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Kubrick's The Shining

08-04-2003, 10:47 PM

Watching The Shining at midnight to relax from a shitty day.

This is the such a great movie for multiple reasons:

- First extensive use of a steadicam
- One of the last movies to roll the credits first.
- Soundtrack by Wendy Carlos, who became a transexual in 1972 and can be considered the father/mother pioneer of electronic music.
- Subversive subtext by Kubrick - story was less about madness of writing (King's theme) and more about conquest of North America's troubled past with natives.
- Pauline Kael's review was butta.
- Stephen King HATED THE MOVIE so much so he remade it for tv (a crappier version with the guy from WINGS)

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08-04-2003, 10:48 PM

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08-04-2003, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by MrPopup

- Stephen King HATED THE MOVIE so much so he remade it for tv (a crappier version with the guy from WINGS)

The TV version was just as good as Kubrick's and was much more true to the book.

I do think it was a poor choice in casting to use Courtland Mead though.
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08-04-2003, 10:52 PM

My fav Stanley Kubrick is A Clockwork Orange. Crank it in surround, on a big screen, sit back and enjoy the carnage.

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08-04-2003, 10:54 PM

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The TV version was just as good as Kubrick's

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08-04-2003, 10:59 PM

Yeah I am sure it is was better then Kubrick's, just like all the other good Stephen King movies that have been released.
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08-04-2003, 11:01 PM

What's most amazing about King is that all of his wealth and riches come from the ability to frighten people.

He makes money writing pop culture books that scare the shit out of people.

King goes for awhile between really good works. His longer books are usually the ones that hook me.

Bag of Bones was great. It and The Stand are my other favorites. I even like THE STAND tv adaptation with Molly RIngwald.

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08-04-2003, 11:21 PM

this might be the earliest film to have featured video games.

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08-04-2003, 11:23 PM

my computer has a fancy gay light that comes in multiple colors with a see thru side.

it almosts makes the repetitive stress syndrome worth it.

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08-04-2003, 11:24 PM

Dude. you are talking to yourself. Great thread, but you are the only one communicating in it besides me at this point.

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08-04-2003, 11:42 PM

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08-04-2003, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by ...

The TV version was just as good as Kubrick's

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08-04-2003, 11:46 PM

That was the first King book to scare the beejezus out of me, but the movie was disappointing. I haven't seen the remake. I thought the best part of the book was the actual "Shining" power the boy had, but it was practically nonexistant in the movie. THe movie was more about alcoholism and drug abuse. blah.

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08-04-2003, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by MrPopup
Bag of Bones was great.

I read Bag of Bones. In fact, it's sitting less than two feet away from me. I thought it sucked.

The Stand was great. "It" was great <B>except</B> for the end where the book descended into whacked-out fantasy and became impossible to follow.

I also read The Regulators, recently. I don't know if it's the macular degeneration or if he's still pissed off about people not paying the $1 to read the net serial he wrote but his last few books have not impressed me. I've been waiting for years for him to write another book in the Dark Tower series but now that it's out I'm not sure if I want to read it. I'd hate to be disappointed because the other books in the series were so good.

When Stephen King is on, he's awesome. When he's not on, he's quite mediocre. I definitely think his older works are better on the whole.

Edit: Maybe "sucked" is a bit too strong for Bag of Bones but I didn't really like it.

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08-04-2003, 11:52 PM

I like them both...
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08-04-2003, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by p00p
My fav Stanley Kubrick is A Clockwork Orange. Crank it in surround, on a big screen, sit back and enjoy the carnage.

Excellent movie, I saw the original trailer the other night at the drive in...they show old movies once a month in the summer, and all the previews and trailers are old as well.
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08-04-2003, 11:56 PM

I have the whole collection from Kubrick.... hands down the best director of all time.... sometimes it would take him 6 months to film 12secs of footage,..... he was very maticulous... HBO runs a sweet documentry on him sometimes....

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08-05-2003, 12:03 AM

you have to admit, 2001 is the most IRRITATING fucking movie in the history of film.
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08-05-2003, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
you have to admit, 2001 is the most IRRITATING fucking movie in the history of film.

You have to be a kubrick fan to love that movie.... my pops is a movie buff and we argue over that movie....

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08-05-2003, 12:13 AM

I tried watching it with my sennheiser's on, and almost lost my fucking mind with the sound.

and the movie is just slow as hell.
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08-05-2003, 12:18 AM

I love Kubrick, but oddly enough , I hate 2001...
my favorite Kubrick was "A Clockwork Orange"

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08-05-2003, 12:19 AM

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08-05-2003, 12:22 AM

Ive read many of the Clarke novels including 2001, 2010, 2064, 3001 and Rendevous To Rama.

