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  • Mr.Fiction
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    • Feb 2002
    • 9484

    #151
    1-5-0

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    • scooby doo as scooby does
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2002
      • 314

      #152
      Originally posted by bringer

      "If the US network is found to have breached the strict "due impartiality" rules laid down by the commission, it could be forced off Sky's network in the UK." - http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcas...951169,00.html

      Show me when this happened. Or if it happened. Can you?

      They think they are bias because Fox's reporting contradicts their own so "them damn americans" must be bias. Its called "accountability". Most of these people are question dodgers who wont answer for their statements to anyone. Who's going to stop them?

      BBC biased. Fox delivering the truth. I'm sorry, I just curled up laughing.
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      • The Truth Hurts
        Zph7YXfjMhg
        • Nov 2002
        • 15782

        #153
        Originally posted by Webby
        The Truth Hurts:



        Well that was an indepth response!

        Not only is the US Admin trail of disaster listed on some of these links, but also all over the world press, - and all you can make a statement about is some book by Hillary Clinton???

        Sheesh.. talk about blinkered!!
        So I guess your blind AND dumb?

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        • Webby
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Oct 2002
          • 14956

          #154
          The Truth Hurts:

          So I guess your blind AND dumb?
          Is this another meaningful in depth statement by a product of the US education system or just one from a brainwashed fucking idiot??
          XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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          • 12clicks
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jan 2001
            • 19814

            #155
            Originally posted by directfiesta



            So these are ALL your idiotic drunk posts.

            Where are the facts??? where are the links ? It is only as collection of brainless farts stinking up this board...

            At least theKing has something to say.


            So WHERE are the facts you claim I cannot see??? With the WMD ????

            LOL you really are the idiot of the idiots....

            oh, come on little boy.

            Fact:
            the British government has stated flately that their evidence concerning uranium is based on more than one source and they stand by it as true.

            (oh, and as I sit typing this, I'm watching BBC and they just reported EXACTLY what I just said. the british government says the uranium issue is 100% true
            -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
            I love it when directfiestas sit in their one room apartments screaming how smart they are on chatboards.
            did you feel important finding all of my posts and leaving the ones with facts out?

            here's a clue joker, if you're a failure in life, you're not very smart (even in quebec)
            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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            • ThunderBalls
              So Fucking Banned
              • Oct 2002
              • 2926

              #156
              Originally posted by 12clicks
              looks like thunderballs took off running once he was forced to explain himself.

              My life consists of a little more than sitting on this board, cleaning my guns, watching Fox news and slapping my slaves with the bible.

              It would be a waste of time to point you to the truth because of your ignorance and quite frankly if you ever had a moment of clarity I suspect you would experience a mental meltdown.

              Now go back to drinking your Milwaukees Best and bitching about how the pot smoking liberals are taking over your trailer park.

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              • The Truth Hurts
                Zph7YXfjMhg
                • Nov 2002
                • 15782

                #157
                Originally posted by Webby
                The Truth Hurts:



                Is this another meaningful in depth statement by a product of the US education system or just one from a brainwashed fucking idiot??
                Hey, at least I didn't call you "blinkered"... whatever the fuck that means ; )

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                • 12clicks
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 19814

                  #158
                  Originally posted by ThunderBalls

                  It would be a waste of time to point you to the truth because of your ignorance and quite frankly if you ever had a moment of clarity I suspect you would experience a mental meltdown.
                  Translation: my head is still empty.

                  Originally posted by ThunderBalls

                  Now go back to drinking your Milwaukees Best and bitching about how the pot smoking liberals are taking over your trailer park.
                  dude, don't project your lifestyle on me.
                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                  • directfiesta
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                    • Oct 2002
                    • 30190

                    #159
                    Originally posted by 12clicks


                    oh, come on little boy.

                    Fact:
                    the British government has stated flately that their evidence concerning uranium is based on more than one source and they stand by it as true.

