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07-01-2003, 11:13 PM

that won't help himself, or let me help him.

I kneel before you bro. Your talent exceeds my capabilities. I wish you would open up a little bro. The starving artist thing isn't going to pay the rent.

The smart people already know you're the fucking man.

I'm only trying to help man. Any way I can.

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07-01-2003, 11:14 PM

Let me at him I need a real REAL good designer.
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07-01-2003, 11:16 PM

Stop bothering me.

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07-01-2003, 11:16 PM

who who

the revolution is coming.
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07-01-2003, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by ry0t
Let me at him I need a real REAL good designer.

I'm not at liberty to give that up. This man is a friend, and until (if ever) he says go, I won't fan the flame.

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07-01-2003, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

I'm not at liberty to give that up. This man is a friend, and until (if ever) he says go, I won't fan the flame.

Well you know who wants him first.

edit: only because youre not available
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07-01-2003, 11:21 PM

after plenty of requests, im available for ms paint designs
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07-01-2003, 11:24 PM

Thanks for the kind words AMP
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07-01-2003, 11:45 PM

Did you and Viper kiss and make up?

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07-01-2003, 11:50 PM

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Did you and Viper kiss and make up?

Let me categorically state here and now:

Viper (Marvin) is a fucking sham. Make up? There's nothing to make up over. The kid is a fucking punk snot-nosed crybaby hack wannabe designer kid.

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07-02-2003, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
Viper (Marvin) is a fucking sham. Make up? There's nothing to make up over. The kid is a fucking punk snot-nosed crybaby hack wannabe designer kid.

so... i guess it's not viper then?

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07-02-2003, 12:22 AM

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so... i guess it's not viper then?

I'm wondering if there's the tiniest teensiest bit of a chance.

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07-02-2003, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
that won't help himself, or let me help him.

I kneel before you bro. Your talent exceeds my capabilities. I wish you would open up a little bro. The starving artist thing isn't going to pay the rent.

The smart people already know you're the fucking man.

I'm only trying to help man. Any way I can.

I'll let ya know then Amp
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07-02-2003, 12:30 AM

Amp,

no need to praise our designers like that

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07-02-2003, 12:38 AM

Make a tour is one thing.

Change how thay are all done is another feat in itself.

Design is evolution however the tools are becomming limited again.

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07-02-2003, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by AlienQ
Make a tour is one thing.

Change how thay are all done is another feat in itself.

Design is evolution however the tools are becomming limited again.

I guarantee this fucker influenced everything you fucking do.

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07-02-2003, 12:40 AM

Well I know Mikew influenced alot of designers.

he def. is a top notch artist and person

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07-02-2003, 12:41 AM

Design is like Kungfu.

There is always someone better.

But then popular opinion is what makes the final call.
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07-02-2003, 12:43 AM

Originally posted by AlienQ
Design is like Kungfu.

There is always someone better.

But then popular opinion is what makes the final call.

Bullshit. That's the opinion of the uneducated. Popular opinion has NOTHING to do with it. It's fucking formulas and math and creative fucking excellence that dictates what you are fucking exposed to. You think those billboards you pass on the freeway on your way to work are the product of "popular fucking opinion"?

Time to wake the fuck up Alien.

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07-02-2003, 12:46 AM

Popular opinion is not based on what the buyer or those that think somthing is great. Its results are what the popular opinion is from.

20 webmasters critiqueing is nothing compared to 1.2 Million page views in a day is and the cash that comes from it.

Bottom line is the popular opinion.

Or did you miss somthing in your formula's?

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07-02-2003, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by AlienQ
Popular opinion is not based on what the buyer or those that think somthing is great. Its results are what the popular opinion is from.

20 webmasters critiqueing is nothing compared to 1.2 Million page views in a day is and the cash that comes from it.

Bottom line is the popular opinion.

you need to go back to production school d00d.

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07-02-2003, 12:49 AM

MikeW from Florida eh?

Heh he was the FIRST adult designer I ever saw on the net doing some really fly shit.

When most people were doing "geocities" pages, MikeW was already cooking shit up on adbobe photoshop 2

Definatley a legend in adult design
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07-02-2003, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by VideoVoyeur
MikeW from Florida eh?

Heh he was the FIRST adult designer I ever saw on the net doing some really fly shit.

When most people were doing "geocities" pages, MikeW was already cooking shit up on adbobe photoshop 2

Definatley a legend in adult design

this ain't about Mike.

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07-02-2003, 12:56 AM

"You think those billboards you pass on the freeway on your way to work are the product of "popular fucking opinion"?

Yes. They are infact the product of popular opinion.

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07-02-2003, 12:56 AM

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"You think those billboards you pass on the freeway on your way to work are the product of "popular fucking opinion"?

Yes. They are infact the product of popular opinion.

