Spoke to the REAL Gary Kremen on the phone today.......

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  • BradShaw
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    • Oct 2001
    • 7840

    #1

    Spoke to the REAL Gary Kremen on the phone today.......

    Turns out I was fooled by Hungryman posting as Gary Kremen. "GaryKremen" came across as a pompous asshole who needed a reality check. I said some rude things, commented on his use of speed that I got from the Wired article. I misread the article, and his battle with speed was in the past and he is now clean.

    Spoke to the real Gary Kremen today, we had a nice conversation. I apologized for my comments, and explained that I was fooled by this imposter who came across as a cocky prick who needed to be bitch slapped. Gary seems like a great guy and quite intelligent. He told me he has been clean for 18 months, I congratulated him on staying drug free. No hard feelings and I wish Gary the best and maybe we will even do biz one day.

    My only concern was what heck was he doing hanging out with KB. I guess everyone needs someone to clean the pool and pick up trash after those parties at the mansion.
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  • Kapitan Ivanov
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    #2
    Good word!

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    • nxventures
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      #3
      How'd KB fuck you for $17k?
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      • Amputate Your Head
        There can be only one
        • Aug 2001
        • 39075

        #4
        Originally posted by BradShaw
        ...came across as a pompous asshole who needed a reality check.
        wow... now that's a statement coming from you.
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        • gkremen
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          • Feb 2003
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          #5
          Brad thank you for your sincere apology and for being a man. With respect to KB - he has been a good friend to me. He has helped me in several personal situations ? women, etc. He has also introduced me to great people like his brother D$.

          We have not done any business together as of this time, although I understand he has done much business with people on this board. I understand there are some folks very happy but others not happy like yourself. Maybe you and KB can tell your sides of the story here.
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          • MetaMan
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            • Jan 2003
            • 28682

            #6
            hungryman is a stupid fat fag,

            wat a fuckin dork he comes and inpersonates people fuckin loser fat prick piece of shit go to kentucky fried chicken and pick up ur pre made meal u fat dum shithead, then go to mcdonalds and have them greet u by name because u go there so much because u r a fat fag.

            fuckin fat dork.

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            • RRRED
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              • Jan 2001
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              #7
              Hi Gary *smooch! see you in Florida

              Mel's been taking very good care of me btw...

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              • Fletch XXX
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                • Jan 2002
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                #8
                impersonation is lame.

                especially if he was making him look negative.

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                • TheGoldenChild
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                  • May 2002
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                  #9
                  How's this for starters?

                  I have made plenty of money for many people and have helped many people acquire many things- not only did Brad want to buy a content company years ago from AL4A called Pure Candy Images- I helped Al sell it to brad

                  Ask Brad what kind of finders fee he gave me for it?
                  Did Al?

                  No- Consider that your first favor, Brad, second, after years of being a hypocrite and calling my closest friends who mail SPAMMERS and how much they were killing our industry

                  and having yuor crippled dog piss on C&D 's from Evan and such Brad comes to me looking for email lists!

                  I tell him I don't mail, and I don't back up finacially anything I sell that I am introducing him to a person who's identity he wanted to remain anonymous.

                  He does the deal , sends me money I wire the $16,000 to the perosn selling it- list gets sent from the seller in AZ

                  Long story short Brad doesn'y know how to clean a list gets heat blames others-

                  My guy still gets his seeds til this day and he complained that I fucked him-

                  So I ask you all- who is a big fat prick?

                  I am right for ever getting involved with a pig like Brad.

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                  • TheGoldenChild
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                    • May 2002
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                    #10
                    and brad as for:

                    "Turns out I was fooled by Hungryman posting as Gary Kremen. "GaryKremen" came across as a pompous asshole who needed a reality check. I said some rude things, commented on his use of speed that I got from the Wired article. I misread the article, and his battle with speed was in the past and he is now clean."

                    You are full of shit- you knew it was gary and yuo called him a pre scholler the way he does biz- are you backing down now because Gary threatened to squash you ?

                    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I think I KNOW the answer to that one.

