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  • mach
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    • May 2003
    • 281

    #1

    shave percentage likely to increase

    yay
  • SetTheWorldonFire
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    • Feb 2002
    • 7444

    #2
    shaving will stay the same
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    • twistyneck
      So Fucking Banned
      • Jan 2002
      • 4660

      #3
      No doubt. Dump your sponsors and run your own shit so you won't have to worry about it.

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      • mach
        Confirmed User
        • May 2003
        • 281

        #4
        Originally posted by twistyneck
        No doubt. Dump your sponsors and run your own shit so you won't have to worry about it.
        yep

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        • BlackCrayon
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jun 2003
          • 19634

          #5
          Originally posted by twistyneck
          No doubt. Dump your sponsors and run your own shit so you won't have to worry about it.
          if only everyone could afford to...
          you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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          • twistyneck
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jan 2002
            • 4660

            #6
            Originally posted by BlackCrayon

            if only everyone could afford to...
            You don't have to spend a ton of money to do it. You just have to have the will to do it.

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            • mach
              Confirmed User
              • May 2003
              • 281

              #7
              Originally posted by twistyneck


              You don't have to spend a ton of money to do it. You just have to have the will to do it.
              not to mention 'the force'

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              • tootie
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2003
                • 6041

                #8
                I have the will (very strong will) but I STILL need some money to do it. I'm working on it, but it's running me broke trying to get enough content to retain members.


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                • High Quality
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                  • Feb 2002
                  • 5741

                  #9
                  Originally posted by twistyneck


                  You don't have to spend a ton of money to do it. You just have to have the will to do it.
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                  • twistyneck
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 4660

                    #10
                    Originally posted by tootie
                    I have the will (very strong will) but I STILL need some money to do it. I'm working on it, but it's running me broke trying to get enough content to retain members.
                    There are tons of content guys out there that will cut you deals on semi-exclusive stuff. Just ask them. While you're at it, refine your niche and fucking own it. For example, if you are doing a teen site, fuck that, do blonde teens in green panties or whatever and believe me, when the freaks looking for blonde teens in green panties find your site, they will sign up. See what I'm getting at?

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                    • the_mail_man
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                      • May 2003
                      • 176

                      #11
                      Yep, first thing I thought of when I heard this new Visa shit. What makes me laugh is you will see webmasters get flaming mad when they have to delete a spam message or two, but most never mention the shave problem. That's taking money they earned right out of there pockets and they are so non-shalaunt about it.

                      I think most webmasters actually think it's a myth or something. Who the fuck knows...
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                      • mach
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                        • May 2003
                        • 281

                        #12
                        Originally posted by the_mail_man
                        Yep, first thing I thought of when I heard this new Visa shit. What makes me laugh is you will see webmasters get flaming mad when they have to delete a spam message or two, but most never mention the shave problem. That's taking money they earned right out of there pockets and they are so non-shalaunt about it.

                        I think most webmasters actually think it's a myth or something. Who the fuck knows...
                        oh i know its happening allright wtf can one do about it though?

                        besides opening your own operation?

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                        • twistyneck
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 4660

                          #13
                          Originally posted by mach


                          oh i know its happening allright wtf can one do about it though?

                          besides opening your own operation?
                          Keep switching sponsors until you find one that doesn't shave.

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                          • mach
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                            • May 2003
                            • 281

                            #14
                            Originally posted by twistyneck


                            Keep switching sponsors until you find one that doesn't shave.

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                            • bhutocracy
                              Not making A Comeback
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 10218

                              #15
                              shaving doesn't mean shit. its what you take home that counts and it's the only thing you can count on.

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                              • mach
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                                • May 2003
                                • 281

                                #16
                                Originally posted by bhutocracy
                                shaving doesn't mean shit. its what you take home that counts and it's the only thing you can count on.
                                you sir are an idiot

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                                • jimmyf
                                  OU812
                                  • Feb 2001
                                  • 12651

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by twistyneck
                                  No doubt. Dump your sponsors and run your own shit so you won't have to worry about it.
                                  I'm thinking
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                                  • the_mail_man
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                                    • May 2003
                                    • 176

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by bhutocracy
                                    shaving doesn't mean shit. its what you take home that counts and it's the only thing you can count on.
                                    i can't even count how many ways that statment is fucked up
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                                    • bhutocracy
                                      Not making A Comeback
                                      • Dec 2001
                                      • 10218

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by mach


                                      you sir are an idiot
                                      you sir are a nonce.. i think it's infallably been proven that webmasters don't care if they're being shaved if the persign up amount is high enough.

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                                      • jimmyf
                                        OU812
                                        • Feb 2001
                                        • 12651

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by twistyneck


                                        Keep switching sponsors until you find one that doesn't shave.
                                        More thinking
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                                        • rastakit
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                                          • Nov 2002
                                          • 207

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by mach


                                          oh i know its happening allright wtf can one do about it though?

