Music Industry subpoenas ISP's records for users with most downloads

yes or warez or illegal porn.

the music industry is fucking themselves with tactics like this.... royally fuck over your own customers and soon you shall have none.

I pulled out all my HD's and putting them in a safe deposit box

people will always buy music.
they see albums as a collectors peice,

only reason that keeps them in biz.

It's all Mettallica's fault!

Mettallica sucks

I won't.

How could ISP's make a difference to p2p downloads VS regular downloads,

If its just bandwidth than i am fucked,, I do enough constant uploads and download just for general webmastering

LOL no kidding...we're all targets here

bad boys, bad boys what you gonna do , what you gonna do when they come for you....
let's see the bright side: no more p0rn movies shared on kazaa

I gonna be fucked if they take all my computers

That is why i do all my downloading in my office at work. We have a singular IP with sub ips and as a company we use all the bandwidth we can muster all day.


So take a drive into work, download till your hearts content, take the drive home, and you are golden....

but shhhhh

don't tell my boss

Jesus christ, that is retarded. i can't believe they would sue over someone over the continued use of the two chords.

or post about it on a chat board ;-)))

That´s not gonna happen. Even if they gave away that information customers would close there isp accounts and never come back.

How does this affect streaming music like webradio?

indeed... thieving fuckers, hope their all afraid to log into kazaa soon..

Me either. Except for small label classical stuff, I'll never buy another CD again. Fuck the RIAA.

this is the dumbest thing ive read in awhile.

'"People are going to get on our case again for this, but try to see it from our point of view just once," stated Metallica's Lars Ulrich. "We're not saying we own those two chords, individually - that would be ridiculous. We're just saying that in that specific order, people have grown to associate E, F with our music."

I have friends who teach music for a living, i dont associate e/f with with metallica, holw fucking full of yourself can you be Lars? hahaha

next thing ozzy and sabbath are gonna start suing bands for downtuning hahaha

or maybe Angus will sue people who tune E Flat

Metallica are as lame as a band can get I think.

sad, they once rocked.

Me Too!

Not gonna happen? They're court ordered subpoenas to hand over all the customer records pertinent to the top users with the most downloads. The ISP's are already complying.

They are afraid to download music right now because the RIAA is taking civil action to go after users who do this.

The adult industry needs to create a body that does the exact same thing. Until then people will not stop downloading porn as there is no one taking action against them.

And once you do take action there will be another way. Instead of trying to kill p2p you should use it to help drive business.

Suing another band for using the F chord after the E chord.

That is beyond comical. I thought it was something like 5 or 7 sequenced elements that is allowable until you're violating someone else's song.

Metallica sold out big time... saw them on MTV once and there all clean cut now, clean shaven now

no no no no
some people need to learn to harness the power of P2P ;-)

I could give out my tips, tricks and secrets, but not right now, I don't wan to give my competition all of my tools until I've used and abused them enough ;-)

pack out boys., im surely gonna miss the songs.

That's why these babies are so good, I gotta stack of 'em


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I went CNN.com and I cant find any info on these subpoenas. I want to know, if I'm in their sights.

Oh, Metallica thing:

HOAX

You missed part of my post


Instead of trying to kill p2p you should use it to help drive business.

I have to problems with the clean cut shit... my problem is here was a band that was BUILT on tape trading and people passing around bootlegs....why do you think Master made the BillBoard charts with no videos or radio play? People like me who were passing around as many copies of tapes as I could to get their names out there.....most would check it out and then go buy the album themsevels and more importantly BOUGHT TICKETS to see them play live.


Boycotting CD's means fuckall,...stop going to live shows, stop buying tshirts and merchandise...that's the way to send a message.......

I agree artists need to be compensated for their efforts...I just find it weird two of the biggest Napster anti's were Metcallica who built themselves in the early years through tapetrading and Dr. Dre who had no problems stealing other peoples' music to use in his own songs (oops, sorry, that was caled "sampling")

sorry, missed that

yeah, kazaa and the like can be very powerful promo tools indeed.....

Thank you. Saved me from 'splaining

HR 2517 IH


108th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 2517
To enhance criminal enforcement of the copyright laws, educate the public about the application of copyright law to the Internet, and clarify the authority to seize unauthorized copyrighted works.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

June 19, 2003
Mr. SMITH of Texas (for himself, Mr. BERMAN, and Mr. CONYERS) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary



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A BILL
To enhance criminal enforcement of the copyright laws, educate the public about the application of copyright law to the Internet, and clarify the authority to seize unauthorized copyrighted works.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Piracy Deterrence and Education Act of 2003'.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

The Congress finds as follows:

(1) The Internet, while changing the way our society communicates, has also changed the nature of many crimes, including the theft of intellectual property.

(2) Trafficking in copyrighted works through increasingly sophisticated electronic means, including peer-to-peer file trading networks, Internet chat rooms, and newsgroups, threatens lost jobs, lost income for creators, lower tax revenue, and higher prices for honest purchasers.

(3) The most popular peer-to-peer file trading software programs have been downloaded by computer users over 200,000,000 times. At any one time there are over 3,000,000 users simultaneously using just one of these services. Each month, on average, over 2,300,000,000 digital-media files are transferred among users of peer-to-peer systems.

(4) Many computer users either do not know that copyright laws apply to Internet activity or simply believe that they will not be caught or prosecuted for their conduct.

(5) In addition, many of the computer users drawn to the convenience of peer-to-peer systems do not realize that these systems pose serious security and privacy threats to their personal computers or company networks. Recent studies reveal that the majority of the users of these systems are unable to tell what files they are sharing and sometimes incorrectly assume they were not sharing any files when in fact they were sharing all files on their hard drive.

