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  • SENSEX
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2003
    • 1159

    #1

    dutchbilling out of business

    Another one gone...

    Starting today, July 30th 15.00 CET, DutchBilling will cease its
    operations. Therefore, starting this date and time, your website
    will be unable to accept any credit card or check transactions
    through DutchBilling in the future.

    After very large and extensive discussions with our acquiring
    banking relationships worldwide our banks forced us, together
    with the rules and regulations from VISA and MasterCard International,
    to stop processing immediately.

    The reason of closure is the affiliation between the type of
    content provided on the websites where DutchBilling is billing
    for and the brand VISA and/or MasterCard. Both card associations
    don't want to have any affiliation with this type of content.

    Your balance, as well as the future payouts, will be paid
    according to the following schedule.

    1. The last normal payment occurred Monday July 28th 2003.
    This payment should have been received into your account
    already.

    2. The following payout, minus any credits or chargebacks,
    is scheduled for Monday October 27th. This amount is the
    total of all invoices between August 4th and October 27th,
    minus a 50% holdback of this total.

    3. The last payout, scheduled for January 26th, will include
    the remainder of your payment, including all holdbacks and
    reserves.

    The above schedule applies for all DutchBilling webmasters,
    linkers and resellers.

    All end-users will continue to have access to your website,
    and our automated systems will automatically delete these
    users when their subscriptions are expired.

    Despite the message above, the entire DutchBilling staff
    and management thank you for your business and we regret
    that we have to stop our business relationship.

    For more information, please contact the Merchant Support
    Group at Dutchbilling at [email protected].

    With regards,


    DutchBilling management
  • BVF
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    • Jan 2002
    • 13975

    #2
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    • KRL
      Entrepreneur
      • Oct 2002
      • 31429

      #3
      Well the writing was on the wall already for that one too. Beasty, rape, cp. That one was a no brainer to be next in the firing line.

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      • geps
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2003
        • 196

        #4
        I think it took too much time to go down...
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        • Fabien
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2003
          • 4789

          #5

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          • PerfectionGirls
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Oct 2002
            • 4484

            #6
            Dont they own Vertol or whatever the name of that company is?
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            • justsexxx
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Aug 2001
              • 13723

              #7
              Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
              Dont they own Vertol or whatever the name of that company is?
              It's the other way, verotell owns dutchbilling for a part

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              • JamesK
                hi
                • Jun 2002
                • 16731

                #8
                Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
                Dont they own Vertol or whatever the name of that company is?
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                • JamesK
                  hi
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 16731

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Wildcard


                  Veritel?
                  verotell.
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                  • SENSEX
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 1159

                    #10
                    Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
                    Dont they own Vertol or whatever the name of that company is?
                    Verotel owns them, but they are a seperate entity from what I understand. I think they are the ones that did the beast, rape, etc stuff, so Verotel is legally not liable.

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                    • Alex From San Diego
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2001
                      • 1642

                      #11
                      The sky has finally begun to fall....

                      Hope everyone thought of diversifying a year ago.
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                      • sexeducation
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 7315

                        #12
                        This is craziness ...
                        I also read somewhere that Ducthbilling was owned by Verotel.
                        Watch out Verotel users ...


                        unbelievable...

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                        • AdultKing
                          Raise Your Weapon
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 15601

                          #13
                          If Verotel close then teenpromote.com and its sites will be available for $15k USD. Then I'll take another nice little holiday in Europe before I retire

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                          • Fabien
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 4789

                            #14
                            Yeah it's what i meant

                            Verotel owns dutchbilling

                            Fuck this ainn't good at all grgrgrgrgrgr

                            Sure i've had my differences with them but that is NOT GOOD AT ALL FOR THE BIZ

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                            • geps
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 196

                              #15
                              oh my god
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                              • Nurgle
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2001
                                • 2337

                                #16
                                At least these guys gave warning and have notified their webmasters when they can expect payment...


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                                • geps
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                                  • Feb 2003
                                  • 196

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Nurgle
                                  At least these guys gave warning and have notified their webmasters when they can expect payment...


