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  • buddyjuf

    #701
    700

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    • 12clicks
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jan 2001
      • 19814

      #702
      Originally posted by bdjuf


      I was just kidding, of course
      No, I really WAS calling you fat.
      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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      • buddyjuf

        #703
        Originally posted by 12clicks


        No, I really WAS calling you fat.
        me? fat?

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        • 12clicks
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jan 2001
          • 19814

          #704
          Originally posted by bdjuf


          me? fat?
          I don't know. yes?
          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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          • photoshop777
            Registered User
            • May 2003
            • 24

            #705
            Great thread...couple of quick questions from a newbie

            What do you believe would be a reasonable estimate as to the net earnings of some of the more senior webmasters on this site?

            Are CJ2 sites the way to go or would you suggest TGP?

            What would be the best way to purchase a domain name that already has SE traffic?

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            • GeXus
              Confirmed User
              • May 2003
              • 3320

              #706
              How do I get #1 placement on the hun

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              • 12clicks
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jan 2001
                • 19814

                #707
                Originally posted by photoshop777
                Great thread...couple of quick questions from a newbie

                What do you believe would be a reasonable estimate as to the net earnings of some of the more senior webmasters on this site?
                20k a year. no shit.

                Originally posted by photoshop777
                Are CJ2 sites the way to go or would you suggest TGP?
                I don't care for either but if you must, TGP.

                Originally posted by photoshop777
                What would be the best way to purchase a domain name that already has SE traffic?
                surf thru the SEs and look for sites that don't look updated and write the guy an email.
                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                • 12clicks
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 19814

                  #708
                  Originally posted by GeXus
                  How do I get #1 placement on the hun
                  Ask him how much it costs and then pay.
                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                  • MrSpeed
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2003
                    • 158

                    #709
                    If someone came up to you and said I want to make some money on the internet what would you say ?

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                    • photoshop777
                      Registered User
                      • May 2003
                      • 24

                      #710
                      Can you please explain the business model for paysites.

                      They pay webmasters $40 per signup. They offer the surfer a 3 day trial membership for $3.95 or a 1 month membership for $30.

                      Most surfers don't stick around very long I would assume. Taking that into account and bandwidth costs, how can a paysite be profitable?

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                      • 12clicks
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jan 2001
                        • 19814

                        #711
                        Originally posted by MrSpeed
                        If someone came up to you and said I want to make some money on the internet what would you say ?
                        Go work for a porn company and learn. Once you understand the business, strike out on your own.
                        unless your a chick, then just give me a call.
                        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                        • 12clicks
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 19814

                          #712
                          Originally posted by photoshop777
                          Can you please explain the business model for paysites.

                          They pay webmasters $40 per signup. They offer the surfer a 3 day trial membership for $3.95 or a 1 month membership for $30.

                          Most surfers don't stick around very long I would assume. Taking that into account and bandwidth costs, how can a paysite be profitable?
                          well, plenty of people WILL forget to cancel so you make the recurring. Exits are worth something, there are plenty of signups that come in "untracked"
                          All those things fall to the bottom line.
                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                          • photoshop777
                            Registered User
                            • May 2003
                            • 24

                            #713
                            What is it that makes thehun.com so profitable. For the surfers it's great, the site treats them royally, but there really is no force to buy anything.

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                            • photoshop777
                              Registered User
                              • May 2003
                              • 24

                              #714
                              Originally posted by 12clicks

                              well, plenty of people WILL forget to cancel so you make the recurring. Exits are worth something, there are plenty of signups that come in "untracked"
                              All those things fall to the bottom line.
                              You mentioned earlier that surfers were to smart for CJ sites. Would you suggest that I create a TGP or AVS site to begin with?

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                              • 12clicks
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 19814

                                #715
                                Originally posted by photoshop777
                                What is it that makes thehun.com so profitable. For the surfers it's great, the site treats them royally, but there really is no force to buy anything.
                                sheer volume.
                                give me a million people a day and I'll make sales on dogshit.
                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                • Marcus
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 3472

                                  #716
                                  12clicks,

                                  If you were going to start a personals site, what would you do to generate excitement to get people to join? How do you make it look like it's a busy site with a lot of action going on?

                                  When you start it theres noone joined yet so every search will bring up 0 results.

                                  Would you write up fake profiles with fake pictures?

                                  Also if you allow people to send you nudes of themselves and you post them are you really openning yourself up to legal action or are sites like voyeurweb pretty well protected against legal action?

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                                  • 12clicks
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 19814

                                    #717
                                    Originally posted by photoshop777


                                    You mentioned earlier that surfers were to smart for CJ sites. Would you suggest that I create a TGP or AVS site to begin with?
                                    actually, my first choice would be a paysite. then if you must, a tgp.
                                    a successful tgp is a very time consuming thing
                                    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                    • Marcus
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 3472

                                      #718
                                      Originally posted by 12clicks

                                      actually, my first choice would be a paysite. then if you must, a tgp.
                                      a successful tgp is a very time consuming thing
                                      You dont like avs?
                                      I was just thinking that, is this a bad time to get into avs if you've never made avs sites before?

