Acacia - Grow Up!

extorsion is extorsion.

whether it's done with a thick necked guy named Gunther or in a court.

and the people who engage in such are skumbags.

JMM


Maybe you guys should in the very least consider linking all of the associated press clippings re IMPA Vs. Acacia on the IMPAI.ORG site for now -- at least until you get a real site up.

Believe it or not, there are a ton of people (big and small) who don't have a clue what's going on or who Acacia is.

JMM,
any comments?
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=155744
;-)))

We are going to do that. The website WILL be up no later than Friday. I guarantee it.

It appears they have now sent the marketing/Licensing package to my US office. Well I was in this fight before this and am still in it.

JMM is dead right, why do you think they picked on the Adult Internet and not the Porn Industry? We are going to be the easiast pickings.

Why? we are disorganised and unable to respond to this threat properly. Always remember this is a LEGAL US PATENT until it is changed in court.

You think they will go after Microsoft? Why should they when this industry will make them millions of dollars with little or no risks.

While I understand your points, JMM, the fact this board is called gofuckyourself and half of the names on here are made up and actually well known names here pretending to be other people, the fact anyone would take most of the posts here seriously is ridiculous at best.

I truly do wish cancer upon them, in my darkest of hearts. It doesn't mean I don't take the threat seriously. I haven't had the priveledge of the (alleged) extortion packet, but my attorney is on standby for when I am blessed with the honor.

I realize why ACACIA is going after us...because we as an industry actually make money and we are disorganized....or so it would appear, but they are going to find they fucked with the wrong industry. While some would dismiss this industry as a bunch of cockholsters and fuckups, I've met some of the greatest people Ive met in any industry. People that come from all walks of life, people who've come from rich families and people who were raised in extreme poverty all have made money in this industry.

What happens when ACACIA picks on the wrong company with "family" connections?

While I understand companies wanting to get paid for shit they own, IMHO, ACACIA is going about it the wrong way. They could have made a lot of money by being gentlemen about it but THEY were the ones who started being cocksuckers about this. THEY are the ones that are bringing this rage upon themselves.

So, yeah, I'm a businessman and I handle business in a like fashion, but this is fucking extortion, this isn't business. so, fuck them. I pray they all get cancer of the ass.

It still doesn't mean I'm less serious about this matter and it still doesn't mean my attorney will be any less prepared when I recieve the lucky extortion lottery ticket. I'll still be one pissed of motherfucker. I'm not whining or pissing and moaning, I've just had enough of this type of bullshit.

To quote from one of the greatest movies of all time "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore"

* sigh *

Tell me how comments like these help things?

You fail to understand business. Until proven otherwise, Acacia is legally in a position to do everything they are doing.

Has anyone from Countries such as Canada recieved a legal opinion on how it will effect us?
In the end, I think they will be defeated as there was streaming media produced before their patents. So lets come out fighting!!!

Like it's a fucking secret there is "family" money in this business?

I'm not saying I have those connections, but to act like they aren't in this business is plain ignorant.

uh yes it does matter where u live,
they can have fun charging a son of a parliment member in poland, they cant there u can get of court case easy when u have family in the parliment with a few dollars, have fun!

Great Post JMM

Very well said.






People.... DONATE: <b>www.impai.org</b> (now!)

Sykkboy2, there are no family or Mob or Mafia connections in the sex industry. I've been told that by all the leading players including AVN and the Free Speech Coalition. It must be true.

hahahahahahaha

see that guys? I was wrong...

also, my post was a rant, not a business discussion...seems some people can't tell the difference...I guess it's back to OCP to be re-programmed with new directives.......

The FACT remains that they are reading this board (and others) and they ARE taking comments on this board seriously.

What you fail to understand is that the court system is not a bunch of books and ornate buildings. The "court system" is comprised of people. Judges, clerks, bailiff's, etc, etc, etc. If you do have to face Acacia in court, rest assured that comments such as yours will come back to hurt you. If you don't believe that, then you are being naive.

BP4L

Since my ICQ is lighting up like a christmas tree after my little mini-rant

For the record, I do take the ACACIA threat seriously. I, personally, have not yet been served with their nifty package, so I'm not personally threatened yet. However, I understand the trickle down problems we face.

I have a lot of friends in this business living on very thin margins and can't really afford the 2% (especially retro-actively)

I realize this industry is never going to have a political ally in congress, but that doesn't mean someone should be able to come in and strongarm everyone.

My rant was basically what a lot of people are feeling. Everything I stated was opinion and while I'm sure the ACACIA's boys' mothers find them perfect little angels, I not happy with them or what they are doing (and trying to do). I'm doing legally what I can to protect myself and expete others to do likewise. However, a rant on a board called gofuckyourself is hardly anything to do with the way I do business.

ACACIA already looks at us as a bunch of dogs that need to be shot in the head and put down, a couple profanity-laden rants are hardly going to change that opinion anymore than saying "oh, the guys at ACACIA have huge penises and those guys rock"

I'm afraid he is right. They use to run the book shops on 42nd street, do you think they are all knuckle heads. Do you know who own some of the magazine publishers?

I don't think in their Southern California Lawyers lives they ever thought of it. They just saw it as a way to get rich.

No but it might make the judge think twice. Get real and realise they will use everything and anything they can to win this and remeber they have just been knocked down on the VCHIP patent. These guys are battle hardened and we are on their turf.

yup
and I should probably have reserved that part of my rant for a different post. I have no conncetions nor any personal knowledge of any "family" business in the online porn industry....my question was mroe rhetorical...what happens if they do fuck with someone who doesn't take as kindly to extortion?

Personsally, I have faith in my attorney and I have faith in the IMPA and I know that right will prevail.

whoops wrong thread LOL

i had to windows open 1 to the mafia thread and 1 to this thread, i miss read it.

obviously they dont sell drugs LOL!

I'm well aware of that. You also have to remember, I have a battle hardened attorney and one who has dealt with chatboard cases. I'm not stating anything other than opinion, I don't know any of the people over at ACACIA nor do I care. I'm not statring anything as fact that might be construed as slanderous.

JMM, you're doing an awesome job representing the IMPA. Props.

I can understand people wanted to speak their minds since the name of the site is GFY. In threads regarding serious issues we should focus our energies.

Whether Acacia is right or wrong, they hold a patent which needs to still be contested in a court. They believe they are right, so they're handing things the way they believe they should.

Most webmasters feel they are wrong.

All we can do for now is learn more about Acacia's claims and learn from IMPA what their claims are.

So on that note, we're talking about this issue in a few minutes with a guest from IMPA, JMM.

http://www.d-moneyshow.com (live)

JMM, while I appreciate what you are doing and I think you will win, the point of being offensive, rather than defensive, is probably a good one.

Acacia is not going to stop making more and more broader and broader claims until people start suing them and making them pay for the problems they are causing.

They can't just randomly claim anything they want and scare people into signing ridiculous contracts. The more people that sue them, the more that judges and other entities would have to start to look at Acacia's business practices.

Just because you say you have a patent on breathing doesn't mean you can threaten everyone on earth to sign a contract that gives you their first born or you are going to ruin their life.

What about this:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=155852

Well.. if they're wanting a portion of the adult industry's money, then they should aslo carry an adult industry tag...

Lots of headlines that their shareholders might find interesting..


"Acacia fights for a piece of the porn pie"

"Acacia goes after a share of porn industry profits"

"Acacia hates porn, but wants porn money"

If they want to make it a porn issue... why not help em out?