                    (oh, and as I sit typing this, I'm watching BBC and they just reported EXACTLY what I just said. the british government says the uranium issue is 100% true
                    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                    I love it when directfiestas sit in their one room apartments screaming how smart they are on chatboards.
                    did you feel important finding all of my posts and leaving the ones with facts out?

                    here's a clue joker, if you're a failure in life, you're not very smart (even in quebec)
                    Took a while... My ONE room is huge...

                    BTW, it is there ( 15th posts). You are probably too drunk to see it.

                    The Swedish gov heard that the French gov knows that the Italian gov has knoweledge that Mars is populated with republicans...

                    That is also a " FACT" according to your thinking...

                    Go pass out between the wall and the toilet bowl and throw up in your 12clicks mansion ... infested with bugs as your mind.

                    You bring emptyness, like a donut hole.

                    I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                    But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                    • 12clicks
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 19814

                      #160
                      well, you silly liberals keep jerking yourselves off over how much you know, it will make it that much sweeter listening to you whine during Bush's second term.

                      Besides, I promised to re-organize my wine cellar before tomorrow.

                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                      • directfiesta
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 30190

                        #161
                        Originally posted by 12clicks

                        Besides, I promised to re-organize my wine cellar before tomorrow.

                        You don't have wine, but you do live in a cellar... and your brain is also kept in the dark...
                        I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                        But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                        • 12clicks
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 19814

                          #162
                          Originally posted by directfiesta


                          Go pass out between the wall and the toilet bowl and throw up in your 12clicks mansion ... infested with bugs as your mind.

                          ahahahaha. I guess I hit a soft spot huh punk?
                          see you in the morning (school's out so you can play all day, right)
                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                          • Webby
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 14956

                            #163
                            12clicks:

                            Fact:
                            the British government has stated flately that their evidence concerning uranium is based on more than one source and they stand by it as true.

                            (oh, and as I sit typing this, I'm watching BBC and they just reported EXACTLY what I just said. the british government says the uranium issue is 100% true
                            I'll ignore the rest of your quote since it is irrelevant.

                            The British govt lied repeatedly in tune with the US Admin. What the UK govt says on the issue of Iraq is as reliable as Bush claiming he is a "compassionate conservative".

                            Ask the people who know (IAEA) more about uranium than the UK or US and they also, would like to know what "further evidence" exists that there is suitable quality uranium in Niger for the production of weapons. They are still waiting for any "evidence" from either the UK or US goverments. And time rolls on.....

                            The day you can trust either the US or UK government for a truthful answer and *ANY* evidence is the day I'll rise from the grave.
                            XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                            • ThunderBalls
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 2926

                              #164
                              Originally posted by 12clicks

                              Translation: my head is still empty.

                              C'mon, even with your low IQ you can come up with something better than your typical pre-programmed cut and paste responses. You disappoint me.

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                              • scooby doo as scooby does
                                Confirmed User
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 314

                                #165
                                Originally posted by 12clicks

                                Fact:
                                the British government has stated flately that their evidence concerning uranium is based on more than one source and they stand by it as true.

                                (oh, and as I sit typing this, I'm watching BBC and they just reported EXACTLY what I just said. the british government says the uranium issue is 100% true

                                Yes, apparently our multi-million pound intelligence services managed to find two sources for this information.

                                One of them turned out to be absolutely fake, the second is some kind of invisible proof that nobody can talk about or even give the very slightest hint as to what it may be and no other intelligence service in the world apparently had access to it either.

                                My guess for the source is Saddams dog. That canine would make more sense than most of these posts.

                                'Dodgy' is not the word. Outright lie to save their political skins is nearer the mark.
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                                • Webby
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 14956

                                  #166
                                  The Truth Hurts:

                                  Hey, at least I didn't call you "blinkered"... whatever the fuck that means ; )
                                  For your elightenment... the word "blinkered" refers to the tackle used on horses to keep their eyes pointing straight ahead.

                                  IE.. Further, it means that they only have one view and lack the ability to see further than that view... get it now???
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                                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 30307

                                    #167
                                    "Mars is populated with republicans..."

