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  • TheProfessor
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2002
    • 103

    #51
    TheFly - yep... i'm not happy with our stats'
    user interface - complete redesign this week.
    Let me see about lowering the minimum
    conversion on clicks so that you can stay
    per click even if you send poor traffic. I
    assume you also know that it takes a few
    days to weeks before some people pay
    for their membership so a good test is
    about 1 month of traffic. Do you REALLY
    need weekly payouts? As we have to
    personally review each account we pay, it
    takes about a week to review the thousands
    of webmasters we send checks to. Personals
    is not like paysites where guys just look and
    pay... we have to review their profile, give
    them service, etc.

    Good luck - let me know if you have more ideas!
    CEO, Friend Finder
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    • PrivateEye
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2003
      • 1784

      #52
      Bump...bump...bump

      Please Professor...give me the proof I need to make sure you are real

      Surely you have time for a affilate that makes you over $250,000 a year...right?

      Deeprub
      Arkansas Escort Ads

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      • SleazyDream
        I'm here for SPORT
        • Jul 2001
        • 41470

        #53
        Originally posted by LegendaryLars
        The Professor is actually the owner and CEO of friendfinder Inc I will vouch for that ! And that is him posting
        nice to see him FINALLY postign to GFY.

        this damn place gets EVERYONE sooner or later
        This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

        Now read without the word dog.

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        • SleazyDream
          I'm here for SPORT
          • Jul 2001
          • 41470

          #54
          Originally posted by photohudson
          Friendfiners are involved, as defendant, in a major spam lawsuit in California. Its gone up to appeals and I think back down to the trial court. California has a law that says you can sue in CA if CA equipment is used in the transmission of spam. Since a user in Calif. likely is hooking up to a router at his ISP which is in Calif. (whether that's a DSL, Cable modem, or dialup) you've got IP-level usage of equipment in Calif. to pick up your mail .
          Picking up mail from a popserver in Calif. makes it stronger case.

          Anyway its a big deal and I am sad to see anyone who values their reputation involved in spam.
          i value my reputation. I'll stand behind friend finder FOREVER. I give them my STRONGEST ENDORSEMENT of ANY affiliate program in this industry. MY ABSOLUTE STRONGEST ENDORSEMENT. NoOne else - no matter how much I love and respect them , gets a STRONGER endorsement from me than Friend Finder.

          photohudson, you are a complete fucking fool. Friend finder is as clean as it comes for online businesses that interact with the adult sector.

          do they send out emails - yes - but ONLY if you are a member of their program and have AGREED to receive those emails. And I've NEVER heard of freind finder EVER letting ANYONE use their database for spam - for any reason. Guys in the know in this biz have an ongoing joke about friend finder - they are like a black hole - anything that goes into there - STAYS there FOREVER.
          It's a complement.

          consider this - there is better than a 50% chance than ANYONE who lives in california with an income over $50,000 will get sued within a couple year period.

          name ONE cororation with 100+ employess in california that has operated for 10 years in california and HASN"t been sued for SOMETHING. it's a scarry place to do business. EVERYONE sues EVERYONE there for anyting - valid or not. it's a way of life there.
          Last edited by SleazyDream; 07-12-2003, 12:45 PM.
          This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

          Now read without the word dog.

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          • TheFLY
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jan 2001
            • 11856

            #55
            Originally posted by TheProfessor
            TheFly - yep... i'm not happy with our stats'
            user interface - complete redesign this week.
            Let me see about lowering the minimum
            conversion on clicks so that you can stay
            per click even if you send poor traffic. I
            assume you also know that it takes a few
            days to weeks before some people pay
            for their membership so a good test is
            about 1 month of traffic. Do you REALLY
            need weekly payouts? As we have to
            personally review each account we pay, it
            takes about a week to review the thousands
            of webmasters we send checks to. Personals
            is not like paysites where guys just look and
            pay... we have to review their profile, give
            them service, etc.

