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Something I've never understood about the movie Terminator

07-18-2003, 10:01 AM

In the first Terminator movie, Arnold Schwarzenegger (the terminator) is sent back in time by the machines to kill Sarah so John is never born.

In the 2nd movie, Arnold Schwarzenegger (the terminator) is sent back in time by the humans to protect John from the new terminator that the machines have sent back.

Why is Arnold Schwarzenegger now working for the humans in the 2nd movie? How did that happen?

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07-18-2003, 10:04 AM

Actually in the second movie John Connor sends back the terminator himself.

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07-18-2003, 10:07 AM

what? u guys got it all wrong, in the first one, john sends it back in time to protect himself, and in the second one, the girl programmed the terminator to come back and protect them, that's why the terminator wasn't taking orders from john

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07-18-2003, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by mjrools23
what? u guys got it all wrong, in the first one, john sends it back in time to protect himself, and in the second one, the girl programmed the terminator to come back and protect them, that's why the terminator wasn't taking orders from john

What? In the first one the terminator's mission is to KILL Sarah Connor

In the 2nd he only take orders from John Connor

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07-18-2003, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by mjrools23
what? u guys got it all wrong, in the first one, john sends it back in time to protect himself, and in the second one, the girl programmed the terminator to come back and protect them, that's why the terminator wasn't taking orders from john

In the second one .. The terminator was sent back by John...

The terminator took ALL the orders from John.. Dont you remember scenes like when John told him to stand on one leg?

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07-18-2003, 10:13 AM

Well in the Xtermintor if your name was sara connor you got fucked.

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07-18-2003, 10:15 AM

Maybe when part 4 comes out, Arnold will be Governor of California and his mission will be to go back in time and lay the smackdown on the Bush family.
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07-18-2003, 10:16 AM

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Maybe when part 4 comes out, Arnold will be Governor of California and his mission will be to go back in time and lay the smackdown on the Bush family.

ummm.....Arnold is a republican

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07-18-2003, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by BRISK
In the first Terminator movie, Arnold Schwarzenegger (the terminator) is sent back in time by the machines to kill Sarah so John is never born.

In the 2nd movie, Arnold Schwarzenegger (the terminator) is sent back in time by the humans to protect John from the new terminator that the machines have sent back.

Why is Arnold Schwarzenegger now working for the humans in the 2nd movie? How did that happen?

In the 2nd movie, the future John Connor captured a Terminator and reprogrammed it.

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07-18-2003, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by mjrools23
what? u guys got it all wrong, in the first one, john sends it back in time to protect himself, and in the second one, the girl programmed the terminator to come back and protect them, that's why the terminator wasn't taking orders from john

And if you think about it, the terminator didnt really give a rats ass about Sarah..

It was John who ordered the terminator to go help rescue Sarah from the insane asylum.

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07-18-2003, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by Jeffery

In the 2nd movie, the future John Connor captured a Terminator and reprogrammed it.

Aaaahhh....ok....it's been a few years since I watched it. I couldn't remember how they explained that.

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07-18-2003, 11:38 AM

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07-18-2003, 11:43 AM

And the whole way they displayed time travel and paradox's was such bullshit.

In terminator 2 it was the first terminator coming back in time that allowed the scientists to develop the machines to build the terminators. like the chicken before the egg thing but even worse. T3 should be good, it better not be a thrown together copy of T2 which it could be.

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07-18-2003, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by mjrools23
what? u guys got it all wrong, in the first one, john sends it back in time to protect himself, and in the second one, the girl programmed the terminator to come back and protect them, that's why the terminator wasn't taking orders from john

#1 Skynet sent the robot back to kill John's mother
#2 Humans captured one of Skynet's robots, reprogramed it and sent it back to protect John
#3 I don't know yet, haven't seen it. Waiting for the dvd since the movie theaters here have shitty Bose speakers.
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07-18-2003, 12:07 PM

What I never understood was why they don't send 'em back with those big ass guns they were toting in the future. Also, why they don't send back like a dozen of em. They were being manufactured at a high rate it seemed. It was always one.
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07-18-2003, 12:12 PM

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#1 Skynet sent the robot back to kill John's mother
#2 Humans captured one of Skynet's robots, reprogramed it and sent it back to protect John
#3 I don't know yet, haven't seen it. Waiting for the dvd since the movie theaters here have shitty Bose speakers.

#3, john connars wife sent a reprogrammed t1000 to save john and his wife.

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07-18-2003, 12:15 PM

It's all not real, it is just what the Matrix wanted John Connor to believe what was real.
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07-18-2003, 12:16 PM

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And the whole way they displayed time travel and paradox's was such bullshit.

In terminator 2 it was the first terminator coming back in time that allowed the scientists to develop the machines to build the terminators. like the chicken before the egg thing but even worse. T3 should be good, it better not be a thrown together copy of T2 which it could be.

ya thats stupid. there shouldn't have been any machines if one had to go back in time for it to be created.
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07-18-2003, 12:18 PM

Something I dont understand is that if you follow the timeline, the entire second movie should have disappeared from existence.

yet my DVD is still here. wtf?

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07-18-2003, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by DonnelKobe
What I never understood was why they don't send 'em back with those big ass guns they were toting in the future. Also, why they don't send back like a dozen of em. They were being manufactured at a high rate it seemed. It was always one.