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07-02-2003, 01:01 AM

If I am wrong...

Then why does Pepsi and Coke have nearly the same logo they have both had for nearly emmm 50 years?

I mean why not change it?
If no one cared then they would change it every week.
If they changed it a little its still a product of the former proven record.
If they leave it alone for eternity it becomes engrained much as it has today.
Albeit the logo has chaged slightly for both products and yet the design concept is the same.

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07-02-2003, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by AlienQ
If I am wrong...

Then why does Pepsi and Coke have nearly the same logo they have both had for nearly emmm 50 years?

I mean why not change it?
If no one cared then they would change it every week.
If they changed it a little its still a product of the former proven record.
If they leave it alone for eternity it becomes engrained much as it has today.
Albeit the logo has chaged slightly for both products and yet the design concept is the same.

and what exactly makes you think that has anything to do with "popular opinion"?

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07-02-2003, 01:06 AM

Maybe your missing my concept of what Popular opinion is from. Popular Opinion is the masses that consume what ever product or service "Presentation" that instigates action from the audience.

Design is drivin by result not the desire of a few. Especially where the bottom line is concerned.

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07-02-2003, 01:10 AM

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Maybe your missing my concept of what Popular opinion is from. Popular Opinion is the masses that consume what ever product or service that instigate action from a "Presentation" static or otherwise.

Design is drivin by result not the desire of a few. Especially where the bottom line is concerned.

No, I'm not missing your concept at all... I understand exactly what you're trying to say... and you're wrong.

The masses do not dictate what is popular. DESIGNERS do. From everything you see on tv, to everything you hear on the radio, to everything you see on the Net, to the billboards on the roads, to the fucking Big Gulp cup in your lap.

DESIGNERS create what is popular. Not the public. The public merely chooses to embrace what touches them. Touch them, and you are gold. Fuck up and you are shit. It rests on you. And only you. You either get the glory or you get the blame. Welcome to production.

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07-02-2003, 01:17 AM

Your so romantic somtimes

Your a great designer Amp, ya really are, I seen ALL of your work (Well maybe most). Your one of the best man.

But.

If you make 2 designs.
Test them both.

The client is always gonna pick the one that makes the most money on the test. Period.
Its OWNED by popular opinion.

I've cried my eyes out trying to be the best.
Its not worth it.

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07-02-2003, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by AlienQ
Your so romantic somtimes

Your a great designer Amp, ya really are, I seen ALL of your work (Well maybe most). Your one of the best man.

But.

If you make 2 designs.
Test them both.

The client is always gonna pick the one that makes the most money on the test. Period.
Its OWNED by popular opinion.

I've cried my eyes out trying to be the best.
Its not worth it.

sure... fine....

you're making a buck and making your client happy. That's great. And that's what is expected. But if you never push the limits, if you never test the boundaries... you may as well be typing TPS reports for Lumberg. You're not shaping, you're not creating, you're not fulfilling your role as a "designer"... you are a monkey.

I will not be a monkey. I will push and push and push and push some more. And I will test the limits of what can be done and beyond. And I will never stop.

And that is the difference between people like you, and people like me. I may not be "better" than you... you may not be "better" than me....

but I have vision, where you only see chains.

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07-02-2003, 01:34 AM

Like Big E. Smalls put it...

"I aint saying I am the greatest, but I'm fucking incredible"

Rage against the machine then.
I Been there done that. It hurts.

Adultwebdesign is like toilet paper. Its nothing more than fast food for the masses to chomp on swallow and choke on. Its in one minute on and then gone with another server reload.

Tell me...

Ya wanna put your soul into that?

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07-02-2003, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by AlienQ
Tell me...

Ya wanna put your soul into that?

took me 8 months to find that answer...

and the answer was yes. And I dove in head first and never looked back. Too many people with your attitude, and a serious lack of the opposition. I chose to take that stand. Now, I may be waaaaay off..... but the way I see it, someone had to. And I'm certainly not alone. There are quite a few designers and firms that put out sheer excellence on a daily basis. Webinc, Sharky, Mike, Supercharged, and a few others I shall leave unnamed for now. You think they aren't putting in 110% on that stuff?

I invite you to start slinging 35% around here... see how far it gets ya.

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07-02-2003, 01:42 AM

anyway... this has gone way off track. This is about a guy that should be stacked until december of '09... and he rightfully should be. If he'd only let it happen.

I know you're watching bro.... I can't stand to see you sit, unengaged.. when you should be.

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07-02-2003, 01:50 AM

Designing is like breathing to me.
I do not care how hard they work or comparing what 35% of my ability is to there 110% or even your 120%.

It's Irrelevant. Based on the logic below.
If ya goto break your skull doing it all ya better quit while your still here and do somthing else.
The shit should be simply natural.

