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  • DatingGold
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    • Feb 2003
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    #1

    Gay web sites if your not gay..

    Would you have a problem running a gay web site, if you are not gay?

    I mean you would have to see the content all day, or would it not bother you??

    just curious how others feel about it!
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  • Probono
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    • Oct 2002
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    #2
    Business is business.

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    • Jon2
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      • Aug 2001
      • 2875

      #3
      Doesn't matter your sexual preference on what kinda site you run. It may be a bit harder to word things but for the most part not bad...Same difference with a gay guy running a straight site...

      Jon

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      • vegas2003
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        • Feb 2003
        • 1714

        #4
        Originally posted by DatingGold
        Would you have a problem running a gay web site, if you are not gay?

        I mean you would have to see the content all day, or would it not bother you??

        just curious how others feel about it!
        it's just business
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        • jasonir
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          • Aug 2002
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          #5
          It wouldn't bother me. It would probably bother some homophobics. Business is business.
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          • Lonny
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            • Jun 2003
            • 3539

            #6
            it's just business. 600 gmpass sites and counting + a # of gay and straight sites with a number of AVS's . you are right it is kinda hard to word things out. if it's not your thing.
            business is business

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            • Jon2
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              • Aug 2001
              • 2875

              #7
              Originally posted by jasonir
              It wouldn't bother me. It would probably bother some homophobics. Business is business.
              One good thing about the adult industry your sexual preference is generally never questioned or made a big deal of...

              Jon

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              • Xplicit
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                • May 2003
                • 3558

                #8
                I couldn't do it.

                I'm not homophobic, but actually SEEING that shit is disgusting.

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                • Centurion
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                  • Dec 2002
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Xplicit
                  I couldn't do it.

                  I'm not homophobic, but actually SEEING that shit is disgusting.
                  I know what you mean, straight people should not do porn!
                  REPULSIVE!

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                  • PbG
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                    • May 2003
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                    #10
                    it's not the content you're supposed to be seeing . . . it's the profit. However given your disposition it's probably best you respect your limitations, however unprofroessional they may be . . . afterall would'nt want you to bust a braincell lol



                    Originally posted by Xplicit
                    I couldn't do it.

                    I'm not homophobic, but actually SEEING that shit is disgusting.

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                    • jasonir
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                      • Aug 2002
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by PbG
                      it's not the content you're supposed to be seeing . . . it's the profit. However given your disposition it's probably best you respect your limitations, however unprofroessional they may be . . . afterall would'nt want you to bust a braincell lol



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                      • kris242
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                        • Dec 2002
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Xplicit
                        I couldn't do it.

                        I'm not homophobic, but actually SEEING that shit is disgusting.
                        Atleast its not gay beastiality...

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                        • Spunky
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                          • Jun 2002
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                          #13
                          Homo

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                          • kris242
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                            • Dec 2002
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by spunky1
                            Homo
                            yeah this thread is GAY!

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                            • SilverTab
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                              • Nov 2001
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                              #15
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                              • Mr Pheer
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                                • Dec 2002
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                                #16
                                I look at it like this

                                I'm not gay, I dont like trannys, and i dont care to see interracial porn.

                                So I dont do gay sites, tranny sites, or interracial sites.

                                I have to like what I'm working with or its hard for me to make a page that would appeal to someone else that would like the content being offered.

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                                • Matt 26z
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                                  • Apr 2002
                                  • 18481

                                  #17
                                  A straight man could never run a gay site like a gay man could. End of story.

                                  It's pretty common to say if you've got an interest in a niche, then you'll do better than someone who doesn't. But, there's always those people who get lucky promoting Asian women or whatever who aren't even interested in them.

                                  You can't apply that to gay porn though because homosexuality is a totally seperate lifestyle straights could never even begin to grasp. It's not some niche under the straight umbrella which the basis of is similar to all female porn. We're talking something totally different, and something you'd have to live to get right.