                                  Nurgle
                                  I don''t think that they will receive more then
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                                  • Fabien
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 4789

                                    #18
                                    Like if we needed this in the summer slow down

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                                    • Dusen
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 2251

                                      #19
                                      It did seem inevitable with the stuff they were processing.

                                      My sympathy to any legit webmasters who got burned by this
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                                      • andi_germany
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 768

                                        #20
                                        I think Verotel had to close them down. They had high chargebacks and were billing for questionable sites that VISA and MC don't want to be affiliated with at all.

                                        I think Verotel might be safe for now but who knows ....


                                        I think I will start shopping for dialers immediately
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                                        • directfiesta
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 30188

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by geps


                                          I don''t think that they will receive more then
                                          I don't use Dutcbilling, but I used in the past Verza ( same as Verotel, but for gardgoods). When Verza closed, they also made a payment schedule and pretty much respected it. They factored in a few " extra" chargebacks, but I got 80% of the amount owed. I just hope ( tough I know I wont ...) that would be true for Globill...

                                          I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                          But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                          • hvidlogspusher
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 315

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by KRL
                                            Well the writing was on the wall already for that one too. Beasty, rape, cp. That one was a no brainer to be next in the firing line.

                                            Cleaning house is a good thing. All the trash is being taken out.
                                            i thinking you are forgetting something, first of all dutchbill wasnt processing cp, second of all beast and fantasy rape is legal i netherland where dutchbill is located

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                                            • Tipsy
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 6989

                                              #23
                                              Didn't dutchbilling more or less close a while back by making the system unusable?
                                              Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                              • Fabien
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2003
                                                • 4789

                                                #24
                                                hvidlogspusher is right ya know

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                                                • KRL
                                                  Entrepreneur
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 31429

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by hvidlogspusher


                                                  i thinking you are forgetting something, first of all dutchbill wasnt processing cp, second of all beast and fantasy rape is legal i netherland where dutchbill is located
                                                  I'm not saying CP CP, but over there girls photographed for porn at 16 are allowable right? To most people that enters the CP realm.
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                                                  • geps
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                    • 196

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by directfiesta


                                                    I don't use Dutcbilling, but I used in the past Verza ( same as Verotel, but for gardgoods). When Verza closed, they also made a payment schedule and pretty much respected it. They factored in a few " extra" chargebacks, but I got 80% of the amount owed. I just hope ( tough I know I wont ...) that would be true for Globill...

                                                    if that is true its a exception
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                                                    • Fabien
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                      • 4789

                                                      #27
                                                      I'LL GO CASH IN RIGHT AWAY MY CCBILL AND IBILL CHECKS !!!!!!


                                                      Acpay
                                                      Globosale
                                                      Globill
                                                      Dutchbilling

                                                      They all went down at the same time

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                                                      • hvidlogspusher
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                        • 315

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by KRL


                                                        I'm not saying CP CP, but over there girls photographed for porn at 16 are allowable right? To most people that enters the CP realm.
                                                        well im not from netherland but in denmark which have very much the same laws, as far as i know, girls are allowed to have sex at 15years old but they still have to be 18 to be in porn

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                                                        • geps
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                          • 196

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Fabien
                                                          I'LL GO CASH IN RIGHT AWAY MY CCBILL AND IBILL CHECKS !!!!!!


                                                          Acpay
                                                          Globosale
                                                          Globill
                                                          Dutchbilling

                                                          They all went down at the same time
                                                          globosale is out of business?
                                                          Brazilian Content Producer
                                                          ICQ: 64788331
                                                          In the biz since 2001

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                                                          • Fabien
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                            • 4789

                                                            #30
                                                            Well don't start any false rumors but IT'S WHAT I HAVE HEARD !!!

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                                                            • geps
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                              • 196

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Fabien
                                                              Well don't start any false rumors but IT'S WHAT I HAVE HEARD !!!
                                                              hmm if they are out.. they havent made any annoucement yet
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                                                              • chowda
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                • 9527

                                                                #32
                                                                if they;re out, where would all the beastiality porn go?
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                                                                • hvidlogspusher
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                  • 315

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by chowda
                                                                  if they;re out, where would all the beastiality porn go?
                                                                  why is that funny ?