            Good luck - let me know if you have more ideas!
            Yes, I realize the issues you have to deal with -- fraud -- hackers... but really the weekly or twice monthly payouts make the difference. Lots of guys use this money to pay rent -- so let's say Joe Webmaster gets paid $500 twice a month -- and he's counting on that money to pay the bills -- now that sponsor starts shaving or stops updating the tour or whatever -- sponsors go to crap all the time -- now he's got to find another sponsor that pays twice a month, or weekly... if he goes to a monthly sponsor like some IBill crap or DeluxePass, now he's got maybe 30-45 days with no big check... You might say -- well it's best to use lots of sponsors to even it all out -- but really most guys that do trading/bookmark sites (like movieposts) -- they only have time to maintain one site -- most webmasters I know still only work one site at a time -- and usually there is a primary ad position -- the top of the page... and that is always the breadwinner... nobody is going to take a chance to make you the primary ad for a month waiting for these slow surfers if they depend on their sites for month-to-month income... but think about it -- most freesite guys wouldn't be busting balls updating thumbs and gallery descriptions unless they needed the cash pretty badly because it's boring ass work... hehe but I suppose that's not really your problem -- maybe from your standpoint it doesn't matter -- the result is lots of guys sprinkle your links through the pages and you end up getting exposure to all the surfers anyway... I really just don't see how bookmark/trading based freesites can make you the primary sponsor (like amateur pages, nastydollars, etc. commonly are)... unless the advertiser takes a SleazyDream type of approach... If that really is the best advertising approach to send the most traffic, why not work on some content that we could integrate into our sites -- I think an IFriends ad model would work better for you -- instaead of "I'm a [Man] looking for a [Woman]" deal which is so old... and these dating script sources are now freeware... Maybe do some geotargeting to find the hottest female in the surfer's area and use THAT as an ad with an img src=blahblah.cgi... that would be very fucking cool... Actually I have way better ideas but I'm saving them for a rainy day
            Last edited by TheFLY; 07-12-2003, 01:07 PM.

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            • SleazyDream
              I'm here for SPORT
              • Jul 2001
              • 41470

              #56
              i think the monthy payments friend finder uses INSULATES them from a lot of scammers. I'm not sayign they don't get their fair share of them, I am saying that they would get a LOT more scammers if they paid weekly or bi-weekly
              This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

              Now read without the word dog.

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              • TheFLY
                So Fucking Banned
                • Jan 2001
                • 11856

                #57
                Originally posted by SleazyDream
                i think the monthy payments friend finder uses INSULATES them from a lot of scammers. I'm not sayign they don't get their fair share of them, I am saying that they would get a LOT more scammers if they paid weekly or bi-weekly
                Yep, but if you want to be #1 then you have to be competitive with other biz buying eyeball space... And that's a fixed piece of pie.

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                • SleazyDream
                  I'm here for SPORT
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 41470

                  #58
                  Originally posted by TheFLY


                  Yep, but if you want to be #1 then you have to be competitive with other biz buying eyeball space... And that's a fixed piece of pie.
                  did you smoke some bad crack this morning?
                  This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                  Now read without the word dog.

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                  • TheFLY
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 11856

                    #59
                    Originally posted by SleazyDream


                    did you smoke some bad crack this morning?
                    Nope -- I just didn't want to jump on the bandwagon and say "woweezowie AFF is the best"...

                    but SleazyDream I think you're a man of the people, and your recommendation is pure gold in my book.

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                    • dj pussy
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 1440

                      #60
                      shaving but paying

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                      • PrivateEye
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1784

                        #61
                        I still think it smells

                        Should be pretty easy for the CEO to check out stats...and shut me up!

                        Until then...it's bullshit...anybody ever play that game

                        Deeprub
                        Arkansas Escort Ads

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                        • Mr.Fiction
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 9484

                          #62
                          Originally posted by TheFLY


                          Yep, but if you want to be #1 then you have to be competitive with other biz buying eyeball space... And that's a fixed piece of pie.
                          Haven't they been #1 in the erotic dating market for a long time?
                          Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU | Free Speech Coalition | EFF | IMPA

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                          • Mr.Wong
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 122

                            #63
                            I would love to see an option where affiliates could eliminate the $Bonus altogether and take % rebillings for life.

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                            • SleazyDream
                              I'm here for SPORT
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 41470

                              #64
                              Originally posted by TheFLY


                              Nope -- I just didn't want to jump on the bandwagon and say "woweezowie AFF is the best"...

                              but SleazyDream I think you're a man of the people, and your recommendation is pure gold in my book.
                              when have you EVER known me to 'jump on the bandwagon"?

