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Originally posted by OldJeff
I would have to think by not providing ID you just gave the cop probable cause to be a royal pain in your ass.
You could very well fit the description of someone they are looking for.
By the way, "Just Hanging Out" in public is against the law in most states, it is minor but they call it loitering.
A cop does and should have the right to ask for ID from ANYONE.
A cop needs probable cause to search you and you car / house etc. Refusal to provide ID when requested gives them "probable cause" to believe you are hiding something illegal.
Don't believe me, I suggest you try it, catch the cop in the right mood you just might win a trip downtown for a strip search.
And for the record, calling a cop names is assault, assault on a police officer is a crime everywhere, most will ignore it, catch the guy in a bad mood and you get fucked with a whole lot more than just showing the ID
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As has already been stated yes you may be required by law to have an id but to have to show it there needs to be probable cause and not just the fact that you are hanging out at a public park.
As far as loitering laws, those are laws designed for LEA to be able to harass you "legally."
They are not going to bother a family of 4 in the park for loitering, however a group of 4 "undesirables" they might....whether that definition means teens, hispanics, blacks whatever they wish to apply it to that day.