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  • DarkJedi
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    • Feb 2001
    • 28301

    #1

    Whats the average rebill % ??

    Only 10% of signups rebill at this one site.
    I think its low, but the program owner tells me it actually is OK.

  • JayJay
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2002
    • 3739

    #2
    LOL work it out if 10% was OK how could Sponsors afford to pay you $20 to $60 a signup?

    10% is bad real bad

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    • DarkJedi
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      • Feb 2001
      • 28301

      #3
      :/

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      • FlyingIguana
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        • Mar 2002
        • 10870

        #4
        Originally posted by DarkJedi
        Only 10% of signups rebill at this one site.
        I think its low, but the program owner tells me it actually is OK.

        10%? i would drop the program in a second.

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        • KRL
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          • Oct 2002
          • 31429

          #5
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          • Dveron
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            • Dec 2002
            • 2794

            #6
            Originally posted by FlyingIguana


            10%? i would drop the program in a second.
            I'm with ya there. The members area must be really sucky or you're getting fucked.
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            • chowda
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              • Jun 2003
              • 9527

              #7
              yaeh, when i ask this question i get NEWBIE..

              retention rate for my site is 20% meaning 1 out of 5 will rebill.. i see that dropping coz my site is shit.
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              • amph
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                • Mar 2003
                • 1245

                #8
                50-70% for me
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                • geps
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                  • Feb 2003
                  • 196

                  #9
                  50% and up should be good... below /quit
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                  • Adulter
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                    • Feb 2003
                    • 1252

                    #10
                    I think it depends on the niche your paysite in.

                    30% for mainstream (from trial to monthly) is ok.
                    50% after in monthly rebills.

                    Niche sites should have better rebilling ratio.

                    Just my .02

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                    • dchottie
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 894

                      #11
                      average for my program is 65%. Some slightly higher some slightly lower.

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                      • Troels
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                        • May 2002
                        • 1035

                        #12
                        Anyone claiming 50% + retention on their adult site AND offer short trials are full of shit.
                        These guys steal your signups: Read here.
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                        • Wizzo
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                          #13
                          50% is good, 30 to 40% is about average....
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                          • strainer
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                            • Oct 2002
                            • 418

                            #14
                            Everyone is a total fucking liar about retention percent, and quotes absurd numbers.

                            Sophisticated surfers today don't like a monthly bill, they go to a site, download 30 gig, then pull the plug and move on. They'd have to be a moron not to. Why pay $240 a year for a site when I can visit once every 4 or 5 months and download the whole thing for $24.99?

                            I retain at 101% though on my sites.

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                            • easyfun
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                              • Apr 2003
                              • 731

                              #15
                              I get around 65 - 70% retention -
                              But - I don't give any trials at all -

                              Since I stopped doing trials I have noticed two things:

                              1) Overall, my sales have increased a whole load - I get 20% (Numbers, not cash volume) more sign ups for recurring memberships.

                              and 2) Whereas previously I had no non recurring option, now I have and I get a load of sales through that door -
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                              • ZoiNk
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                                • Feb 2002
                                • 2370

                                #16
                                The trial to full membership is quite low for me, normially 20-30% on sponsors I look at. I have one sponsor that is around 10%, but of the 10% that rebill, they stay 6-8 months, so I still push them. Look in the members areas, and see if it is anything special, or if it is some broken plugins and overcompressed pics.
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                                • chaffer
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                                  • Sep 2002
                                  • 389

                                  #17
                                  I think 10% is a little low
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                                  • amph
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                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 1245

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by strainer
                                    Everyone is a total fucking liar about retention percent, and quotes absurd numbers.
                                    I r liar, you r liar, we r liar

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                                    • clubsexy
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                                      • Jan 2003
                                      • 1630

                                      #19
                                      I have promoted a few sponsors the didn't ever seem to rebill ever.

                                      I had 1 that I sent about 8,000 uniques to, got 1 trial for 1.95 and when it rebilled, I got a credit for 12.50 and a credit for 1.95

                                      Net for my traffic zero... goose egg... waste of time.

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                                      • nocostporn
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                                        • Mar 2002
                                        • 5228

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by strainer
                                        Everyone is a total fucking liar about retention percent, and quotes absurd numbers.