                              i ONLY endorse people i know and trust. AFF gets my HIGHEST endorsement.
                              I've used them for 4 + years.

                              aff has NEVER played any credit card games. they have a REAL product and are HONEST people. no trials - a full signup. Only REAL, honest companies can get away with that for YEARS.
                              They don't use 3rd party processing - they do all processing inhouse. NO games. the members you send them WON't GET the shit spammed outa them like soo many other 3rd party processors do to yoru clients.
                              Last edited by SleazyDream; 07-12-2003, 01:47 PM.
                              This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                              Now read without the word dog.

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                              • KRL
                                Entrepreneur
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 31429

                                #65
                                Originally posted by SleazyDream


                                consider this - there is better than a 50% chance than ANYONE who lives in california with an income over $50,000 will get sued within a couple year period.

                                name ONE cororation with 100+ employess in california that has operated for 10 years in california and HASN"t been sued for SOMETHING. it's a scarry place to do business. EVERYONE sues EVERYONE there for anyting - valid or not. it's a way of life there.


                                If you've never sued someone or haven't been sued yourself, you're not a player.

                                I forget the exact statistics, but the top 50 largest corporations on the Fortune 500 each get somewhere around 100 lawsuits every day served on them.

                                Bottom line, you can't run a big operation of any kind and not expect to get sued sooner or later, even if its a frivolious lawsuit with no merit.
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                                • PrivateEye
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 1784

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by SleazyDream


                                  when have you EVER known me to 'jump on the bandwagon"?

                                  i ONLY endorse people i know and trust. AFF gets my HIGHEST endorsement.
                                  I've used them for 4 + years.
                                  Did you ever get a wine and cheese basket? or anything for x-mas bonus...I heard they give them but I still anit got shit!

                                  Deeprub
                                  Arkansas Escort Ads

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                                  • SleazyDream
                                    I'm here for SPORT
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 41470

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Deeprub


                                    Did you ever get a wine and cheese basket? or anything for x-mas bonus...I heard they give them but I still anit got shit!

                                    Deeprub
                                    there's probally a cut off point for volume on who they send them to - or I'm just cutier than you. :P

                                    i actually sent several people at AFF decent x-mas gifts for a few years, (ask them - i did) and last year was the first year I got a nice present back....

                                    did you send them anyting for x-mas?
                                    Last edited by SleazyDream; 07-12-2003, 01:51 PM.
                                    This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                    Now read without the word dog.

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                                    • SleazyDream
                                      I'm here for SPORT
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 41470

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by KRL




                                      If you've never sued someone or haven't been sued yourself, you're not a player.

                                      I forget the exact statistics, but the top 50 largest corporations on the Fortune 500 each get somewhere around 100 lawsuits every day served on them.

                                      Bottom line, you can't run a big operation of any kind and not expect to get sued sooner or later, even if its a frivolious lawsuit with no merit.
                                      they all have lawyer on staff - AFF included, just for that kind of bullshit.
                                      This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                      Now read without the word dog.

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                                      • PrivateEye
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Mar 2003
                                        • 1784

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by SleazyDream

                                        there's probally a cut off point for volume on whoe they send them to - or I'm just cutier than you. :P
                                        So you did get something? what?

                                        Good grief charlie brown...what the hell is the cut off?

                                        Deeprub
                                        Arkansas Escort Ads

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                                        • KRL
                                          Entrepreneur
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 31429

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by SleazyDream


                                          they all have lawyer on staff - AFF included, just for that kind of bullshit.
                                          Yep, exactly. Some of the Fortune 500's have hundreds of attorneys in house.
                                          If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor
                                          from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION!

                                          *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
                                          Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

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                                          • PrivateEye
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2003
                                            • 1784

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by KRL




                                            If you've never sued someone or haven't been sued yourself, you're not a player.

                                            I forget the exact statistics, but the top 50 largest corporations on the Fortune 500 each get somewhere around 100 lawsuits every day served on them.

                                            Bottom line, you can't run a big operation of any kind and not expect to get sued sooner or later, even if its a frivolious lawsuit with no merit.
                                            So for me to be a player...you are saying I should sue them for my bonus

                                            Thanks for the advice...got a ideal now

                                            Deeprub
                                            Arkansas Escort Ads

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                                            • SleazyDream
                                              I'm here for SPORT
                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 41470

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Deeprub


                                              So you did get something? what?

