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  • SomeCreep
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    • Mar 2003
    • 26118

    #151
    150 thumbs down for PIBCash

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    • Tam
      Rude Bitch
      • Jan 2001
      • 8533

      #152
      Originally posted by RainMailer
      Tam
      Whats your opinion on his sidekick K-Rock? Is this Rod or was there really a guy named K-Rock?
      K-rock was NOT Rodney... I had his phone number and I looke dhim up myself..... I am NOT 100% sure of exactly who heis as in nicks and such, but I DO know it wasn't Rodney. He was hired AFTER I was fired....... from what I was TOLD, Rodney hired 4 people to replace me....... if that isn't one hell of a note of my ability and all I did for that company, then I don't know what was.

      LMAO
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      • SleazyDream
        I'm here for SPORT
        • Jul 2001
        • 41470

        #153
        Originally posted by Tam

        .......I was not allowed to talk to Aaron and was told to stay away from him....... he was doing nothing but causing problems he said.
        Well, Rodney was right there......... lol
        This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

        Now read without the word dog.

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        • AaronM
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          • Oct 2001
          • 46923

          #154
          Originally posted by IPK


          stop hiding behind that nick.
          No shit.

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          • Jimbo
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            • Oct 2001
            • 3989

            #155
            Originally posted by SleazyDream


            Well, Rodney was right there......... lol
            no doubt
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            • Tam
              Rude Bitch
              • Jan 2001
              • 8533

              #156
              Originally posted by SleazyDream


              Well, Rodney was right there......... lol
              Yeah but look what happened..... as a result of not being able to hang with Aaron, I got to spend an entire evening with YOU.....
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              • Pornkings
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                • Oct 2002
                • 5334

                #157
                Tam why didn't you come say hi to me at the Jan. show
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                • SleazyDream
                  I'm here for SPORT
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 41470

                  #158
                  Originally posted by Tam


                  Yeah but look what happened..... as a result of not being able to hang with Aaron, I got to spend an entire evening with YOU.....
                  This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                  Now read without the word dog.

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                  • - Jesus Christ -
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                    • Mar 2003
                    • 7197

                    #159

                    Amen

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                    • Tev
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                      • Sep 2002
                      • 94

                      #160
                      Too late for Rodney to do a lot of things now.

                      I wonder if we will even see an attempt at a spin on this from him.
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                      • RainMailer
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                        • Feb 2003
                        • 826

                        #161
                        Aaron I have some interesting info you may want to know about. I am gonna hang here a bit longer if you want to msg me about this.
                        harbinc at gmail dot com

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                        • Tam
                          Rude Bitch
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 8533

                          #162
                          Originally posted by Pornkings
                          Tam why didn't you come say hi to me at the Jan. show
                          I started over there a few times and was pulled away, once literally..... not in a mean way, just pulled away to talk to "someone else"....... I told him I wanted to meet and talk to you and I DID manage to get me a fucking shirt..... LMAO

                          Seriously though, what was said to me was "fuck him, he is a wannabe and he ain't anyone I will ever do business with"..... and "Look at him sitting there, he looks like a fucking pimp, what an asshole". SO I never got to meet you and I was upset about that one.
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                          • integrated
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                            • Apr 2003
                            • 3826

                            #163
                            trial by media

                            he is already guilty in many ppls eyes

                            and if this does indeed turn out to be false accusations it can be considered LIBEL

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                            • Jellybeen
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                              • Feb 2004
                              • 86

                              #164
                              Aaron I'm glad you're finally in a position to say something and go on with other projects.
                              Still, it would have been nice months ago if you had said *anything* positive about everyone's reactions to those screencaps. Your comments at the time in the face of such blatant shaving made YOU look bad, as if you were condoning the act and trying to cover for the shaving that was being done to affiliates sending traffic to ToniFreeland.
                              It really, really made you look untrustworthy and I'm glad you're coming out now to clear things up.

                              to Tam - we knew those screencaps were real all along hon, it was obvious. The ones trying to trash you and trash the screencaps evidently had a vested interest in doing so. Many more of us knew better.
                              You rock!! ;)

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                              • Pornkings
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                                • Oct 2002
                                • 5334

                                #165
                                Originally posted by Tam


                                I started over there a few times and was pulled away, once literally..... not in a mean way, just pulled away to talk to "someone else"....... I told him I wanted to meet and talk to you and I DID manage to get me a fucking shirt..... LMAO

                                Seriously though, what was said to me was "fuck him, he is a wannabe and he ain't anyone I will ever do business with"..... and "Look at him sitting there, he looks like a fucking pimp, what an asshole". SO I never got to meet you and I was upset about that one.
                                Damn he really said that. LMAO

                                at least he got the Pimp part right
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                                • vicki
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                                  • Feb 2002
                                  • 1478

                                  #166
                                  Aaron, GOOD MOVE!
                                  wishing you a smackdown victory

                                  Tam
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                                  • Baxter
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                                    • Apr 2003
                                    • 535

                                    #167
                                    Go Get Them Aaron
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                                    • SleazyDream
                                      I'm here for SPORT
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 41470

                                      #168
                                      Originally posted by Tam


                                      Yeah but look what happened..... as a result of not being able to hang with Aaron, I got to spend an entire evening with YOU.....
                                      actually it's rare i don't end up at the same places as AaronM at conventions......
                                      This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                      Now read without the word dog.