                                        Sophisticated surfers today don't like a monthly bill, they go to a site, download 30 gig, then pull the plug and move on. They'd have to be a moron not to. Why pay $240 a year for a site when I can visit once every 4 or 5 months and download the whole thing for $24.99?

                                        I retain at 101% though on my sites.

                                        uh 75%(give or take a few) of the US is still on dialup,not every surfer can just download a members area just like that
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                                        • stocktrader23
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                                          • Jan 2003
                                          • 18781

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by nocostporn



                                          uh 75%(give or take a few) of the US is still on dialup,not every surfer can just download a members area just like that
                                          He's an idiot anyway. Why answer?


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                                          • nocostporn
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                                            • Mar 2002
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by stocktrader23


                                            He's an idiot anyway. Why answer?

                                            dunno dude,needed some filler posts today
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                                            • ztik
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                                              • Aug 2001
                                              • 5196

                                              #23
                                              Mines right around 40%
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                                              • JDog
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                                                • Feb 2003
                                                • 7453

                                                #24
                                                i gotta say average would be around 65-75%. And good would be about 80-85%. But 10% is fucking BAD.

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                                                • Niki
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                                                  • Jan 2001
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by JDog
                                                  i gotta say average would be around 65-75%. And good would be about 80-85%. But 10% is fucking BAD.

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                                                  • strainer
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                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 418

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by nocostporn



                                                    uh 75%(give or take a few) of the US is still on dialup,not every surfer can just download a members area just like that
                                                    The ratio is unimportant, what matters is - that surfers with cable modems disproportionately sign up for pay sites, especially movie sites.

                                                    My average member downloads a gig or two a month, so its not coming from a dialup.

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                                                    • strainer
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                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 418

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by stocktrader23


                                                      He's an idiot anyway. Why answer?
                                                      Clueless fuckwit. How many monkeys hammered on your typewriter to come up with that masterpiece?

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                                                      • Pipecrew
                                                        Master of Gfy.com
                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                        • 14888

                                                        #28
                                                        Anyone saying 60%+ is full of shit, surfers these days are fucking trained, they get burned at soo many sites, they love Trial Memberships, they signup and before they even download a single thing, they are cancelling.... Doesnt help that processors send emails with the Cancel Links in them first thing.

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                                                        • scorpion3600
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                          • 623

                                                          #29
                                                          about 33% on average, deluxepass has awesome retention of about 50%

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                                                          • Pipecrew
                                                            Master of Gfy.com
                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                            • 14888

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by scorpion3600
                                                            about 33% on average, deluxepass has awesome retention of about 50%
                                                            Dp also has about 2000 + gigs of good movies

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                                                            • necoeds
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                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                              • 2453

                                                              #31
                                                              Mine is 74.6% of su's rebill at least once
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                                                              • amph
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                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                • 1245

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Pipecrew
                                                                Anyone saying 60%+ is full of shit
                                                                envy?
                                                                i know someone who has over 90% rebill rate and a big member base. Its all about how you treat the members, the content, and how often u update. you are full of shit
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                                                                • IntenseCash
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                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                  • 2421

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by amph
                                                                  50-70% for me
                                                                  Same here
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                                                                  • kevinl
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                                                                    • Apr 2002
                                                                    • 261

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I remember when bangbus came out. I did a trial join and downloaded all the movies on my dsl connection. then about every six months i sign up for a trial and download all the new ones. How many other people do you think do this. I seriously doubt most sites get 50% trial to full membership.
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                                                                    • BJ
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                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                      • 5590

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I get $1500 per member.

                                                                      believe it!

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                                                                      • Big Monkie
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                        • 382

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by kevinl
                                                                        about every six months i sign up for a trial and download all the new ones. How many other people do you think do this.
                                                                        Of course a percentage do that but how many? Why do the better avs premium systems consistently rebill at 80%?

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                                                                        • Jizzman
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                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                          • 379

                                                                          #37
                                                                          well here's a real stat, no bs, I sent just over 300 sales in one month to a niche site with exclusive quality content and it rebilled at 34%, a similar site that I sent about 90 sales to rebilled at 44%, anyone claiming much higher than that Id like to signup and promote em

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                                                                          • FlyingIguana
                                                                            aspiring banker
                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                            • 10870

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Jizzman
                                                                            well here's a real stat, no bs, I sent just over 300 sales in one month to a niche site with exclusive quality content and it rebilled at 34%, a similar site that I sent about 90 sales to rebilled at 44%, anyone claiming much higher than that Id like to signup and promote em
                                                                            wouldn't anyone? anything over 40% is good. 50% is great and a real keeper.