                                              Good grief charlie brown...what the hell is the cut off?

                                              Deeprub
                                              a better question would be - what did you send them for x-mas? I've sent several people there gifts for x-mas for several years now.
                                              This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                              Now read without the word dog.

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                                              • PrivateEye
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Mar 2003
                                                • 1784

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by SleazyDream


                                                a better question would be - what did you send them for x-mas? I've sent several people there gifts for x-mas for several years now.
                                                I sent them a big ole bag of money each and every month

                                                Deeprub
                                                Arkansas Escort Ads

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                                                • The Alibi
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2003
                                                  • 332

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by TheProfessor
                                                  TheFly - yep... i'm not happy with our stats'
                                                  user interface - complete redesign this week.
                                                  Let me see about lowering the minimum
                                                  conversion on clicks so that you can stay
                                                  per click even if you send poor traffic. I
                                                  assume you also know that it takes a few
                                                  days to weeks before some people pay
                                                  for their membership so a good test is
                                                  about 1 month of traffic. Do you REALLY
                                                  need weekly payouts? As we have to
                                                  personally review each account we pay, it
                                                  takes about a week to review the thousands
                                                  of webmasters we send checks to. Personals
                                                  is not like paysites where guys just look and
                                                  pay... we have to review their profile, give
                                                  them service, etc.

                                                  Good luck - let me know if you have more ideas!
                                                  For some reason the title graphic in my stats interface and various graphs do not load properly or load with errors.

                                                  Also, the subaccount stats summary page is often incorrect.

                                                  Lastly, I'd also like to be able to get credit for the "Also check out" links in the lower right.

                                                  I think overalll, an unabridged version of the "Affiliate Hints and Tips" is in order!

                                                  I look forward to my June check! Keep up the good work.

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                                                  • The Alibi
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2003
                                                    • 332

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by john3299
                                                    true to that.. i sent datinggold.com about 10,000 uniques.. got over 500 free joins.. and made a whopping 360$! redirected traffic to adult friend finder and made 10 - 15 times more
                                                    I have some crappier traffic that doesn't convert well with AFF, so I send it to datinggold's amateurmatch. I don't want it lowering my AFF ratios, but I want to monetize it somehow. Amateurmatch free signups are often as good as that on AFF on this same traffic, but I get very few paid signups off of it. I figure it's money off of traffic that would have costed me with AFF.

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                                                    • detoxed
                                                      vip member
                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                      • 17798

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by The Alibi


                                                      I have some crappier traffic that doesn't convert well with AFF, so I send it to datinggold's amateurmatch. I don't want it lowering my AFF ratios, but I want to monetize it somehow. Amateurmatch free signups are often as good as that on AFF on this same traffic, but I get very few paid signups off of it. I figure it's money off of traffic that would have costed me with AFF.
                                                      Remember stats can be deceiving at first. We have people getting paid signups months after the free one.

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                                                      • sacX
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                        • 2998

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by TheProfessor
                                                        Do you REALLY need weekly payouts? As we have to
                                                        personally review each account we pay, it
                                                        takes about a week to review the thousands
                                                        of webmasters we send checks to. Personals
                                                        is not like paysites where guys just look and
                                                        pay... we have to review their profile, give
                                                        them service, etc.

                                                        Good luck - let me know if you have more ideas!
                                                        TheProfessor,
                                                        regarding reduction in percentage upfront to allow rebillings basically comes down to what will make me more money in the long term obviously.. Simply if the option was there I'd try it and see how it goes, although if it was less than 40% upfront I'd be a bit more hesitant

                                                        How about more frequent payouts for larger volume accounts that have a good track record with you?
                                                        Have Asian Language Traffic?

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                                                        • Theo
                                                          HAL 9000
                                                          • May 2001
                                                          • 34515

                                                          #78
                                                          AFF has been around forever. Sleazydream recommends them all the time and having in mind how difficult character he is, this says a lot.

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                                                          • TheFLY
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                            • 11856

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


                                                            Haven't they been #1 in the erotic dating market for a long time?
                                                            No I mean the #1 sponsor of adult sites... I think it could happen...

