When was the last time catholics or jews built bombs in church?

I am by far not an Islamic apologists but i do understand that before you can point a finger at an entire group then you need to make sure that your own faith's hands are clean(assuming you are a christian of some kind) also

2 or 3 terrorist acts from non-muslims in the past 10 years is a bit naive. How many times have their been the IRA bombings?

Hey I'm with you but unfortunately without the Pope in place you would have the whole place fill up with Jihadis.

My point was that simply being a muslim does not make one a terrorist, which many people in this thread seems to support. You can argue that the religion was founded on violence and conquest and preaches extremist sentiments towards non-muslims, but that still doesn't make every muslim a bad person anymore than all WW2 germans were say Nazi fanatics. Of course it would suck if I'm wrong but..

now, now, 12clicks...where in my question did I say there wasn't any muslim terrorism and where did I say it was all Christians?

Let us review our history by taking the following quiz:



1. At the 1972 Olympics in Munich, athletes were kidnapped and murdered by:

a. Olga Korbut

b. Sitting Bull

c. Arnold Schwarzeneger

d. Muslim male extremists between ages 17 and 40



2. In 1979, the U.S. Embassy in Iran was taken over by:

a. Lost Norwegians

b. Elvis

c. A tour bus full of 80 year-old women

d. Muslim male extremists between ages 17 and 40



3. During the 1980's, a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:

a. John Dillinger

b. The Swedish King

c. Boy Scouts

d. Muslim male extremists between ages 17 and 40



4. In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:

a. A pizza delivery boy

b. Pee Wee Herman

c. Geraldo Rivera making up for a slow day

d. Muslim male extremists between ages 17 and 40



5. In 1985, the ship, Achille Lauro was seized and a 70 year-old American in a wheelchair was murdered and thrown overboard by:

a. The Smurfs

b. Davy Jones

c. The Little Mermaid

d. Muslim male extremists between ages 17 and 40



6. In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked in Athens, and a U.S. Navy diver was murdered by:

a. Captain Kid

b. Charles Lindbergh

c. Mother Teresa

d. Muslim extremists between ages 17 and 40



7. In 1988, Pan Am flight 103 was bombed by:

a. Scooby Doo

b. The Tooth Fairy

c. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid

d. Muslin male extremists between ages 17 and 40



8. In 1993, the World Trade Center in New York was bombed the first time by:

a. Richard Simmons

b. Grandma Moses

c. Michael Jordan

d. Muslim male extremists between ages 17 and 40



9. In 1998, the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:

a. Mr. Rogers

b. Hillary Clinton, to take attentions from Wild Bill's women problem

c. World Wrestling Federation to advertise "Mustapha the Merciless"

d. Muslim male extremists between ages 17 and 40



10. On September 11, 2001, the World Trade Center in New York was destroyed, the Pentagon attacked, and 3,000 people were killed as a result of four hijacked airliners diverted by:

a. Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck and the Looney Toons Gang

b. The Florida Supreme Court

c. Mr. Bean

d. Muslim male extremists between ages 17 and 40



11. In 2002, the United States and her allies fought in Afghanistan against:

a. Enron

b. The Lutheran Church

c. Al Davis and the Oakland Raiders

d. Muslim male Extremists between ages 17 and 40



12. In 2002, reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered in Pakistan by:

a. Bonny and Clyde

b. Captain Kangaroo

c. Billy Graham

d. Muslim male extremists between ages 17 and 40.









If you answered "d." for 3 or less out of 12, kill yourself now.

If you answered "d." for 6 out of 12, you're an idiot.

If you answered "d." for 10 out of 12, you're less of an idiot, but still a bit of a twit.

If you answered "d." for 12 out of 12, congratulations, you win a date with 12clicks.

I notice you left the Omagh bombing and a few others off your poll?

The post above this one is probably copied from Anne Coulter's latest book.

You can make a similar naming Christians/Catholics/Jews if you want to, but why worry about facts when ridiculous propaganda is so much more fun?

exactly the case I was thinking about. Try telling those families that wasn't terrorism. I was here for that and it was terrorism pure and simple. Not only did they plant one bomb in the street they placed another timed to go off in the opposite direction so that when people were running from the first bomb they would get caught up in the second one.

Anyway, we answered the question and then the question changed ;)

considering all germans supported the Nazis and all suffered for it,
I'm happy to compare them to muslims.

