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Experiences with Globill

06-22-2003, 11:56 PM

Could a few people give me some feedback on their experiences with Globill please? I'm considering using them for a new program and wondering how they're perceived by webmasters.

Would anyone be detered from sending traffic to a program using Globill as its primary processor?

Is their service good?

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06-23-2003, 12:20 AM

everything looks good, but i'm a bit worried about them. what happens when visa bitch slaps them?
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06-23-2003, 12:47 AM

We have used em for over 2.5 years, without any problem.
kick ass customer support, good features, etc (and good affiliate software) We are like many contiunually looking at the situation regarding VISA etc.

Dont go solo, get back up processors in place just in case.
and if you aint done so yet, get full US incorporation.
State side I think it only comes down to 2 billers now, CCbill & Epoch. CCbill were trying to fix up, but damnation have some issues needin to be fixed before we start.

Globill=good though.
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06-23-2003, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
everything looks good, but i'm a bit worried about them. what happens when visa bitch slaps them?

they get punked..
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06-23-2003, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by ronin

they get punked..

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06-23-2003, 12:54 AM

I use them. I think they are great, plus not sure what you meen about the Visa thing as they turned out to be right on the visa issue and all the other processors have now followed suit and do exactly the same as globill

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06-23-2003, 01:08 AM

They a[[roved one of my sites - I had it all setup rweadyu to go
submitted another site - exactly the same format and they wouldnt approve it .. then i told em it was the same as the first - so they closed my whoel account.

and all this AFTER i recieved email form them sayifgn yes, they WOULD accept my sites.

they can kiss my ass.

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06-23-2003, 01:11 AM

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06-23-2003, 01:16 AM

Well, we used globill as our primairy cc processor, but since we started xxxtremedollars we switched to ccbill, because it has better reselling options.
And that's not the only reason. CC bill let you see what signups are declined, this you cannot see at globill. Also these globill scripts are very insecure. I don't know of the new version 5, but we used 3 and 4 and both are hacked. We don't use them anymore since the last hack. All passwords where stolen. And yes we renamed globill.cgi to a random name. I just don't trust it anymore.

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06-23-2003, 01:19 AM

i posted this some time ago.....i use globill as a backup right now, but wouldnt recommend them for a few reasons:

there is no real detail on their payouts. i once emailed them about it and asked for a breakdown and what they gave me didnt make sense....so i told them what i saw and how it appeared to me and got nothing but an attitude. one of the reps even told me they never had someone ask them to break it down to the penny......since it's my money, i wanna know exactly how much of it is going elsewhere. seemed pretty simple to me....

the globill admin allows for random passwords, but not for random usernames.

i only ever had 2 rebills with globill....yet i still have rebilling customers from when i 1st started my site with ccbill. if i cant get rebills, i'm losing out on alot of money.

i had too many surfers emailing me asking me why they always were rejected for a credit card signup on my site when they were able to go to another adult site and signup without problems. i always told them to try the phone signup instead.....but i get less money in my pocket from a phone signup, so i didnt like that. and if i had surfers emailing me because they were trying to signup and were getting rejected, how many surfers were getting rejected and just leaving my site???

their affiliate program is very limited in its options.

their payouts were never consistent. i still got my check, just could never count on it showing up on a specific day every week. ccbill is on time like clockwork....except for holidays, but they let you know about that ahead of time.

making my affiliates wait 30 days for their money was something i wasnt too happy about. i didnt like waiting 30 days myself, but i dont think my affiliates should have to wait. it's not like if there is a chargeback from an affiliate signup that i can do anything about it anyway.....no option in the affiliate program to share chargebacks.....just go ahead and give my affiliate their money.
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06-23-2003, 01:47 AM

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06-23-2003, 03:38 AM

Good experiences with Globill here ... though they seem to scrub hard.

Never missed a payment and their support is really good.

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06-23-2003, 03:58 AM

After trying virtually all the major processors, I settled on Globill as my primary. Well recommended.

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06-23-2003, 05:21 AM

Been with them almost a year.

The Good:

99.9% uptime, very responsive support, semi-reasonable scrub (I don't get too many emails about it, so I figure its not that bad). Unbelievably fast activation and no contract anymore - you can be live in 2 hours.

Very secure Globill script, no backdoors or hacks there. Forced random passwords.

No Visa fee. Don't like them? Just leave your rebills there and try someone else - nothing lost.