                                  Gay sites run by straight men can be spotted a mile away almost every single time.

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                                  • Brent
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                                    • Sep 2002
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DatingGold
                                    Would you have a problem running a gay web site, if you are not gay?
                                    nope.

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                                    • XYCash
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                                      • Jun 2003
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Matt 26z

                                      Gay sites run by straight men can be spotted a mile away almost every single time.
                                      yeah..they generally have content thats 4 years old on it with no specific identifiable niche.

                                      ..there's even an ad on GFY that features content thats older than god

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                                      • Xplicit
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                                        • May 2003
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                                        #20
                                        it's not the content you're supposed to be seeing . . . it's the profit. However given your disposition it's probably best you respect your limitations, however unprofroessional they may be . . . afterall would'nt want you to bust a braincell lol
                                        Maybe unlike you - I make enough money working with content that doesn't make me want to vomit.

                                        Move along troll

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                                        • jigg
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                                          • Feb 2002
                                          • 2527

                                          #21
                                          I can almost always tell when a site was done by straight person.
                                          The wording and the images. A lot of straight people seem to have a problem putting images in the right niche.
                                          That's why 95% of gay pay sites out there are complete shit.
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                                          • Randy
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                                            • Feb 2002
                                            • 335

                                            #22
                                            I started my own gay paysite because ididnt like any of the sites outthere I saw. I am not saying what I like is what every gay man wants to see but it is what I and like minded want to see. So far I think its working really well.
                                            Thanks



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                                            • XYCash
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                                              • Jun 2003
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Xplicit


                                              Maybe unlike you - I make enough money working with content that doesn't make me want to vomit.

                                              Move along troll
                                              then why are you in a thread titled "gay web sites if your not gay"?
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                                              • jimmyf
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                                                • Feb 2001
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                                                #24
                                                Never bother me money is money. When I was doing galleries made good money with gay galleries.
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                                                • jimmyf
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by XYCash


                                                  then why are you in a thread titled "gay web sites if your not gay"?
                                                  I'm here and not gay. I don't see any need to post nasty things about gay people after all this is a porn webmasters board. Last time I check there are gay people in the porn Biz, hell I've got friends that are gay, I don't give a poop what they do. Could be that I lived in the Bay Area for over 20 years, A few gay people living there I would say. Just another person to me.
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                                                  • XYCash
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jimmyf
                                                    I'm here and not gay. I don't see any need to post nasty things about gay people after all this is a porn webmasters board. Last time I check there are gay people in the porn Biz, hell I've got friends that are gay, I don't give a poop what they do. Could be that I lived in the Bay Area for over 20 years, A few gay people living there I would say. Just another person to me.

                                                    thats not what i was saying...he said gay pics made him vomit...i applaude straight people with tolerance..but those who want to slam gay people can go jump in a lake
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                                                    • Randy
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                                                      #27
                                                      Personally I think its all about working together to make $$. I am not straight but I am not opposed to shooting straight content. God knows most of my friends are straight and I amsure they would have no problem in helping me to get it right!

                                                      I do however think that people are most successful when the concentrate on what they like and do best.

                                                      We have a lot of straight webmasters that have started sending us traffic and they do well and are very happy and we have alot of gay webmasters who do the exact same....

                                                      If your not comfortable doing it then dont...but if you are then give it a try, it might be very successful for you!
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                                                      • prostock
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                                                        • Jun 2002
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                                                        #28
                                                        Randy Personally I think its all about working together to make $$. I am not straight but I am not opposed to shooting straight content. God knows most of my friends are straight and I amsure they would have no problem in helping me to get it right!

                                                        I do however think that people are most successful when the concentrate on what they like and do best.

                                                        We have a lot of straight webmasters that have started sending us traffic and they do well and are very happy and we have alot of gay webmasters who do the exact same....

                                                        If your not comfortable doing it then dont...but if you are then give it a try, it might be very successful for you!