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                                                                            • Troels
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                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                              • 1035

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Boring.

                                                                              Anyone over 40% would have a megaprogram.

                                                                              In all - they are full of shit.
                                                                              Keep crying at the black-jew wall.
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                                                                              And sexsearch.com profit from it.
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                                                                              • FlyingIguana
                                                                                aspiring banker
                                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                                • 10870

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Troels
                                                                                Boring.

                                                                                Anyone over 40% would have a megaprogram.

                                                                                In all - they are full of shit.
                                                                                Keep crying at the black-jew wall.
                                                                                funny

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                                                                                • Troels
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                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                  • 1035

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  No, it's not funny.
                                                                                  Move on - who's a victim nowadays....

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                                                                                  • slapass
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                                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                                    • 14625

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I know of a major program that does 10% or less. I switched to PPS option and I do great but I still see their stats and I have no clue how they make it.
                                                                                    I think the only sites that hit mega rebills are the single girl sites where the guy gets hooked.

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                                                                                    • cash69
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                      • 1052

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      all depends.. free trial sign ups convert 30 - 40%.. becuase alot will sign up becuase it's free and take the free 2 days and then cancel... paid trials 1.99$ or 4.95$ will convert alot higher becuase they don't mind paying for a good site.. if you have only full month memberships.. 29.95 - 39.95 you should be 80%..

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                                                                                      • cash69
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                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                        • 1052

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by amph


                                                                                        envy?
                                                                                        i know someone who has over 90% rebill rate and a big member base. Its all about how you treat the members, the content, and how often u update. you are full of shit
                                                                                        that's weird.. considering at least 20% are declined rebills.. not everyone is made out of money.. most have about 200$ max credit on their card.. 90% is impossible in my mind..

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                                                                                        • Pipecrew
                                                                                          Master of Gfy.com
                                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                                          • 14888

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by amph


                                                                                          envy?
                                                                                          i know someone who has over 90% rebill rate and a big member base. Its all about how you treat the members, the content, and how often u update. you are full of shit
                                                                                          Shutup you fucking tool, Do you expect anyone to take you seriously? Two days ago you were on GFY begging for traffic for people to test your site, MEANWHILE, you didnt realize the buttons on your JOIN PAGE WERE NOT LINKED.....

                                                                                          Like are you honestly that Mentally retarded? You want to convince us you know anything about retention? your site is on fucking adultbouncer HAHAHAHA, break off on your own and then maybee people will listen.

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                                                                                          • JDog
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                                                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                                                            • 7453

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Troels
                                                                                            Anyone claiming 50% + retention on their adult site AND offer short trials are full of shit.
                                                                                            I can't say that is fully true, I've had a couple keep rebills at 70% and some keep rebills for 11 months! Can't say that is fully true!

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                                                                                            • Troels
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                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                              • 1035

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Rebills at 70%?
                                                                                              Keeping them on for 11 months?

                                                                                              You - are full of shit.





                                                                                              If that was true - why the fuck aren't they rocking the adult world?

                                                                                              I just saw your signature - you are full of shit.
                                                                                              You are promoting someone else.

                                                                                              If you knew the wholy grail you would be promoting it.

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                                                                                              • cash69
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                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                • 1052

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                with retention at 70% from a free trial.. and rebilling for 11 months... when are they putting up a 250$ per sign up site?

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                                                                                                • Troels
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                                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                                  • 1035

                                                                                                  #49
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                                                                                                  who the fuck are we kidding.
                                                                                                  These guys steal your signups: Read here.
                                                                                                  And sexsearch.com profit from it.
                                                                                                  Check out which sponsors pay thieves here.
                                                                                                  And here's a list of clean sponsors.

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                                                                                                  • sacX
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                                                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                                                    • 2998

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    conversion % is meaningless, it seems.

                                                                                                    What is more interesting is, what is the best average amount of cash you have got per paid signup from programs you use?
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