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  • miob
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2001
    • 314

    #1

    Freepassbucks refuses to pay !

    Ok, I have been testing out freepassbucks, after I reached the minimum payout my account got canceled and they refuse to pay. I asked them why, and all I got as an answer was : "fraud". I am 100% sure I didnt use any shady practises, just the common ways of advertising a 4free program.

    So, beware when thinking about this program, you can easily get canceled without any reason and they are absolutely not willing to explain you why.

    Thats what I call bad sponzor.
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  • juicylinks
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 122992

    #2
    how did you cheat them?

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    • The Truth Hurts
      Zph7YXfjMhg
      • Nov 2002
      • 15792

      #3
      what were the "common ways" you used?

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      • skillfull
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2003
        • 4716

        #4
        hum never had trouble with them you must cheat ;)
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        • miob
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2001
          • 314

          #5
          hahaha, i didn't cheat them, i didn't cheat any sponsor and anyone from webmasters, if someone knows me i'm sure will post that i'm trustable person..
          they was not willing to explain why they canceled me. all what

          i contacted them via ICQ, via emails, and after about week i finally got response "due to fraud", i think that's not good sponsor, because they can cancel anyone from you , without any notice, and i don't recommend them to anyone from you

          and even i have referred them 3 or 4 webmasters from my webmasters resources they piss on me...
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          • Argoz
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2002
            • 3006

            #6
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            • miob
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2001
              • 314

              #7
              do you want to see my stats from server, or bws how much i have burned ???

              wanna see URL ? no problem,
              i just don't like if sponsors behave like ignorants..

              it's not about that money that they screwed me , but it's about principle
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              • miob
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2001
                • 314

                #8
                and for info they are not my first email sponsor, i have used and use more email sponsors that are around, and never had any troubles with them, so why the hell they didn't like my traffic
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                • Niki
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 1476

                  #9
                  I know Miob long time and I'm more than sure that he didn't cheat them ...

                  and I would like to know too, why they've closed his account
                  Ivo

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                  • Platinum Albert
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2002
                    • 144

                    #10
                    Hello All:

                    It is in our best interest to PAY our webmasters. Please keep in mind that if you make money we make money. All business needs to be run with one single factor in mind, and that is profitibility.

                    We are an honest program with accurate stats and paying out webmasters on time. We have knowledgable sales staff and we are more then happy to communciate with you at all times.

                    We do not pay Fraudulent webmasters. Honest webmasters who earn an honest dollar is the simple truth to our success. We are not here to close accounts arbitrarily. WE at Platinum Bucks and FreePassbucks close accounts through a rigorous process of fraud control. We are professional in our managment and we are here to serve the webmaster.

                    Thanks for your patience. If you wish to send me any comments, you can reach me at [email protected]
                    Platinum Albert
                    Marketing and Communications
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                    • strobi
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 7383

                      #11
                      Just got my 1st freepassbucks check today... thx guys

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                      • AssFairy
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 674

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Platinum Albert
                        Hello All:

                        It is in our best interest to PAY our webmasters. Please keep in mind that if you make money we make money. All business needs to be run with one single factor in mind, and that is profitibility.

                        We are an honest program with accurate stats and paying out webmasters on time. We have knowledgable sales staff and we are more then happy to communciate with you at all times.

                        We do not pay Fraudulent webmasters. Honest webmasters who earn an honest dollar is the simple truth to our success. We are not here to close accounts arbitrarily. WE at Platinum Bucks and FreePassbucks close accounts through a rigorous process of fraud control. We are professional in our managment and we are here to serve the webmaster.

                        Thanks for your patience. If you wish to send me any comments, you can reach me at [email protected]
                        Are you a friend of 12clicks

                        This is an age old story where the sponsor becomes judge jury & executioner and I for one think its time it came to an end

                        This wee know they cheated but were not going to tell you how is wearing VERY thin and is almost certainly ILLEGAL, it makes sponsors look like thieves
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                        • stocktrader23
                          Let's do some business.
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 18781

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Platinum Albert
                          Hello All:

                          It is in our best interest to PAY our webmasters. Please keep in mind that if you make money we make money. All business needs to be run with one single factor in mind, and that is profitibility.