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                                                        great way to put it Randy

                                                        and as randy is a content maker so am i , and i am sure he can tell you as i can i have more people buying gay content that are not gay then i have people buying gay content that are gay !

                                                        gay sites do very well , we are to be aduld webmasters and that shit isnt to be bother us .


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                                                        • Centurion
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                                                          • Dec 2002
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Xplicit


                                                          Maybe unlike you - I make enough money working with content that doesn't make me want to vomit.

                                                          Move along troll

                                                          HEY HEY HEY!!

                                                          Trolls is a VERY good niche for gay content!!

                                                          So back off!

                                                          ("Trolls is"?)

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                                                          • archer
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                                                            • Jul 2002
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                                                            #30
                                                            people need to get a life..jeez

                                                            this is a business.

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                                                            • berg.the.red
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                                                              #31
                                                              i wouldn't say "problem" running it. more of a "problem" looking at the content and going: "if this what people are looking for ?! hell if i know ...".
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                                                              • Holly
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                                                                • Jun 2003
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                                                                #32
                                                                Yeah man, that would suck! Having to look at hundreds and thousands of images of someone who's the same sex as you, doing all sorts of nasty things, day after day. Who wants to look at that shit all the time when you're not even gay???

                                                                Oh, wait. I forgot. Female webmasters do it all the time. And nobody ever starts a thread about it or wonders if it grosses us out. But then again, we're a whole lot prettier to look at when we're nekkid and piled up with someone who's the same sex.

                                                                For what it's worth, I think gay (male) sites rock. I think it's much easier to get lots of gay traffic. Maybe cause there's not as many choices and it's not so dispersed? I don't know, but it converts really well. And btw Randy- your site kicks ass.

                                                                I just got divorced last year and I always tell everyone if I ever decide to get married again, I'm marring a gay guy cause they're more fun and they treat you better. As a matter of fact, the one I'll probably marry has already posted in this thread. And he's so cute.
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                                                                • Centurion
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                                                                  • Dec 2002
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Holly
                                                                  As a matter of fact, the one I'll probably marry has already posted in this thread. And he's so cute.
                                                                  That was so sweet of you to say that..but I thought that was going to be OUR little secret?!?

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                                                                  • vapewiz
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                                                                    • Nov 2002
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Doesn't bother me one bit i still looked at cock, balls, and dudes asses when i ran straight sites... now the only problem is the lack of tits and pussy...


                                                                    I really find is funny how straight guys especially in this biz are scared of gay porn... but at the same time i am more then happy they do means more $$$ for me.

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                                                                    • TheJimmy
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                                                                      • Jan 2001
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by XYCash


                                                                      then why are you in a thread titled "gay web sites if your not gay"?

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                                                                      • vapewiz
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                                                        A straight man could never run a gay site like a gay man could. End of story.

                                                                        It's pretty common to say if you've got an interest in a niche, then you'll do better than someone who doesn't. But, there's always those people who get lucky promoting Asian women or whatever who aren't even interested in them.

                                                                        You can't apply that to gay porn though because homosexuality is a totally seperate lifestyle straights could never even begin to grasp. It's not some niche under the straight umbrella which the basis of is similar to all female porn. We're talking something totally different, and something you'd have to live to get right.

                                                                        Gay sites run by straight men can be spotted a mile away almost every single time.
                                                                        Not true... gay porn is the same as straight only gay people want to see the same stuff just with guys in place of a chick for the most part.... sure there are huge differences but for the most part the same... a straight guy wants to see a girls face covered in cum and getting her pussy blow apart.... a gay guy wants to see a dude with cum on his face and getting nailed in the ass....

                                                                        Maybe I'm wrong but I know number of straight guys that are very successful in the gay niche (more successful then gay guy i know in the gay niche) and as long as you don't try and say some bullshit like "gay owned and operated" when your not you can be just as successful in the gay niche. Being gay or not has nothing to do with making $$$ in this niche just like any other.... learn how to promote it and you will succeed you don't need to be into the niche you promote you just need to learn how to promote it to the people that are after it....