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                    • stevecore
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                      • May 2003
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                      #11
                      gary's super friendly...i dont see how anyone could misintepret him as a pompous asshole if they met him in person. he has a genuine interest in what you are talking to him about & it just goes to show you how board speculation and hearsay can come back and bite you in the ass.

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                      • BradShaw
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                        • Oct 2001
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                        #12
                        KB, I may not agree with Gary's business model. but after speaking with him on the phone today I have no doubt he is in top 1% of intelligence in this biz along with me. I will not get into the bottom 1%.
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                        • justsexxx
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by kBizzle
                          How's this for starters?

                          I have made plenty of money for many people and have helped many people acquire many things- not only did Brad want to buy a content company years ago from AL4A called Pure Candy Images- I helped Al sell it to brad

                          Ask Brad what kind of finders fee he gave me for it?
                          Did Al?

                          No- Consider that your first favor, Brad, second, after years of being a hypocrite and calling my closest friends who mail SPAMMERS and how much they were killing our industry

                          and having yuor crippled dog piss on C&D 's from Evan and such Brad comes to me looking for email lists!

                          I tell him I don't mail, and I don't back up finacially anything I sell that I am introducing him to a person who's identity he wanted to remain anonymous.

                          He does the deal , sends me money I wire the $16,000 to the perosn selling it- list gets sent from the seller in AZ

                          Long story short Brad doesn'y know how to clean a list gets heat blames others-

                          My guy still gets his seeds til this day and he complained that I fucked him-

                          So I ask you all- who is a big fat prick?

                          I am right for ever getting involved with a pig like Brad.
                          He is just crying because he needed the money for the dentist

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                          • BradShaw
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                            #14
                            Went to dentist today, $900 and my teeth looking fucking good. 80% will be covered by our dental insurance thank god.

                            As for the Pure Candy Images deal, only personal I recall working with on that was RRRED, not you. I worked with her throughout the deal, as AL gave me a headache.
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                            • GrimShawn
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                              #15
                              Did you ask Gary about his counters! Would hate to have you hanging with people with subpar counters!

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                              • IKE
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                                #16
                                I have done a bunch of deals with KB and they have all turned out great. He has integrity and is very honest. I am proud to consider him a friend.

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                                • TheGoldenChild
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                                  • May 2002
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                                  #17
                                  So I prove Brad to be a spammer and nobody comes out and calls foul?

                                  Anyone else remember his rants over Evan and spam years ago or am I the only one?


                                  and Brad ask Al again perhaps your memory is going now that your teeth and dog are rotten.

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                                  • TheGoldenChild
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                                    #18
                                    And thanks IKE!

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                                    • Troels
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                                      What happened to the Microsoft lawsuit against Evan?
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                                      • shawcutie
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by kBizzle
                                        So I prove Brad to be a spammer and nobody comes out and calls foul?

                                        Anyone else remember his rants over Evan and spam years ago or am I the only one?


                                        and Brad ask Al again perhaps your memory is going now that your teeth and dog are rotten.
                                        No need to bring the dog into it.
                                        Yes, I am Mrs. Shaw ;)

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                                        • TheGoldenChild
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                                          #21
                                          why your dog has more integrity than your boyfriend-

                                          It's definitely more loyal too -

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                                          • Peaches
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                                            • Oct 2002
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by shawcutie


                                            Yes, I am Mrs. Shaw ;)
                                            The wedding's already happened?

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                                            • Anthony_A
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                                              #23
                                              Brad,

                                              You spam? After all that talk in the past about spammers?

                                              KB made a statement, is it true?
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                                              • PeerPatrick
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                                                #24
                                                I'm glad you think Gary is a cool cat, your right on that one...think its real fucking funny though when folk come out and say they are supa smart (especially the top 1%smart) Isn't that up to the Industry to decide?

                                                Pissing all over yourself isn't smart, neither are taunts about spammming or drug use/abuse...pot=kettle 1, I'll take both please. Either change your pants or stop taking vitamins, its way too obvious and the smell is getting to me. Oh and by all means, GFY.
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                                                • Carrie
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                  I have no doubt he is in top 1% of intelligence in this biz along with me.
                                                  Brad do you honestly know why most people find you distasteful? It's not your money, it's not your business practices... it's this ungodly, disgusting conceit that you show off at every opportunity.
                                                  You are human just like the rest of us. If you were truly among the top 1% of intelligent folks in this business, you'd be making the money that Yishai does, not sitting on a board pissing with KB.