                                                            Especially with all the free porn --

                                                            Old quote -> "Info wants to be free."

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                                                            • TheFLY
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 11856

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by SleazyDream


                                                              when have you EVER known me to 'jump on the bandwagon"?

                                                              i ONLY endorse people i know and trust. AFF gets my HIGHEST endorsement.
                                                              I've used them for 4 + years.

                                                              aff has NEVER played any credit card games. they have a REAL product and are HONEST people. no trials - a full signup. Only REAL, honest companies can get away with that for YEARS.
                                                              They don't use 3rd party processing - they do all processing inhouse. NO games. the members you send them WON't GET the shit spammed outa them like soo many other 3rd party processors do to yoru clients.
                                                              Amen.

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                                                              • Brian
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 450

                                                                #81
                                                                I used them for quite a while a few years ago and did really well.

                                                                They were my favorite sponsor by far.

                                                                Then, they cancelled my account for spamming....even though the only place I ever used them was on my TGP and I never spammed them a day in my life.

                                                                I was quite pissed to say the least because I was owed a few grand.

                                                                I'm sure they just got their lines crossed somewhere, and I have no doubt they are a good sponsor that pays, but I personally haven't used them since.

                                                                And for those of you who will say "ya right man, sponsors don't cancel your account unless you were doing something wrong.".....I have three words for you. I'll give you the first letter of each word.....G...F...Y.

                                                                Last edited by Brian; 07-12-2003, 03:57 PM.
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                                                                • The Alibi
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                  • 332

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by detoxed


                                                                  Remember stats can be deceiving at first. We have people getting paid signups months after the free one.
                                                                  I have gotten a few after not promoting you guys for a week or two.

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                                                                  • TheProfessor
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 103

                                                                    #83
                                                                    completetosser - you can have us pay
                                                                    you for links to other sites of ours easily
                                                                    by modifying your referal links to us - see
                                                                    the webmaster area for details or email
                                                                    [email protected] and she can
                                                                    help you!

                                                                    Thanks for the kudos!
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                                                                    • TheProfessor
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                      • 103

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by TheFLY


                                                                      Yes, I realize the issues you have to deal with -- fraud -- hackers... but really the weekly or twice monthly payouts make the difference. Lots of guys use this money to pay rent -- so let's say Joe Webmaster gets paid $500 twice a month -- and he's counting on that money to pay the bills -- now that sponsor starts shaving or stops updating the tour or whatever -- sponsors go to crap all the time -- now he's got to find another sponsor that pays twice a month, or weekly... if he goes to a monthly sponsor like some IBill crap or DeluxePass, now he's got maybe 30-45 days with no big check... You might say -- well it's best to use lots of sponsors to even it all out -- but really most guys that do trading/bookmark sites (like movieposts) -- they only have time to maintain one site -- most webmasters I know still only work one site at a time -- and usually there is a primary ad position -- the top of the page... and that is always the breadwinner... nobody is going to take a chance to make you the primary ad for a month waiting for these slow surfers if they depend on their sites for month-to-month income... but think about it -- most freesite guys wouldn't be busting balls updating thumbs and gallery descriptions unless they needed the cash pretty badly because it's boring ass work... hehe but I suppose that's not really your problem -- maybe from your standpoint it doesn't matter -- the result is lots of guys sprinkle your links through the pages and you end up getting exposure to all the surfers anyway... I really just don't see how bookmark/trading based freesites can make you the primary sponsor (like amateur pages, nastydollars, etc. commonly are)... unless the advertiser takes a SleazyDream type of approach... If that really is the best advertising approach to send the most traffic, why not work on some content that we could integrate into our sites -- I think an IFriends ad model would work better for you -- instaead of "I'm a [Man] looking for a [Woman]" deal which is so old... and these dating script sources are now freeware... Maybe do some geotargeting to find the hottest female in the surfer's area and use THAT as an ad with an img src=blahblah.cgi... that would be very fucking cool... Actually I have way better ideas but I'm saving them for a rainy day
                                                                      Great post! First, we might be able to setup
                                                                      weekly or bi-monthly payouts but the added cost, delays in reviews, etc might make it actually worse for the affiliate. Second, regarding building "content-based traffic feeders" for our affiliates is on our radar. We already give http://likemynudephoto.com as
                                                                      one resource (#

