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07-23-2003, 03:06 PM

Bottom line is that everyone should listen to their lawyer and decide for themselves what level of risk they are willing to accept. And if you can not afford a lawyer, get another gig.

I would love to know who lightspeeds lawyer is. He has some brass balls, or his head in the sand along with Steve.

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07-23-2003, 03:10 PM

Let me hijack this thread to show off our newest Lightspeed Girl

Jordan Capri

Yes, she's 18, and *legally* adorable.

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07-23-2003, 03:11 PM

Steve -- in case you or anyone else is wondering, this sexeducation guy is a complete moron. Ignore him.

Big monkie -- Get over it. !8 is 18, period. And over the years I have known many 20+ year-old girls that have worn pigtails, ponytails, and have cuddled with teddy bears. Big deal. If you're worried about it, then stick to promoting MILF's and let Steve worry about Tawnee. Tawnee is in her 20's by the way. Tough shit if anyone doesn't like that she looks younger than she is. Good for her I say. Most women would kill to look 5 years younger than they are.

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07-23-2003, 03:16 PM

Can I edit that picture like that without breaking any rules???
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07-23-2003, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by CDSmith
Steve -- in case you or anyone else is wondering, this sexeducation guy is a complete moron. Ignore him.

Big monkie -- Get over it. !8 is 18, period. And over the years I have known many 20+ year-old girls that have worn pigtails, ponytails, and have cuddled with teddy bears. Big deal. If you're worried about it, then stick to promoting MILF's and let Steve worry about Tawnee. Tawnee is in her 20's by the way. Tough shit if anyone doesn't like that she looks younger than she is. Good for her I say. Most women would kill to look 5 years younger than they are.

18 is NOT 18 ...
you fail to realize what pornography is ...
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07-23-2003, 03:33 PM

Steve, why do you not reply to some of the questions throw out. Among all the shit, there are some legit questions. Put the booze down for a second and share your thoughts with us.

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07-23-2003, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by sexeducation

18 is NOT 18 ...
you fail to realize what pornography is ...
grow up ...

You really did fall off a turnip truck. I thought so a few days ago.
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07-23-2003, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by BradShaw
Steve, why do you not reply to some of the questions throw out. Among all the shit, there are some legit questions. Put the booze down for a second and share your thoughts with us.

... one thing I always liked about brad was/is his honesty, if there is one guy that always spoke/speaks the truth on message boards ... it´s him.
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07-23-2003, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by BradShaw
Steve, why do you not reply to some of the questions throw out. Among all the shit, there are some legit questions. Put the booze down for a second and share your thoughts with us.

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07-23-2003, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by BradShaw
Steve, why do you not reply to some of the questions throw out. Among all the shit, there are some legit questions. Put the booze down for a second and share your thoughts with us.

lol i love it with this creativity and im being serious this was fuckin hilarious wtf are u doing going along with ppl like CDSmith and 12Clicks!?
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07-23-2003, 04:00 PM

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Is this Tawney Stone ?

No, that's Anne Howe, I believe. I think her sets are sold at Garill and David Lace.
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07-23-2003, 04:02 PM

Acutally for those of you that don't know the law. All that is needed for you to be charged with child pornography is that the appearance of the model is that of someone underage. That judgement is in the hands of the DA. However it doesn't mean you will be convicted, obviously you are likely to have the documents to back up that the model is of legal age. But if you are all realistic, we know that being charged will carry drastic consequences regardless of whether you are convicted or not.

Your hosts and whoever else are likely to shut you down just for their own protection. You will also have every other aspect of your biz scrutinized.

I'm stunned at how many people on here are such dumbasses to argue the point of the black and white of the law, but never fail to understand that going to court is rarely all black and white and many times just being charged is enough to fuck you.

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07-23-2003, 04:06 PM

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... one thing I always liked about brad was/is his honesty, if there is one guy that always spoke/speaks the truth on message boards ... it´s him.

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07-23-2003, 04:09 PM

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hey, I was just looking at her site cause some asshole came into one of my surfer forums and posted a series of links to kiddy porn sites, and her website was buried in the list.

Just made me think, thats all.

Damn your grumpy

I can't believe nobody has asked this, but why the fuck were YOU looking through the list of CP links (especially down towards the bottom of the list)? It should have just been forwarded to the authorities and locked from the public eye once you saw at least 1 link leading to it. If you see 1 link thats CP, thats enough to go off of and report.
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07-23-2003, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by Digipimp
Acutally for those of you that don't know the law. All that is needed for you to be charged with child pornography is that the appearance of the model is that of someone underage. That judgement is in the hands of the DA. However it doesn't mean you will be convicted, obviously you are likely to have the documents to back up that the model is of legal age. But if you are all realistic, we know that being charged will carry drastic consequences regardless of whether you are convicted or not.