                          We are an honest program with accurate stats and paying out webmasters on time. We have knowledgable sales staff and we are more then happy to communciate with you at all times.

                          We do not pay Fraudulent webmasters. Honest webmasters who earn an honest dollar is the simple truth to our success. We are not here to close accounts arbitrarily. WE at Platinum Bucks and FreePassbucks close accounts through a rigorous process of fraud control. We are professional in our managment and we are here to serve the webmaster.

                          Thanks for your patience. If you wish to send me any comments, you can reach me at [email protected]
                          Here we go again.


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                          • Manga1
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 952

                            #14
                            Hmmm, miob has been around for years. I don't remember ever hearing anything bad about him.

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                            • Platinum Albert
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 144

                              #15
                              Hello All:

                              I wanted to make it very clear that once we deem a webmaster as fraudulent, it goes through a rigorous steps of fraud control. In addition, if this specific webmaster inquires and offers and explanation we will review the case on a secondary occassion.

                              In some overt cases, fraudulent webmasters attack an affiliate program on public forums and the public relations can be horrific.

                              Yet, it is difficult form the affiliate point of view to offer full explanations of their fraud controls simpy because it is unprofessional to release personal information on any public forum and affiliate programs are not here to teach other webmasters to learn how to fruad.

                              We want to make it very clear to all webmasters, we do want pay our webmasters.
                              Platinum Albert
                              Marketing and Communications
                              [email protected]
                              <a href="http://www.platinumbucks.com/">http://www.platinumbucks.com/</a>
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                              <a href="http://www.platinumbucks.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.platinumbucks.com/sales_tools/banners/PB/odd/133x31_1.gif" border="0" alt=""></a>

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                              • AssFairy
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 674

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Manga1
                                Hmmm, miob has been around for years. I don't remember ever hearing anything bad about him.
                                Neither have I but I just read something bad about freepassbucks
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                                • DarkJedi
                                  No Refunds Issued.
                                  • Feb 2001
                                  • 28301

                                  #17
                                  so how did he cheat ?

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                                  • miob
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2001
                                    • 314

                                    #18
                                    Ok, here is my account I used : "1102" if you are sure I was cheating tell me how?
                                    Otherwise pay what you owe.

                                    I am sure I have been falsely accused, but if you think different prove it !

                                    And do not tell me to mail someone, post it here so other webmasters can see it.
                                    I do not have anything to hide, so why should you?
                                    I know it is easy to tell it is unproffesional to talk about this on the boards, but I wouldnt even take it here if someone would explain it to me in private, which didnt happen.

                                    I am in business for almost 5 years, and something like this just makes me angry.
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                                    • ElvisManson
                                      Looking California
                                      • Feb 2001
                                      • 5476

                                      #19
                                      miob and Ass Fairy,

                                      there is no way that any sponsor who has accused you of Fraudulent activity is going to explain to you How they think or did catch you. I am not saying that you (miob) are guilty, only that if you are or if you are not isn't going to matter at this point.

                                      If you ask them to review your case they might...but they will never divulge to you how they catch fraud as it just invites even more fraud from WM that ARE dis-honest. And trust me on this...there are plenty of WM's that ARE lying cheating scumbags.

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                                      • Kimmykim
                                        bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                        • Jun 2001
                                        • 16015

                                        #20
                                        Elvis, you stop that ;)

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                                        • ElvisManson
                                          Looking California
                                          • Feb 2001
                                          • 5476

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                          Elvis, you stop that ;)
                                          I just wanted to type in Ass Fairy....my slang is changing with the times....

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                                          • 4Pics
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Dec 2001
                                            • 7952

                                            #22
                                            popcorn anyone?

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                                            • Toker
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 891

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Platinum Albert
                                              Hello All:

                                              It is in our best interest to PAY our webmasters. Please keep in mind that if you make money we make money. All business needs to be run with one single factor in mind, and that is profitibility.