Good shit, Kubrick doesnt really tell the story well in my opinion.

The books are much better.

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08-05-2003, 12:22 AM

Full Metal Jacket is the best Kubrick film...

Though I haven't seen...
Barry Lyndon, Dr. Strangelove, or Lolita
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08-05-2003, 12:30 AM

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
Full Metal Jacket is the best Kubrick film...

Though I haven't seen...
Barry Lyndon, Dr. Strangelove, or Lolita

all great films.

Barry Lyndon is fucking awesome, especially the cinematogrpahy...Kubrick shot it all with natural lighting.

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08-05-2003, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
Full Metal Jacket is the best Kubrick film...

Though I haven't seen...
Barry Lyndon, Dr. Strangelove, or Lolita

Kubrick and Peter Sellers are a potent combination. Definitely get Lolita and Dr. Strangelove, or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb.

Peter Sellers is (was) pure genius and he performs Kubrick's characters very well.

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08-05-2003, 02:03 AM

the scariest bit was the opening, with the chopper-cam following the vw and the creepy music playing...brrrr....

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08-05-2003, 02:24 AM

I loved the shining, and a clockwork orange, FMJ, but 2001 was like 'woo look at my neat0 special effects with lasery things' just total wank fest imo ;)

what's this about the shining and subversive subtext of conquest of North America's troubled past with natives ?? I totally missed that

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08-05-2003, 02:28 AM

I would reccomend to everyone to read "The Long Walk", which is one of the Bachman books. Very well done, almost my favorite King.

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08-05-2003, 02:49 AM

Originally posted by MrPopup
- Stephen King HATED THE MOVIE so much so he remade it for tv (a crappier version with the guy from WINGS)

All of Stephen King's books get the TV mini-series treatment. I don't think it has anything to do with his hatred for previous versions. More his love of money.

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08-05-2003, 03:02 AM

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08-05-2003, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by Dirty_DS
I have the whole collection from Kubrick.... hands down the best director of all time.... sometimes it would take him 6 months to film 12secs of footage,..... he was very maticulous... HBO runs a sweet documentry on him sometimes....

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08-05-2003, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by gothweb

All of Stephen King's books get the TV mini-series treatment. I don't think it has anything to do with his hatred for previous versions. More his love of money.

Depends, King does go to the mini series format with TV often because of the piss poor adaptations of his books to movies. Many of his early work was sold cheap and done very, very badly when put on film.

King did not like the original Shinning, personally it was ok but very untrue to the book. Example being kubrick just having to use the damn maze. The remake was pretty damn spot on though. Just lacked the power of Jacks performance.

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08-05-2003, 11:24 AM

I think the shining is arguably the best scary movie of all time. I've never read the book, so I guess I don't care how like the book it is. It stands well on its own.

2001 used to aggravate me only for the reason that I really didnt understand the last scenes. Then I found a really in depth review that explained it all and now I like it better.

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08-05-2003, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by Dusen
I would reccomend to everyone to read "The Long Walk", which is one of the Bachman books. Very well done, almost my favorite King.

I was going to mention The Long Walk in my first reply but I was in a hurry. The Long Walk is one of my all-time favorite stories. Another favorite of mine is Rage. Both Rage and The Long Walk are great psychological dramas. Rage was almost prophetic when you consider all the school violence problems we have today and The Long Walk doesn't seem as farfetched now as it did ten years ago. Even The Running Man isn't all that unbelievable in today's world.

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08-05-2003, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by p00p
My fav Stanley Kubrick is A Clockwork Orange. Crank it in surround, on a big screen, sit back and enjoy the carnage.

I pretty much live on the film set..gets spooky late at night and you suddently remember landmarks from the movie.

My mother used to put the Shining on when we got snowed in ...sick
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08-05-2003, 11:32 AM

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08-05-2003, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by sacX

what's this about the shining and subversive subtext of conquest of North America's troubled past with natives ?? I totally missed that

I was gonna ask that myself.
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08-05-2003, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by SpaceAce

I read Bag of Bones. In fact, it's sitting less than two feet away from me. I thought it sucked.

The Stand was great. "It" was great <B>except</B> for the end where the book descended into whacked-out fantasy and became impossible to follow.

The Stand has to be my favorite

It seems most Stephen King books endings are not as good as the stories themselves.

It's almost as if he gets to a point and says fuck it I'm bored and then just throws something together.

At least that's how I have felt when reading his books.

Could be the editor, could be him, I'd like to think at this point he's got enough power to warrant a bit more control over his books than other authors.

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