Your hosts and whoever else are likely to shut you down just for their own protection. You will also have every other aspect of your biz scrutinized.

I'm stunned at how many people on here are such dumbasses to argue the point of the black and white of the law, but never fail to understand that going to court is rarely all black and white and many times just being charged is enough to fuck you.

I already got it without protection my friend.
Quite the interesting chain of events.
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07-23-2003, 04:10 PM

Did someone post a CP link in this thread?
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07-23-2003, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by shermsshack

I can't believe nobody has asked this, but why the fuck were YOU looking through the list of CP links (especially down towards the bottom of the list)? It should have just been forwarded to the authorities and locked from the public eye once you saw at least 1 link leading to it. If you see 1 link thats CP, thats enough to go off of and report.

If this thread contains a child pornography link - it should be deleted immediately!!!

THE ENTIRE THREAD !!!
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07-23-2003, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by shermsshack

I can't believe nobody has asked this, but why the fuck were YOU looking through the list of CP links (especially down towards the bottom of the list)? It should have just been forwarded to the authorities and locked from the public eye once you saw at least 1 link leading to it. If you see 1 link thats CP, thats enough to go off of and report.

Hey dumbass reread what he said and you'll realize why no one pointed out what you thought you found Sherlock. He looked through the links as in scanning over them but not clicking them and saw her sites address and found it to be odd.

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07-23-2003, 04:16 PM

No one should link to any page containing a picture of Dick Clark.
He also looks much younger than he is.
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07-23-2003, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Let me hijack this thread to show off our newest Lightspeed Girl

Jordan Capri

Yes, she's 18, and *legally* adorable.

Now Steve, *that* girl blows Tawnee away. She is irresistable!!!

Edit: PS - thanks to linking us to a page with no pops

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07-23-2003, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by Digipimp

I'm stunned at how many people on here are such dumbasses to argue the point of the black and white of the law, but never fail to understand that going to court is rarely all black and white and many times just being charged is enough to fuck you.

The government can charge anyone with any crime any time always.

So what?

Using your argument, people shouldn't do porn at all because they might be charged with something and it might ruin their life. In fact, no one should ever leave their house because something might happen sometime somewhere.

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07-23-2003, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by sexeducation

If this thread contains a child pornography link - it should be deleted immediately!!!

THE ENTIRE THREAD !!!

you are so fucking stupid. leave this place troll and dont come back.
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07-23-2003, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by Carrie
No one should link to any page containing a picture of Dick Clark.
He also looks much younger than he is.

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07-23-2003, 04:44 PM

Steve takes extreme risks. I just hope it is worth it, and he saves plenty of $. Like I said, I would love for him to post his attorneys info, if he has one. Whoever advises him on business is too close to his inner circle I bet.

He is lucky to have Rochard, someone who is not a druggie idiot to run things. I have a feeling if Steve was running things, he would have already changed the name to smokeweedwithmecash.

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07-23-2003, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by BradShaw
I have a feeling if Steve was running things, he would have already changed the name to smokeweedwithmecash.

what's wrong with that?
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07-23-2003, 04:48 PM

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I have a feeling if Steve was running things, he would have already changed the name to smokeweedwithmecash.

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07-23-2003, 04:51 PM

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07-23-2003, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

The government can charge anyone with any crime any time always.

So what?

Using your argument, people shouldn't do porn at all because they might be charged with something and it might ruin their life. In fact, no one should ever leave their house because something might happen sometime somewhere.

You always take everything to the extreme so I can see where you come up with that load of shit.

What it means is that you have to be careful within reason to make sure that you are protecting yourself from malicious prosecution. You can only act within reason to protect yourself, you can never completely protect yourself from someone who is malicious in intent.

So what this means is as many places do they don't allow material that is " borderline" in legality, so that someone won't be able to construe it as possibly illegal. That is a reasonable and smart way to do business. Of course there is no absolute protection.

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07-23-2003, 05:51 PM

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A graphic of her had my website shut down.

Case closed - be careful ....
Be very careful ...

Graphic will be deleted from my server in a bit ...
I just want a few to know - I had this ... just a few ...