                                    Thats not true! We moved em to the next closest inhabitable planet. Which would emmm...

                                    Damn.

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                                    • The Truth Hurts
                                      Zph7YXfjMhg
                                      • Nov 2002
                                      • 15782

                                      #168
                                      So I'm the one wearing blinders...

                                      You didn't think it the least bit ironic that a page listing Bush's lies, would be engouraging you to buy a Hilary Clinton book?

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                                      • volante
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Mar 2002
                                        • 2940

                                        #169
                                        Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
                                        So I'm the one wearing blinders...

                                        You didn't think it the least bit ironic that a page listing Bush's lies, would be engouraging you to buy a Hilary Clinton book?
                                        I'd call it targetted advertising... when was the last time you saw an advert for a tranny site on a teen site?

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                                        • theking
                                          Nice Kitty
                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 21053

                                          #170
                                          Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                          Bush was caught lying. That's a fact.

                                          If some people don't care if he's a liar, that's fine, but denying it at this point only hurts their credibility on all issues.

                                          What lie was he caught in that is fact?
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                                          • theking
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                                            • Sep 2002
                                            • 21053

                                            #171
                                            Originally posted by AlienQ
                                            "if your platform is built on making fun when a guy who speaks hundreds of thousands of words in public miss speaks,"

                                            Clinton shot a nut on this chick in the white house, Bush starts a war costing billions and lies to us all which is better for you?

                                            I'll take the guy shooting nuts on secretaries over a warmonger.

                                            American people were betrayed, its not just one sentence, it is the "Whole war effort" in itself that is the lie. Mis-stating one sentence has nothing to do with it. American were manipulated by a small handful of poeple that hi jacked our system.
                                            Did you count the hundreds of members of Congress that gave their approval in that "handful" of people?
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                                            • theking
                                              Nice Kitty
                                              • Sep 2002
                                              • 21053

                                              #172
                                              Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                              CIA got uranium mention cut in Oct.
                                              Why Bush cited it in Jan. is unclear

                                              July 13 ? CIA Director George J. Tenet successfully intervened with White House officials to have a reference to Iraq seeking uranium from Niger removed from a presidential speech last October, three months before a less specific reference to the same intelligence appeared in the State of the Union address, according to senior administration officials.

                                              The new disclosure suggests how eager the White House was in January to make Iraq?s nuclear program a part of its case against Saddam Hussein even in the face of earlier objections by its own CIA director. It also appears to raise questions about the administration?s explanation of how the faulty allegations were included in the State of the Union speech.

                                              http://www.msnbc.com/news/938198.asp?0cv=CB10
                                              Tenet said that he personally approved the speech.
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                                              • directfiesta
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 30190

                                                #173
                                                Originally posted by theking


                                                What lie was he caught in that is fact?
                                                A valid opponent just arrived...

                                                You are right in the textual side... He didn't lie... but he permitted the lie to continue by leaving this " unreliable to the least" statment in the most important speech, the State of the Union.

                                                And he had removed that same statment, in a October speech, at the request of Tenet.

                                                Go figure how it crawled back in to the SoU speech???
                                                I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                • Webby
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 14956

                                                  #174
                                                  "Mars is populated with republicans..."

                                                  And the dialogue and logic still goes like this:

                                                  "Black is white"

                                                  "Green is a demon cos we have reliable intelligence information that green is a threat"

                                                  "Blue is capable of splattering Anthrax all over us, therefore he is an enemy of the State - this is 100% reliable information."

                                                  "Purple was our enemy last week, but because their government said something we liked, we are paying them to say more good things"

                                                  "We don't like these intergalatic organizaitions, cos they are a threat to our superiority. We don't want to sign any of there treaties, - especially one's where it gives our citizens human rights and a court - this is all a trick to catch us out."
                                                  XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                  • theking
                                                    Nice Kitty
                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 21053

                                                    #175
                                                    Originally posted by PeerPatrick
                                                    If you guys could think for yourselves you might try to read something from Gore Vidal or Noam Chomsky, good shit.BTW>GFY
                                                    I have. They are full of BS.
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                                                    • theking
                                                      Nice Kitty
                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                      • 21053

                                                      #176
                                                      Originally posted by Corleone


                                                      bush is a fucking liar...