This is conjecture on your part with no basis in fact.
Can you then please explain the actions of muslims in pakhistan, the phillipines, and indonisia?

put your money where you mouth is and make your own poll where the answers are all connected to any western culture.
You can't because you'll be shown as a silly fraud.

really? please quote this question you answered. I'm having trouble finding who asked it.

No, you're an islamic apologist and you have no idea what my faith is.

No, what's naive is to think you can trot out this type of bullshit without being challenged on it.

IRA bombings in the last 10 years = a minutely small percentage of muslim acts of terrorism and a minutely small % of death caused by muslims.

Its easy to dig up an exception to the rule but the rule is 99.9% of the worlds terrorists are muslims.

" The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war. "

" Those who feel like they can intimidate our fellow citizens to take out their anger don't represent the best of America, they represent the worst of humankind, and they should be ashamed of that kind of behavior. "

-- George W. Bush


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...010917-11.html

he's always been misunderestimated

There's some folks in the Irish Republican Army that are probably making bombs in churches

Quite a lot. Another example of Catholic terrorists are Basque separatists. No one religion has a monopoly on the use of violence for political ends.

i think the follwing excerpt from that page will shoot that retards mental abilities to shit.
holy shit did anyone else read that whole thing? that guy is a serious fuckin wacko.

yea hes just trying to prevent the ones that are already here from turning on us. well at the least the ones that havent already decided to do so. and are just "sleeping"

You mean, he was lying ?

Unreal. You'd have made a good shiester lawyer, that is.... if you aren't one already.

Are you anti-Bush or something ?

Not really, why? You're the one asking if he's a liar.

Then what exactly is it that you're trying to say ? Anything ?

I'll dumb it down for you bro.....

Why says something that seemed quite straightforward to me, and you instantly put a negative slant on it by asking if Bush "was lying"...... nice convenient little spin on Why's meaning..... pretty much like a sheister lawyer would do.


That help you out any?

"Why" seemed to infer that the President's speech was false. That he said things that were untrue, for an ulterior purpose. That seems to infer to me he is suggesting that the President was lying.

How else would you have understood it ?

To you, obviously.
I don't percieve anything other than Why meaning that Bush was actually doing what a president is supposed to do. i.e. Look out for his people.


Maybe Why will come set us straight.

Which is why I asked the question. Duh.

When was the last time an American president mislead his people in order to justify a war?

Seriously though, I am against Islamic immigration to the West, but how can you blame them for building bombs? I would be surprised if half of you even knew what reason Osama bin Ladin gave for the S11 attacks ...

Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to justify such an attack, and in a perfect world it would not happen. But, in a world were America (and Australia for that matter) support the occupation of an Arab nation by Israel, what do you expect?

Americans like to zone out and not take notice of the effects of their foreign policy. On the other side of the world, thanks to your tax payer dollars, women and children are being shot dead by the IDF.

On one hand, you have Israelites living in a first world country, with one of the world?s largest militaries and nuclear stockpiles. On the other hand, you have the Palestinians (who are just across the border) living like scum under in an occupied country, with no military and no money.

All I can say is what do you expect? You are funding a war against the Arabs, and than you accuse any Arab who speaks out against America and Israel of being an extremist...

Again, I am not trying to justify the killing of civilians, but I do see justification for the anger and hatred Arabs have for *parts* of the West. Also, I am not some liberal self-hater, and I do vote Conservative, but I am just calling it how I see it?it is time America stopped funding a war that has no benefit to them!

And I saw the negativite implication of your question, so I said you would make a good sheister lawyer. Duh.

I appreciate the attentiveness. I invite you to continue and follow me as I post. If I ask a question for the author of a post to clarify his comment, maybe you could interject your commentary before he can answer it himself. Then we can both pretend that it was enlightening.

Well, as I read the subject of the thread the question was:
When was the last time catholics or jews built bombs in church?


various people mentioned the IRA for one. The UK & Spain (both standing 'shoulder to shoulder') I am sure would be happy to point out their recent cases of 'non muslim' terrorism. Which of course does not mean that muslim terrorism doesn't exist but that wasn't in the question.

And what was your answer again?
I missed the url of the news article with your answer in it.

Never. but the uniformed like to believe otherwise.

