recurring vs one-time payout, your thoughts?

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  • kisskatlyn
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2003
    • 433

    #1

    recurring vs one-time payout, your thoughts?

    I will be making the decision to either offer a recurring 50-60% or a one time payout with a new paysite I am building. From what I've seen of most sponsors the trend seems to be the one time payout, but is that really what you as a webmaster prefer to receive??
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  • lil2rich4u2
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    • Oct 2002
    • 11046

    #2
    dunno ... i personally would rather use per signup, but so many of the good sites only offer recurring since they are so small ...
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    • Kimmykim
      bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
      • Jun 2001
      • 16015

      #3
      Whichever of the two can return the most money to my bank account within a reasonable amount of time. What's reasonable to me? I think 30-45 days max, I don't want to be dependant on someone else's efforts to keep a member recurring, especially since the overwhelming majority of members do not recur, no matter what some people will tell you.

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      • wimpy
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2003
        • 607

        #4
        Originally posted by Kimmykim
        the overwhelming majority of members do not recur, no matter what some people will tell you.
        There's some honesty.
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        • James King
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2003
          • 130

          #5
          Katlyn!

          I'd really like to commission you for some exsclusive content for a new shemale paysite I'm building. How can I contact you and how much do you charge?

          I've got to say you're one of the most realistic pre-ops I've ever seen.

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          • Snake Doctor
            I'm Lenny2 Bitch
            • Mar 2001
            • 13449

            #6
            If you want to have a lot of webmasters promoting your site then pay per signup is the way to go.

            You'll need a hefty bankroll to be able to do that though
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            • kisskatlyn
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2003
              • 433

              #7
              Originally posted by James King
              Katlyn!

              I'd really like to commission you for some exsclusive content for a new shemale paysite I'm building. How can I contact you and how much do you charge?

              I've got to say you're one of the most realistic pre-ops I've ever seen.
              uh yah, I don't have a penis, but thanks anyway

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              • FlyingIguana
                aspiring banker
                • Mar 2002
                • 10870

                #8
                assuming a quality site with a reasonable price and i would go recurring anyday of the week.

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                • kisskatlyn
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 433

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Lenny2
                  If you want to have a lot of webmasters promoting your site then pay per signup is the way to go.

                  You'll need a hefty bankroll to be able to do that though
                  yah I would imagine that would be the case. I was thinking of working with a recurring until I had income coming in and then going to a per signup...but I wanted to post this thread to get people's feedback b/c I didn't know what was preferred.

                  thanks for your reply

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                  • gothweb
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 8849

                    #10
                    Unless you have deep pockets, don't start out with pay per signup. Until you have some really solid math on what to expect, you stand a serious chance of losing a ton of money if you pick the wrong payout point.

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                    • Marcus
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 3472

                      #11
                      I just wasted 8 months heavily promoting a revshare program. Now I'm back to promoting per signup and making alot more money (for me anyways) and happy about it.

                      I'll never do revshare again unless the sponsor cuts me a special deal.

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                      • buddyjuf

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Marcus
                        I just wasted 8 months heavily promoting a revshare program. Now I'm back to promoting per signup and making alot more money (for me anyways) and happy about it.
                        thanx for your experience!

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                        • stocktrader23
                          Let's do some business.
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 18781

                          #13
                          Originally posted by James King
                          Katlyn!

                          I'd really like to commission you for some exsclusive content for a new shemale paysite I'm building. How can I contact you and how much do you charge?

                          I've got to say you're one of the most realistic pre-ops I've ever seen.
                          Go smoke a pole assclown.


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                          • kisskatlyn
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 433

                            #14
                            Originally posted by gothweb
                            Unless you have deep pockets, don't start out with pay per signup. Until you have some really solid math on what to expect, you stand a serious chance of losing a ton of money if you pick the wrong payout point.
                            I can imagine. I would never start with that because I don't have deep pockets to begin with lol but wanted to know people's preference in general. I suspected it would be paypersignup by a landslide but it's not...people are divided, that is cool

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                            • James King
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 130

                              #15
                              Originally posted by kisskatlyn


                              uh yah, I don't have a penis, but thanks anyway
                              haha good one! Like I said, you're realistic, but not that realistic! A true enthusiast can still see that "I'm a nasty tranny whore" thing peeking through! So how much for some shots?

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                              • Marcus
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2001
                                • 3472

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                especially since the overwhelming majority of members do not recur, no matter what some people will tell you.
                                do you think theres anything the small site owner can do about that? add more content? lower prices? or do you think the surfer gets bored no matter what and will leave?

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                                • Snake Doctor
                                  I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                  • Mar 2001
                                  • 13449

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by kisskatlyn


                                  I can imagine. I would never start with that because I don't have deep pockets to begin with lol but wanted to know people's preference in general. I suspected it would be paypersignup by a landslide but it's not...people are divided, that is cool
                                  No it is a landslide, pay per sign up dwarfs partnership.

                                  Don't let a handful of responses on a webmaster board fool you. You're going to have a really hard time getting people to promote your site(s) with a 50/50 or 60/40 program.
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                                  • p00p
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2002
                                    • 5125

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by James King
                                    Katlyn!

                                    I'd really like to commission you for some exsclusive content for a new shemale paysite I'm building. How can I contact you and how much do you charge?

                                    I've got to say you're one of the most realistic pre-ops I've ever seen.
                                    hahaha.....
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                                    • KidCock
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 788

                                      #19
                                      I think people woill prefer a pay-per-signup unless you have a proven record of 3-4 month member retention (or however long it takes for renewals to make more than the pay per sigup)

                                      Webmasters will and should go with whatever makes the more money.....ofcourse if it taskes loneg than 3 months as said above, it might start losing its attractiveness....

                                      ie. if you make $35 per sigup, but only $32 if they renew for 3 months, signup will be better.....if they make $50 in 6 months, thats too long.

                                      If they can make more than signup in 3-4 months top, then its good (assuming your avg member stays that long)

                                      btw excuse moi but im really tryin hard to type without werrors drunkenn ;p

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                                      • spooky181
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2003
                                        • 2951

                                        #20
                                        A site with heaps of exclusive niche content will always have a high rate of recurring. 3 to 4 months is a pretty easy average to maintain for this type of site.

                                        Spooky

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