The Bad:

They seem to fuck up with checks a lot. On several occasions they have recorded customers a "check bounced", and when the customer sends me an angry email they say "oops".

Forget about the overseas dialer. When the customer tries to run it he gets a message that its going to cost like $20 a minute or something (not true), and a potential money-maker is killed off. They are really idiots about this.

The Ugly:

They keep fuckups a secret. They won't post them on their discussion board, and act like the gestapo rather than admitting the error until everyone already knows about it. I hate that shit.

You really can't figure out their check. Am I getting paid for a site or two I promote? I dunno.

No way of knowing how many rejects (scrubs) I turn away.

Overall I still give them a 9.
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06-23-2003, 05:22 AM

Originally posted by =^..^=
They a[[roved one of my sites - I had it all setup rweadyu to go
submitted another site - exactly the same format and they wouldnt approve it .. then i told em it was the same as the first - so they closed my whoel account.

and all this AFTER i recieved email form them sayifgn yes, they WOULD accept my sites.

they can kiss my ass.

Maybe it's because you type like a tard and they couldn't understand what you were saying?
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06-23-2003, 05:25 AM

ive been awake for 2 days straight.

and I initially spoke to them on the phone.

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06-23-2003, 05:26 AM

Globill is good for a back up processor. You should really use ccbill, epoch or one of the other big processors that follow visa regulations as your main processor.
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06-23-2003, 08:23 AM

Thanks for the feedback everyone - Appreciated.

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06-23-2003, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by cutetwink
Globill is good for a back up processor. You should really use ccbill, epoch or one of the other big processors that follow visa regulations as your main processor.

I dont understand according to the way I understand the rules to be if you are a USA company and have a non us visa processor backup or otherwise you run the risk of losing your US Visa processing. Meaning you will get black listed. Now was that true or was that three processors who were collecting the $750 saying it to get people not to jump ship? One of the things I hate is all this second hand info, its not like I can go to the Visa site and look up the rules.
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06-23-2003, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by SGS
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Then what the hell are you doing there?
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06-23-2003, 08:44 AM

Glibill totally sucks for rebills

They send an email to the subscriber before each rebill, and even show him a rebill message when he logs on 3-4 days before the rebill.

Will also close your account for no good reason (just like paypal)

go with epoch/ccbill/jettis

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06-23-2003, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by sirrobin
Glibill totally sucks for rebills

They send an email to the subscriber before each rebill, and even show him a rebill message when he logs on 3-4 days before the rebill.

Will also close your account for no good reason (just like paypal)

go with epoch/ccbill/jettis

This is true as well, As you will notice many of the people who use globill are either Canadian or foreign countries... We dont really have that many options.
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06-23-2003, 08:59 AM

why not try Global Charge as a back up processor

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06-23-2003, 09:15 AM

In my book:

1. WSB
2. Globill

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06-23-2003, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by tony404

I dont understand according to the way I understand the rules to be if you are a USA company and have a non us visa processor backup or otherwise you run the risk of losing your US Visa processing. Meaning you will get black listed. Now was that true or was that three processors who were collecting the $750 saying it to get people not to jump ship? One of the things I hate is all this second hand info, its not like I can go to the Visa site and look up the rules.

I agree.. I've heard conflicting information on whether you can use a non-IPSP with a registered IPSP. It would seem like you would risk your registered IPSP account by using a processor like Glo-Bill/Probilling/2000Charge. At the very least you could lose your rebills when the day comes those companies are forced into IPSP status and the Visa territory they're based in doesn't match your primary IPSP.

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06-23-2003, 09:49 AM

I have excellent rejoins and rebills with globill

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06-23-2003, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by Honeyslut
I have excellent rejoins and rebills with globill

Me too. I think if your site totally sucks and is a piece of shit, don't use Globill. The monthly reminder emails after they are billed will remind your customer that they forgot to cancel.

Me, I like the monthly reminder. Hell, they can send it hourly if they want. My business model is based on people wanting to rebill, not forgetting to.
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06-23-2003, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by Pipecrew

Then what the hell are you doing there?

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06-23-2003, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by strainer
Been with them almost a year.

The Good:

Very secure Globill script, no backdoors or hacks there. Forced random passwords.

Secure ???

See this:

http://www.globill-systems.com/cgi-b...ForumID2&omm=0
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06-23-2003, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by zeebee

Secure ???

