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07-29-2003, 11:23 PM

Hey guys, I've been doing alot of little jobs for people who want galleries done for submitting to TGP and also some exit console work. In the process of doing so and monitoring the conversions they drive (to live up to agreed on guarantees), I've had a chance to get a good look at a wide range of data on some sponsors and two of them have just been kicking ass and converting like a mofo so I figured I'd do the nice thing and share:

http://www.sweetmoney.com sites are converting like tribesmen to a new religion!

http://www.nastydollars.com/ sites are killin' too.

There's plenty of big and small guys who I haven't had the opp to see much of yet too so please don't feel I'm excluding anyone or in any way saying non-inclusion on this tiny list means anything. It's just two sponsors who I am seeing great numbers from for quite a good many clients so I'm sharing for what it's worth to ya.

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07-29-2003, 11:24 PM

Right on

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07-29-2003, 11:25 PM

No offense mark, but Nastydollars has never been so shitty on the conversions, EVER.

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07-29-2003, 11:26 PM

any and all credibility your statements may have had were blown out of the water with the ND reference.

they tanked hard. a case study in over-saturation
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07-29-2003, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by High Quality
No offense mark, but Nastydollars has never been so shitty on the conversions, EVER.

No offense taken. I'm only reporting what I've seen. Individuals might always have different results ya' know? I have no stake or preference in the matter (although I do love the guys at Sweet for a long time now as people). I'm just callin' what I saw lately.

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07-29-2003, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by [Labret]
any and all credibility your statements may have had were blown out of the water with the ND reference.

they tanked hard. a case study in over-saturation

Hey what I said above. Although I will admit I'm entirely uncredible and defintely not able to leap fake titties in a single click. Might just be the group of people I'm getting the data from happen to match up well or the sites on the prog they chose to run. I don't have it broken down or analyzed further than that at this point. Like I said, just reporting what I got back. =]

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07-29-2003, 11:29 PM

http://www.sweetmoney.com does not accept Slovakia, so fuck you swootmoney

http://www.nastydollars.com - the same shit, fuck you

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07-29-2003, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by margarita
http://www.sweetmoney.com does not accept Slovakia, so fuck you swootmoney

http://www.nastydollars.com - the same shit, fuck you

Ahh see now ya try to say something nice about someone and it turns into a flamefest. I have renewed my faith in the GFYness.

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07-29-2003, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by MarkTiarra

Ahh see now ya try to say something nice about someone and it turns into a flamefest. I have renewed my faith in the GFYness.

hell yeah

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07-29-2003, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by MarkTiarra

Hey what I said above. Although I will admit I'm entirely uncredible and defintely not able to leap fake titties in a single click. Might just be the group of people I'm getting the data from happen to match up well or the sites on the prog they chose to run. I don't have it broken down or analyzed further than that at this point. Like I said, just reporting what I got back. =]

Not everyone can Leap Fake Titties in a single click..

But MARK T makes some great flash banners and sites

I can not wait till we unveil the new totally fucked up one we been working on hahahahhaha
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07-29-2003, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by MarkTiarra

Ahh see now ya try to say something nice about someone and it turns into a flamefest. I have renewed my faith in the GFYness.

Isn't it way how it should be here ?
Who likes to read all the time sweet poetry about sponsors, that everyone is writing here, including his affiliate code ?

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07-30-2003, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by margarita
http://www.sweetmoney.com does not accept Slovakia, so fuck you swootmoney

http://www.nastydollars.com - the same shit, fuck you

If you weren't fuckin' lazy to send them one line email "Hi guys, let me in, I have these sites and have some real traffic for you" they'd let you in instantly. If you don't have any sites or traffic which I expect to be this case just Shut The Fuck Up !

On the other note, my stats with ND this period:
Totals 11475 29 $1015 1:395
Nothing special, but nothing wrong with them.

XM

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07-30-2003, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by margarita
http://www.sweetmoney.com does not accept Slovakia, so fuck you swootmoney

http://www.nastydollars.com - the same shit, fuck you

if you were more polite someone would plug you with both programs. I have done the same a couple of times for webmasters that can't join most sponsors.

now good luck
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07-30-2003, 01:34 AM

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if you were more polite someone would plug you with both programs. I have done the same a couple of times for webmasters that can't join most sponsors.

now good luck

My friend started promoting some program, don't remember which one. It didn't have in rules anything about banned countries.
He had some signups, received first check, everything ran ok.
He started to work with them even more, got more money,
~$1K if i remember good, but no check arrived.
When he wrote them couple of emails, they answered that his country is in blacklist. And they really listed it into rules, after some time and fucked him off

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07-30-2003, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by MarkTiarra
sites are converting like tribesmen to a new religion!

lol, witty analogies rock

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07-30-2003, 01:41 AM

I have used nd on some galleries, and there don't have a very good signup ratio, I sent them 10K with out any signup
Grrrrrr

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07-30-2003, 01:51 AM

Originally posted by lordsofthekings
I have used nd on some galleries, and there don't have a very good signup ratio, I sent them 10K with out any signup
Grrrrrr

10k to the gallery?