                                                      talking about never existed weapons and connections to terrorsts. amerixca is going down with this guy.
                                                      Whe did you become privy to the intel the President was provided by the various intel agencies, domestic and foriegn?
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                                                      • theking
                                                        Nice Kitty
                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                        • 21053

                                                        #177
                                                        Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                        Yeah only 20 ???
                                                        WTF each link I put above has about 10 each if not more!

                                                        Some one didnt work hard enough on this project, I am just trying to help
                                                        Funny...I read the links you posted and I did not read a single lie.
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                                                        • theking
                                                          Nice Kitty
                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                          • 21053

                                                          #178
                                                          Originally posted by directfiesta


                                                          A valid opponent just arrived...

                                                          You are right in the textual side... He didn't lie... but he permitted the lie to continue by leaving this " unreliable to the least" statment in the most important speech, the State of the Union.

                                                          And he had removed that same statment, in a October speech, at the request of Tenet.

                                                          Go figure how it crawled back in to the SoU speech???
                                                          The same exact satement was not left intact. Tenet said to modify it and it was modified and Tenet gave personal approval to the modification.
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                                                          • Webby
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 14956

                                                            #179
                                                            Tenet said that he personally approved the speech.
                                                            Now that is confusing!!

                                                            Tenet also said, about two days earlier, that he did not see the final draft of the speech.

                                                            So.. this means:

                                                            (a) he left the contraversial comment in

                                                            (b) he took it out

                                                            (c) he did not see, as he claims, the "final version".

                                                            In which case.. if he left it in, he may hold some repsonsibility. If he took it out, who inserted it again??

                                                            Taking that into the context of a trail of prior lies, I have no doubt there is more than enough latituide that this, once again, was a lie to up the "anti" at the time.

                                                            This also raises other questions... Can the Admin be trusted to get any facts correct?

                                                            If it is a lack on communication, I'd hate to see the day a missle is heading for the US and some debate going on as to whether it is true of a result of some deviant weather on a radar screen.

                                                            Sheesh.. sure is a lack of communication someplace ....
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                                                            • Webby
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 14956

                                                              #180
                                                              theking:

                                                              Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                              Yeah only 20 ???
                                                              WTF each link I put above has about 10 each if not more!

                                                              Some one didnt work hard enough on this project, I am just trying to help
                                                              --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                              Funny...I read the links you posted and I did not read a single lie.
                                                              As usual, there is no reply to that!

                                                              You clearly are at odds with almost the whole world press on this issue of US lies.

                                                              You think any governments trust anything that comes out of the US Admin... I think not!!
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                                                              • theking
                                                                Nice Kitty
                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                • 21053

                                                                #181
                                                                Originally posted by Webby


                                                                Now that is confusing!!

                                                                Tenet also said, about two days earlier, that he did not see the final draft of the speech.

                                                                So.. this means:

                                                                (a) he left the contraversial comment in

                                                                (b) he took it out

                                                                (c) he did not see, as he claims, the "final version".

                                                                In which case.. if he left it in, he may hold some repsonsibility. If he took it out, who inserted it again??

                                                                Taking that into the context of a trail of prior lies, I have no doubt there is more than enough latituide that this, once again, was a lie to up the "anti" at the time.

                                                                This also raises other questions... Can the Admin be trusted to get any facts correct?

                                                                If it is a lack on communication, I'd hate to see the day a missle is heading for the US and some debate going on as to whether it is true of a result of some deviant weather on a radar screen.

