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  • Mr.Fiction
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    • Feb 2002
    • 9484

    #1

    Video shows woman being killed in Toughman fight

    Videotape shows deadly Toughman bout

    June 25, 2003 | ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (AP) -- A woman who died after a Toughman amateur boxing match was hit repeatedly in the head even after she walked on wobbly legs to her corner, a videotape of the match reportedly shows.

    The tape shows Stacy Young, a mother of two, taking several blows to the head and being unable to defend herself before she collapsed June 14, the St. Petersburg Times reported Wednesday. The tape, reviewed by a Times reporter, includes shouts from the crowd for the fight to stop, the paper said.

    Young, 30, was declared brain dead two days after the match, which her family said she entered on a whim. Police are investigating.

    The Times reported the tape shows that as Young headed to the safety of her corner, her opponent, 20-year-old Sarah Kobie, followed and threw three punches to Young's head.

    Young collapsed and suffered a seizure while her family -- including her young daughters -- watched.

    http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2003/...man/index.html

    Anyone see the video? Sounds bad.
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  • xxxdesign-net
    My hips don't lie
    • Nov 2002
    • 10129

    #2
    didnt see the video, but the ref should be arrested for incompetence! This is your job to know when to stop a fight

    and for the other women, punching a nearly dead person wobbling to her corner?? I would put her in a ring with crazy MIke Tyson as a sentence!

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    • Matt 26z
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      • Apr 2002
      • 18481

      #3
      Excuse me? But walking to your corner doesn't mean a damn thing. The fight is still on until someone hits the ground, in the case of the UFC taps out, or until the ref stops the fight.

      Even after someone can't take anymore, more hits are always given. It takes some time for the ref to realize what's going on.

      This woman obviously shouldn't have been in the fight if 3 blows killed her.

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        • funkmaster
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          • Sep 2001
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          #5
          ... damn, I read tukhman in the title ... doh !

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          • eroswebmaster
            March 1st, 2003
            • Jul 2001
            • 20295

            #6
            Originally posted by Matt 26z
            Excuse me? But walking to your corner doesn't mean a damn thing. The fight is still on until someone hits the ground, in the case of the UFC taps out, or until the ref stops the fight.

            Even after someone can't take anymore, more hits are always given. It takes some time for the ref to realize what's going on.

            This woman obviously shouldn't have been in the fight if 3 blows killed her.
            Don't know about that.

            In a boxing match you turn your back on the fight that's usually considered a forfeiture.

            It is the Ref's job in ALL matches to determine if the fighter has the ability to make a conscious decision in the match due to the fact that the fighter may have suffered enough mental damage that night that whatever action they take may not be in their best interest.

            If a ref saw a fighter trying to make their way to their corner they should have gotten between the fighters to see what the issue might be, even bring in the ring doctor to make a final determination.

            And as far as your comment about not being in the fight if 3 blows would kill her, that's just plain stupid.

            1 blow could kill anyone, including heavy weight boxers. There's always that 1 "lucky" blow, depends upon timing, location all kinds of factors involved that could just end your life immediately.

            I think movies have skewed our realm of what is and isn't possible.

            You have guys like Mel Gibson in the Lethal Weapons movies being riddled with bullets and laughing about it in the end while on a stretcher only to show up in the sequel, while people die of single gunshot wounds from a .22 in the leg...it just happened to be too close to the artery.
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            • xxxdesign-net
              My hips don't lie
              • Nov 2002
              • 10129

              #7
              Originally posted by Matt 26z
              Excuse me? But walking to your corner doesn't mean a damn thing. The fight is still on until someone hits the ground, in the case of the UFC taps out, or until the ref stops the fight.

              Even after someone can't take anymore, more hits are always given. It takes some time for the ref to realize what's going on.

              This woman obviously shouldn't have been in the fight if 3 blows killed her.

              hehe, do you know how many many punches you need to get by ( A WOMAN WITH GLOVES) before dying?! That women didnt recived only 3 punches! She probably received a ton of hits before receiving the 3 last ones! THe ref should have stopped the fight... and the other boxer should have waited for the ref to stop the fight when she saw the other boxer wobbling to her corner... Since the victory was certain anyway! ANd even if the ref is to dumb to then stop the fight, finish your adversary with body shots!

              Boxing is not a dangerous sport.... if you and the ref know when to stop
              Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 06-25-2003, 01:29 PM.

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              • Danny_C
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                • Feb 2002
                • 2160

                #8
                Damn, that's depressing... wouldn't be so bad if it didn't point out that the kids were watching.

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                • sherie
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                  • Feb 2002
                  • 7020

                  #9
                  Originally posted by xxxdesign-net



                  hehe, do you know how many many punches you need to get by ( A WOMAN WITH GLOVES) before dying?! That women didnt recived only 3 punches! She probably received a ton of hits before receiving the 3 last ones! THe ref should have stopped the fight... and the other boxer should have waited for the ref to stop the fight when she saw the other boxer wobbling to her corner... Since the victory was certain anyway! ANd even if the ref is to dumb to then stop the fight, finish your adversary with body shots!

                  Boxing is not a dangerous sport.... if you and the ref know when to stop
                  It wasn't boxing. I don't believe that they wear "boxing gloves" in the UFC.
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                  • eroswebmaster
                    March 1st, 2003
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 20295

                    #10
                    Originally posted by sherie
                    It wasn't boxing. I don't believe that they wear "boxing gloves" in the UFC.
                    Thread stated it was a "toughman" bout. Toughman bouts usually consist of a boxing style fight.

                    They do wear gloves, the thing is you have to make your way through a system of fighters. Basically the one who lasts through all the matches to the end is the toughman.

                    UFC is a completely different matter. I've seen them stop UFC matches plenty of times because the other fighter looked like they couldn't or wouldn't respond.
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                    • LeeNoga
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                      • Jul 2001
                      • 3043

                      #11
                      This woman knew what she was getting into. She had NO business in that ring.

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                      • Why
                        MFBA
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 7230

                        #12
                        Its fucking toughman, thats NOT UFC, check it out its on FOX, if you get that channel or not. they are basically just boxing matches between anyone who wants to sign up.

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                        • traffictrader
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                          • Sep 2002
                          • 1331

                          #13
                          I completely agree with eroswebmaster, I don't think most people realize how fragile we really are, and how easy it is to die, esp. when people are punching you.

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                          • eroswebmaster
                            March 1st, 2003
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 20295

                            #14
                            Interesting editorial on deaths in toughman matches vs deaths in regular boxing matches.

                            http://www.womenkickboxing.com/boxing_deaths.htm
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