(6) The security and privacy threats posed by peer-to-peer networks extend beyond users inadvertently enabling a hacker to access files. Millions of copies of one of the most popular peer-to-peer networks contain software that could allow an independent company to take over portions of users' computers and Internet connections and has the capacity to keep track of users' online habits.

(7) In light of these considerations, it is important that Federal law enforcement agencies actively pursue criminals who steal the copyrighted works of others, and prevent such activity through enforcement and awareness. It is also important that the public be educated about the security and privacy risks associated with being connected to an unauthorized peer-to-peer network.

(8) In addition, the Bureau of Customs and Border Protection of the Department of Homeland Security has the authority to act against infringements of copyrighted works, including those works protected under the Berne Convention and the Agreement on Trade Related Aspects of Intellectual Property of the World Trade Organization. Under United States law, merchandise can be seized by or forfeited to the Bureau of Customs and Border Protection if `it is merchandise or packaging in which copyright, trademark, or trade name protection violations are involved' (section 596(c)(2)(C) of the Tariff Act of 1930 (19 U.S.C. 1595a(c)(2)(C)).

(9) Though the regulations of the Bureau of Customs and Border Protection (section 133.31 of title 19, Code of Federal Regulations) provide that registered copyrighted works may be recorded with the Bureau for `import protection,' recordation is not explicitly required before infringing merchandise can be seized or forfeited. Notwithstanding present legal authority, there have been concerns raised about the authority of the Bureau of Customs and Border Protection to seize infringing copyrighted materials that have neither been registered with the United States Copyright Office or recorded with the Bureau.

(10) Neither United States nor foreign works require registration with the Copyright Office for protection of the copyright in those works. United States works require registration only before an action for infringement is brought under title 17, United States Code. A foreign work need not be registered to bring such an action for infringement, and none of the rights contained in title 17, United States Code, including the right to control distribution in section 106 of that title or importation under section 602 of that title, are contingent upon registration. In accordance with the international obligations of the United States barring the use of formalities, United States law gives foreign copyright owners direct access to United States courts and procedures without resort to any registration requirement, and section 603 of title 17, United States Code, directs the Secretary of the Treasury and the United States Postal Service to separately or jointly make regulations for the enforcement of the provisions of title 17, United States Code, prohibiting importation.

(11) Notwithstanding the preceding provisions of this section, the Bureau of Customs and Border Protection has been unclear about its legal authority to seize infringing copyrighted materials that have neither been registered with the Copyright Office nor recorded with the Bureau. To provide clarity, it is necessary to specify the authority of the Bureau of Customs and Border Protection to seize infringing materials protected by the copyright laws, with or without registration or recordation.

SEC. 3. DETERRENCE AND COORDINATION.

The Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation shall--

(1) develop a program to deter members of the public from committing acts of copyright infringement by--

(A) offering on the Internet copies of copyrighted works, or

(B) making copies of copyrighted works from the Internet,

without the authorization of the copyright owners; and

(2) facilitate the sharing among law enforcement agencies, Internet service providers, and copyright owners of information concerning activities described in subparagraphs (A) and (B) of paragraph (1).

The program under paragraph (1) shall include issuing appropriate warnings to individuals engaged in an activity described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) that they may be subject to criminal prosecution.

SEC. 4. DESIGNATION AND TRAINING OF AGENTS IN COMPUTER HACKING AND INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY UNITS.

(a) DESIGNATION OF AGENTS IN CHIPS UNITS- The Attorney General shall ensure that any unit in the Department of Justice responsible for investigating computer hacking or responsible for investigating intellectual property crimes is assigned at least one agent to support such unit for the purpose of investigating crimes relating to the theft of intellectual property.

(b) TRAINING- The Attorney General shall ensure that each agent assigned under subsection (a) has received training in the investigation and enforcement of intellectual property crimes.

SEC. 5. EDUCATION PROGRAM.

(a) ESTABLISHMENT- There shall be established within the Office of the Associate Attorney General of the United States an Internet Use Education Program.

(b) PURPOSE- The purpose of the Internet Use Education Program shall be to--

(1) educate the general public concerning the value of copyrighted works and the effects of the theft of such works on those who create them;

(2) educate the general public concerning the privacy, security, and other risks of using the Internet to obtain unauthorized copies of copyrighted works;

(3) coordinate and consult with the Department of Education on compliance by educational institutions with applicable copyright laws involving Internet use; and

(4) coordinate and consult with the Department of Commerce on compliance by corporations with applicable copyright laws involving Internet use.

SEC. 6. CUSTOMS RECORDATION.

(a) REGISTRATION AND INFRINGEMENT ACTIONS- Section 411(a) of title 17, United States Code, is amended by inserting after the first sentence the following: `An action for infringement of the copyright in any United States work shall not include any action brought by the Government of the United States or by any agency or instrumentality thereof.'.

(b) INFRINGING IMPORTATION- Section 602(a) of title 17, United States Code, is amended by inserting before the period at the end of the first sentence the following: `, regardless of whether that work has been registered with the Copyright Office or recorded with the Bureau of Customs and Border Protection of the Department of Homeland Security'.

(c) IMPORTATION PROHIBITIONS- Section 603(a) of title 17, United States Code, is amended by inserting before the period the following: `of copies or phonorecords of a work protected under this title, regardless of whether that work has been registered with the Copyright Office or recorded with the Bureau of Customs and Border Protection of the Department of Homeland Security'.

SEC. 7. INFRINGEMENT WARNING NOTICE.

The Attorney General shall, within 3 months after the date of the enactment of this Act, set forth criteria under which copyright owners designated by the Attorney General will be able to use the seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation for deterrent purposes in connection with physical and digital copies and phonorecords and digital transmission of their works of authorship.