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                                                                        • Jon2
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                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                          • 2875

                                                                          #37
                                                                          I have to say if your gay you will have a easier time running a gay site...Agreeing with someone earlier who posted about it...Because if your gay then your gonna know what gay surfers are looking for...Same applies with straight guys and straight content...You can run either type site being either gay or straight its just you will have a easier time coming up with wording and picking out content :-)

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                                                                          • Randy
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Hey Holly!
                                                                            Thanks for the kind words! Thats very cool of you to say. You know I have always wondered if girls in the industry get tired of looking at women all day if they are straight. And yes, no one to my knowledge has ever asked if girls get sick of it but its a big deal if guys have too. Very funny.
                                                                            Very good points!
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                                                                            • Holly
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                                                                              • Jun 2003
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Centurion
                                                                              That was so sweet of you to say that..but I thought that was going to be OUR little secret?!?
                                                                              Sorry, but my cutie is about 12 posts under you up there. But it shouldn't be a problem though- I could marry you, too. I always say if you're gonna do something, do it right. If I'm gonna go alternative, I might as well marry two gay guys and add "bigamist" to my portfolio, while I'm at it. As long as you can meet the terms, I'm sure he wouldn't mind. These are the things I need from a husband: 1-drag the big trashcan to the curb on Tuesdays and bring it back after the trash has been picked up (and yes, the can does have wheels ); 2-help bring in all bags, packages, groceries, etc., from the car whenever I come home; 3-help me move/drag around big heavy stuff or hand me stuff when I'm up on a ladder; and 4-go with me to any event/party that, God forbid, I should show up alone at, lest I want every friend/relative I have to dredge up every reject, can't-even-find-them-a-blind-date idiot that they know, to try and force on me.

                                                                              That's pretty much it. Other than that, you can do whatever you want. I think it's an excellent deal. And I'm a really good cook, so you'd never go hungry. You can think about it and get back to me. I'm not in any hurry.
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                                                                              • Holly
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Hey, Randy Yes, I do get tired of looking at naked women, but it's not cause they're women. I get tired of looking at naked straight men, naked gay men, naked lesbians, naked couples, etc, etc. The visual content is my least favorite part of this business. I've thought seriously about trying to do only text/writing stuff, but it doesn't seem like there'd be enough work to live off of. I think it's more a female perspective thing. I know some women like to look at porn, but I think if I never saw another picture of a naked man or woman for the rest of my life, I'd never even notice. It just doesn't do anything for me. I'd much, much rather have someone write something to me. That works 100x better. The one guy who really, uhhh...cranked my tractor used to write me these great letters and mail them to me. He didn't live that far away, but he'd sit down and write them out on nice, manila stationary and send them to me. God, I loved that. He also would email me stuff that was amazing. He wasn't even all that nice looking and my friends all thought I was insane, but I was crazy about him. And no, it wasn't my ex-husband. I was lucky to get a Hallmark card that read, "Love, Your Husband" from him. Guess I should have known ;o)

                                                                                Occasionally you'll hear a male webmaster say he's tired of looking at the content, but judging from the way they post it on boards and react whenever they see it, I doubt that holds true for most of them. Just watch the next time a female puts up a "here's some pictures of me" thread, or somebody shoots a new model. You'd think they had never seen a naked female in their whole lives, instead of looking at it all day, every day. I guess it's another one of those Mars/Venus things. ;-]]
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                                                                                • KRL
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by DatingGold
                                                                                  Would you have a problem running a gay web site, if you are not gay?

                                                                                  I mean you would have to see the content all day, or would it not bother you??