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                                      • photoshop777
                                        Registered User
                                        • May 2003
                                        • 24

                                        #719
                                        12clicks, thanks for your open answers, it's great to learn some stuff about this industry.

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                                        • 12clicks
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 19814

                                          #720
                                          Originally posted by Marcus
                                          12clicks,

                                          If you were going to start a personals site, what would you do to generate excitement to get people to join? How do you make it look like it's a busy site with a lot of action going on?

                                          When you start it theres noone joined yet so every search will bring up 0 results.

                                          Would you write up fake profiles with fake pictures?

                                          Also if you allow people to send you nudes of themselves and you post them are you really openning yourself up to legal action or are sites like voyeurweb pretty well protected against legal action?
                                          I'd buy real profiles from an established personals site then try to trade or give traffic to that site to build a biz relationship and hopefully entice them to mentor you in the biz.
                                          if people submitted nudes, I would put them in a seperate area so people would not stumble upon them by accident but only see them if they wanted to.
                                          I wouldn't worry about the legalities.
                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                          • Marcus
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 3472

                                            #721
                                            Originally posted by 12clicks

                                            I'd buy real profiles from an established personals site then try to trade or give traffic to that site to build a biz relationship and hopefully entice them to mentor you in the biz.
                                            if people submitted nudes, I would put them in a seperate area so people would not stumble upon them by accident but only see them if they wanted to.
                                            I wouldn't worry about the legalities.
                                            ah I didn't know other personals sites would be open to this. I figured they wouldn't want new competition.

                                            Thanks 12clicks

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                                            • 12clicks
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 19814

                                              #722
                                              Originally posted by Marcus


                                              You dont like avs?
                                              I was just thinking that, is this a bad time to get into avs if you've never made avs sites before?
                                              I really think it is a bad time but I've always had a bias against them so take that with a grain of salt.
                                              There may be avs guys who will tell you to go for it but without someone knowledgable's help, I don't see how you'd succeed.
                                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                              • 12clicks
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jan 2001
                                                • 19814

                                                #723
                                                Originally posted by photoshop777
                                                12clicks, thanks for your open answers, it's great to learn some stuff about this industry.
                                                how do you know I'm telling the truth?
                                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                • 12clicks
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 19814

                                                  #724
                                                  Originally posted by Marcus


                                                  ah I didn't know other personals sites would be open to this. I figured they wouldn't want new competition.

                                                  Thanks 12clicks
                                                  they ALL might not be but you only need one to say yes.
                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                  • photoshop777
                                                    Registered User
                                                    • May 2003
                                                    • 24

                                                    #725
                                                    In starting a pay site, what would you consider the minimum amount of content, ie pics, movies, stories, live feeds?

                                                    Would you consider doing this all in house or outsourcing it to knowledgeable vendors? If you chose the later, what are some of the more well known vendors?

                                                    How often would you update a paysite?

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                                                    • 12clicks
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                      • 19814

                                                      #726
                                                      Originally posted by photoshop777
                                                      In starting a pay site, what would you consider the minimum amount of content, ie pics, movies, stories, live feeds?

                                                      Would you consider doing this all in house or outsourcing it to knowledgeable vendors? If you chose the later, what are some of the more well known vendors?

                                                      How often would you update a paysite?
                                                      Shit, you could have build a whole paysite with the big sale jstyles had last month.
                                                      There is so much cheap content out there to buy in bulk, building a paysite is easy. And don't worry about it being unique. what are the chances that joe surfer has seen all your content before? slim. update every 3 days. do everything inhouse. DO NOT give part of your earnings to anyone.
                                                      its ok to buy some movie plugins but thats it.
                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                      • completetosser
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                        • 1419

                                                        #727
                                                        Originally posted by 12clicks


                                                        how do you know I'm telling the truth?
                                                        Because you are at God's right hand

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                                                        • Plan9
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                          • 1801

                                                          #728
                                                          Do you think the industry is oversaturated with people just trying to make a quick buck? And will this hurt the chances of someone just starting out?

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                                                          • 12clicks
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                            • 19814

                                                            #729
                                                            Originally posted by Plan9
                                                            Do you think the industry is oversaturated with people just trying to make a quick buck? And will this hurt the chances of someone just starting out?
                                                            sure, the average age of webmasters here is abour 22. not worldly enough or business savvy enough to see beyond tomorrow.
                                                            yes, it will hurt everyone's entry into the biz
                                                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                            • TheGuyWhoKnows
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                              • 160

                                                              #730
                                                              how long is your dick 12Clicks?
                                                              ******


                                                              ICQ: 663-073-144

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                                                              • 12clicks
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 19814

                                                                #731
                                                                Originally posted by TheGuyWhoKnows
                                                                how long is your dick 12Clicks?
                                                                I've never messured but its been said many times in this business that I have big balls.
                                                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                • mistersoft
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                  • 1021

                                                                  #732
                                                                  Hi 12clicks,

                                                                  and thank you for the best thread I have read on this forum.