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                                      • SomeCreep
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                                        • Mar 2003
                                        • 26118

                                        #169
                                        Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -

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                                        • Tam
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                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 8533

                                          #170
                                          Originally posted by integrated
                                          trial by media

                                          he is already guilty in many ppls eyes

                                          and if this does indeed turn out to be false accusations it can be considered LIBEL
                                          I believe it isn't libel if it is true and facts, right? EVERYTHING I Have said has been documented as what Aaron has said has been documented......... and all if it is provable and fact.... so I am not sure where libel falls into this.



                                          Pornkings... hell yes he said that... and then when I started to go BACK another time........ *I* was out of your league... well I am sorry but NO ONE is out of my leaque and I am not afraid to approach ANYONE about anything........ think I have more than proven that over the last 5 years..... LMAO
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                                          • Honeyslut
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                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 6436

                                            #171
                                            Originally posted by integrated
                                            trial by media

                                            he is already guilty in many ppls eyes

                                            and if this does indeed turn out to be false accusations it can be considered LIBEL
                                            Since libel is your word of the day for today, what's it going to be for tomorrow !


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                                            • Tam
                                              Rude Bitch
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 8533

                                              #172
                                              Originally posted by SleazyDream


                                              actually it's rare i don't end up at the same places as AaronM at conventions......
                                              Well you weren't THAT night, you was my bitch that night.. LMAO
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                                              • AaronM
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                                                • Oct 2001
                                                • 46923

                                                #173
                                                Originally posted by Jellybeen
                                                Aaron I'm glad you're finally in a position to say something and go on with other projects.
                                                Still, it would have been nice months ago if you had said *anything* positive about everyone's reactions to those screencaps. Your comments at the time in the face of such blatant shaving made YOU look bad, as if you were condoning the act and trying to cover for the shaving that was being done to affiliates sending traffic to ToniFreeland.
                                                It really, really made you look untrustworthy and I'm glad you're coming out now to clear things up.
                                                FYI...More harm can be done off these boards than on it. Off the boards, I was able to speak to those that I trusted. Some of PIBCash's top affiliates knew the full story 3 months before it publicly broke out. To this day they are still sending sales. Not that they have been properly compensated though. It's also fairly amazing how their sales doubled after the shaving scandle even though their traffic remained about the same.

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                                                • quiet
                                                  we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                  • 25115

                                                  #174
                                                  Originally posted by Honeyslut


                                                  Since libel is your word of the day for today, what's it going to be for tomorrow !


                                                  i think that's his word every day ;)
                                                  we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                  • JulianSosa
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                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                    • 3042

                                                    #175
                                                    Im confused how did Tams 5 sites make 50% of $2300 over 5 months?

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                                                    • exitmoney
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                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                      • 143

                                                      #176
                                                      Way to go Aaron, and wish you all the best and luck. Is time to clean the damn biz of all the scams going on .

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                                                      • Honeyslut
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                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                        • 6436

                                                        #177
                                                        Originally posted by quiet


                                                        i think that's his word every day ;)
                                                        I think orgasm would make a nice word of the day !
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                                                        • AaronM
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                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                          • 46923

                                                          #178
                                                          Originally posted by SleazyDream


                                                          actually it's rare i don't end up at the same places as AaronM at conventions......

                                                          We are practicly joined at the hip....Unless Sleazy is too hung over to come out and play. But even then...He is puking in my suitcases and so forth.

                                                          Love ya buddy.

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                                                          • Tam
                                                            Rude Bitch
                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                            • 8533

                                                            #179
                                                            Originally posted by JulianSosa
                                                            Im confused how did Tams 5 sites make 50% of $2300 over 5 months?
                                                            THAT is what was owed to me at the time I was fired. He had paid me some of it, but when I was fired, I wanted the rest of my money........ my sites made A LOT more than that. LOL

                                                            The deal was, I had them with him and we shared the profits from them 50/50 AFTER webmasters were paid.... and after the webmasters were paid, MY share was over $4k....... what was left owed to me when I left was $2300..... which I FINALLY got.