                                                                                  just curious how others feel about it!
                                                                                  No problem at all. To each his own is how I look at it. After 20 years of a variety of porn businesses, it all looks the same and nothing phases me anymore. Dicks, pussies, what's the difference. LOL
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                                                                                  • tazz
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by jimmyf
                                                                                    Never bother me money is money. When I was doing galleries made good money with gay galleries.
                                                                                    same here. there is really some good money to be made in the gay niche if you take the time to learn it.

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                                                                                    • ry0t
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Feb 2003
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Probono
                                                                                      Business is business.
                                                                                      what this kid said

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                                                                                      • IntenseCash
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by DatingGold
                                                                                        Would you have a problem running a gay web site, if you are not gay?

                                                                                        I mean you would have to see the content all day, or would it not bother you??

                                                                                        just curious how others feel about it!

                                                                                        I am straight and run a couple gay sites, I am just secure enough to handle it. I guess

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                                                                                        • Centurion
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Holly

                                                                                          As long as you can meet the terms, I'm sure he wouldn't mind. These are the things I need from a husband: 1-drag the big trashcan to the curb on Tuesdays and bring it back after the trash has been picked up (and yes, the can does have wheels ); 2-help bring in all bags, packages, groceries, etc., from the car whenever I come home; 3-help me move/drag around big heavy stuff or hand me stuff when I'm up on a ladder; and 4-go with me to any event/party that, God forbid, I should show up alone at, lest I want every friend/relative I have to dredge up every reject, can't-even-find-them-a-blind-date idiot that they know, to try and force on me.

                                                                                          KEWL! You're into s&m and bondage!
                                                                                          That means I can wear my leather!

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                                                                                          • Tipsy
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by qualitythumbs
                                                                                            I have to say if your gay you will have a easier time running a gay site...Agreeing with someone earlier who posted about it...Because if your gay then your gonna know what gay surfers are looking for...Same applies with straight guys and straight content...You can run either type site being either gay or straight its just you will have a easier time coming up with wording and picking out content :-)

                                                                                            Jon
                                                                                            I'd disagree and disagree with the posts stating that str8 people stand out. What stands out are idiots jumping into gay for the money that still have hangups about gay porn and won't make any effort to learn about the market. But then too many newbies believe the BS about it being easier to make money in gay but then that's a different topic.

                                                                                            You don't need to be gay to 'know what gay surfers are looking for'. Apart from anything else that statement suggests that all gay surfers have the same tastes which is a very long way from the truth. However you do have to be able to look at a gay picture and know if it's 'sexy' and/or will work for the niche you are targetting. Rather than being gay you just need to be very comfortable with your own sexuality.

                                                                                            Oddly enough I know a gay WM that is terrible at marketing gay porn. He has a thing about a guy needing to look a certain way or he wont sell which as with str8 is pure BS - we all have different tastes. The problem being the look he likes doesn't seem to be that popular when it comes to the Internet and he really can't understand that other stuff will sell. I know of a very successful site that was themed around an 'ugly mature guy' and sold that way. It made more money than any number of twink or hot amateur sites. It never fails to amaze me how many sponsors thing that gay = twinks and can't see outside of that particular box.

                                                                                            You need to do your research. It helps to frequent gay boards etc to keep up to date on stuff. You need to being able to understand your market from a sales point of view. You need to know what images will work for the niche your are targetting. You do not need to be gay to do any of that, just have a little intelligenece and again be very comfortable with your own sexuality.

                                                                                            Again the ones that 'stand out as being made by a str8 guy' would usually be far better described as 'stand out as being made by someone who makes no effort to understand the market and has homophobic tendancies, but is doing gay porn to try and make a quick buck'. Mind you - there are some great fuckups when they do get it wrong. Came across a great site featuring 'hairy, mature twinks' a while back
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                                                                                            • LadyMischief
                                                                                              Orgasms N Such!
                                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                                              • 18135

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Tipsy


                                                                                              I'd disagree and disagree with the posts stating that str8 people stand out. What stands out are idiots jumping into gay for the money that still have hangups about gay porn and won't make any effort to learn about the market. But then too many newbies believe the BS about it being easier to make money in gay but then that's a different topic.

