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  • SexySarah
    So Fucking Banned
    • May 2003
    • 1076
    #101
    Originally posted by socalcash
    By the way...

    A person is not un ethical for overcharging someone on a porn site nor are they a bad business man. BOSSHAWG runs a solid business and has always been ethical in our dealings. What u think about his promotion is completely seperate.

    Im sure %75 of all programs that were around before 99 have bent the rules many times beyond belief.....

    Because someone else has done something, by you doing it doesn't make it any more ethical. It simply means you're lowering yourself to their level.




    <b>100 you cock smokers.</b>

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      • socalcash
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2003
        • 323
        #102
        Sarah,

        Im lost...

        Are u inferring that I think that following whats wrong is ok?

        Or

        Was this just a statement of opinion?
        SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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          • SexySarah
            So Fucking Banned
            • May 2003
            • 1076
            #103
            Originally posted by socalcash
            Sarah,

            Im lost...

            Are u inferring that I think that following whats wrong is ok?

            Or

            Was this just a statement of opinion?

            Perhaps I misunderstood your post.

            It seemed that you used the argument many others on this board do:

            MSN/AOL/Gyms...etc. do it so what's the problem with us doing it too?

            My point was, following 'borderline' business practices of others makes it no more ethical.

            At least if people would have those fucking cross-sell boxes as *unchecked* initially ...

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              • Far-L
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2002
                • 6065
                #104
                Ron: Nice to see you raising these issues... no matter what anyone says or what side they take... debates like this are worthwhile and necessary for the health of the industry...
                HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
                Contact                 - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl
                Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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                  • Josh
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 1450
                    #105
                    Just seems to me like someone is a little jealous of the Hawgs.
                    Last edited by Joshua; 06-20-2003, 03:18 PM.
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                      • fantasyman
                        Let's do some business together
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 973
                        #106
                        Originally posted by Josh
                        Just seems to me like someone is a little jealous of the Hawgs.
                        If you think this has anything to do with jealousy, you obviously don't care about ripping off consumers.

                        Before you make a comment like this, go sign up for one of these sites. Come back here after and tell me about jealousy

                        Also, paying $20 to $45 to Webmasters when billing the consumer $160 is a nice profit - don't you think Webmasters should be paid more?

                        What is there to be jealous about?

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                          • FreeHugeMovies
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 14142
                            #107
                            Fantasy you look like a hater my friend. If you wanna call him at least make a thread about it instead of spamming in his.

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                              • bigdog
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2001
                                • 6964
                                #108
                                Originally posted by fantasyman


                                If you think this has anything to do with jealousy, you obviously don't care about ripping off consumers.

                                Before you make a comment like this, go sign up for one of these sites. Come back here after and tell me about jealousy

                                Also, paying $20 to $45 to Webmasters when billing the consumer $160 is a nice profit - don't you think Webmasters should be paid more?

                                What is there to be jealous about?
                                i have to agree with that they should pay out more then $20 on the low end

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                                  • Jakke PNG
                                    ex-TeenGodFather
                                    • Nov 2001
                                    • 20306
                                    #109
                                    I like to see BIG guys fight once in a while. Higher stakes always make me feel like a champ, even though I'm not related to the issue at hand.
                                    ..and I'm off.

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                                      • fantasyman
                                        Let's do some business together
                                        • Dec 2001
                                        • 973
                                        #110
                                        Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
                                        Fantasy you look like a hater my friend. If you wanna call him at least make a thread about it instead of spamming in his.
                                        I'm definitely not your friend. I'm far from a hater. So what else do you have to tell me?

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                                          • socalcash
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Apr 2003
                                            • 323
                                            #111
                                            Thats correct Sarah.