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07-30-2003, 02:12 AM

Originally posted by margarita

My friend started promoting some program, don't remember which one. It didn't have in rules anything about banned countries.
He had some signups, received first check, everything ran ok.
He started to work with them even more, got more money,
~$1K if i remember good, but no check arrived.
When he wrote them couple of emails, they answered that his country is in blacklist. And they really listed it into rules, after some time and fucked him off

Yes it could happen. Some sponsors suck at this. However what has it to do with ND or sweetmoney?

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07-30-2003, 02:55 AM

Originally posted by XM

Yes it could happen. Some sponsors suck at this. However what has it to do with ND or sweetmoney?

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Maybe nothing. But there is some risk that they will piss you off, especially when they say it in rules.
Some admin can approve you today, but after couple of months he maybe will leave company and another manager will funk you off.
But when you say that you're doing fine with ND even if you are from blacklisted country, then your experience can make me remove ND from my blacklist ant try to ask them.

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07-30-2003, 03:21 AM

10k to the gallery?

Nope it was to there sites. now I use silvercash on my galleries, the have a signup ratio on 1:754

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07-30-2003, 03:29 AM

god damnit, both are doing shitty for me.

ND = 1:2700 (never been worst for me)

SEG = 1:2100 so far

oh well, i just suck anyway so dont count my opinion. lol

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07-30-2003, 04:38 AM

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
god damnit, both are doing shitty for me.

ND = 1:2700 (never been worst for me)

SEG = 1:2100 so far

oh well, i just suck anyway so dont count my opinion. lol

You have probably very bad traffic, how/where do you get it ?

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07-30-2003, 04:40 AM

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07-30-2003, 04:48 AM

Originally posted by margarita
http://www.sweetmoney.com does not accept Slovakia, so fuck you swootmoney

http://www.nastydollars.com - the same shit, fuck you

Like it or not there's a VERY good reason for it. I'd only let someone from Slovakia I knew personally push any of my sites and even then I'd want a security deposit and access to their first born. You may be the most honest guy alive but unfortunately a very high % of people from the same region aren't.

Ignorance is never bliss.
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07-30-2003, 04:49 AM

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07-30-2003, 04:55 AM

Originally posted by Tipsy

Like it or not there's a VERY good reason for it. I'd only let someone from Slovakia I knew personally push any of my sites and even then I'd want a security deposit and access to their first born. You may be the most honest guy alive but unfortunately a very high % of people from the same region aren't.

How do you know that there is high % of bad guys ? Do you have personal experience ?
Slovakia is normal country in centre of europe, we're gonna be part of european union next year.
We have roads and cars and computers, what is - I don't know why - surprise for americans

And what bad could 'bad guys' do to sponsor ?

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07-30-2003, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by margarita
http://www.sweetmoney.com does not accept Slovakia, so fuck you swootmoney

http://www.nastydollars.com - the same shit, fuck you

try emailing them with examples of your work and some info about how are you going to push their sites etc. some sponsors will accept you this way even when your country is banned.
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07-30-2003, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by margarita
We have roads and cars and computers, what is - I don;t know why - surprise for americans

no shit!
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07-30-2003, 05:14 AM

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07-30-2003, 05:20 AM

Originally posted by margarita

How do you know that there is high % of bad guys ? Do you have personal experience ?
Slovakia is normal country in centre of europe, we're gonna be part of european union next year.
We have roads and cars and computers, what is - I don't know why - surprise for americans

And what bad could 'bad guys' do to sponsor ?

I'm not Americn, I know EXACTLY where Slovakia and yes I do. Take the blinkers off and you'll have FAR more success in this biz.

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07-30-2003, 05:25 AM

Originally posted by margarita

And what bad could 'bad guys' do to sponsor ?

Missed that. Has to be THE most ignorant question I've seen in a long while. Go ask zooted what damage they can do.

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07-30-2003, 05:27 AM

Originally posted by Tipsy

Missed that. Has to be THE most ignorant question I've seen in a long while. Go ask zooted what damage they can do.

btw what happened to zooted ?
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07-30-2003, 05:46 AM

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Missed that. Has to be THE most ignorant question I've seen in a long while. Go ask zooted what damage they can do.

?? Who is zooted ?

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07-30-2003, 05:51 AM

Sweetmoney is dynamite!

I picked them up about a month ago and have only been pushing them moderately. Already had over 50 sales in the past 2 weeks with little effort.

If you're down in Miami this week talk to Jman, Max or one of the other guys. If you want to make some more money or diversify you can't go wrong with these guys.

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07-30-2003, 05:53 AM

Originally posted by margarita

Maybe nothing. But there is some risk that they will piss you off, especially when they say it in rules.
Some admin can approve you today, but after couple of months he maybe will leave company and another manager will funk you off.
But when you say that you're doing fine with ND even if you are from blacklisted country, then your experience can make me remove ND from my blacklist ant try to ask them.

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07-30-2003, 05:59 AM

Originally posted by margarita

?? Who is zooted ?