If you're talking about the pic I posted that's bullshit!
It's my content and I know exactaly how old she is..
And if it was on your site it had NO bizz being there in the first place!

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07-23-2003, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by Digipimp
I'm stunned at how many people on here are such dumbasses to argue the point of the black and white of the law, but never fail to understand that going to court is rarely all black and white and many times just being charged is enough to fuck you.

I on the other hand, am astounded by the number of foolios who failed to grasp the meaning of "Tawnee Stone has never been marketed as being underage"..... was it perhaps said incorrectly??

For the record, I have always said that marketing young 18+ women purposely as being little underage girls is wrong. I don't see too many here disagreeing with that, but that isn't really the focus of this thread and it's unfortunate title. The main point here hinges on whether anyone promoting Tawnee will go to jail. I say that is ludicrous. Here, I'll fucking say it again.... it's ludicrous.

Contrary to what the idiot newb sexidjumuhcashum would have you believe, 18 actually DOES mean 18........ as in legal. It doesn't matter if the model merely *looks* young. Of course it's different if she is purposely portrayed that way, but that isn't the case here.

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07-23-2003, 07:01 PM

13 are you on Crack. She looks her age about 18-20. And yes go look at MET art if you want models who are photgraphed to look 12-13.

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07-23-2003, 07:03 PM

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07-23-2003, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by Digipimp

You can only act within reason to protect yourself, you can never completely protect yourself from someone who is malicious in intent.

Risk assessment is a fact in any business. However, the other part of the argument is that you have a constitutional right to free speech and the reason that people on this board are legally allowed to promote porn at all is because people before them pushed boundaries and fought for those rights over the last few decades.

If certain early pioneers would have had the attitude of "we better not do anything that might offend anyone, even if it is legal," then you and I would be having this conversation at McDonald's. The question is, which side of the counter would each of us be on?

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07-23-2003, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by sexeducation

If this thread contains a child pornography link - it should be deleted immediately!!!

THE ENTIRE THREAD !!!

That damn turnip truck ran over you after you fell off too I see.
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07-23-2003, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

Risk assessment is a fact in any business. However, the other part of the argument is that you have a constitutional right to free speech and the reason that people on this board are legally allowed to promote porn at all is because people before them pushed boundaries and fought for those rights over the last few decades.

If certain early pioneers would have had the attitude of "we better not do anything that might offend anyone, even if it is legal," then you and I would be having this conversation at McDonald's. The question is, which side of the counter would each of us be on?

Hopefully I would be behind the counter, cause I sure could use a discount on double quarter pounder value meals.

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07-23-2003, 09:16 PM

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07-23-2003, 09:47 PM

Steve is no fool, he tries to fight child porn in the most public of manners. Heck, I know many people who do more than he does, but they feel no need to tell everyone on gfy. He added this to his biz model late 2002.

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07-23-2003, 09:55 PM

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That damn turnip truck ran over you after you fell off too I see.

We can only hope...*sigh*

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07-23-2003, 10:05 PM

18 years of age = 18 years of age. Legal = Legal.

You might also notice the "Model Age Verification" links at the bottom of Lightpseed sites. There is no underage implications. My girlfriend is 18 years of age. She often wears her hair in pigtails. Why? 'Cause it's cute. Not because she's pretending to be a 15 year old. Cute is what sells Tawnee Stone.

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07-24-2003, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by chodadog
18 years of age = 18 years of age. Legal = Legal.

You might also notice the "Model Age Verification" links at the bottom of Lightpseed sites. There is no underage implications. My girlfriend is 18 years of age. She often wears her hair in pigtails. Why? 'Cause it's cute. Not because she's pretending to be a 15 year old. Cute is what sells Tawnee Stone.

First I am not suggesting that you are or anyone in this thread is doing anything illegal.

However, pornography relates to the context of the graphic or art form.

For example; one could take that graphics out of a medical book and post just those graphics on a website and it would be considered child pornography.

And for example ...
one could take animations (no age) and present that artistic form as child pornography ..

And for example ...
one could pictures of adults - put them on a website - and through an over whelming of evidence have those same adult pictures be considered child porn. The evidence for that would the sum of ; the domain itself, the promotional links being used, the meta tag key words, and the overall look and feel of the website. And in that particular case - even adult pictures - could be considered child pornography.
Case specific - but yes - possible.

So with regards to the "law" - 18 is not necessarily 18, as it depends on your intent and purpose for those pictures.
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07-24-2003, 02:57 AM

Originally posted by sexeducation

First I am not suggesting that you are or anyone in this thread is doing anything illegal.