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                                                  • Amputate Your Head
                                                    There can be only one
                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                    • 39075

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Carrie
                                                    You are human just like the rest of us.
                                                    I'd never give him that much credit... he's more like the missing link.
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                                                    • ronin
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                                                      #27
                                                      [QUOTE]Originally posted by Carrie
                                                      [B]

                                                      Brad do you honestly know why most people find you distasteful?

                                                      YES, they do. LOL

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                                                      • stevecore
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by PeerPatrick
                                                        I'm glad you think Gary is a cool cat, your right on that one...think its real fucking funny though when folk come out and say they are supa smart (especially the top 1%smart) Isn't that up to the Industry to decide?

                                                        Pissing all over yourself isn't smart, neither are taunts about spammming or drug use/abuse...pot=kettle 1, I'll take both please. Either change your pants or stop taking vitamins, its way too obvious and the smell is getting to me. Oh and by all means, GFY.
                                                        Sup nukka?!?!

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                                                        • greentea
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                                                          #29
                                                          brad is like cancer, it keeps coming back.
                                                          blunts

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                                                          • Indeed
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by BradShaw I was fooled by this imposter who came across as a cocky prick who needed to be bitch slapped

                                                            Originally posted by Amputate Your Head wow... now that's a statement coming from you.

                                                            Originally posted by BradShaw I have no doubt he is in top 1% of intelligence in this biz along with me.


                                                            no need to explain further...

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                                                            • PeerPatrick
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                                                              • Jun 2003
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                                                              #31
                                                              jeez, i hate it when i start a thread and try to make a point and all you rotten bastards have to go and ruin it, then it backfires and i end up looking weak and not smart...GFY
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                                                              • SykkBoy2
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                                                                • Feb 2001
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Anthony_A
                                                                Brad,

                                                                You spam? After all that talk in the past about spammers?

                                                                KB made a statement, is it true?
                                                                Tough times ya know, everyone has to do what they can to survive ;-)))
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                                                                • TheGoldenChild
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                                                                  • May 2002
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Sykk I think you'll recall how malevolent Brad became when sent C&D's - his Dog pissed on them

                                                                  I have no room in my life for hypocrites and liars... and he is both.

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                                                                  • TheGoldenChild
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Brad anwer Anthony's question are you a SPAMMER???

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                                                                    • MicroChick
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Carrie, do you honestly know why most people find you distasteful?

                                                                      Because you are a big mouthed know-nothing opportunist who sticks her fat ass and big nose into every conversation on the net.

                                                                      What is your claim-to-fame, Miss Carrie? You are white trash, supporting a husband and two kids with your limited skills. Your talent is taking notes and giving it to Net-pond for a dollar.

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                                                                      • KBPimped
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                                                                        • Jun 2003
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        KB,

                                                                        You run around the background corners of life talking shit about people and then when the light shines on you, you come out with these illegible ramblings and re-posts baiting people on to say shit.

                                                                        You have personally talked smack about me numerous times and every time I see you coming a mile away. Its a shame that someone hasn't caught you slipping Seth W style all laid out.

                                                                        Kevin, your not all that.

                                                                        Just chill the fuck out and go back to making your little coin in the corner and get some new rhymes. Your current ones are old and busted.

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                                                                        • SleazyDream
                                                                          I'm here for SPORT
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 41470

                                                                          #37
                                                                          yet another reason why most of the people on this board think hungryman is a waste of skin
                                                                          This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                          Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                          • BradShaw
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                                                                            • Oct 2001
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            KB will get his, do not worry. He has a few large companies who are not too pleased with him for selling their hacked/stolen email lists.

                                                                            BTW, I have no need to spam. I do well with responsible email marketing.
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                                                                            • SleazyDream
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                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 41470

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by BradShaw


                                                                              BTW, I have no need to spam. I do well with responsible email marketing.
                                                                              ahhh - so what OTHER people do is spam. What you do is referred to as RESPONSIBLE EMAIL MARKETING...