                                                                  My personal goal within this biz is to promote a single use plastic pussy which the user fills with warm water. I think it is a good idea, since the user will want to use it while surfing for free (or paid porn). It is also a nice product in that many who order it once, will order it again and again and again. I also hope that this may be a good product to market as the porn is quite saturated.

                                                                  I have two goals.
                                                                  First and most important I want as many webmasters as possible to join the affiliate program.

                                                                  Secondly I would like to get people to buy the product.


                                                                  What would your recommendations be?

                                                                  Thanx,
                                                                  mister soft
                                                                  SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                                                  • eiht_98
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                    • 6103

                                                                    #733
                                                                    are u still answering questions

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                                                                    • 12clicks
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                      • 19814

                                                                      #734
                                                                      Originally posted by mistersoft
                                                                      Hi 12clicks,

                                                                      and thank you for the best thread I have read on this forum.

                                                                      My personal goal within this biz is to promote a single use plastic pussy which the user fills with warm water. I think it is a good idea, since the user will want to use it while surfing for free (or paid porn). It is also a nice product in that many who order it once, will order it again and again and again. I also hope that this may be a good product to market as the porn is quite saturated.

                                                                      I have two goals.
                                                                      First and most important I want as many webmasters as possible to join the affiliate program.

                                                                      Secondly I would like to get people to buy the product.


                                                                      What would your recommendations be?

                                                                      Thanx,
                                                                      mister soft
                                                                      you could entice webmasters to sell it by giving one to every webmaster who makes at least 5 sales. That would be one way to get affiliates. Outside of that, get the product out there. Buy TGP banner spots and the like so its seen by tons of eyeballs. Use a easily remembered url on the banner and make the front page memorable.
                                                                      Use testimonials like, "This is the best pussy I've ever had. It does everything but cook"
                                                                      revshare with all of the big sex toy product sellers.
                                                                      That's a start.
                                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                      • 12clicks
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                        • 19814

                                                                        #735
                                                                        Originally posted by eiht_98
                                                                        are u still answering questions
                                                                        yes
                                                                        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                        • photoshop777
                                                                          Registered User
                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                          • 24

                                                                          #736
                                                                          Originally posted by 12clicks

                                                                          Shit, you could have build a whole paysite with the big sale jstyles had last month.
                                                                          There is so much cheap content out there to buy in bulk, building a paysite is easy.
                                                                          So why is it that people say you need 10K or there abouts to start a paysite?

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                                                                          • photoshop777
                                                                            Registered User
                                                                            • May 2003
                                                                            • 24

                                                                            #737
                                                                            So heres the big question for 12clicks. Would you take me under your wing and train me in the ways to financial freedom. Kind of like my own personal trainer

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                                                                            • mistersoft
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                              • 1021

                                                                              #738
                                                                              Originally posted by 12clicks

                                                                              you could entice webmasters to sell it by giving one to every webmaster who makes at least 5 sales. That would be one way to get affiliates. Outside of that, get the product out there. Buy TGP banner spots and the like so its seen by tons of eyeballs. Use a easily remembered url on the banner and make the front page memorable.
                                                                              Use testimonials like, "This is the best pussy I've ever had. It does everything but cook"
                                                                              revshare with all of the big sex toy product sellers.
                                                                              That's a start.
                                                                              Thanx. Good solid advice as far as I can judge. Will follow.

                                                                              (*proudly* the part about free samples to webmasters is already implemented :-) )

                                                                              I have one detail question though, what is revshare and how does one set it up?

                                                                              Mister Soft




                                                                              SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                                                              • 12clicks
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                • 19814

                                                                                #739
                                                                                Originally posted by photoshop777


                                                                                So why is it that people say you need 10K or there abouts to start a paysite?
                                                                                to scare people away.
                                                                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                • Fabuleux
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                  • 2543

                                                                                  #740
                                                                                  Can you make this thread longer then that one one Sexeducation?

                                                                                  Ahh Please...


                                                                                  What do you think of my new site? (you can spit on it, as long as I can learn from it.)

                                                                                  SexpicsNOW!