I been designing since I was 19 years old in porn.
I am 34 now. I have built my life on Adult Design.

I wonder if I have waisted my life from time to time and the answer is no. I've had a great time so far.

So who is this brainchild?

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07-02-2003, 01:59 AM

lol... there is nothing "natural" about production. You're slamming a ton of information together in a very concise and directed method aimed at selling someone else on the idea you're projecting. (which you probably aren't the least bit interested in yourself at this point)

Natural? Please. Natural went out the window a long damn time ago. This shit involves keeping up with current trends, atmosphere, what's hot & what's not, reading a shitload of magazines, watching a ton of bad tv, and cruising the web for everything..... taking it all, dumping it into a blender, and hoping you come up with the next batch of bad ass salsa.

Now then.... your so-called "natural" comes into play next... not everyone has the ability to take random ideas and thoughts and influences and combine them into a cohesive idea.... this is where talent comes into the game. If you got it, you got it. If you don't, it won't take long for the world to know it.

But as I guesstimated before, you probably need to take a production class or something... you got the right idea, but you seem to be missing some major elements of thought.

Any fool can learn to operate the tools...... writing a symphony is another story.

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07-02-2003, 02:03 AM

Alien... do you have a portfolio up?
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07-02-2003, 02:13 AM

No portfolio's. No.
Ya can click the alien image and see a couple desktop arts though.

I won't give an inch away for everyone to copy what I do.

I aim for Longevity of my concepts to maximise the money to those I work for. Huge showcases are nice, a brimming client base is beatiful for proven track record's and popularity contests.
Fuck all that. I do not want it.

It would be a diservice for those that trust me.

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07-02-2003, 02:24 AM

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So who is this brainchild?

He'll let me know if and when he's ready to go full on. I not only understand his ambiguity, and the reasons for it, but I envy it..... this guy is like, urban legend type shit. You don't contact him for design work.... he contacts you if he feels you're worthy.

And if you don't know by now who I'm talking about, then you're clearly not in tune with the inner crux of the adult design world.

I'll leave it at that.

And if you do know, you'd be wise to not voice it out of respect for the man.

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07-02-2003, 02:30 AM

I could.
But I won't.

But then...

Inner Crux? Fuck I hate secret societies...
Damn them all!

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07-02-2003, 02:32 AM

anyway.... this thread was not meant to be provacative, and it certainly was not directed at Alien or anyone else.... the man in question is reading this, and I'm trying (lamely) to intimidate him into coming out....

this man is the fucking bomb. The designer to end all designers. And no.... he ain't fucking cheap. You will pay out the ass for this man. You want the best..... he's out there... soaking in his pool because it's too damn hot. (pussy)

gimme the thumb dude....... just one thumb..... and I will whore you like never before. I only promote the best man.

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07-02-2003, 02:39 AM

Well this is an interesting thread, or it has become one and I find that all to rare on there these days.

I have to, to a large degree agree with Amp on this one, putting your heart and soul into your vision can also be your downfall but if you care about innovation and creation then it may well be worth it. That's for each man to decide, some of us take the tools and use them in a way that others already do, some of us take those tools and do things you never knew could be done and in the process create new tools and lines of thought and creation.

I want to put my heart into things, but I've been beaten down when I did many times. So I strive to find an idea and thought that I can enjoy and work that I can enjoy and in the process create original ideas, concepts and themes. It's hard and it takes time.

It's not so hard to build based on what is already popular and being done. It's very hard to be the one to shape and form what will be popular and copied. In doing so you will often suffer many more failures and setbacks but the reward will be so much sweeter in the end.

I have a lot more I would like to say but it's deep in me and not so easy to express, but I wanted to let you know that I felt what you were saying Amp and I understand it, even if you and others don't think I do. Keep it up, without challenges to yourself and your beliefs life is boring and unrewarding.

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07-02-2003, 02:50 AM

Originally posted by Digipimp
Well this is an interesting thread, or it has become one and I find that all to rare on there these days.

I have to, to a large degree agree with Amp on this one, putting your heart and soul into your vision can also be your downfall but if you care about innovation and creation then it may well be worth it. That's for each man to decide, some of us take the tools and use them in a way that others already do, some of us take those tools and do things you never knew could be done and in the process create new tools and lines of thought and creation.

I want to put my heart into things, but I've been beaten down when I did many times. So I strive to find an idea and thought that I can enjoy and work that I can enjoy and in the process create original ideas, concepts and themes. It's hard and it takes time.

It's not so hard to build based on what is already popular and being done. It's very hard to be the one to shape and form what will be popular and copied. In doing so you will often suffer many more failures and setbacks but the reward will be so much sweeter in the end.

I have a lot more I would like to say but it's deep in me and not so easy to express, but I wanted to let you know that I felt what you were saying Amp and I understand it, even if you and others don't think I do. Keep it up, without challenges to yourself and your beliefs life is boring and unrewarding.