                                          besides opening your own operation?
                                          Or send your traffic through our audited re-direct program called ClickTruth...

                                          We've signed a number of major Sponsors up...

                                          The deal? They pay us a flat upfront fee to audit their program, they plug in our API so we get postback data directly from their processor before they can fuck with it, and they agree to let us test join them at random...

                                          Nice for the webmaster, bad for shaving programs...

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                                          • bhutocracy
                                            Not making A Comeback
                                            • Dec 2001
                                            • 10218

                                            #22
                                            people are easily manipulated, show them $50 a signup and they'll flock there - even if they shave 50% they'll get more webmasters than a $25 that doesn't shave.

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                                            • mach
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                                              • May 2003
                                              • 281

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by bhutocracy


                                              you sir are a nonce.. i think it's infallably been proven that webmasters don't care if they're being shaved if the persign up amount is high enough.
                                              whats new? The average webmaster is an idiot

                                              and your one of them.

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                                              • jimmyf
                                                OU812
                                                • Feb 2001
                                                • 12651

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by bhutocracy


                                                you sir are a nonce.. i think it's infallably been proven that webmasters don't care if they're being shaved if the persign up amount is high enough.
                                                I sure the fuck care and only an nit wit wouldn't, which there are a lot off on this board and you know it.
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                                                • bhutocracy
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                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                  • 10218

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by mach


                                                  whats new? The average webmaster is an idiot

                                                  and your one of them.
                                                  whatever.

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                                                  • Brown Bear
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                                                    • May 2002
                                                    • 4982

                                                    #26
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                                                    • bhutocracy
                                                      Not making A Comeback
                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                      • 10218

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jimmyf
                                                      I sure the fuck care and only an nit wit wouldn't, which there are a lot off on this board and you know it.
                                                      of course, but you've got to assume that every program shaves, all you can do is look at your paychecks, whoever gives you the most amount wins, which was pretty much my first statement.

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                                                      • BlackCrayon
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                        • 19634

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by twistyneck


                                                        You don't have to spend a ton of money to do it. You just have to have the will to do it.
                                                        i agree that will plays a large roll but wouldn't it cost say around 5-10k? depending on what you set up exactly... and since im canadian, can i even set one up?
                                                        you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                        • bhutocracy
                                                          Not making A Comeback
                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                          • 10218

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Brown Bear
                                                          The future is revshare
                                                          yeah but you can still shave revshare signups and say "look at me we've got 99% revshare"

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                                                          • jimmyf
                                                            OU812
                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                            • 12651

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by rastakit


                                                            Or send your traffic through our audited re-direct program called ClickTruth...

                                                            We've signed a number of major Sponsors up...

                                                            The deal? They pay us a flat upfront fee to audit their program, they plug in our API so we get postback data directly from their processor before they can fuck with it, and they agree to let us test join them at random...

                                                            Nice for the webmaster, bad for shaving programs...

                                                            Email us if you want to give it a try it's free to use.

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                                                            I have never heard of your program. Would you please post a list of sponsors that use your program. If true this looks sweet.
                                                            Only porn site I see is Flashcash, but I've never seen on there site anything about your program though that I can recall.
                                                            Last edited by jimmyf; 07-11-2003, 09:26 PM.
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                                                            • rastakit
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                                                              • Nov 2002
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by jimmyf
                                                              I have never heard of your program. Would you please post a list of sponsors that use your program. If true this looks sweet.
                                                              Yes..Ironically we were going to formally launch at Miami...so much for marketing plans, eh?

                                                              We currently audit Flashcash and have approval to audit and are integrating with : TopBucks, Pornkings and Silvercash...We are also bringing more online as fast as possible. We do want to make sure everything is airtight with each before moving on to the next...

                                                              That said, in this environment, if you have a Sponsor you really want to work with...let me know (or have them contact us about our service), and we'll plug them in as soon as possible. We believe it will make everyone sleep a little better....

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                                                              • the_mail_man
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                                                                • May 2003
                                                                • 176

                                                                #32
                                                                congrats Flashcash, Pornkings, and Silver Cash for stepping up to the plate and letting you examine them
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                                                                • rastakit
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                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                  • 207

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by the_mail_man
                                                                  congrats Flashcash, Pornkings, and Silver Cash for stepping up to the plate and letting you examine them
                                                                  Yes...on the one hand they are brave, on the other hand, they see the writing on the wall and are good businessmen...either way...it'a a win/win.
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                                                                  • mach
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                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                    • 281

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by rastakit


                                                                    Or send your traffic through our audited re-direct program called ClickTruth...

                                                                    We've signed a number of major Sponsors up...

                                                                    The deal? They pay us a flat upfront fee to audit their program, they plug in our API so we get postback data directly from their processor before they can fuck with it, and they agree to let us test join them at random...

                                                                    Nice for the webmaster, bad for shaving programs...

                                                                    Email us if you want to give it a try it's free to use.

                                                                    The Posse will Change Everything.