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                                                                                  • 12clicks
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                    • 19814

                                                                                    #741
                                                                                    Originally posted by photoshop777
                                                                                    So heres the big question for 12clicks. Would you take me under your wing and train me in the ways to financial freedom. Kind of like my own personal trainer
                                                                                    Nope, I'm way to busy. If I'm not mistaken, none of the questions in this thread deals with what I REALLY do. This is all just knowledge of come by along the road leading to where I am now.
                                                                                    I'm always happy to point people in the right direction via icq but to actually take someone under my wing, I just don't have that kind of time.
                                                                                    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                    • 12clicks
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                      • 19814

                                                                                      #742
                                                                                      Originally posted by mistersoft


                                                                                      Thanx. Good solid advice as far as I can judge. Will follow.

                                                                                      (*proudly* the part about free samples to webmasters is already implemented :-) )

                                                                                      I have one detail question though, what is revshare and how does one set it up?

                                                                                      Mister Soft




                                                                                      revshare, you know, just splitting profits with your partner.
                                                                                      You won't get anyone to BUY your goods wholesale to re-sell them but you will get people to sell YOUR stock and just take a piece of the profit.
                                                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                      • buddyjuf

                                                                                        #743
                                                                                        how old are you?
                                                                                        can you post a picture of your car and your house?
                                                                                        how much do you make a year on average?
                                                                                        why did you choose the nickname 12clicks?

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                                                                                        • 12clicks
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                          • 19814

                                                                                          #744
                                                                                          Originally posted by Fabuleux
                                                                                          Can you make this thread longer then that one one Sexeducation?

                                                                                          Ahh Please...


                                                                                          What do you think of my new site? (you can spit on it, as long as I can learn from it.)

                                                                                          SexpicsNOW!
                                                                                          a quick look has me wondering where you plan on making money?
                                                                                          its TOO free.
                                                                                          for example, your amateur links should have different sponsors for each gallery. DIFFERENT. same with your other categories. let them see every sponsor on the planet. They need choices or at least the opportunity to see something new in a sponsor.
                                                                                          I do like the layout and all but there's so much free stuff! a surfer could live there for free and never pull out a CC.
                                                                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                          • Fabuleux
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • May 2003
                                                                                            • 2543

                                                                                            #745
                                                                                            Originally posted by 12clicks

                                                                                            a quick look has me wondering where you plan on making money?
                                                                                            its TOO free.
                                                                                            for example, your amateur links should have different sponsors for each gallery. DIFFERENT. same with your other categories. let them see every sponsor on the planet. They need choices or at least the opportunity to see something new in a sponsor.
                                                                                            I do like the layout and all but there's so much free stuff! a surfer could live there for free and never pull out a CC.
                                                                                            I need some script that can handle a shitload of galleries and thumbs, but there are so many, don't know what to buy

                                                                                            But thanks, I make it less "free"

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                                                                                            • 12clicks
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                              • 19814

                                                                                              #746
                                                                                              Originally posted by bdjuf
                                                                                              how old are you?
                                                                                              can you post a picture of your car and your house?
                                                                                              how much do you make a year on average?
                                                                                              why did you choose the nickname 12clicks?
                                                                                              39
                                                                                              my car has been posted before E320 nothing special.
                                                                                              don't think I have a pic of the house. 6900sq ft of living space, library (full of books), wine cellar (with wine), granite, marble, ceramic, pavers outside, murals, the usual.
                                                                                              I make more than I ever thought possible 7 yrs ago.
                                                                                              My nickname comes from serge. when I first started in this biz I sent him traffic because of mojo. upon meeting serge he made fun of me by saying,"oh yeah, I know bigron 12clicks" It was a humbling experience and as my traffic grew I decided that it was funny to be someone with more clicks than god announcing he only has 12.
                                                                                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                              • buddyjuf

                                                                                                #747
                                                                                                Originally posted by 12clicks

                                                                                                I make more than I ever thought possible 7 yrs ago.
                                                                                                that is not a number...
                                                                                                how much do you make a year? in NUMBERS?

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                                                                                                • 12clicks
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                  • 19814

                                                                                                  #748
                                                                                                  Originally posted by bdjuf


                                                                                                  that is not a number...
                                                                                                  how much do you make a year? in NUMBERS?
                                                                                                  I'm not telling.
                                                                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                  • malakajoe
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                                                    • 1751

                                                                                                    #749
                                                                                                    Say you have a small amateur site....just one girl who is doing it for a little extra cash.

                                                                                                    What would be the best way to promote this site, since not many major players will use your as an affiliate?

                                                                                                    What would be the best way to get quality traffic, since friends pages and tgp traffic doesn't do well for smaller sites?

                                                                                                    I have this burning itch all around my butthole after getting very drunk and passing in a biker bar. How can I cure it?
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                                                                                                    • buddyjuf

                                                                                                      #750
                                                                                                      Originally posted by 12clicks

                                                                                                      I'm not telling.
                                                                                                      then I guess your NOT answering ALL questions

                                                                                                      THIS THREAD IS A FAKE!

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