                                                                      * You can send traffic to LikeMyNudePhoto.com and receive credit to your Adult Friendfinder affiliate account when the user signs up! Simply add your PID and site abbreviation to your referring link.
                                                                      (sample: if your AdultFriendfinder PID is p9814, then refer your traffic to http://likemynudephoto.com/go/p9814+ffadult) The site abbreviation for ALT.com is "bdsm")

                                                                      Regarding companies will cool content like SleazyDream, we're more inclined to work with them to create a feeder with it that we can give to our affiliates (with proper cuts of course)
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                                                                      • TheProfessor
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                        • 103

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by Deeprub
                                                                        I still think it smells

                                                                        Should be pretty easy for the CEO to check out stats...and shut me up!

                                                                        Until then...it's bullshit...anybody ever play that game

                                                                        Deeprub
                                                                        OK... taxid ends in a 4, email has a 358
                                                                        in it, and we've sent you 3 checks.... last one
                                                                        ends in 98 cents... btw, we found that
                                                                        promoting ALT.com from escort sites do
                                                                        well as people look for proDoms also look
                                                                        for escorts.

                                                                        BTW - thanks for the traffic - email [email protected] and she can
                                                                        work with you on some new ads
                                                                        CEO, Friend Finder
                                                                        The company you can trust for the highest personals payout -
                                                                        AdultFriendFinder.com (up to $173/order or $1.00/uni),
                                                                        Cams.com(crazy-high webcam conversions),
                                                                        ALT.com(up to $173/order or $1.00/uni),
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                                                                        • Xenophage
                                                                          Registered User
                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                          • 12122

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Good to see ya postin here Professor, I think it will be great for business. I know it has for me

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                                                                          • TheProfessor
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                            • 103

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by The Alibi


                                                                            I have some crappier traffic that doesn't convert well with AFF, so I send it to datinggold's amateurmatch. I don't want it lowering my AFF ratios, but I want to monetize it somehow. Amateurmatch free signups are often as good as that on AFF on this same traffic, but I get very few paid signups off of it. I figure it's money off of traffic that would have costed me with AFF.
                                                                            Do you mean as the traffic converts poorer
                                                                            than your sweet traffic, you're concerned of
                                                                            lowering your per-click rate with it? Why not
                                                                            just create a second account for it - I am gonna
                                                                            add another "worse than crap converting clicks" level on the click form so that you will at least get something for the traffic
                                                                            CEO, Friend Finder
                                                                            The company you can trust for the highest personals payout -
                                                                            AdultFriendFinder.com (up to $173/order or $1.00/uni),
                                                                            Cams.com(crazy-high webcam conversions),
                                                                            ALT.com(up to $173/order or $1.00/uni),
                                                                            OutPersonals.com (up to $173/order or $1.00/uni),
                                                                            Friend Finder (up to $2/free member,100% cut), Amigos.com, and more!.
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                                                                            • PrivateEye
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                              • 1784

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by TheProfessor


                                                                              OK... taxid ends in a 4, email has a 358
                                                                              in it, and we've sent you 3 checks.... last one
                                                                              ends in 98 cents... btw, we found that
                                                                              promoting ALT.com from escort sites do
                                                                              well as people look for proDoms also look
                                                                              for escorts.

                                                                              BTW - thanks for the traffic - email [email protected] and she can
                                                                              work with you on some new ads
                                                                              See that is the shit I was talking about BULLSHIT

                                                                              As many people know or maybe not...but in general friend finder has approved checks by the 5th of each month and I recieve it mine no later than the 18th....usually 15th

                                                                              but this month I had a problem...on the 9th the check still were not approved...normally would not be a problem but my wife and I had plan a vacation to florida...already got our condo on the beach for 10 days and plan on leaving on the 18th so I freaked because I wanted to have everything wrap up before we left.

                                                                              I e-mail friend finder....and they gladly 1 day me my check...thank you friend finder

                                                                              Did you not check with Charity Alexander about this?

                                                                              Just incase you have a big story to come back with....hell you did get a few things right about me....I am a fair guy...how about one more shot.

                                                                              What was the grand total of the check I recieved from AFF..1 dayed to me?