                                                            I was offered a buyout on my sites and I refused the amount I was offered, so when I left, I took them with me. I paid for them...... design, content, hosting and all, and I took them with me and started my new program with them........ THANK GOD I never put them on his server.... I kept them on mine.
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                                                            • Tam
                                                              Rude Bitch
                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 8533

                                                              #180
                                                              Originally posted by Jellybeen
                                                              Aaron I'm glad you're finally in a position to say something and go on with other projects.
                                                              Still, it would have been nice months ago if you had said *anything* positive about everyone's reactions to those screencaps. Your comments at the time in the face of such blatant shaving made YOU look bad, as if you were condoning the act and trying to cover for the shaving that was being done to affiliates sending traffic to ToniFreeland.
                                                              It really, really made you look untrustworthy and I'm glad you're coming out now to clear things up.

                                                              to Tam - we knew those screencaps were real all along hon, it was obvious. The ones trying to trash you and trash the screencaps evidently had a vested interest in doing so. Many more of us knew better.
                                                              You rock!! ;)
                                                              Thanks babe...... your support means a lot to me.

                                                              And please don't think ill of Aaron...... he had a LOT more at stake than I ever had...... LUCKILY I was able to walk with my sites or I would have been in the same position he was in....... legal messes don't get fixed overnight. BUT I can assure you, the INSTANT he knew what was going on, he did take care of it.... he at NO point was ever misleading to anyone....... and I can honestly say this. NO ONE had access to what I had access to, and once I found out, that's when I became the company troublemaker..... imagine that. LMAO
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                                                              • AaronM
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                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                • 46923

                                                                #181
                                                                Originally posted by Tam
                                                                I was offered a buyout on my sites and I refused the amount I was offered
                                                                Funny...I too was offered an insulting buy out figure.

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                                                                • Jellybeen
                                                                  Registered User
                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                  • 86

                                                                  #182
                                                                  Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                  To this day they are still sending sales. Not that they have been properly compensated though. It's also fairly amazing how their sales doubled after the shaving scandle even though their traffic remained about the same.
                                                                  Talk about taking a risk. Crazy.

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                                                                  • Tam
                                                                    Rude Bitch
                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                    • 8533

                                                                    #183
                                                                    Originally posted by AaronM


                                                                    Funny...I too was offered an insulting buy out figure.
                                                                    Yeah I bet, I know what was offered for mine and THAT was insulting enough.... my god, I can only imagine how bad yours was. LOL
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                                                                    • AaronM
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                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                      • 46923

                                                                      #184
                                                                      Originally posted by Tam


                                                                      Yeah I bet, I know what was offered for mine and THAT was insulting enough.... my god, I can only imagine how bad yours was. LOL
                                                                      6 grand

                                                                      Do you have any clue what this content is worth?

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                                                                      • JulianSosa
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                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                        • 3042

                                                                        #185
                                                                        Good luck to all involved.

                                                                        Im still confused about all the low numbers.

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                                                                        • AaronM
                                                                          GFY Royality ;)
                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                          • 46923

                                                                          #186
                                                                          Originally posted by JulianSosa
                                                                          Good luck to all involved.

                                                                          Im still confused about all the low numbers.
                                                                          Well then....There's nothing like keeping a good drama thread on top by asking and answering questions.

                                                                          Care to be more specific?

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                                                                          • Raven
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                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                            • 6874

                                                                            #187
                                                                            There are two people here, Aaron, who have your back. Always.

                                                                            Rodney. If you're smart, you'll do right by Aaron.

                                                                            In all my years on the Internet, Rodney, I am known for not breaking confidences or speaking about a client's program.

                                                                            In your case, I am willing to make an exception.

                                                                            You have done Aaron wrong. Make it right.
                                                                            Raven

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                                                                            • integrated
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                              • 3826

                                                                              #188
                                                                              Originally posted by Raven
                                                                              There are two people here, Aaron, who have your back. Always.

                                                                              Rodney. If you're smart, you'll do right by Aaron.

                                                                              In all my years on the Internet, Rodney, I am known for not breaking confidences or speaking about a client's program.

                                                                              In your case, I am willing to make an exception.

                                                                              You have done Aaron wrong. Make it right.
                                                                              that was deep

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                                                                              • Tam
                                                                                Rude Bitch
                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                • 8533

                                                                                #189
                                                                                Originally posted by AaronM


                                                                                6 grand

                                                                                Do you have any clue what this content is worth?
                                                                                GOOD GOD, that's even worse than the $300 each I was offered for mine..... LORD!!

                                                                                He DID manage to buy one of his "partners" out and I TRIED to tell that one what had happened, but that one refused to believe me even AFTER I faxed him copies of what I had...... it was told to him that I made it up..... YEAH.... umm right. THIS person continued to trash me and my husband at every turn for awhile, but haven't heard from that one...... maybe they finally woke up?
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                                                                                • makefuckingmoney
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                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                  • 3277

                                                                                  #190
                                                                                  Well after sifting thru some of this....