                                            I dont support following whats wrong even if everyone is doing it. However, my comment was in relation to BOSS HAWG and his program in general. If wants to charge his customer $160, make money on the EZCLICKS and assume that their going to cancel the next minute......thats fine. U may not like it...FM may not like it...regardless, it's his program and his decision. That is why there are 50 programs out there. We promote who we like for what they do. We still charge our members $24.95 a month. Most people would say were crazy but we continue to keep our members for ever and ever. Its all about business models and risks. It has nothing to do with ethics.
                                            SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                              • Rich
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Jan 2003
                                                • 11486
                                                #112
                                                Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
                                                Fantasy you look like a hater my friend. If you wanna call him at least make a thread about it instead of spamming in his.
                                                yeah right, if you think Boss isn't going to get a ton of extra traffic because of this thread being good, you're nuts. I'm sure FM got some new business too. Not that either of them really need it.

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                                                  • juice
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                    • 628
                                                    #113
                                                    Originally posted by fantasyman
                                                    Each time a consumer gets billed 4 times when they think they will be charged once, that consumer will never enter their credit card on the internet again. These type of programs will create the downfall of our industry.
                                                    valid point

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                                                      • DarkJedi
                                                        No Refunds Issued.
                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                        • 28301
                                                        #114
                                                        Hawgs rock !!

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                                                          • fantasyman
                                                            Let's do some business together
                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                            • 973
                                                            #115
                                                            Originally posted by Rich


                                                            yeah right, if you think Boss isn't going to get a ton of extra traffic because of this thread being good, you're nuts. I'm sure FM got some new business too. Not that either of them really need it.
                                                            who's the hater

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                                                              • Far-L
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                • 6065
                                                                #116
                                                                Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
                                                                Fantasy you look like a hater my friend. If you wanna call him at least make a thread about it instead of spamming in his.
                                                                Ron is not spamming if he has his banner in his posts like everyone else...

                                                                The points raised are valid and pertinent.

                                                                How about addressing the merits of the points rather than making this personal?

                                                                The popcorn will still taste just as good...
                                                                HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
                                                                Contact                                                                 - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl
                                                                Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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                                                                  • angeleyes
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                    • 3584
                                                                    #117
                                                                    I think this is getting a little out of hand. Some of you are going to like us and want to send traffic, others are not. Some of you are loyal to FM, and others are not. Yes, I am bias because the "crew" at the Hawgs office is like a second family to me because I'm so far away from my own. They are good people, and I just felt the need to put my in. I have nothing bad to say about any other program out there. You all pick and choose who you want and who works for you. Possibly I'm being a little over emotional because I came home to find one of my cats passed away, but what I am trying to say is----- let it be. Those who know us and know we are trust worthy--stick with us!!! If you have a "beef" (that word sounds so stupid coming from a girl)..... then just don't join, there is no need for the flaming.

                                                                    With all of that said... I hope you all have a good night.
                                                                    Need a Writer? Contact Me. I write quality descriptions, short erotic stories, quality one-liners.. whatever you need.

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                                                                      • Rich
                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                        • 11486
                                                                        #118
                                                                        Originally posted by fantasyman


                                                                        who's the hater
                                                                        Not I, you guys may not need the business, but you deserve it. This is a great thread, and you both have great programs.

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                                                                          • Mazer Rackus
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Apr 2002
                                                                            • 333
                                                                            #119
                                                                            Boss Hawg and his krew are the nicest people in this idustry, and their programs have always kicked ass

                                                                            btw, fantasyman - your coming into this thread and commenting on hawgs' programs looks kinda strange (to say the least)

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                                                                              • Pipecrew
                                                                                Master of Gfy.com
                                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                                • 14888
                                                                                #120
                                                                                I must say, something is obviously fucked up when you can offer 75 bucks for a signup. So far it seems only Fantasyman is the one to look at it without googly eyes, all kinds of webmasters are flocking to this because they think they will make a killing, sometimes its better to sit back and watch.. Should be interesting to see how this all plays out.

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                                                                                  • Jakke PNG
                                                                                    ex-TeenGodFather
                                                                                    • Nov 2001
                                                                                    • 20306
                                                                                    #121
                                                                                    Originally posted by Pipecrew
                                                                                    I must say, something is obviously fucked up when you can offer 75 bucks for a signup.
                                                                                    I've seen bigger 1-day specials...
                                                                                    ..and I'm off.