                                              We are an honest program with accurate stats and paying out webmasters on time. We have knowledgable sales staff and we are more then happy to communciate with you at all times.

                                              We do not pay Fraudulent webmasters. Honest webmasters who earn an honest dollar is the simple truth to our success. We are not here to close accounts arbitrarily. WE at Platinum Bucks and FreePassbucks close accounts through a rigorous process of fraud control. We are professional in our managment and we are here to serve the webmaster.

                                              Thanks for your patience. If you wish to send me any comments, you can reach me at [email protected]
                                              Looks like a form letter to me!
                                              If you have nothing to hide WHY don't you tell him what he did to create the FRAUD?
                                              Seems like cover all bullshit to me and tou'd have been better off not even posting it!
                                              PeaceAlive and kicking

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                                              • Tipsy
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2001
                                                • 6989

                                                #24
                                                There is a HUGE difference between saying how you caught somebody and saying what the fraud was. If you are going to can somebody and not pay money legally owing (unless fraud is committed or the TOS violated) you should at least be able to state what the fraud was. Just very basic information will NOT give away any fraud detection 'secrets' as obviously the guy would already know what he was doing. Rarely do posts like this ask for proof or details of any of these fraud detection methods, just what the hell they were meant to be doing ie dodgy cc's, misleading links etc etc. Basic information can and should be provided and would keep some of the crap off of the boards.

                                                Amazes me how many people have difficulty with such a simple point.

                                                As a final point anyone who thinks accounts that are cancelled are always done so for a reason is very misguided. Sure, in the majority of cases the person is a cheating bastard but the systems are not infalible and mistakes are made.
                                                Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                • Toker
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                  • 891

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by strobi
                                                  Just got my 1st freepassbucks check today... thx guys
                                                  Gimmeeeeeeeeeee a Fuckin Break!
                                                  Reminds me of the old "You lie about it and I'll swear to it!"
                                                  PeaceAlive and kicking

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                                                  • miob
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                    • 314

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by ElvisManson
                                                    miob and Ass Fairy,

                                                    there is no way that any sponsor who has accused you of Fraudulent activity is going to explain to you How they think or did catch you. I am not saying that you (miob) are guilty, only that if you are or if you are not isn't going to matter at this point.

                                                    If you ask them to review your case they might...but they will never divulge to you how they catch fraud as it just invites even more fraud from WM that ARE dis-honest. And trust me on this...there are plenty of WM's that ARE lying cheating scumbags.


                                                    I see your point, and I have to say I agree with you.
                                                    On the other hand I dont like to get fucked for somthing I did not do.
                                                    I can live without the amount they owe me, its just a few bucks, but this is about principle.

                                                    I am willing to show them any information they want like : server stats, referal stats anything they want to prove the traffic was real, but what makes me angry is that they just say you have commited fraud and thats it. I simply will not let it pass this way. If I will not get my money at least the other webmaster can see who they are dealing with.

                                                    And if they dont want to go public with this, I ask them to send me a private mail or sticky me a msg here with the prove of me cheating, instead of ignoring my emails and ICQ msgs.
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                                                    • Odie
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                      • 7040

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by 4Pics
                                                      popcorn anyone?
                                                      I'd love some!!!
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                                                      • Snake Doctor
                                                        I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                        • Mar 2001
                                                        • 13449

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by ElvisManson


                                                        I just wanted to type in Ass Fairy
                                                        Something you want to tell us there Elvis?
                                                        sig too big

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                                                        • Niki
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                          • 1476

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ElvisManson
                                                          miob and Ass Fairy,

                                                          ... And trust me on this...there are plenty of WM's that ARE lying cheating scumbags.

                                                          yes, but Miob isn't one of them ...

                                                          Ivo

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                                                          • ElvisManson
                                                            Looking California
                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                            • 5476

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by miob




                                                            I see your point, and I have to say I agree with you.
                                                            On the other hand I dont like to get fucked for somthing I did not do.
                                                            I can live without the amount they owe me, its just a few bucks, but this is about principle.