I decided my path a long time ago.... it's not a popular one in practice... although many preach it. And it doesn't always win me the approving eye, even with Lensman.... breaking it down, sometimes I bomb. It happens. But I drive on.... I continue to think, and come up with new things.... they don't always work. But sometimes they nail it. And that's when it pays off.... that's when I can lean back and say, "Fuck yeah".....

but I will not be a fucking thoughtless monkey. It's just not in my nature. Part of my job is to think and come up with new stuff.... and I would like to think I'm doing that, because if I'm not, then someone needs to shoot me.

No one seems to have any fucking passion anymore.... doesn't anyone care about their work anymore? Has it all been reduced to fucking dollars? God I hope not... money is nice, but if you don't have some passion, you're not living.... you're existing.

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07-02-2003, 02:57 AM

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I decided my path a long time ago.... it's not a popular one in practice... although many preach it. And it doesn't always win me the approving eye, even with Lensman.... breaking it down, sometimes I bomb. It happens. But I drive on.... I continue to think, and come up with new things.... they don't always work. But sometimes they nail it. And that's when it pays off.... that's when I can lean back and say, "Fuck yeah".....

but I will not be a fucking thoughtless monkey. It's just not in my nature. Part of my job is to think and come up with new stuff.... and I would like to think I'm doing that, because if I'm not, then someone needs to shoot me.

No one seems to have any fucking passion anymore.... doesn't anyone care about their work anymore? Has it all been reduced to fucking dollars? God I hope not... money is nice, but if you don't have some passion, you're not living.... you're existing.

That's the challenge I face every day, I have passion to do things I care about and be creative and innovate, but I don't have passion to make cookie cutter work to serve the masses and as a result I often end up bored and uninterested. It also is not very profitable at times because I can't maintain any interest when I'm not being truly creative and true to myself. I sit and face that everyday, I care about the dollars less than I do the impact of what I can do and the effect it can have on things.

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07-02-2003, 03:04 AM

Originally posted by Digipimp

That's the challenge I face every day, I have passion to do things I care about and be creative and innovate, but I don't have passion to make cookie cutter work to serve the masses and as a result I often end up bored and uninterested. It also is not very profitable at times because I can't maintain any interest when I'm not being truly creative and true to myself. I sit and face that everyday, I care about the dollars less than I do the impact of what I can do and the effect it can have on things.

Welcome to my fucking world bro. I've lived that shit since day 1. But you don't need to bend to the masses or cater to the shitty. Stay fucking true, and be better than everyone else at what you do, take no shit, and beat down anyone that gets in your way. Fight for it is what I'm saying..... tooth and fucking nail.

There's more than enough room for everyone in this biz.... it's what you make of it that will be your legacy. And while I may go down as a nobody board attention whore, no one can ever fucking say I cheated them, and no one can deny me the sites I made. I've always been more than fair and given my all to this stuff. That's the only path worth going down.

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07-02-2003, 03:07 AM

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

Welcome to my fucking world bro. I've lived that shit since day 1. But you don't need to bend to the masses or cater to the shitty. Stay fucking true, and be better than everyone else at what you do, take no shit, and beat down anyone that gets in your way. Fight for it is what I'm saying..... tooth and fucking nail.

There's more than enough room for everyone in this biz.... it's what you make of it that will be your legacy. And while I may go down as a nobody board attention whore, no one can ever fucking say I cheated them, and no one can deny me the sites I made. I've always been more than fair and given my all to this stuff. That's the only path worth going down.

That's the way I've always lived and I think it's the only way I'm capable of. I tried to be a follower for a short time and I ended up not wanting to be a part of the world anymore, I couldnt' do it at all. I'm working on it man, I just am looking for a like minded person who is willing to put some things together and mind meld and create some real shit, collaborations are challenges to me and also rewarding.

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07-02-2003, 03:08 AM

wow... this is like therapy....

this has become my new favorite thread... I'm getting alot of my angst out in here...

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07-02-2003, 03:12 AM

and of course you know, this is not a purely "designer" perspective.... everything you & I've said can be applied to virtually any field... it's not about the specifics of what you actually do... it's about taking pride in your work.

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07-02-2003, 03:15 AM

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
and of course you know, this is not a purely "designer" perspective.... everything you & I've said can be applied to virtually any field... it's not about the specifics of what you actually do... it's about taking pride in your work.

Yeah man, so many people these days can't see the bigger picture because they are blinded by the $$$. Like I always say, not all money is smart money. I feel like I'm dead unless I'm challenged and thinking and trying to create and find new ways to do things. Most people are too fragile to face that doing things this way means more failures, but the more the failures the sweeter the rewards and friends made along the journey while creating. I can hardly find anyone that shares this perspective these days.

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