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Im glad you just proved my point. See. I Have driven a vette hard. I drive one hard everyday. Theres no way on this earth that an evo or a wrx even compares to the vette. Put the three of them on ANY paved road track and tell them to race. Put the SHITTIEST driver in the vette. The vette, lets make it a c5, will handle better, corner better, have a higher top speed, and will out perform. Win. EVERYTIME.Originally posted by volante
You're right about the Vettes being known worldwide for their handling - they're known for how BADLY they handle. Every wonder why very few places outside the US (with all it's long, straight roads) bother selling Vettes? Only the Z06 (put the "C06" down to dodgy typing skills) is worth bothering with, and you won't get one of those for $30k.
Drive a Vette. Hard. Then drive an Evo or a WRX. I have. The Vette doesn't stand a chance.
Then find out what "handling" means ("Handling" is not the same as "cornering", and sustained lateral g is more dependant on tyre size than handling ability) before accusing me of not knowing what I'm talking about, you'll sound less stupid.
Whatever you think your saying about lateral g is completely False. Tire size plays a role, but Its ALL about how the car handles. If tire size is the biggest part of "sustained lateral g" then slap some 11" wide rims on your precious evo, and wrap them with 315 pirelli tires. Lets see you pull a g now! YOU STILL CANT! Handling has EVERYTHING to do with pulling "G's" in a turn.
Before you get your panties in a bunch (the trash talking just adds to the flavor of the fight, nothing personal), ill show you your error. Your confusing the Viper with the corvette. The vipers are known for BAD handling (compared to the vette). The viper will outrun the vette in a straight line, but the road has to turn somewhere. And that my friend is where the vette is most famous. So before you come back with a response. Make damn sure that your talking about a corvette here.Last edited by RightHandMan; 07-16-2003, 01:37 AM.
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This is fun! Yes, I'm talking about Corvettes, but I'll make it clear that I'm NOT talking about the Z06, which is an excellent car. And I agree with you about the Viper, although I haven't driven one so I'm only going by what I read in the motoring press.Originally posted by RightHandMan
Im glad you just proved my point. See. I Have driven a vette hard. I drive one hard everyday. Theres no way on this earth that an evo or a wrx even compares to the vette. Put the three of them on ANY paved road track and tell them to race. Put the SHITTIEST driver in the vette. The vette, lets make it a c5, will handle better, corner better, have a higher top speed, and will out perform. Win. EVERYTIME.
Whatever you think your saying about lateral g is completely False. Tire size plays a role, but Its ALL about how the car handles. If tire size is the biggest part of "sustained lateral g" then slap some 11" wide rims on your precious evo, and wrap them with 315 pirelli tires. Lets see you pull a g now! YOU STILL CANT! Handling has EVERYTHING to do with pulling "G's" in a turn.
Before you get your panties in a bunch (the trash talking just adds to the flavor of the fight, nothing personal), ill show you your error. Your confusing the Viper with the corvette. The vipers are known for BAD handling (compared to the vette). The viper will outrun the vette in a straight line, but the road has to turn somewhere. And that my friend is where the vette is most famous. So before you come back with a response. Make damn sure that your talking about a corvette here.
But there is no way, NO WAY that a C5 is better than a WRX or Evo in anything other than a straight line (this is something we're not likely to ever agree on by the looks of things though
). Personal experience, and EVERYTHING I have ever read or seen about Vettes, confirms that they handle terribly compared to the WRX, Evo or just about any other "performance" car.
With reference to handling and track times, Road And Track magazine recently did a feature on the worlds best handling cars:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....ber=1&preview=
Look at the car in fourth place - it's an Evo VII (not the newer and better Evo VIII which is on sale in the US). Look at the car in fifth place - it's a Z06. Thats the old Evo beating a new Vette in a handling test (they didn't test the WRX). The guy who did the driving for the times and statistics was a guy you may have heard of called Bryan Herta, who is fairly well known for being able to drive a bit.
Before the Z06, Vettes were crap unless they were going in a straight line. Just about every motoring journalist outside of the USA thinks so and says so. Most of the motoring journalists inside the USA are too scared of losing advertisers to give a bad review...
Incidentally, have a look at the R&T article and check out the Lotus Elise. Only 122bhp, a slightly lower skidpan g than the Z06 (by 0.01 g!), yet through the slalom it's the fastest car R&T have ever tested.
Now THAT'S a car that handles well, and a 200hp version is coming to the USA
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One positive benefit is merging to the interstate road before getting hit from behindOriginally posted by lingolizzard
under 6 seconds to the next stop light, why do people care how fast it can get to 60?
I once drove a 89 Mazada 323, and it used to scare me shitless trying to merge with on coming traffic with cars doing 80+ miles comming from behindComment
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Has to be the WRX - serious amont of flair in that beauty!Comment
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fuck cars, get a bikeComment
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1970's american muscle car.Comment
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I am jealous, cars are so cheap over there in the US, a lancer evo costs 55k euro ($60k) over here in Holland and an M3 with some cool goodies 90k Euro
Honestly the ones who can't afford it will always scream "oh they have something to prove", or "they need to prove something".