                                                                Sheesh.. sure is a lack of communication someplace ....
                                                                The original speech had greater detail about the controversial subject. The writers were told what to remove and they did so.
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                                                                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                  • 30307

                                                                  #182
                                                                  Since your having a hard time trying not to see all the bullshit Bush has thrown on the United States. Go get some water, then sit down calmly (Your gonna need it) and read the below links like everyone else.


                                                                  Lies I


                                                                  Lies II

                                                                  Lies III

                                                                  Lies IV

                                                                  Lies V

                                                                  Lies VI

                                                                  Your "Where are the facts" one liners stance is lame and way old.
                                                                  When you are done reading the above you may come back to the class room.

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                                                                  • theking
                                                                    Nice Kitty
                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                    • 21053

                                                                    #183
                                                                    Originally posted by Webby
                                                                    theking:



                                                                    As usual, there is no reply to that!

                                                                    You clearly are at odds with almost the whole world press on this issue of US lies.

                                                                    You think any governments trust anything that comes out of the US Admin... I think not!!
                                                                    Originally posted by theking


                                                                    As to the truth about the Administration lying...this will be be decided by the Congress.

                                                                    The House and Senate Intelligence Select Committees are reviewing the intel reports that the Administration relied upon prior to the invasion. The House and Senate Select Committees have seen the intel reports prior to the invasion but they are taking a detailed in depth look this time around and will hold some feet to the fire. The hearings are private at this point but the Senate Select Committee has announced that public hearings will be held beginning in September.

                                                                    Until they make their conclusions known...everything else is just speculation and BS.
                                                                    You may have missed this...or not.
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                                                                    • theking
                                                                      Nice Kitty
                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                      • 21053

                                                                      #184
                                                                      Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                      Since your having a hard time trying not to see all the bullshit Bush has thrown on the United States. Go get some water, then sit down calmly (Your gonna need it) and read the below links like everyone else.


                                                                      Lies I


                                                                      Lies II

                                                                      Lies III

                                                                      Lies IV

                                                                      Lies V

                                                                      Lies VI

                                                                      Your "Where are the facts" one liners stance is lame and way old.
                                                                      When you are done reading the above you may come back to the class room.
                                                                      I read the links...point out the lie/lies.
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                                                                      • Webby
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                        • 14956

                                                                        #185
                                                                        theking:

                                                                        The original speech had greater detail about the controversial subject. The writers were told what to remove and they did so.
                                                                        How do you know this?? Cos the Admin said so?? Cos CNN said so??

                                                                        The truth is nobody knows apart from the ususal conspirators.

                                                                        The only TRUE FACT is Bush made claims and he did not have any evidence to support them.

                                                                        But that is nothing unusal!!
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                                                                        • ThunderBalls
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                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 2926

                                                                          #186
                                                                          Originally posted by theking


                                                                          Tenet said that he personally approved the speech.

                                                                          Yes he did. But today it comes out that he intervened last October to have the uranium claim removed from a presidential speech. So it seems to me the Bush admin had to have known.

                                                                          http://www.msnbc.com/news/938198.asp?0cv=CB10

                                                                          July 13 ? CIA Director George J. Tenet successfully intervened with White House officials to have a reference to Iraq seeking uranium from Niger removed from a presidential speech last October, three months before a less specific reference to the same intelligence appeared in the State of the Union address, according to senior administration officials.

                                                                          TENET ARGUED personally to White House officials, including deputy national security adviser Stephen Hadley, that the allegation should not be used because it came from only a single source, according to one senior official. Another senior official with knowledge of the intelligence said the CIA had doubts about the accuracy of the documents underlying the allegation, which months later turned out to be forged.

                                                                          The new disclosure suggests how eager the White House was in January to make Iraq?s nuclear program a part of its case against Saddam Hussein even in the face of earlier objections by its own CIA director. It also appears to raise questions about the administration?s explanation of how the faulty allegations were included in the State of the Union speech.

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                                                                          • theking
                                                                            Nice Kitty
                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                            • 21053

                                                                            #187
                                                                            Originally posted by Webby
                                                                            theking:



                                                                            How do you know this?? Cos the Admin said so?? Cos CNN said so??