I rest my case. Learn about the business and understand why things are the way they are. The whole thing is really very simple even if it is a major pain in the ass for honest people in your region.

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07-30-2003, 06:15 AM

Those are great sponsors...Good people behind them!
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07-30-2003, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
Sweetmoney is dynamite!

I picked them up about a month ago and have only been pushing them moderately. Already had over 50 sales in the past 2 weeks with little effort.

If you're down in Miami this week talk to Jman, Max or one of the other guys. If you want to make some more money or diversify you can't go wrong with these guys.

DH

YEah, looks like of the two I mentioned, no one has any bad experience with them and I've never heard anything bad about them either. Like I said - like tribesmen to a new religion... =]

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07-30-2003, 08:41 AM

Sweetmoney is dynamite!

Thanks DH....Mark T. if you are in Miami please drop by the SEG booth and as mentioned see Jman, Max, I'll be there kicking it live with the Sweet Family and lets talk about making some Sweet Money.

Let's

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07-30-2003, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by Tipsy

Like it or not there's a VERY good reason for it. I'd only let someone from Slovakia I knew personally push any of my sites and even then I'd want a security deposit and access to their first born. You may be the most honest guy alive but unfortunately a very high % of people from the same region aren't.

OK I'm too long in this biz to waste my energy in arguing about this, my deepest conviction is that considering how small country Slovakia is and how little is this country computer/internet penetrated the fact it is on most banned countries list is caused mainly by blind copy/paste of this part of terms between sponsors and not by any statistical valid data about Slovak webmasters fraud/experience.

Tipsy if some of the sponsors I am currently using required security deposit and blah blah just because I am from some country in my AW beginnings they wouldn't currently enjoy hundreds signups monthly I am sending them (Topbucks, Lightspeedcash etc.)
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07-30-2003, 09:33 AM

Great to hear that, gonna give them a try tommorrow, btw ND has always been bout 1:1000 for me which is REALLY good on my shit traffic.
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07-30-2003, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by XM

OK I'm too long in this biz to waste my energy in arguing about this, my deepest conviction is that considering how small country Slovakia is and how little is this country computer/internet penetrated the fact it is on most banned countries list is caused mainly by blind copy/paste of this part of terms between sponsors and not by any statistical valid data about Slovak webmasters fraud/experience.

Tipsy if some of the sponsors I am currently using required security deposit and blah blah just because I am from some country in my AW beginnings they wouldn't currently enjoy hundreds signups monthly I am sending them (Topbucks, Lightspeedcash etc.)
XM

They can obviously afford to take the risk or their own experiences have been lucky or good with affiliates from the countries they accept. To state that the % of fraud per affiliate from Slovakia and a few other countries isn't MUCH higher than the 'norm' is just blindness and/or ignorance. Of course I was exaggerating about the deposit and baby thing as this is GFY and I was just making a point. I have good business relationships with people in a few countries most sponsors wouldn't touch. However, I would still not let people from those countries promote my stuff unless I knew them VERY well.

It's simply about risk management. ANY business that wants to succeed and be around in the long term has to use it. The fact remains that certain countries are a much higher risk than others. Some can afford or ignore or absorb the risk and some may not see it as a risk, however it is very real.

Why is fraud higher? I have no idea. The most obvious explanation I can think of is that too many people feel that their country is detached enough to get away with theft. As a guy stated above isn't Slovakia meant to be coming into Europe? That being the case it may shift a little as the protection people feel will disappear and hopefully fraud with it. *shrug*

Again, the guy above, yourself or whoever may be the single most honest people alive for all I know but it's a case of risk management. Especially with smaller cash flow and transaction numbers, risk management is a very important thing.

Personally I've always wondered why people feel a need to argue the toss about their country presenting a bigger risk. Figures/facts rarely lie (and no - I wont post any of mine). Surely it's better to be pissed about the problem, admit it exists and do your best to make sure you prove yourself to be an exception rather than to deny there is a problem and generally simply cause even more suspicion?

While I think of it as I never mentioned it above, I must ask - what the fuck has roads, % of Internet users or computers owner etc etc got to do with anything?

Ignorance is never bliss.
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07-30-2003, 10:00 AM

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07-30-2003, 10:03 AM

Fuck all this bitching.

Just send ya traffic to CECash and focus on the email programs, paying some serious bling.
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07-30-2003, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by cezam

try emailing them with examples of your work and some info about how are you going to push their sites etc. some sponsors will accept you this way even when your country is banned.

not necesarly...
I am from Romania ..
Maxcash and Topbucks have accepted me after I e-mailed them, but there are still programs like nd or ars that even if you e-mail them explaining your status, and showing them that you can send a shitload with traffic to their sites ( otherwords , proving that you aint a cheater , and on the contrary ..) they will still refuse to let you in , giving you the " it's our TOS , we can't make any exceptions " bullshit.Though , there tons of sponsors that acept webmasters from all over the world, good sonsors like sunnydollards and others, and those are the ones that will get $$$$$$$ out of the 3'rd world webmasters asses, not nasty dollars or ars, sponsors that are over satured on the market, and convert like shit...
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