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                                                                                      • Pipecrew
                                                                                        Master of Gfy.com
                                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                                        • 14888
                                                                                        #122
                                                                                        Originally posted by TeenGodFather

                                                                                        I've seen bigger 1-day specials...

                                                                                        http://www.pipecrew.com 150 per signup?

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                                                                                          • Jakke PNG
                                                                                            ex-TeenGodFather
                                                                                            • Nov 2001
                                                                                            • 20306
                                                                                            #123
                                                                                            Originally posted by Pipecrew



                                                                                            http://www.pipecrew.com 150 per signup?
                                                                                            I'm not elite enough for it. I wish I was.
                                                                                            ..and I'm off.

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                                                                                              • Snake Doctor
                                                                                                I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                                • Mar 2001
                                                                                                • 13449
                                                                                                #124
                                                                                                Originally posted by Pipecrew
                                                                                                I must say, something is obviously fucked up when you can offer 75 bucks for a signup. So far it seems only Fantasyman is the one to look at it without googly eyes, all kinds of webmasters are flocking to this because they think they will make a killing, sometimes its better to sit back and watch.. Should be interesting to see how this all plays out.
                                                                                                I don't want to get involved in the rest of what's going on in this thread, but quite a few programs have had $75 days.
                                                                                                Its only for one day, and obviously they're losing money on that particular day.

                                                                                                But its only for one day
                                                                                                sig too big

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                                                                                                  • howard
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                                                    • 1827
                                                                                                    #125
                                                                                                    Subject: Lovercash conversions

                                                                                                    Take it from a company that mails out to lovercash on a weekly basic.

                                                                                                    Delivery to 5 million ( double opt) equals 100 sign ups

                                                                                                    We-adultplex--have been sending them every week and they convert and pay like clockwork.

                                                                                                    Anyone who doesn't take advantage of tomorrow $75 day is foolish.

                                                                                                    It's worth it at there normal payouts of $20 to $30.

                                                                                                    BTW--dating sites with adult tarffic convert better than adultsites
                                                                                                    anymore. It's been moving this way at least the past year to 6 moths.

                                                                                                    If people with traffic divided half there traffic to dating sites and half to adult they would make more money than sending it to all adult sites.

                                                                                                    Traffic is all I do and people who take this advise will thank me if there not already doing so. It's just plain simple make proven to my company over the past year.

                                                                                                    I just into the traffic end--but all I here and it totatly makes sense--members stay members longer to dating sites than adult sites. And its easier to convert. Yes--I am saying dating sites convert better than adult anymore. You can't do 1 or another. To maximize your profits you should be diding your traffic half and half.

                                                                                                    And I speak from knoledge because traffic is my only job.

                                                                                                    Just giving you all the facts.

                                                                                                    But when your looking for adult we at adultplex offer the highest payments for free sign ups at $37.50.. Though I would throw that it.

                                                                                                    Boss Hawg Rocks and your all fools not to try it if you haven't already.

                                                                                                    howard

                                                                                                    www.adultplex.com
                                                                                                    perkissmedia.com

                                                                                                    [email protected]
                                                                                                    318621803
                                                                                                    perkymon993 Skype

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                                                                                                      • howard
                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                                                        • 1827
                                                                                                        #126
                                                                                                        BTW---Boss doing $75 is nutz with how they convert
                                                                                                        and I'm just being honest. Everone should try it. You got
                                                                                                        3 hours to get them links up.

                                                                                                        On the same token many other dating sites convert great too.

                                                                                                        I don't want to leave out the others we promote. All have great
                                                                                                        reputations and convert great. Honestly, I suggest all of them.


                                                                                                        www.lovercash.com
                                                                                                        www.pussycash.com
                                                                                                        www.lovedollars.com
                                                                                                        www.friendfinder.com
                                                                                                        www.date.com
                                                                                                        www.mr-cash.com (there dating site)

                                                                                                        h
                                                                                                        perkissmedia.com

                                                                                                        [email protected]
                                                                                                        318621803
                                                                                                        perkymon993 Skype

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                                                                                                          • Pointless
                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                                                                            • 2142
                                                                                                            #127
                                                                                                            no wonder visa is cracking down
                                                                                                            355 north
                                                                                                            Adultdatelink.com

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                                                                                                              • asuna
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • May 2002
                                                                                                                • 8743
                                                                                                                #128
                                                                                                                how long does it take to get approved?