                                                                            The truth is nobody knows apart from the ususal conspirators.

                                                                            The only TRUE FACT is Bush made claims and he did not have any evidence to support them.

                                                                            But that is nothing unusal!!
                                                                            That is what Tenet has said.
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                                                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                              • 30307

                                                                              #188
                                                                              "I read the links...point out the lie/lies."

                                                                              GFY don't got the hardrive space for that shit.
                                                                              If ya read em Which I totally 100% doubt you would not sit here and look like well... You.

                                                                              I know how bout you point out whats so great about the Bush fucktard???

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                                                                              • Webby
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                • 14956

                                                                                #189
                                                                                theking:

                                                                                I read the links...point out the lie/lies.
                                                                                If you need glasses.. I'd highly recommend them!!

                                                                                Try reading *ANYTHING* (choose your media!) that relates to this and if you don't come up with a view that there is something seriously wrong here, I suggest you call the shrink for an appointment.
                                                                                XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                                • zzgundamnzz
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                                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                                  • 6102

                                                                                  #190
                                                                                  And the morale of the story is: So what if our government lied. Big deal... happens all the time.

                                                                                  We kicked the ass of a 3rd world country... who cares.

                                                                                  If your a US citizen and wasn't a soldier your probably better off than you were before the war(gas prices are now once again reasonable).

                                                                                  Economy is better because we now have a new source of oil and other resources. Maybe, that'll stimulate the economy enough for us to make more sales.

                                                                                  When it comes down to it were not here for world peace. Were here to make some damn sales.


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                                                                                  • theking
                                                                                    Nice Kitty
                                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                                    • 21053

                                                                                    #191
                                                                                    Originally posted by ThunderBalls



                                                                                    Yes he did. But today it comes out that he intervened last October to have the uranium claim removed from a presidential speech. So it seems to me the Bush admin had to have known.

                                                                                    http://www.msnbc.com/news/938198.asp?0cv=CB10

                                                                                    July 13 ? CIA Director George J. Tenet successfully intervened with White House officials to have a reference to Iraq seeking uranium from Niger removed from a presidential speech last October, three months before a less specific reference to the same intelligence appeared in the State of the Union address, according to senior administration officials.

                                                                                    TENET ARGUED personally to White House officials, including deputy national security adviser Stephen Hadley, that the allegation should not be used because it came from only a single source, according to one senior official. Another senior official with knowledge of the intelligence said the CIA had doubts about the accuracy of the documents underlying the allegation, which months later turned out to be forged.

                                                                                    The new disclosure suggests how eager the White House was in January to make Iraq?s nuclear program a part of its case against Saddam Hussein even in the face of earlier objections by its own CIA director. It also appears to raise questions about the administration?s explanation of how the faulty allegations were included in the State of the Union speech.
                                                                                    As I have stated the original speech had much greater detail and Tenet told them to remove certain aspects of it. The details of what actually happened will undoubtedly be brought out during the Senate Select Committees hearings in September. Until then it is just speculation.
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                                                                                    • theking
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                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                      • 21053

                                                                                      #192
                                                                                      Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                      "I read the links...point out the lie/lies."

                                                                                      GFY don't got the hardrive space for that shit.
                                                                                      If ya read em Which I totally 100% doubt you would not sit here and look like well... You.

                                                                                      I know how bout you point out whats so great about the Bush fucktard???
                                                                                      None here...or in the press are privy to what intel reports were provided to him by the various intel agencies...domestic and foriegn. If the Administration was provided with faulty intel...explain how that makes the Administration liars?

                                                                                      FYI...I do not like Bush as a President.
                                                                                      Last edited by theking; 07-13-2003, 05:24 PM.
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                                                                                      • theking
                                                                                        Nice Kitty
                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                        • 21053

                                                                                        #193
                                                                                        Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                        theking:



                                                                                        If you need glasses.. I'd highly recommend them!!