                                                            I am willing to show them any information they want like : server stats, referal stats anything they want to prove the traffic was real, but what makes me angry is that they just say you have commited fraud and thats it. I simply will not let it pass this way. If I will not get my money at least the other webmaster can see who they are dealing with.

                                                            And if they dont want to go public with this, I ask them to send me a private mail or sticky me a msg here with the prove of me cheating, instead of ignoring my emails and ICQ msgs.
                                                            i agree with you completely...i have shut down many accounts for fraud while working for Python...but i am always willing to deal with people on an individual basis and work with someone that feels that they have been mistreated.

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                                                            • stocktrader23
                                                              Let's do some business.
                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                              • 18781

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by miob




                                                              I see your point, and I have to say I agree with you.
                                                              On the other hand I dont like to get fucked for somthing I did not do.
                                                              I can live without the amount they owe me, its just a few bucks, but this is about principle.

                                                              I am willing to show them any information they want like : server stats, referal stats anything they want to prove the traffic was real, but what makes me angry is that they just say you have commited fraud and thats it. I simply will not let it pass this way. If I will not get my money at least the other webmaster can see who they are dealing with.

                                                              And if they dont want to go public with this, I ask them to send me a private mail or sticky me a msg here with the prove of me cheating, instead of ignoring my emails and ICQ msgs.
                                                              I'll never use them after reading this thread and the one the other day. What do they owe you anyway $50?


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                                                              • ElvisManson
                                                                Looking California
                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                • 5476

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Lenny2


                                                                Something you want to tell us there Elvis?
                                                                I'll whisper it in your ear in Fl.

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                                                                • magnatique
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                  • 1830

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by ElvisManson
                                                                  miob and Ass Fairy,

                                                                  there is no way that any sponsor who has accused you of Fraudulent activity is going to explain to you How they think or did catch you. I am not saying that you (miob) are guilty, only that if you are or if you are not isn't going to matter at this point.

                                                                  If you ask them to review your case they might...but they will never divulge to you how they catch fraud as it just invites even more fraud from WM that ARE dis-honest. And trust me on this...there are plenty of WM's that ARE lying cheating scumbags.

                                                                  was just gonna say that, but the man said it better than I would

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                                                                  • WiredGuy
                                                                    Pounding Googlebot
                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                    • 34517

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by ElvisManson
                                                                    there is no way that any sponsor who has accused you of Fraudulent activity is going to explain to you How they think or did catch you. I am not saying that you (miob) are guilty, only that if you are or if you are not isn't going to matter at this point.
                                                                    Exactly what Brent said, there's no way a sponsor will reveal in exact detail why you were terminated. They'll always leave it general enough such as spam or fraud as in order to avoid fraudulent webmasters from signing up again and trying to get around their fraud filters. They certainly are willing to review your account though and if you have any documents in your defence, you should definitely send it to them.

                                                                    It does happen on occassion though that legitimate webmasters get terminated and it is unfortunate but it is needed to protect the sponsor's best interest.

                                                                    If you truly were not cheating them in any way, communicate it with Albert by email. It really is unprofessional to drag their name publicly like this.

                                                                    WG
                                                                    I play with Google.

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                                                                    • Toker
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                      • 891

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by ElvisManson
                                                                      miob and Ass Fairy,

                                                                      there is no way that any sponsor who has accused you of Fraudulent activity is going to explain to you How they think or did catch you. I am not saying that you (miob) are guilty, only that if you are or if you are not isn't going to matter at this point.

                                                                      If you ask them to review your case they might...but they will never divulge to you how they catch fraud as it just invites even more fraud from WM that ARE dis-honest. And trust me on this...there are plenty of WM's that ARE lying cheating scumbags.
                                                                      AS far as Webmasters go any fool that ever did Reviews for a TGP knows that!
                                                                      PeaceAlive and kicking

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                                                                      • AssFairy
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                        • 674

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by ElvisManson
                                                                        miob and Ass Fairy,

                                                                        there is no way that any sponsor who has accused you of Fraudulent activity is going to explain to you How they think or did catch you. I am not saying that you (miob) are guilty, only that if you are or if you are not isn't going to matter at this point.