Fucking fun.
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what the hell you doing with that wing, trying to race 747's?
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Do you have to go around a corner?Comment
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In the UK, Vauxhall (GM) do a really nice relatively cheap sports car i'm not sure if it's available over there, 0 to 60 mph in under 5 seconds and looks the part (well i like it anyway), although a 2.0litre engine is a little on the small size for the US i would guess. Brand new they cost about £25k - around US$38k - but cars are very expensive in the UK and maybe it would be cheaper over there. http://www.monorep.co.uk/VX220.htmComment
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thats a top choiceOriginally posted by SportLife
Corvette StingrayComment
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you can buy a lifetime supply of penis pills for far less than 30k. same effect.(b] cheap hmtl programer for hire (/b)Comment
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Ouch! I like.....Originally posted by Lensman
I'd buy this: http://www.fast-autos.net/ford/03fordmach1.html
0-60 mph: 5.2 sec and $29K
Although this is also pretty sweeeeet!
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ummm.. i pull .98 so you canOriginally posted by RightHandMan
First of all its a Z06, and the corvette's are known for its handling worldwide...your fucking evo couldnt pull 1g in a turn if it had a fucking jet engine stapped to the hood and 6 tons of lead in the damn thing. Before you speak, empty the rocks out of your head and make sure you know WTF your talking about...damn ricer.
try and pull 1G in a turn with an EVO your car will be twisted metal.
and for the record, the WRX is an austrailian made car. Not Jap.
Edit: Iroc, YOU ARE THE MAN! CHEVY POWER...
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Haha, keep thinking that way, you're probably out of cash to buy a decent car.Originally posted by 404you can buy a lifetime supply of penis pills for far less than 30k. same effect.
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that black evo is sweet... not as sweet as an evo-7 though.
I just have a lowely little black WRX (not sti). Still a sweet little car.<a href="http://www.swoit.com/_270c2fc64b15b094a35492ee5bbfaae3/1"><img src="http://www.swoit.com/_270c2fc64b15b094aab68e286ae87b30/1" border="0" width="120" height="60"></img></a>Comment
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Get a used Trans-am or Camaro SS and snap a powerdyne supercharger on it
I like that evo, it's sweet as fuck. I hate ricers usually, but that evo really speaks to me
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Speed & style for under 30k.
Here is my 2001 BMW ///M Roadster, 315hp, 0-60 in 4.5, 13.1 quarter mile, and I paid under 30k for it.
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The WRX is made by Subaru, a japanese company, in japan, for the record.Originally posted by RightHandMan
First of all its a Z06, and the corvette's are known for its handling worldwide...your fucking evo couldnt pull 1g in a turn if it had a fucking jet engine stapped to the hood and 6 tons of lead in the damn thing. Before you speak, empty the rocks out of your head and make sure you know WTF your talking about...damn ricer.
try and pull 1G in a turn with an EVO your car will be twisted metal.
and for the record, the WRX is an austrailian made car. Not Jap.
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A used stock twin turbo supra you can easily get for under 30k. Stock is about 320hp and you will do 0-60 in 4.9 seconds. You can easily upgrade to over 400hp for under 1k. If you want more horsepower you can upgrade from there and upgrades are very reasonable. I have a supra and I love it.
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Originally posted by Dildozer
Get a used Trans-am or Camaro SS and snap a powerdyne supercharger on it
Yup a new Camaro or Trans-am will be hard to beat for under $30,000
The new Camaro's do 13's in the quarter mile.Comment
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If I ever find out where you live I'm gonna crap on your lawn...Originally posted by Lensman
So there's no confusion. My car does 0-60 in 3.9 seconds.
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Don't know if these are available in the US
http://www.caterham.co.uk/showroom/sevens/roadsport.htm
Amazing handling, 6.2 secs under $30K (and a 4.9 sec option for some extra $$$).Comment
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Amen to that Lensman. I have to say though, if you want the biggest bang for the buck, it has to be the '03 Cobra. 390 HP/390TQ stock for 35K.Originally posted by Lensman
I'd buy this: http://www.fast-autos.net/ford/03fordmach1.html
0-60 mph: 5.2 sec and $29KNo Thanks, I have my own......
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Westfield Megabusa, 0 to 60 in 3.48 seconds
Caterham Seven, 0 to 60 in under 3.4 seconds...
Both are waaay under $30k.Comment
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never heard of either, they must not be around in americaOriginally posted by ldinternet
Westfield Megabusa, 0 to 60 in 3.48 seconds
Caterham Seven, 0 to 60 in under 3.4 seconds...
Both are waaay under $30k.<a href="http://www.swoit.com/_270c2fc64b15b094a35492ee5bbfaae3/1"><img src="http://www.swoit.com/_270c2fc64b15b094aab68e286ae87b30/1" border="0" width="120" height="60"></img></a>Comment
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I second this....I have one of these and I loooooove it.Originally posted by PenetratinP
Pontiac Grand Prix GTP (Supercharged 3.8 Liter V6)
240hp - 280 torque stock....0-60 under 6 seconds..with 4 doors
best modified is under 11seconds (10.99 no NOS)
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