                                                                                        Try reading *ANYTHING* (choose your media!) that relates to this and if you don't come up with a view that there is something seriously wrong here, I suggest you call the shrink for an appointment.
                                                                                        I will not jump to conclusions untill the Congressional Investigations run their course and present their findings. Until the "facts" are presented...I do not conclude anything. I can speculate but I prefer not to.
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                                                                                        • Webby
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Oct 2002
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                                                                                          #194
                                                                                          theking:

                                                                                          That is what Tenet has said.
                                                                                          And you believe him?? Why?? He is the guy who may, or may not, have been responsible.

                                                                                          He certainly "wants" to take full responsibility as a matter of urgency!!

                                                                                          Frankly... I don't care if Bush is a busy guy - he is, or supposed to be the President and make a State of the Union address. Dumping speechmakers aside, how the hell can a President come out with statements which, even his alleged Vice President knew were false??

                                                                                          Basically, they lied with full knowledge of the facts and tried to tell US people and the world they were true.

                                                                                          This is not the first instance, but another in a long trail of propaganda.
                                                                                          XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                                          • theking
                                                                                            Nice Kitty
                                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                                            • 21053

                                                                                            #195
                                                                                            Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                            theking:



                                                                                            And you believe him?? Why?? He is the guy who may, or may not, have been responsible.

                                                                                            He certainly "wants" to take full responsibility as a matter of urgency!!

                                                                                            Frankly... I don't care if Bush is a busy guy - he is, or supposed to be the President and make a State of the Union address. Dumping speechmakers aside, how the hell can a President come out with statements which, even his alleged Vice President knew were false??

                                                                                            Basically, they lied with full knowledge of the facts and tried to tell US people and the world they were true.

                                                                                            This is not the first instance, but another in a long trail of propaganda.
                                                                                            Maybe...maybe not...the Congressional hearings will bring out "what the President knew and when did he know it?"
                                                                                            When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

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                                                                                            • Webby
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                                                                                              #196
                                                                                              theking:

                                                                                              Also.. this uranium shit has already been the subject of many press articles around the world for almost a year now.

                                                                                              It is well known to be a false claim.... along with many others.
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                                                                                              • Webby
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                • 14956

                                                                                                #197
                                                                                                theking:

                                                                                                Maybe...maybe not...the Congressional hearings will bring out "what the President knew and when did he know it?"
                                                                                                DUH? How is that going to happen????

                                                                                                When you run a secretive government, you are pretty safe from the "trivialities" of Congressional hearings.

                                                                                                I gotta go!!
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                                                                                                • theking
                                                                                                  Nice Kitty
                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                  • 21053

                                                                                                  #198
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                                  theking:

                                                                                                  Also.. this uranium shit has already been the subject of many press articles around the world for almost a year now.

                                                                                                  It is well known to be a false claim.... along with many others.
                                                                                                  A single document was proved to be forged. Rumsfeld has stated that there are bits and pieces of intel that support the subject...though they are not definitive...and Blair has stated the same.
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                                                                                                  • theking
                                                                                                    Nice Kitty
                                                                                                    • Sep 2002
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                                                                                                    #199
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                                    theking:



                                                                                                    DUH? How is that going to happen????

                                                                                                    When you run a secretive government, you are pretty safe from the "trivialities" of Congressional hearings.

                                                                                                    I gotta go!!
                                                                                                    Nixon thought he was safe...the Democrats on the Select Committees will go after this with fervor.
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                                                                                                    • theking
                                                                                                      Nice Kitty
                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
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                                                                                                      #200
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                                      theking:

                                                                                                      Also.. this uranium shit has already been the subject of many press articles around the world for almost a year now.

                                                                                                      It is well known to be a false claim.... along with many others.
                                                                                                      The press is not privy to the intel received by the various agencies...domestic and foriegn. They are privy to "un-named" sources"...who could be the night janitor at the CIA.
                                                                                                      Last edited by theking; 07-13-2003, 05:37 PM.
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