                                                                        If you ask them to review your case they might...but they will never divulge to you how they catch fraud as it just invites even more fraud from WM that ARE dis-honest. And trust me on this...there are plenty of WM's that ARE lying cheating scumbags.
                                                                        blah blah blah blah ......

                                                                        All I see is that platinumbucks have unlawfully "withheld" money from miob

                                                                        If you think its legal for a company to turn round to an affiliate and say were keeping your money but we won't tell you why then you need to go shopping for a new head because the one your wearing now is fucked.

                                                                        Put this argument before a judge and he would laugh his ass of whilst throwing the book at platinumbucks
                                                                        I sale lube

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                                                                        • Toker
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                          • 891

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by WiredGuy


                                                                          Exactly what Brent said, there's no way a sponsor will reveal in exact detail why you were terminated. They'll always leave it general enough such as spam or fraud as in order to avoid fraudulent webmasters from signing up again and trying to get around their fraud filters. They certainly are willing to review your account though and if you have any documents in your defence, you should definitely send it to them.

                                                                          It does happen on occassion though that legitimate webmasters get terminated and it is unfortunate but it is needed to protect the sponsor's best interest.

                                                                          If you truly were not cheating them in any way, communicate it with Albert by email. It really is unprofessional to drag their name publicly like this.

                                                                          WG
                                                                          Seems to me like this was in one of the top posts!
                                                                          "i contacted them via ICQ, via emails, and after about week i finally got response "due to fraud"
                                                                          PeaceAlive and kicking

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                                                                          • ElvisManson
                                                                            Looking California
                                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                                            • 5476

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Toker

                                                                            AS far as Webmasters go any fool that ever did Reviews for a TGP knows that!
                                                                            Apparently not.

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                                                                            • Tipsy
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 6989

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by ElvisManson


                                                                              i agree with you completely...i have shut down many accounts for fraud while working for Python...but i am always willing to deal with people on an individual basis and work with someone that feels that they have been mistreated.
                                                                              If true then that's what should happen and kudos to you. The over-used 'I can't tell you why we closed you but it was fraud and/or you must have cheated' is the most some programs will give which is shaky at best. I suppose they rely on people not being able to afford court or the sums being too small so that they are never taken there, otherwise they would then have to show why they are not paying monies owed. But then that's this business all over. Common business practice or professional attitudes are rare unfortunately.

                                                                              One thing I've liked about adult.com is that they seem to at least say why an account was canned if pushed usually in a big font and on this board where a lot of people can see it exposing the cheat to all - but then cheats shouldn't be dumb enough to start threads bitching especially on the programs own board. Mind you, 99% of the people canned from programs do tend to be cheating bastards - just unfortunately not all.
                                                                              Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                                              • ElvisManson
                                                                                Looking California
                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                • 5476

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by AssFairy

                                                                                blah blah blah blah ......

                                                                                All I see is that platinumbucks have unlawfully "withheld" money from miob

                                                                                If you think its legal for a company to turn round to an affiliate and say were keeping your money but we won't tell you why then you need to go shopping for a new head because the one your wearing now is fucked.

                                                                                Put this argument before a judge and he would laugh his ass of whilst throwing the book at platinumbucks
                                                                                I never said that this policy was fair...cause in many ways it is VERY unfair to WM's in General as sometimes innocent WM's get screwed.....but it is a reality. no sponsor on the net is going to reveal how they scrub for fraud... nor would they tell you even what the fraud was for even that piece of info can lead to ways around how the Fraud scrubbing works.

                                                                                if you don't like the rules don't play the game.

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                                                                                • WiredGuy
                                                                                  Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                  • 34517

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by AssFairy
                                                                                  Put this argument before a judge and he would laugh his ass of whilst throwing the book at platinumbucks
                                                                                  Not if the webmaster was cheating PB... not saying anyone has here, just pointing out that termination without a reason is an acceptable means.