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                                                                                                                  • JerseyPuma
                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                                                                    • 1149
                                                                                                                    #129
                                                                                                                    I have only three words to say about all this talk:

                                                                                                                    Dinosaurs will die.

                                                                                                                    FM - nobody can take away from the fact that you are the original man in this industry. You brought the thunder back in the day, and youre still reaping the benefits (I saw your cars on Ebay, rest assured). But as many times as you bark about paying on upsells and dialer this and that, the simple truth is that your CEMags was/is nothing more than a FreeEzineBucks with some bells and whistles, and these new XXX All Access Passes are your answer to our Tickets. So you call your ezines "mags" and your tickets "passes"...in the end, a blatant ripoff is a blatant ripoff no matter what you call it by. And rest assured, myself and my associates here will be vigilantly watching the boards so we can lay waste to your threads as quickly as you tried to decimate this one.

                                                                                                                    That being said, only two hours left to get your LoverCash links up and make the easiest 75 bucks of your life for your free joins. Simple as that...you want money, we want to give it to you. And we wont even make you look at pictures of our cars on Ebay or listen to our pre-pubescent "fo shizzle my nizzle" rants like a star trek fan club member trying to sound cool at a high school party.
                                                                                                                    LOVERCASH.COM
                                                                                                                    good dating sites.

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                                                                                                                      • scorpion3600
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                        • 623
                                                                                                                        #130
                                                                                                                        [QUOTE]Originally posted by howard
                                                                                                                        [B]Subject: Lovercash conversions

                                                                                                                        Take it from a company that mails out to lovercash on a weekly basic.

                                                                                                                        Delivery to 5 million ( double opt) equals 100 sign ups

                                                                                                                        ]

                                                                                                                        1:50,000 conversion? Is it me or does that sound awfully poor?

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                                                                                                                          • xxweekxx
                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                            • 6780
                                                                                                                            #131
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by JerseyPuma
                                                                                                                            I have only three words to say about all this talk:

                                                                                                                            Dinosaurs will die.

                                                                                                                            FM - nobody can take away from the fact that you are the original man in this industry. You brought the thunder back in the day, and youre still reaping the benefits (I saw your cars on Ebay, rest assured). But as many times as you bark about paying on upsells and dialer this and that, the simple truth is that your CEMags was/is nothing more than a FreeEzineBucks with some bells and whistles, and these new XXX All Access Passes are your answer to our Tickets. So you call your ezines "mags" and your tickets "passes"...in the end, a blatant ripoff is a blatant ripoff no matter what you call it by. And rest assured, myself and my associates here will be vigilantly watching the boards so we can lay waste to your threads as quickly as you tried to decimate this one.

                                                                                                                            That being said, only two hours left to get your LoverCash links up and make the easiest 75 bucks of your life for your free joins. Simple as that...you want money, we want to give it to you. And we wont even make you look at pictures of our cars on Ebay or listen to our pre-pubescent "fo shizzle my nizzle" rants like a star trek fan club member trying to sound cool at a high school party.

                                                                                                                            haha 0wned
                                                                                                                            _________________
                                                                                                                            I am the best

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                                                                                                                              • xxweekxx
                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                • 6780
                                                                                                                                #132
                                                                                                                                [QUOTE]Originally posted by scorpion3600
                                                                                                                                [B]
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by howard
                                                                                                                                Subject: Lovercash conversions

                                                                                                                                Take it from a company that mails out to lovercash on a weekly basic.

                                                                                                                                Delivery to 5 million ( double opt) equals 100 sign ups

                                                                                                                                ]

                                                                                                                                1:50,000 conversion? Is it me or does that sound awfully poor?
                                                                                                                                Email delivered to 5mil people. not 5mil clicks. from 5mil emails expect maybe 25,000 clicks if you are lucky.