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                                                                  • chowda
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                    • 9527

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by hvidlogspusher


                                                                    why is that funny ?

                                                                    they're one of the processors that actually process for beastiality.. ur asking for trouble with those kinda sites
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                                                                    • geps
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                      • 196

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by chowda
                                                                      if they;re out, where would all the beastiality porn go?
                                                                      bestiality webmasters, the biggest ones, already have they own merchant account.. not joking, if you go to bestiality sites you will see that they even accept american express...
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                                                                      • Fabien
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                        • 4789

                                                                        #36
                                                                        TABARNAKE !!!!!


                                                                        Just got a bounced check from Globill !!

                                                                        Shit the check was almost 2 weeks old !!
                                                                        Before i knew about it !!

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                                                                        • Calvinguy
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 1752

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by geps


                                                                          bestiality webmasters, the biggest ones, already have they own merchant account.. not joking, if you go to bestiality sites you will see that they even accept american express...
                                                                          True, and it looks like people with their own merchant account are more preserved and the visa/mastercard brand have no problems that way?

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                                                                          • hvidlogspusher
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                            • 315

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by chowda



                                                                            they're one of the processors that actually process for beastiality.. ur asking for trouble with those kinda sites
                                                                            well why are they chasing beastiality ? its legal in the majority of the countries and allowed in alot of states in usa too

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                                                                            • geps
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                              • 196

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Calvinguy


                                                                              True, and it looks like people with their own merchant account are more preserved and the visa/mastercard brand have no problems that way?
                                                                              seems like it
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                                                                              • KingK7
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jun 2002
                                                                                • 6372

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by sexeducation
                                                                                This is craziness ...
                                                                                I also read somewhere that Ducthbilling was owned by Verotel.
                                                                                Watch out Verotel users ...


                                                                                unbelievable...
                                                                                You process your CP sites there?

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                                                                                • NewView
                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                  • 54

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I think the problem is big mouth Mr. Burger kicking against Visa rules.... They are not impressed I guess
                                                                                  If it ain't Dutch .....

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                                                                                  • jimmyf
                                                                                    OU812
                                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                                    • 12651

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by geps


                                                                                    bestiality webmasters, the biggest ones, already have they own merchant account.. not joking, if you go to bestiality sites you will see that they even accept american express...
                                                                                    this is true
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                                                                                    • clubsexy
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                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                      • 1630

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by hvidlogspusher


                                                                                      well why are they chasing beastiality ? its legal in the majority of the countries and allowed in alot of states in usa too
                                                                                      I didn't think Beastiality was LEGAL in any states in the USA.
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                                                                                      • SykkBoy2
                                                                                        Jesus loves bacon
                                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                                        • 19969

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by clubsexy


                                                                                        I didn't think Beastiality was LEGAL in any states in the USA.
                                                                                        not true

                                                                                        there are more states with sodomy laws than beasty laws, but what they'll usually do is nail them on a cruelty to animals charge
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                                                                                        • NewView
                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                                          • 54

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Do you think that a own merchant account will be the answer?

                                                                                          Dutchbilling was dealing with the Dutch law but get disconnected from them also.

                                                                                          Is it the time worth to setup an own payingsystem?

                                                                                          Verotel was just helping them with the authorization of the transaction.
                                                                                          If it ain't Dutch .....

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                                                                                          • chupacabra
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                                            • 3626

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Verotel was just helping them with the authorization of the transaction.
                                                                                            i bet VEROTEL is desperately trying to distance themselves and lower perceived attachment to Dutchbilling at this point..
                                                                                            ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                                                                                            • skitten
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                                              • 217

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Nurgle
                                                                                              At least these guys gave warning and have notified their webmasters when they can expect payment...


                                                                                              Nurgle

                                                                                              I agree! Even though, it is no guarantee - it is still better than the Bullshit handed to us by Globill!

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                                                                                              • matulo
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                                • 116

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                who wrote that bullshit about globosale ? They're still in the biz
                                                                                                I don't give a shit.

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                                                                                                • the real magoo
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                                                                  • 1637

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  VISA uber alles

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                                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                                    • 26118

                                                                                                    #50
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