $hurik
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2003
                    • 853

                    #10
                    If the guy would use this design for anything else but not an affiliate program ? it?s ok with me. But using the similar design for the same product ...
                    I talked with people on a floor while we were exhibiting ? they said that this design is way too close.

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                    • DrewKole
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 5193

                      #11
                      lol, I think not..

                      You've gotta somehow be related to Froey_Two, because there can't be 2 people that fuckin retarded, in this industry, in NY.

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                      • Zer0
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 16

                        #12
                        The look totally different. There's only a few layouts that really work these days... and well you can't copyright a layout... it's like saying... "I own the rights to turtleneck's, so you have to pay me royalties from each sale"

                        The only thing that you'd even have a remote case in would be if they were stupid enough to use the same images and text, which I've seen a number of times... straight rips where the idiot was contacted by the original owner and threatened with legal action. The site was gone pretty quick...

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                        • Jon2
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Aug 2001
                          • 2875

                          #13
                          Different designs...Similar colors...

                          They are not using your design...

                          Jon

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                          • Cyberbum
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 8

                            #14
                            You must be joking... same colours but other than that they are completely different

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                            • Thrawn$
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2002
                              • 4596

                              #15

                              thoose design doesn't look alike
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                              • Amputate Your Head
                                There can be only one
                                • Aug 2001
                                • 39075

                                #16
                                Originally posted by $hurik
                                If the guy would use this design for anything else but not an affiliate program ? it?s ok with me. But using the similar design for the same product ...
                                I talked with people on a floor while we were exhibiting ? they said that this design is way too close.
                                ease up off the crack pipe....

                                ok with you or not, you have no case.
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                                • zzgundamnzz
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2002
                                  • 6102

                                  #17
                                  They look nothing alike


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                                  • jimmyf
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                                    • Feb 2001
                                    • 12651

                                    #18
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                                    • pudcat
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                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 1169

                                      #19
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                                      • juicylinks
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Apr 2001
                                        • 122992

                                        #20

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                                        • Gutterboy
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Jul 2002
                                          • 4751

                                          #21
                                          Heeellllllooooooo McFly! Using the same COLOR SCHEME is not the same as copying the DESIGN.

                                          Have you copyrighted blue & purple with white text or something? lol

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                                          • Biggy2
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2002
                                            • 1821

                                            #22
                                            I heard XPASS actually pays its affiliates

                                            (sorry, i couldn't resist )

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                                            • SomeCreep
                                              :glugglug
                                              • Mar 2003
                                              • 26118

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by $hurik
                                              How similar are the 2 designs?

                                              1)
                                              http://www.resident2000.com/gfy/liquid.jpg

                                              2)
                                              http://www.resident2000.com/gfy/xpass.jpg


                                              While I was on the show I found a booth which promoted XPASS affiliate program.

                                              The first design is copyrighted; it was made by our designers? crew. I asked a guy who represented XPAYS if they would be interested in paying us 1k (funny prize) in return for our permission to use the design (flash intro, psd?s, etc).
                                              He responded that they are not going to pay ? cause the original site is not up (as you all know LWI is out of business).

                                              But still this design can be sold.

                                              So my question is - should we shut down their site using the copyright law?
                                              1st Original Design Design used by another company to promote affiliate
                                              I'm no lawyer, but I doubt you'd win in court. Yes, there is a resemblance, but the other desgin is different enough to not be considered copyright theft.

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                                              • arial
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2002
                                                • 4012

                                                #24
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                                                • Herb Kornfield
                                                  Is on the 1
                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                  • 4996

                                                  #25
                                                  They are in no way similar Shurik.

                                                  There are some colors from the same general family, but, those are just colors, not picure content / text content / etc.

                                                  Why bring up All Liquid....its a dead issue I thought

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                                                  • Mr.Fiction
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                    • 9484

                                                    #26
                                                    Please link to a couple of cases where anyone has ever won a lawsuit over the theft of the look of a webpage.

                                                    Yahoo would have sued many people years ago if it was possible to win.
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                                                    • Gutterboy
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                      • 4751

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                      Yahoo would have sued many people years ago if it was possible to win.
                                                      Those bastards stole my blue text on white background design!

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                                                      • chodadog
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Apr 2002
                                                        • 9736

                                                        #28
                                                        Is this a joke? Same colours, yes. Similar layout, yes, like about 50 other affiliate programs. Copyright infringement? No.
                                                        26 + 6 = 1

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                                                        • rooster
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                          • 2384

                                                          #29
                                                          i think stealing layout is a pretty big deal. What if you came up with a real good tgp design or something and someone copied the same exact layout but used different colors and graphics. Id be pissed.
                                                          Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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                                                          • jonesy
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                            • 6688

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Driven
                                                            Copyright infringement usually means they take something kickass and make some botched up copy thats not as good.
                                                            quality has nothing to do with copywrite infringement.

                                                            it has to do with not having the proper permission to use images or trademarks

                                                            and

                                                            replicating images or trademarks and or using them in a way that the general public would be confused between the original and the copy

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                                                            • WebTitan
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                              • 5114

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by $hurik
                                                              If the guy would use this design for anything else but not an affiliate program ? it?s ok with me. But using the similar design for the same product ...
                                                              I talked with people on a floor while we were exhibiting ? they said that this design is way too close.
                                                              DUDE! i am the guy you talked to on the floor...i did say it was similar in color, AND told you our design was done and it was MONTHS before you said that yours was even put online...and THEN you told us this could all go away if we gave you $1000...hmmm....bit suspisious if you ask me...not acussing YOU of anything...just VERY suspisious...

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                                                              • Theo
                                                                HAL 9000
                                                                • May 2001
                                                                • 34515

                                                                #32
                                                                different designs

                                                                get a life

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                                                                • playa
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                  • 6432

                                                                  #33
                                                                  you can't be serious,, i don't see anything similar other than where the login box is and the color scheme

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                                                                  • Ray@TastyDollars
                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                    • 6797

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Biggy2
                                                                    I heard XPASS actually pays its affiliates

                                                                    (sorry, i couldn't resist )

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                                                                    • lamrobertson
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                      • 475

                                                                      #35
                                                                      lol our new site design is the same colors! Gallery Gang

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                                                                      • WebTitan
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                        • 5114

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by lamrobertson
                                                                        lol our new site design is the same colors! Gallery Gang
                                                                        if you pay them $1000 dollars then will leave you alone and you can use that blue color....


                                                                        FYI...just a joke...sounds a bit silly saying out load does't it...lol

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                                                                        • Reak
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                          • 17920

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Both designs are complete different, only colours and the style is a bit the same. If you call this design copy or steal almost every design is copied or stolen

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                                                                          • Strife
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                                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                                            • 4534

                                                                            #38
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                                                                            • MJH
                                                                              Registered User
                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                              • 18

                                                                              #39
                                                                              $hurik

                                                                              Im the other guy you talked with at the show stand and the one that told you we were not interested in buying anything from you.

                                                                              If you have any more problems or questions please dont hesitate to contact me direct at mjh at xpass dot com

                                                                              MJH
                                                                              Xpass.com

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                                                                              • Matt 26z
                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                • Apr 2002
                                                                                • 18481

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Xpass clearly ripped them off for the idea of the design. Layout is almost exact. Even the color scheme is very similar.

                                                                                The only thing original are the graphics, which are much better than the first one.

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