                                                                              lets look under the dictionary for the term 'responsible email marketing'.... ahh, here it is.

                                                                              Responsible email marketing : spam.
                                                                              This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                              Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                              • BradShaw
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Sleazydream, stick to what you know, tgp's. You commenting on m opt-in mailing is like me telling you how to run a tgp.


                                                                                Put your email in on our sites, you get emails, thats what I do. ;-)
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                                                                                • SleazyDream
                                                                                  I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                  • 41470

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                                                  Sleazydream, stick to what you know, tgp's. You commenting on m opt-in mailing is like me telling you how to run a tgp.


                                                                                  Put your email in on our sites, you get emails, thats what I do. ;-)
                                                                                  and your comments on other threads about having spammers use your program was just in my imagination..............

                                                                                  if you stuck to what you know you'd be STUCK
                                                                                  This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                                  Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                  • TheGoldenChild
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                                                                                    • May 2002
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    hahaha now I am hacker?

                                                                                    I guess I must be some kind of genius if I do half the BS you claim I do-

                                                                                    grow up.

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                                                                                    • BradShaw
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                                                                                      • Oct 2001
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      We take responsible email, I do not think you have ever seen me solicit spam.

                                                                                      KB, I doubt you could hack your way out of a paperbag, but you sure seemed to use your great marketing skills to sell hacked lists... How about this, you put up $50k of your own $, vs. my $50k. We can find a neutral 3rd party to hold it. When the dust settles in 6 months, someone will have $100k, and someone will have $0k. My claim is that you sold me a stolen/hacked j****e list among others. This has been verified by the program owners, and you were confronted in Phoenix. $50k, deal?
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                                                                                      • SleazyDream
                                                                                        I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                                        • 41470

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                                                        .........., I do not think ........

                                                                                        sounds about right
                                                                                        This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                                        Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                        • BradShaw
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          $50k KB, come on, call a few friends, go to the pawn shop, then get with me. I can be patient;-)
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                                                                                          • TheGoldenChild
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Brad-

                                                                                            There is NO litigation going on, I haven't been approached ny anyone I approached YOUR friend- I told him what I knew,

                                                                                            never heard from him again-
                                                                                            Truth be told I hope you SERVE me so I can give up under OATH your friends' that REALLY fucked you.

                                                                                            I think when you find out who sold you that list you'll be very red faced and your BIG friends will be too- I'll give you my commission back if you shut your fat mouth $1,000 I'll even give you interest

                                                                                            I know you can't keep your mouth shut though-

                                                                                            You have opened a big can of worms my friend- and we'll see how much of a popularity contest you want to have-

                                                                                            I am betting the people who hate you far outweigh the people who don't maybe I should start a KB defense fund?

                                                                                            If you hate Brad- donate to my fund and I'll give away all my proceeds whn I sue his ass to all of YOU

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                                                                                            • BradShaw
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              KB, why do you need people to donate $?


                                                                                              Why don't you simply accept my $50k offer?


                                                                                              You see, when it comes down to it, KB can't put up $50k, so he runs away like a little kid with his tail between his legs. Or maybe he is busy clipping coupons for Florida. KB I know it drives to nuts that in this business you are nothing, and have nothing to show for you nothing. A little fucking prick like me can laugh at you all day.... all the way to the bank.
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                                                                                              • TheGoldenChild
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                " A FOOL AND HIS MONEY-"

                                                                                                You finish the rest Brad-

                                                                                                Money can't buy you love-
                                                                                                or a crippled DOG

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                                                                                                • PeerPatrick
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                                                                                                  #49
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                                                                                                  Bender: Don't you ever talk about my friends! You don't know any of my friends! You don't look at any of my friends! And, you certainly wouldn't condescend to speak to any of my friends! So you just stick to the things you know: shopping, nail polish, your father's B.M.W., and your poor, rich, drunk mother in the Caribbean!

                                                                                                  Patrick: GFY
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                                                                                                  • BradShaw
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    KB, you are right, $ can not buy love, thank goodness I have such a wonderful personality.

                                                                                                    As for a dog, well $3k sure can fix his back, he comes home tomorrow. Low blow about my dog....

                                                                                                    Off to a conference call with one of KB's old employers.
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