They could only send "humanoids" (hence being naked) and it was a VERY difficult process, hence just the one robot.

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07-18-2003, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by DrGuile

They could only send "humanoids" (hence being naked) and it was a VERY difficult process, hence just the one robot.

Dont look to closely at the Terminator stories.... its for your own good...

Okay... but obviously you have looked closely at the terminator stories... so:

A) if what you say is true about humanoids only... what's the deal with the liquid metal guy... Isn't he metal though he appears fleshy?

B) why send them back to different times??

C) thinking too much now huh?
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07-18-2003, 12:34 PM

well if you look at it this way, skynet was going to develop the terminators no matter what, but when they got the samples from t1 it speed up the process.

TO FUCK WITH YOUR HEAD AND THE WHOLE SPACE-TIME THEORY BS:

How could miles or whateve the black dudes name is be the one to create the terminator for skynet if it hadn't been developed yet only studied BUT since they had obtained the samples that would thus change the future meaning he was the one who did it anyways.

So in short, they fucked up the whole past creating a new future. Which funny enough is what each movie plot is based on trying to do by killing people.

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07-18-2003, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by DonnelKobe

Okay... but obviously you have looked closely at the terminator stories... so:

A) if what you say is true about humanoids only... what's the deal with the liquid metal guy... Isn't he metal though he appears fleshy?

B) why send them back to different times??

C) thinking too much now huh?

B) how else can arnold make 30 million a movie if it was right after the second one? lol

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07-18-2003, 12:41 PM

Don't you know? A machine is a machine, you can programm it to be good or bad, same thing with Arnold, first time he was bad second time he was good. It's as simple as that.

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07-18-2003, 12:43 PM

i havent seent the movie yet since im not a Terminator fan.
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07-18-2003, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by mjrools23
what? u guys got it all wrong, in the first one, john sends it back in time to protect himself, and in the second one, the girl programmed the terminator to come back and protect them, that's why the terminator wasn't taking orders from john

In Terminator 1 Sarrah Connor didn't have the luxury of having a metal killing machine to protect her. Instead she just got regular human...

You got 2 mixed up with 1 and 2 mixed up with 3.

The reason why John didn't send the Terminator back himself is becasue he's dead. The very Terminator that finally killed John in the future is the one that protects him in the past.
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07-18-2003, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by BRISK

ummm.....Arnold is a republican

well then he can shoot himself in the face when he's done.
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07-18-2003, 01:58 PM

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Well in the Xtermintor if your name was sara connor you got fucked.

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07-18-2003, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by cherrylula

well then he can shoot himself in the face when he's done.

Wrong, he can't self Terminate

Well in the Xtermintor if your name was sara connor you got fucked.

How many sara connor's did he take in that movie anyway? Imagine if his targets last name was smith, rodrigues, or chan he'd have to kill an entire city
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07-18-2003, 03:16 PM

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07-18-2003, 03:27 PM

Ok, the whole Terminator story does not make any sence!

Do you remember who Jonh Connors father is?
It's the guy that John Connor sent back to guard his own mother!
So, if that guy was sent back in time, BY John Connors, then originally John Connors father must have been someone else!
And if that guy (who was sent back in time by John Connors) impregnated Sara, then John Connor would have been someone totally different!!!

Now you can talk about the chicken before the egg!!
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07-18-2003, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by Gunni
Ok, the whole Terminator story does not make any sence!

Do you remember who Jonh Connors father is?
It's the guy that John Connor sent back to guard his own mother!
So, if that guy was sent back in time, BY John Connors, then originally John Connors father must have been someone else!
And if that guy (who was sent back in time by John Connors) impregnated Sara, then John Connor would have been someone totally different!!!

Now you can talk about the chicken before the egg!!

But we already know that Douglas Quaid is John Connors father.

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07-18-2003, 03:43 PM

Yes, but who sent him back to the past?
John Connor right?

Don't you get it! How can John Connor, who theoratically has never been born, send someone back to the past, that then get's his mother pregnant with him?
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07-18-2003, 03:52 PM

the theories won't match up anyhow you make it, it's a movie..

but what pissed me off is the flaw:

Remember when they reached that bunker, and John already set the denimite to ON, and then he says "There is no way I can stop this"
About 5 min in that bunker, he just clips a switch and it switches off..
now wtf is that for a 10M+ movie?
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07-18-2003, 03:59 PM

To make it realistic, they could have made the father someone else! And he Should have been protecting an already pregnant woman. It shouldnðt be an exuse that it's a movie, just means the script is bad!

It's like Minority Report, good movie, but fucked up in the end with a tiny little detail
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07-18-2003, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by Gunni
Yes, but who sent him back to the past?
John Connor right?

Don't you get it! How can John Connor, who theoratically has never been born, send someone back to the past, that then get's his mother pregnant with him?

because in the future he HAS been born

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07-18-2003, 04:24 PM

But to change the past, you have to be a part of the past!
Don't you see, it is like someone to day would send sombody kill Ghandi's mother, and some one else would send someone to protect her, because Ghandi was a great man. Now lets say the guy that is supposed to protect her, get's her pregnant, then he would be changing Ghandi, and the whole future, then ghandi might not have been such a great man. And there would have been no reason to send someone to protect him in the first place!

It's a circle that can not be closed! Maybe He became a great man because of hs father from the future, but if he wasn't a great man before the father came to the past, why would they send someone to protect him?
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