However, pornography relates to the context of the graphic or art form.

For example; one could take that graphics out of a medical book and post just those graphics on a website and it would be considered child pornography.

And for example ...
one could take animations (no age) and present that artistic form as child pornography ..

And for example ...
one could pictures of adults - put them on a website - and through an over whelming of evidence have those same adult pictures be considered child porn. The evidence for that would the sum of ; the domain itself, the promotional links being used, the meta tag key words, and the overall look and feel of the website. And in that particular case - even adult pictures - could be considered child pornography.
Case specific - but yes - possible.

So with regards to the "law" - 18 is not necessarily 18, as it depends on your intent and purpose for those pictures.

you have no fucking clue what you are talking about troll. it is sad that you think you know anything at all let alone anything about the adult biz. fuck off loser.
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07-24-2003, 03:13 AM

Originally posted by Digipimp

Hey dumbass reread what he said and you'll realize why no one pointed out what you thought you found Sherlock. He looked through the links as in scanning over them but not clicking them and saw her sites address and found it to be odd.

"hey, I was just looking at her site cause some asshole came into one of my surfer forums and posted a series of links to kiddy porn sites, and her website was buried in the list.

Just made me think, thats all.

Damn your grumpy"

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I just re-read is ass face. I'm sorry it wasn't common sense, but from what I read, he noticed it burried in the links (not stating whether he moused over it, or clicked the links).

Who cares. The fact is that the CP needs to be reported and locked away. Now shut the fuck up and lets grab a beer.
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07-24-2003, 03:36 AM

Can we please, please, PLEASE ban sexeducation.com/John Beacock forever. I am really sick and tired of potentially worthwhile threads being hijacked by this pathetic individual. I am a nobody here; I respect my nobodiness; I embrace it. I know GFY is not necessarily the place for serious business, but nonetheless I have found a lot of worthwhile information and discussion here. As long as sexeducation.com/John Beacock is around, every potentially worthwhile discussion is going to be hijacked. The very appearance of his nick/name on my screen makes me sick to my stomach. Please, mods, I beg of you, get this piece of scum out of here. The drama was amusing, for a while, but this guy makes my skin crawl.

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07-24-2003, 03:39 AM

Originally posted by Mishi
Can we please, please, PLEASE ban sexeducation.com/John Beacock forever. I am really sick and tired of potentially worthwhile threads being hijacked by this pathetic individual. I am a nobody here; I respect my nobodiness; I embrace it. I know GFY is not necessarily the place for serious business, but nonetheless I have found a lot of worthwhile information and discussion here. As long as sexeducation.com/John Beacock is around, every potentially worthwhile discussion is going to be hijacked. The very appearance of his nick/name on my screen makes me sick to my stomach. Please, mods, I beg of you, get this piece of scum out of here. The drama was amusing, for a while, but this guy makes my skin crawl.

simply use the ignore feature, works great for me.
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07-24-2003, 03:47 AM

Originally posted by funkmaster

simply use the ignore feature, works great for me.

I'm with you, funkmaster, but this piece of shit has spread himself over multiple threads on mulitiple boards and I am at the point that I am tired of having to ignore him. He's a thorn in many people's sides. We shouldn't have to take responsibility for his actions. He needs to go away. Now.

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07-24-2003, 03:51 AM

Originally posted by Mishi

I'm with you, funkmaster, but this piece of shit has spread himself over multiple threads on mulitiple boards and I am at the point that I am tired of having to ignore him. He's a thorn in many people's sides. We shouldn't have to take responsibility for his actions. He needs to go away. Now.

... in that case, put a bounty on his head, some tgp guys here are desperate and will do a nice job for less than $5 ... just watch for swoit sigs in their posts.
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07-24-2003, 03:51 AM

Originally posted by Mishi

I'm with you, funkmaster, but this piece of shit has spread himself over multiple threads on mulitiple boards and I am at the point that I am tired of having to ignore him. He's a thorn in many people's sides. We shouldn't have to take responsibility for his actions. He needs to go away. Now.

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07-24-2003, 03:52 AM

Originally posted by funkmaster

... in that case, put a bounty on his head, some tgp guys here are desperate and will do a nice job for less than $5 ... just watch for swoit sigs in their posts.

Would that I had $5!

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07-24-2003, 03:53 AM

Originally posted by Tala
There are people who are alive only because it's illegal to kill them.

Tala, I think you just put the words in the bunny's mouth. Or something like that.

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