See this:

http://www.globill-systems.com/cgi-b...ForumID2&omm=0

That has nothing to do with Globill, some guy got hacked, yep.

I can tell you for sure because I have modified my Globill script extensively that its as secure as any. You need to use the system password, and you need to know the name of the CGI itself. If you have these two pieces of info you are in, otherwise you aren't, period.
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06-23-2003, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by Pipecrew

Then what the hell are you doing there?

Just re-reading the thread here and didn?t realise my faux pas? I appreciate Canadian Webmaster problems and hope you guys get something sorted out soon.

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06-23-2003, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by strainer

That has nothing to do with Globill, some guy got hacked, yep.

I can tell you for sure because I have modified my Globill script extensively that its as secure as any. You need to use the system password, and you need to know the name of the CGI itself. If you have these two pieces of info you are in, otherwise you aren't, period.

And that's the problem. I don't know what version of the script you have, but all scripts before version 5 are very insecure, even with the system password and the renaming of the script.

It's not only one guy that got hacked, it happend to a lot of guys using globill, just have a look at the board.

Anyways, I don't use em anymore. Everone can do what he likes, and use what he likes, but I don't use it anymore.

BTW After you have seen system5 of ccbill, you'll laugh at the interface that globill has.
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06-23-2003, 12:21 PM

I'll take your word on previous versions, as I have only seen 5 which has been out for a year or more I think.

But no argument on their customer interface - its a real hack job, no doubt but (mostly) gets the job down.

I've been wanting to go with a backup processor, and might get CCBill and use Globill as backup or vide versa - just have to get around to coding some magic scripts so that affiliates get the credit still.
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06-27-2003, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by sirrobin
Glibill totally sucks for rebills

They send an email to the subscriber before each rebill, and even show him a rebill message when he logs on 3-4 days before the rebill.

Will also close your account for no good reason (just like paypal)

go with epoch/ccbill/jettis

Where did you get your information. Glo-Bill doesn't send out any prior notices to any of their members notifying them that they are about to get rebilled. They send out confirmations afterwards s proof to prevent chargebacks when the member says they didn't know.

The rebill message you are referring to is for memberships that are about to expire and didn't choose to be rebilled. This is and added feture to retain their membership longer. It also allows webmasters to rebill past a period of 30-31 days. Webmasters will enter odd amounts of time such as 29.95 for 200 days and want to rebill after that. However most members won't remember and will try to chargeback when they see the new charge. Instead if the Login box is used they are prompted a few days before the membership is about to expire asking if they would like another term. Great feature to allow yearly memberships.
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06-27-2003, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by zeebee

And that's the problem. I don't know what version of the script you have, but all scripts before version 5 are very insecure, even with the system password and the renaming of the script.

It's not only one guy that got hacked, it happend to a lot of guys using globill, just have a look at the board.

Anyways, I don't use em anymore. Everone can do what he likes, and use what he likes, but I don't use it anymore.

BTW After you have seen system5 of ccbill, you'll laugh at the interface that globill has.

Glo-Bill released it's newest version 5.1 withing the last month or so. It includes all the latest capabilities as well as key encryption.
It also allows for futher functionality such as posting to multiple password files on the same server if you have multiple site access.

In regards to passwords being hacked. Every billing company in the world has this issue. If you don't believe me I have a link that has over 3500 hacked user names and passwords all on 1 single page. These user names and passwords are from every billing company I have seen posted here about.

There is a Elite hacking site out there that POSTS challenges to hackers to hack the files of the processors and then post the results.

Glo-Bill proactively found these sites and and reissued all new user names and passwords to these membes and fixed the password protection problems on these servers caused by these types of sites.

They also offer the use of their Glo-Bill login box which stores the user names and passwords on their servers and not yours so that you don't have a password file or cgi file to get hackedon your server. Other processors don't offer that.
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06-27-2003, 11:44 PM

DO NOT USE THE GLOBILL LOGIN BOX EVER!

All it does is put referrer based security in your htaccess file and lets anyone who can spoof the globill confirmation page.

This is very easy to do and there are many free tools to do this today.....*spoof etc.

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Ps. Globill are a very good company but their stats suck.
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06-28-2003, 01:00 AM

Originally posted by Madball
In my book:

1. WSB
2. Globill

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06-28-2003, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by Madball
In my book:

1. WSB
2. Globill

You really *don't* keep up with your stats and logins to your processors, do you?
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