                                                                                  If you were him, and his reputation, and DEAD program. Would you pay out still?

                                                                                  I mean look at perfection girls..he backpeddled like mad and now the sites are "sold" to someone else.

                                                                                  I wouldnt expect checks from someone that is dead in the water..

                                                                                  He will be back in about 2 months.. as someone else..

                                                                                  And for anyone still promoting his program, after the numerous screen shots etc of shaving...WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU??

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                                                                                  • AaronM
                                                                                    GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                                    • 46923

                                                                                    #191
                                                                                    Originally posted by integrated


                                                                                    that was deep
                                                                                    Considering who it is comming from...Yes, it was.

                                                                                    Thanks for your kind words Raven.

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                                                                                    • JulianSosa
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                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                      • 3042

                                                                                      #192
                                                                                      Originally posted by AaronM


                                                                                      Well then....There's nothing like keeping a good drama thread on top by asking and answering questions.

                                                                                      Care to be more specific?
                                                                                      Tams $4000 for 5 sites over 5 months at her 50% afer affiliates.

                                                                                      I mean Im all for lots of little sites making a few bucks a day but this seems real low.

                                                                                      Edit I mean no disrespect to Tam in this statement.
                                                                                      Last edited by JulianSosa; 03-02-2004, 10:54 PM.

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                                                                                      • AaronM
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                                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                                        • 46923

                                                                                        #193
                                                                                        I am gonna go watch a movie now. I will be back to bump this thread later.


                                                                                        OH and hello Rodney. I know you too fucking well. You are sitting there reading this...Blaming me and cussing me out. Do yourself a favor for once. Accept the blame yourself. You brought this on and it is far from over.

                                                                                        Remember when you told time what an idiot you thought I was?

                                                                                        Remember that when you are having difficulty sleeping tonight.

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                                                                                        • JulianSosa
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                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                          • 3042

                                                                                          #194
                                                                                          Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                          I am gonna go watch a movie now. I will be back to bump this thread later.


                                                                                          OH and hello Rodney. I know you too fucking well. You are sitting there reading this...Blaming me and cussing me out. Do yourself a favor for once. Accept the blame yourself. You brought this on and it is far from over.

                                                                                          Remember when you told time what an idiot you thought I was?

                                                                                          Remember that when you are having difficulty sleeping tonight.
                                                                                          What movie?

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                                                                                          • VeriSexy
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                                                                                            #195
                                                                                            Good luck

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                                                                                            • toddler
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                                                                                              • Jun 2002
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                                                                                              #196
                                                                                              Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                              I am gonna go watch a movie now. I will be back to bump this thread later.


                                                                                              OH and hello Rodney. I know you too fucking well. You are sitting there reading this...Blaming me and cussing me out. Do yourself a favor for once. Accept the blame yourself. You brought this on and it is far from over.

                                                                                              Remember when you told time what an idiot you thought I was?

                                                                                              Remember that when you are having difficulty sleeping tonight.

                                                                                              Good style.
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                                                                                              • AaronM
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                                                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                                                • 46923

                                                                                                #197
                                                                                                Originally posted by JulianSosa


                                                                                                Tams $4000 for 5 sites over 5 months at her 50% afer affiliates.

                                                                                                I mean Im all for lots of little sites making a few bucks a day but this seems real low.

                                                                                                Edit I mean no disrespect to Tam in this statement.
                                                                                                It is really low. No offense meant to Tam but the majority of the sites under PIBCash did not make shit becaue Rodney would not market them correctly.

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                                                                                                • psyko514
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                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                  • 22366

                                                                                                  #198
                                                                                                  Originally posted by JulianSosa


                                                                                                  Tams $4000 for 5 sites over 5 months at her 50% afer affiliates.

                                                                                                  I mean Im all for lots of little sites making a few bucks a day but this seems real low.

                                                                                                  Edit I mean no disrespect to Tam in this statement.
                                                                                                  Say the membership to the sites was $20. 60% to affiliates, ~12% to the processor. Leaves 28% split between both of them. $2.80 per sale. That's over 1400 sales. About 285 per site. PIB Cash wasn't a huge program AFAIK.

                                                                                                  If you look at the <a href=http://www.hotchickpost.com/fullscreenie.jpg>stats screenshot</a>, you'll see the top affiliate only made 333 sales in a 3 month period.

                                                                                                  My numbers are probably way off, but you can do the math.

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                                                                                                  • psyko514
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                                                                                                    #199
                                                                                                    Funny stuff.


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                                                                                                    • nojob
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                                                                                                      • Feb 2004
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                                                                                                      #200
                                                                                                      your right there is alot of dram on this board.

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