                                                                                                                                So thats 1:200 ratio. but im thinking less than 25,000 clicks, since 0.5% clickthru from spam is high
                                                                                                                                _________________
                                                                                                                                I am the best

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                                                                                                                                  • JerseyPuma
                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                                                                                    • 1149
                                                                                                                                    #133
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by asuna
                                                                                                                                    how long does it take to get approved?
                                                                                                                                    whats your email address, ill approve you right now.
                                                                                                                                    LOVERCASH.COM
                                                                                                                                    good dating sites.

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                                                                                                                                      • SexySarah
                                                                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                                                                                        • 1076
                                                                                                                                        #134
                                                                                                                                        All the FM hating makes me laugh.

                                                                                                                                        So much jealousy on this board.

                                                                                                                                        People hate what they will never be.

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                                                                                                                                          • Butrflied
                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                            • 1344
                                                                                                                                            #135
                                                                                                                                            Hey guys .. I'm turning 25 at midnight .. guess the guys picked $75 dollar day for tomorrow 'cause its my birthday!! not really .. anyways i'll be here for a while .. so if you want your application approved hit me up on ICQ .. 2912929 ..

                                                                                                                                            oh yeah .. HIYA p00p!!!
                                                                                                                                            ~Butrflied~

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                                                                                                                                              • SexySarah
                                                                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                • 1076
                                                                                                                                                #136
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by xxweekxx


                                                                                                                                                Email delivered to 5mil people. not 5mil clicks. from 5mil emails expect maybe 25,000 clicks if you are lucky.

                                                                                                                                                So thats 1:200 ratio. but im thinking less than 25,000 clicks, since 0.5% clickthru from spam is high
                                                                                                                                                It's not spam.

                                                                                                                                                It's double opt-in.

                                                                                                                                                Get your euphemisms correct.

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                                                                                                                                                  • xxweekxx
                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                    • 6780
                                                                                                                                                    #137
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by SexySarah


                                                                                                                                                    It's not spam.

                                                                                                                                                    It's double opt-in.

                                                                                                                                                    Get your euphemisms correct.
                                                                                                                                                    5mil double opt-in..



                                                                                                                                                    Yeah i do triple opt-in campaings too.

                                                                                                                                                    I even call them to confirm!
                                                                                                                                                    _________________
                                                                                                                                                    I am the best

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                                                                                                                                                      • The Truth Hurts
                                                                                                                                                        Zph7YXfjMhg
                                                                                                                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                        • 15796
                                                                                                                                                        #138
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by JerseyPuma

                                                                                                                                                        CEMags was/is nothing more than a FreeEzineBucks with some bells and whistles, and these new XXX All Access Passes are your answer to our Tickets. So you call your ezines "mags" and your tickets "passes"...in the end, a blatant ripoff is a blatant ripoff no matter what you call it by.
                                                                                                                                                        Get a fucking grip..
                                                                                                                                                        Unless you're claiming FEB or FTC were original ideas..
                                                                                                                                                        in which case, get a history lesson..

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                                                                                                                                                          • p00p
                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                            • 5125
                                                                                                                                                            #139
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Butrflied
                                                                                                                                                            Hey guys .. I'm turning 25 at midnight .. guess the guys picked $75 dollar day for tomorrow 'cause its my birthday!! not really .. anyways i'll be here for a while .. so if you want your application approved hit me up on ICQ .. 2912929 ..

                                                                                                                                                            oh yeah .. HIYA p00p!!!
                                                                                                                                                            Happy Birthday, gorgeous!
                                                                                                                                                            ICQ: 316365783
                                                                                                                                                            <a href="http://www.hostultra.com/~p00p" target="_blank">TEST</a>

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                                                                                                                                                              • Butrflied
                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                • 1344
                                                                                                                                                                #140
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by p00p

                                                                                                                                                                Happy Birthday, gorgeous!
                                                                                                                                                                awww .. there you are!! Thank you !!!
                                                                                                                                                                ~Butrflied~

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                                                                                                                                                                  • Probono
                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                    • 2731
                                                                                                                                                                    #141
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by howard
                                                                                                                                                                    Subject: Lovercash conversions

                                                                                                                                                                    Take it from a company that mails out to lovercash on a weekly basic.