                                                                              And why do you have such a large signature...are you going to pay Lensman the $2500 a month so we can all spam for ya

                                                                              Deeprub
                                                                              Arkansas Escort Ads

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                                                                              • sacX
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                • 2998

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Deeprub,

                                                                                uninvited word of advice. Shutup
                                                                                Have Asian Language Traffic?

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                                                                                • PrivateEye
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                  • 1784

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by sacX
                                                                                  Deeprub,

                                                                                  uninvited word of advice. Shutup
                                                                                  What
                                                                                  Arkansas Escort Ads

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                                                                                  • TheProfessor
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                    • 103

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by Deeprub


                                                                                    I e-mail friend finder....and they gladly 1 day me my check...thank you friend finder

                                                                                    Did you not check with Charity Alexander about this?

                                                                                    Just incase you have a big story to come back with....hell you did get a few things right about me....I am a fair guy...how about one more shot.

                                                                                    What was the grand total of the check I recieved from AFF..1 dayed to me?

                                                                                    Deeprub
                                                                                    Troy... I sign bunches of checks per day... we
                                                                                    have 150 (or so) people in the company so I
                                                                                    don't remember signing *your* check. Mike,
                                                                                    Raquel, and Charity do a great job typically
                                                                                    getting checks out. What next, a blood test? ;)
                                                                                    CEO, Friend Finder
                                                                                    The company you can trust for the highest personals payout -
                                                                                    AdultFriendFinder.com (up to $173/order or $1.00/uni),
                                                                                    Cams.com(crazy-high webcam conversions),
                                                                                    ALT.com(up to $173/order or $1.00/uni),
                                                                                    OutPersonals.com (up to $173/order or $1.00/uni),
                                                                                    Friend Finder (up to $2/free member,100% cut), Amigos.com, and more!.
                                                                                    Make money from chinese, indian, filipino,
                                                                                    and korean traffic (no dialer or CCs needed!)

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                                                                                    • sacX
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                      • 2998

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      TheProffessor,

                                                                                      I was curious if you can get more than 55% with AFF if you have a large volume of daily orders? and curious what these levels might be.. If you care to say publically
                                                                                      Have Asian Language Traffic?

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                                                                                      • TheProfessor
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                        • 103

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        First, if you look at your cut it's already more
                                                                                        than 55% if you include the bonus we give
                                                                                        for free signups (most larger affiliates get
                                                                                        about 59% cut with bonuses). For very
                                                                                        large affiliiates we do offer some deals
                                                                                        of course... depends on volume, exclusivity,
                                                                                        cobranding (we cobrand AFF for some big
                                                                                        names), and duration of traffic. Special
                                                                                        deals typically go to our top handful of
                                                                                        affiliates. Mike typical handles these - talk
                                                                                        to Raquel to setup.
                                                                                        CEO, Friend Finder
                                                                                        The company you can trust for the highest personals payout -
                                                                                        AdultFriendFinder.com (up to $173/order or $1.00/uni),
                                                                                        Cams.com(crazy-high webcam conversions),
                                                                                        ALT.com(up to $173/order or $1.00/uni),
                                                                                        OutPersonals.com (up to $173/order or $1.00/uni),
                                                                                        Friend Finder (up to $2/free member,100% cut), Amigos.com, and more!.
                                                                                        Make money from chinese, indian, filipino,
                                                                                        and korean traffic (no dialer or CCs needed!)

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                                                                                        • SleazyDream
                                                                                          I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                          • 41470

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by Deeprub


                                                                                          I sent them a big ole bag of money each and every month

                                                                                          Deeprub
                                                                                          and they send you a big pile of money each month - if you want to get gifts maybe YOU should anty up and send some out YOURSELF before you start bitching about the ones you didn't get.

                                                                                          gifts are just that - GIFTS. you get what you send out
                                                                                          This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                                          Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                          • SleazyDream
                                                                                            I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                            • 41470

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by TheProfessor



                                                                                            Regarding companies will cool content like SleazyDream, we're more inclined to work with them to create a feeder with it that we can give to our affiliates (with proper cuts of course)
                                                                                            thanks for the kind words.
                                                                                            This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                                            Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                            • sincityvixen
                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                              • 13

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              I love AFF, they always pay me!

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