                                                                    [email protected]

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                                                                    • fantasyman
                                                                      Let's do some business together
                                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                                      • 973

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by rastakit


                                                                      Yes..Ironically we were going to formally launch at Miami...so much for marketing plans, eh?

                                                                      We currently audit Flashcash and have approval to audit and are integrating with : TopBucks, Pornkings and Silvercash...We are also bringing more online as fast as possible. We do want to make sure everything is airtight with each before moving on to the next...

                                                                      That said, in this environment, if you have a Sponsor you really want to work with...let me know (or have them contact us about our service), and we'll plug them in as soon as possible. We believe it will make everyone sleep a little better....

                                                                      Edge
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                                                                      • bhutocracy
                                                                        Not making A Comeback
                                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                                        • 10218

                                                                        #36
                                                                        what exactly does auditing entail?

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                                                                        • rastakit
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                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                          • 207

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by fantasyman


                                                                          CECash would be interested in being audited also, please email details to fabian at cecash dot com
                                                                          On it's way....

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                                                                          • bhutocracy
                                                                            Not making A Comeback
                                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                                            • 10218

                                                                            #38
                                                                            how would you stop someone taking out a shave script for the auditing duration and putting it back in when you're finished?

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                                                                            • =^..^=
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                              • 6935

                                                                              #39
                                                                              I know of sponsors who are shaving 80%
                                                                              how the fuck can the justify turning it up any more than that??!!!!

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                                                                              • mach
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                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                • 281

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by =^..^=
                                                                                I know of sponsors who are shaving 80%
                                                                                how the fuck can the justify turning it up any more than that??!!!!

                                                                                i wouldnt put it past them

                                                                                soon it will be 100% then what will they do?

                                                                                start charging the webmaster 30 dollars per sign?

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                                                                                • rastakit
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                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                  • 207

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by bhutocracy
                                                                                  how would you stop someone taking out a shave script for the auditing duration and putting it back in when you're finished?
                                                                                  Well, I don't want to get into too much detail...because, as the Sponsors are fond of saying, we don't want to "educate" anyone:-)...

                                                                                  But, suffice to say, our audits are random and use multiple traffic sources from web masters. In fact, the more of you who sign-up, the more difficult it will be for Sponsors to mess with the system...which would be ideal (for all involved)....

                                                                                  Send me an email and let's chat...

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                                                                                  • bhutocracy
                                                                                    Not making A Comeback
                                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                                    • 10218

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by =^..^=
                                                                                    I know of sponsors who are shaving 80%
                                                                                    how the fuck can the justify turning it up any more than that??!!!!

                                                                                    I bet they're still getting heaps of affiliates attracted to the high sign ups like flies to shit.

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                                                                                    • bhutocracy
                                                                                      Not making A Comeback
                                                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                                                      • 10218

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by rastakit


                                                                                      Well, I don't want to get into too much detail...because, as the Sponsors are fond of saying, we don't want to "educate" anyone:-)...
                                                                                      yeah good idea how much does an audit cost?

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                                                                                      • the_mail_man
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                                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                                        • 176

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        my best sponser hands down pays 25.00/join and 15.00/rebill. What does that tell you
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                                                                                        • bhutocracy
                                                                                          Not making A Comeback
                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                          • 10218

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by the_mail_man
                                                                                          my best sponser hands down pays 25.00/join and 15.00/rebill. What does that tell you
                                                                                          good to see.

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                                                                                          • rastakit
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                                                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                                                            • 207

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by bhutocracy


                                                                                            yeah good idea how much does an audit cost?
                                                                                            We charge Sponsors a flat fee to get set-up and a smaller flat fee to maintain the system...

                                                                                            If you run a program and would like to chat, send me a note. To push traffic through the system is free...if you want us to specifically audit YOUR traffic we can do that as well...but we should chat offline for that...:-)
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                                                                                            • TheProfessor
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                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                              • 103

                                                                                              #47
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                                                                                              • rastakit
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                                                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                                                • 207

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by TheProfessor
                                                                                                We never shave and never will.
                                                                                                Send me an email or hit me on ICQ 173121828 and let's make that statement official....

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                                                                                                • berg.the.red
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                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by the_mail_man
                                                                                                  congrats Flashcash, Pornkings, and Silver Cash for stepping up to the plate and letting you examine them
                                                                                                  ... is that like that "turn your head and cough" thing ?
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                                                                                                  • Pointless
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                                                                                                    • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by rastakit


                                                                                                    Or send your traffic through our audited re-direct program called ClickTruth...

                                                                                                    We've signed a number of major Sponsors up...

                                                                                                    The deal? They pay us a flat upfront fee to audit their program, they plug in our API so we get postback data directly from their processor before they can fuck with it, and they agree to let us test join them at random...

                                                                                                    Nice for the webmaster, bad for shaving programs...

                                                                                                    Email us if you want to give it a try it's free to use.

                                                                                                    The Posse will Change Everything.

                                                                                                    [email protected]
                                                                                                    good to see

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