                                                                                                                                                                    Delivery to 5 million ( double opt) equals 100 sign ups

                                                                                                                                                                    We-adultplex--have been sending them every week and they convert and pay like clockwork.

                                                                                                                                                                    Anyone who doesn't take advantage of tomorrow $75 day is foolish.

                                                                                                                                                                    It's worth it at there normal payouts of $20 to $30.

                                                                                                                                                                    BTW--dating sites with adult tarffic convert better than adultsites
                                                                                                                                                                    anymore. It's been moving this way at least the past year to 6 moths.

                                                                                                                                                                    If people with traffic divided half there traffic to dating sites and half to adult they would make more money than sending it to all adult sites.

                                                                                                                                                                    Traffic is all I do and people who take this advise will thank me if there not already doing so. It's just plain simple make proven to my company over the past year.

                                                                                                                                                                    I just into the traffic end--but all I here and it totatly makes sense--members stay members longer to dating sites than adult sites. And its easier to convert. Yes--I am saying dating sites convert better than adult anymore. You can't do 1 or another. To maximize your profits you should be diding your traffic half and half.

                                                                                                                                                                    And I speak from knoledge because traffic is my only job.

                                                                                                                                                                    Just giving you all the facts.

                                                                                                                                                                    But when your looking for adult we at adultplex offer the highest payments for free sign ups at $37.50.. Though I would throw that it.

                                                                                                                                                                    Boss Hawg Rocks and your all fools not to try it if you haven't already.

                                                                                                                                                                    howard

                                                                                                                                                                    www.adultplex.com
                                                                                                                                                                    You are the same form of sleeze the the Hawg is. You are the type of scum that is causing all the honest people in this business pain.

                                                                                                                                                                    This is from your 30 minute free trial. You need to cancel 3 days in advance to keep from being billed on a 30 minute free trial. FRAUD!

                                                                                                                                                                    BY CLICKING ABOVE YOU AGREE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE MEMBERSHIPS AUTOMATICALLY RENEW AT THE THEN CURRENT MONTHLY RATE UNLESS YOUR SUBSCRIPTION IS CANCELLED AT LEAST 3 DAYS PRIOR TO THE END OF THE CURRENT TERM AND THAT YOU AGREE TO THE TERMS & CONDITIONS OF MEMBERSHIP. FOR MORE INFORMATION ON AUTOMATIC RENEWALS AND CANCELLING PLEASE READ THE TERMS & CONDITIONS AND CONTACT CUSTOMER SERVICE.