                                                                                              You don't need to be gay to 'know what gay surfers are looking for'. Apart from anything else that statement suggests that all gay surfers have the same tastes which is a very long way from the truth. However you do have to be able to look at a gay picture and know if it's 'sexy' and/or will work for the niche you are targetting. Rather than being gay you just need to be very comfortable with your own sexuality.

                                                                                              Oddly enough I know a gay WM that is terrible at marketing gay porn. He has a thing about a guy needing to look a certain way or he wont sell which as with str8 is pure BS - we all have different tastes. The problem being the look he likes doesn't seem to be that popular when it comes to the Internet and he really can't understand that other stuff will sell. I know of a very successful site that was themed around an 'ugly mature guy' and sold that way. It made more money than any number of twink or hot amateur sites. It never fails to amaze me how many sponsors thing that gay = twinks and can't see outside of that particular box.

                                                                                              You need to do your research. It helps to frequent gay boards etc to keep up to date on stuff. You need to being able to understand your market from a sales point of view. You need to know what images will work for the niche your are targetting. You do not need to be gay to do any of that, just have a little intelligenece and again be very comfortable with your own sexuality.

                                                                                              Again the ones that 'stand out as being made by a str8 guy' would usually be far better described as 'stand out as being made by someone who makes no effort to understand the market and has homophobic tendancies, but is doing gay porn to try and make a quick buck'. Mind you - there are some great fuckups when they do get it wrong. Came across a great site featuring 'hairy, mature twinks' a while back
                                                                                              The same can be said about a lot of niches.. BBW has the same idiots who jump in for the cash, but through their thin veneer of tolerance you can tell they are repulsed by the content they're using.. Then they wonder why they don't sell anything.

                                                                                              Gay porn is not only the realm of gay people, altough it's easier to market what you know, so a lot of people who are involved in the niche ARE gay..but what you say is 100% true... YOu can't come into ANY niche without doing some preliminary research and learning a thing or two about what appeals to the person surfing for that particular niche. You won't sell cars with a picture of a bicycle, you can't sell oranges and describe apples. You have to be willing to learn, not just assume no matter what you do or say it will sell..


                                                                                              And as for those who came into this thread specifically to bash gay people etc... Get your fucking heads out of your asses.. Is you own sexuality THAT threatened that you need to make yourselves look big? Grow up.

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                                                                                              • Reak
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                • 17920

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by DatingGold
                                                                                                Would you have a problem running a gay web site, if you are not gay?

                                                                                                Yes i would have a problem, See that content all day it should me make sick !

                                                                                                Ill stick to Girls

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                                                                                                • Tipsy
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                  • 6989

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by LadyMischief

                                                                                                  The same can be said about a lot of niches.. BBW has the same idiots who jump in for the cash, but through their thin veneer of tolerance you can tell they are repulsed by the content they're using.. Then they wonder why they don't sell anything.
                                                                                                  Very much so. Selling a niche you are into is always easier for obvious reasons. Amazing though how many people still consider gay a 'niche'. There was a nice little example posted above of mixed images being chucked together for the gay 'niche'.

                                                                                                  Again it amazes me why so many sponsors chuck up multiple generic gay and twink sites and can't see the market beyond that. Even more so because some of them are (or at least claim to be) gay themselves. A generic/mixed gay site is little easier to sell than a similar str8 one. Without a theme or specific niche ratios will usually always be far worse.
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                                                                                                  • Tipsy
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                    • 6989

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Reak


                                                                                                    Yes i would have a problem, See that content all day it should me make sick !

                                                                                                    Ill stick to Girls
                                                                                                    Coming from someone who isn't even old enough to legally look at porn why does this not surprise me? Bugger off back to the playground and play nicely with the rest of the little kids.
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