                                                                                  WG
                                                                                  I play with Google.

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                                                                                  • chowda
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                    • 9527

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Platinum Albert
                                                                                    Hello All:

                                                                                    I wanted to make it very clear that once we deem a webmaster as fraudulent, it goes through a rigorous steps of fraud control. In addition, if this specific webmaster inquires and offers and explanation we will review the case on a secondary occassion.

                                                                                    In some overt cases, fraudulent webmasters attack an affiliate program on public forums and the public relations can be horrific.

                                                                                    Yet, it is difficult form the affiliate point of view to offer full explanations of their fraud controls simpy because it is unprofessional to release personal information on any public forum and affiliate programs are not here to teach other webmasters to learn how to fruad.

                                                                                    We want to make it very clear to all webmasters, we do want pay our webmasters.
                                                                                    doesnt stop 12clicks from posting my personal information here.
                                                                                    Someone finds you...
                                                                                    2007

                                                                                    PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

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                                                                                    • WiredGuy
                                                                                      Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                      • 34517

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by chowda
                                                                                      doesnt stop 12clicks from posting my personal information here.
                                                                                      Don't feel bad, I got terminated on Mojosearch for no reason as well. I just blacklist all their programs. In fact, I should thank him, I make much more with my traffic now then I could have ever with those pay per search / pay per click things.

                                                                                      WG
                                                                                      I play with Google.

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                                                                                      • miob
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                                        • 314

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Exactly what Brent said, there's no way a sponsor will reveal in exact detail why you were terminated. They'll always leave it general enough such as spam or fraud as in order to avoid fraudulent webmasters from signing up again and trying to get around their fraud filters. They certainly are willing to review your account though and if you have any documents in your defence, you should definitely send it to them.
                                                                                        Wg as I said in above posts (like Toker outlined), I have contacted them via email and ICQ, it took a week to tell me they terminated me because of fraud, I mailed them again that it must be an error, I tried that 2 or 3 times without any reaction, the last time I told them to take a look at it or I take it to boards, so here I am.

                                                                                        Do you really believe I would fight for those fucking $50 bucks if I was cheating? Like I said i dont really care for the money what I care for is that I have been accused of cheating and that blows my mind. I am sure you are in the biz as long if not longer than I, wouldnt it set you up to be called a fraudulent webmaster? I for sure know it pissed me of, thats why I am talking about it.
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                                                                                        • Platinum Dave
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Mar 2001
                                                                                          • 2441

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Ah the fraudulent webmaster

                                                                                          Gotta deal with Fraud everyday.

                                                                                          WE ARE EXPERTS!!!

                                                                                          Next time you put in emails and confirm them yourself.

                                                                                          Think about the possibility of logging in to our site with some of your FAKE EMAILS.

                                                                                          We track download volume for all your emails, Fraud control is TOP NOTCH at Free Pass Bucks

                                                                                          Sorry we caught ya, I will now pass your name to all the other email programs so you can not attempt to STEAL and comitt fraud no more.

                                                                                          If anyone else would like to email me to check your system if he is cheating you email me I will let you know his details.

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                                                                                          • AssFairy
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                                            • 674

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by WiredGuy


                                                                                            Not if the webmaster was cheating PB... not saying anyone has here, just pointing out that termination without a reason is an acceptable means.

                                                                                            WG
                                                                                            Porn is no different to any other business, they HAVE to abide by the law.

                                                                                            miob wants his money and PB refuse to discuss the case and have appointed THEMSELVES to be the judge, if you think that's legal then you need to get a clue.

                                                                                            This happens WAY too much, just because you own the company doesn't mean that your not the thief and it certainly don't put you above the law.

                                                                                            PB are breaking the law, end of story.
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                                                                                            • chowda
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                              • 9527

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              ... let them settle it at internext. end this post now!
                                                                                              Someone finds you...
                                                                                              2007

                                                                                              PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

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