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                                                                                                                                                                      • angeleyes
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                        • 3584
                                                                                                                                                                        #142
                                                                                                                                                                        Hawg is NOT sleeze. Why does everyone feel the need to be so nasty on a simple annoucement thread? If you don't want to participate, don't....... it's quite simple. Have you ever met him? The brothers are the kind of people you wish there were more of. I've met most of their family and they are just KIND people, period, end of subject. If you don't like the programs don't use them, don't bash. I have never bashed in another sponsors thread. I don't bash at all. (Other than the person that compared pets to Cockroaches) but that was well deserved.
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Probono
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                            • 2731
                                                                                                                                                                            #143
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by angeleyes
                                                                                                                                                                            Hawg is NOT sleeze. Why does everyone feel the need to be so nasty on a simple annoucement thread? If you don't want to participate, don't....... it's quite simple. Have you ever met him? The brothers are the kind of people you wish there were more of. I've met most of their family and they are just KIND people, period, end of subject. If you don't like the programs don't use them, don't bash. I have never bashed in another sponsors thread. I don't bash at all. (Other than the person that compared pets to Cockroaches) but that was well deserved.
                                                                                                                                                                            YOU WOULD BE 100% CORRECT IS WE WERE NOT ALL FORCED TO PAY THE PRICE WITH VISA AND MASTERCARD FORM FUCKING SCAMMERS LIKE THIS.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • p00p
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                • 5125
                                                                                                                                                                                #144
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by angeleyes
                                                                                                                                                                                Hawg is NOT sleeze. Why does everyone feel the need to be so nasty on a simple annoucement thread? If you don't want to participate, don't....... it's quite simple. Have you ever met him? The brothers are the kind of people you wish there were more of. I've met most of their family and they are just KIND people, period, end of subject. If you don't like the programs don't use them, don't bash. I have never bashed in another sponsors thread. I don't bash at all. (Other than the person that compared pets to Cockroaches) but that was well deserved.
                                                                                                                                                                                Don't sweat it girl.
                                                                                                                                                                                Either people are going to sign up for your program, or they aren't. Done deal.
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mike AI
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 3624
                                                                                                                                                                                    #145
                                                                                                                                                                                    Webmasters should pay attention to how much consumers are charged when they send traffic to a site, especially when there is a lofty payout. Each time a consumer gets billed 4 times when they think they will be charged once, that consumer will never enter their credit card on the internet again. These type of programs will create the downfall of our industry.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Wow!! Never thought I would see Ron post these words.... Thas past 5 years it was me saying this to him!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                    Welcome aboard the train Ron, plenty of room for you!



                                                                                                                                                                                    Last edited by Mike AI; 06-20-2003, 08:59 PM.


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                                                                                                                                                                                      • fantasyman
                                                                                                                                                                                        Let's do some business together
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 973
                                                                                                                                                                                        #146
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by JerseyPuma
                                                                                                                                                                                        But as many times as you bark about paying on upsells and dialer this and that, the simple truth is that your CEMags was/is nothing more than a FreeEzineBucks with some bells and whistles, and these new XXX All Access Passes are your answer to our Tickets. So you call your ezines "mags" and your tickets "passes"...in the end, a blatant ripoff is a blatant ripoff no matter what you call it by. And rest assured, myself and my associates here will be vigilantly watching the boards so we can lay waste to your threads as quickly as you tried to decimate this one.
                                                                                                                                                                                        FreeEzineBucks and Tickets are knockoffs of RiskyMail and Teen-Mail which were around before you were born, Get a grip!! For that matter all affiliate programs knocked of CE's original FastCash - you should really check the history before you accuse someone of knocking off aprogram!!

                                                                                                                                                                                        And if you think it's ok to bill a consumer 4 times in one sign up process for $160 - you should at least payout $140 a sign up all the time!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • BossHawg
                                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 549
                                                                                                                                                                                            #147
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Mike AI


                                                                                                                                                                                            Wow!! Never thought I would see Ron post these words.... Thas past 5 years it was me saying this to him!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                            Welcome aboard the train Ron, plenty of room for you!

                                                                                                                                                                                            I just got home, but about off to sleep...

                                                                                                                                                                                            MikeAI..I respect you and like MOST of your posts...BUT go peep FM's join page. Disclosure is MUCH Less than any of my paysites or any other paysite regardless if he believes that is what the FTC wants in his opinion...

                                                                                                                                                                                            Probono...what happens when the user joins our site and doesnt take any upsells. We pay UP TO $45 per FREE TRIAL ($20-45) and get $0 in return. You know how many take those upsells. WAY less than you would think..especially with dating sites..Dont less FM brainwash you into thinking the surfer is getting charged $140...He forgets to mention he has NO mention of his upsell on his join page or any of the billing terms except in a small popup box that nobody reads..real ethical there...

                                                                                                                                                                                            I am done pissing..it is past 12:00 so if you are not sending to us you are losing money GET SOME!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • neuromancer
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 281
                                                                                                                                                                                                #148
                                                                                                                                                                                                Mmm, old school board entertainment.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Hooper
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 2210
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Interesting thread for so many reasons.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • xxweekxx
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 6780
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #150
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Hawg's are good people.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I personally want Boss to have 2 of my kids
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