Is it because of the billions of dollars the US gives muslim countries every year?
I think so too and have often stated this should stop.

really? which arab nation is that?
The nation of Palestine? You mean the president of palestine didn't object to having his country taken over by jews in 1948? what did the country of palestine's UN representative say about it?

Nice propaganda but not true. Women and children are being shot dead because their men are terrorists and hide among them. true cowards letting their families be killed just to make israel look bad. Lot of value for life there.

They were allowed to live freely in Israel until they started killing people thru terrorism. The fact that Israel lives in a first world country and palestinians live in third world conditions speaks volumes for the type of savages palestinians are.
both peoples have been given billions of dollars. One used the money wisely, one didn't.

Is this what they teach in AU or didn't you pay attention in school?

the palestine issue is an issue used by muslims to rouse the rabble.
It seems you've been roused.

you need to see news articles to know the IRA is real and bomb people? You don't know about the Omagh bombing? You don't know about the wave of terrorism that has been going across Spain for years now?

Oh well, I'm happy to educate on the Omagh issue as I was in this country when it happened and it was heart wrenching.

So, a few articles:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/events/no...ews/152156.stm
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omagh_bombing
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/europ...bles_8-19.html

here is a page that does a timeline of IRA bombings in England alone (lets not forget the shottings on both sides that go on in N.Ireland itsself..or the kids who couldn't walk to school because adults decided to scream and throw things at them because they were the wrong kind of Christian) since '96.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4233429,00.html

There were many before then. Now, I moved here on June 11, 1996. So, in that time there have been nine major bombs - including Manchester which took out a big chunk of a city block and happened 4 days after I arrived. In addition to the bombs that actually went off they have found explosives strapped under a major bridge in London and stopped a few bombs from even being planted.

My personal fave of all the things that have happened in London since I have lived here is the following:

September 20 2000
An anti-tank rocket is fired at MI6 headquarters in London, causing damage but no injuries. The Real IRA is thought to be responsible.

Yes..an anti-tank rocket was fired by Christians onto what is roughly the equivilent of the CIA headquarters.

So, whilist I enjoy the game of going around with suggesting that any of us ever said there weren't muslim terrorists that does not mean that there aren't Christian terrorists. Frankly, when you live in a city that doesn't allow waste bins because the IRA used to plant bombs in them because the metal shrapnel was good for injuring people and where everyone has known to report unattended bags for decades it is a bit rich to hear there aren't Christian terrorists.

here's yer terrorists:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...460157,00.html

'Bush urged Christians, "Put on the full armor of God and fight with the weapons of spiritual warfare."

that article makes me want to vomit.

ok
is your answer below? Because I'm confused. It's ok to prattle on about some local bombings that affect you but lets not pretend you answered my question. Islam commits acts of terror world wide almost daily.
comparing them to a group (without question a terrorist group that should be hunted down) who you have to go back 3 years to find a bombing over is a poor argument.
Front page of the NYtimes has a story of an islamic bombing in pakhistan that killed 49 people *YESTERDAY*

12clicks...read the thread title (ie question) - where in that does it ask if muslims ever commit terrorism?

Also,the only reason there hasn't been a bombing in three years is either the police has stopped them (real IRA) or because of the good Friday agreement. Shootings still go on all the time.

Also, local? Well you know, it is always local to someone.

Oh, and as some of those bombs were built with funds that came from Americans it may be a sore topic for some brits ;)

At last he admits it... lol...

Muslims all over the world hate Jews for occupying/degrading/killing muslims so if they could get Israelis in their own lands they'd avenge on them instead of the 'jew supporters'. As a jew yourself, why don't you just accept responsibility or get your people to fight your own wars without the U.S. backing? I tell ya muslims would become harmless to Christians if you did Cos you are in the roots of it all.

Two Arab terrorists are in a locker room taking a shower after their bomb making class, when one notices the other has a huge cork stuck in his butt.

"If you do not mind me saying," said the second, "that cork looks very uncomfortable. Why do you not take it out?"

"I regret I cannot," lamented the first Arab. "It is permanently stuck in my butt."

"I do not understand," said the other.

The first Arab says, "I was walking along the beach and I tripped over an oil lamp. There was a puff of smoke, and then a huge old man in an American flag attire with a white beard and top hat came boiling out. He said, "I am Uncle Sam, the Genie. I can grant you one wish."

I said, "No shit?"

God Bless America!