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how much $ to start a BIG paysite?

06-19-2003, 09:22 PM

hey guys, I have wonderful dreams for what I might do with my $ in a few months. I would like to open a pretty big paysite

in general, how much does a big paysite cost to make? (mostly exclusive content, designs, advertising and all) ?

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06-19-2003, 09:24 PM

well i would say save at least a good 10k to be sure,
it can be done for cheaper if u do everything yourself but thats not usually the case.
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06-19-2003, 09:26 PM

$10-$20 K

easy. can be done for less. email me for some tips

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06-19-2003, 09:26 PM

wow very cool!
and this is for a pretty damn BIG paysite?
I was imagining some 40-50k!

this just made my day
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06-19-2003, 09:26 PM

real stuff over 100K BS teen bullshit that will convert 1:100000 10K

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06-19-2003, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by EscortBiz
real stuff over 100K BS teen bullshit that will convert 1:100000 10K

Real numbers from real fuckin people

I was afraid to ask you
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06-19-2003, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by EscortBiz
real stuff over 100K BS teen bullshit that will convert 1:100000 10K

Real numbers from real fuckin people

only a fool would still open a teen site?
u know anything about tgps
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06-19-2003, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by PimpRoll
$10-$20 K

easy. can be done for less. email me for some tips

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06-19-2003, 09:31 PM

Originally posted by MetaMan

only a fool would still open a teen site?
u know anything about tgps

well lots of fools out there and would hate to see someone flush cash down the toilet.

Like the shmucks who contact content guys all day "how much to make a site like quiets?" LMAO

I know nothing about TGP's

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06-19-2003, 09:37 PM

I don't see how it could be done for $10k.

You figure around 125 initial sets at $50 each for just average paysite content, and that's over $6,000. What about really high quality stuff and/or exclusive?

Then there's the weekly updates issue even though not much $ is coming in yet. Even on 3 months losses that's 12 weeks x at least 3 photosets per week. 36 x $50 = another $1,800 at least.

Then again, members area quality doesn't seem to be a big issue with new paysites anymore. Just make the best tour ever and get the surfers money any way you can I guess is how it works.....
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06-19-2003, 09:39 PM

dude- 10-20k will do it. also its possible to open a teen site or anything that is already saturated... but be sure to come with fresh and unique content...

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06-19-2003, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by geps
dude- 10-20k will do it. also its possible to open a teen site or anything that is already saturated... but be sure to come with fresh and unique content...

yup thats why ou make a killing in this biz because you know so much

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06-19-2003, 09:41 PM

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yup thats why ou make a killing in this biz because you know so much

dude, you shouldnt compare your site with the other (10-20k ones) I think
the more you invest in something, the more money you make
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06-19-2003, 09:43 PM

Hmm... teen sites CAN convert if the tour is good enough. I know first hand from my own tours that a ton of people promote happily. I agree with geps, you can take nearly any niche and turn it into a super hot converter if you lend something special to it, like a unique tour concept, exclusive content, innovative promotional ideas, etc.
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06-19-2003, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by MissWetPanties
Hmm... teen sites CAN convert if the tour is good enough. I know first hand from my own tours that a ton of people promote happily. I agree with geps, you can take nearly any niche and turn it into a super hot converter if you lend something special to it, like a unique tour concept, exclusive content, innovative promotional ideas, etc.

agree 100% with you but this business is about retention and not getting that first signup only. Now I dont know your sites to make and statement about your retention etc. but I know true numbers of large teen sites the retention does not come close to sites that are not common content.

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06-19-2003, 09:47 PM

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yup thats why ou make a killing in this biz because you know so much

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06-19-2003, 09:51 PM

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agree 100% with you but this business is about retention and not getting that first signup only. Now I dont know your sites to make and statement about your retention etc. but I know true numbers of large teen sites the retention does not come close to sites that are not common content.

many webmasters dont treat the customers with the respect they should get... and thats the answer to your argument...

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06-19-2003, 09:54 PM

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06-19-2003, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by geps

many webmasters dont treat the customers with the respect they should get... and thats the answer to your argument...

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06-19-2003, 09:56 PM

How about this:

10-15k for content (video/pics) all exclusive
0$ for design
15k for google advertising

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total of 25-30k
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06-19-2003, 09:56 PM

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06-19-2003, 09:57 PM

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06-19-2003, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by GeXus
How about this:

10-15k for content (video/pics) all exclusive
0$ for design
15k for google advertising

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total of 25-30k

How about 16K for google total 26-31K

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06-19-2003, 10:01 PM

You are talking just 1 site? or a program?

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06-19-2003, 10:03 PM

Money Managment and knowing people, You can invest 6k usd and after 3 months make 15k to 18k + /month

These are also not your typical bullshit paysites. I've done it before and am doing it again.
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06-19-2003, 10:03 PM

16k for google?

googles minimum is 5,000 per month for a period of 3 months.. so 5,000x3months is 15,000....

correct me if im wrong
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06-19-2003, 10:04 PM

invest 1 billion dollars *Dr Evil's voice* and you're in business
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06-19-2003, 10:05 PM

you need at least $100k. $200k to do it right while outsourcing promotion. Prebuy traffic.

If ur just gonna do a cookie cutter site that converts average then you can get away with 10k.

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06-19-2003, 10:05 PM

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invest 1 billion dollars *Dr Evil's voice* and you're in business

buy yahoo.com?
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06-19-2003, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by Sausage
you need at least $100k. $200k to do it right while outsourcing promotion. Prebuy traffic.

If ur just gonna do a cookie cutter site that converts average then you can get away with 10k.

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06-19-2003, 10:09 PM

10-15k for content (video/pics) all exclusive

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06-19-2003, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by m0rph3us
10-15k for content (video/pics) all exclusive

Everyone knows you need to waste ATLEAST 3 times that before you have bragging rights
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06-19-2003, 10:12 PM

well the question is ajust to start a paysite or also for say 52 weeks worth of updates

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06-19-2003, 10:13 PM

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agree 100% with you but this business is about retention and not getting that first signup only. Now I dont know your sites to make and statement about your retention etc. but I know true numbers of large teen sites the retention does not come close to sites that are not common content.

Very true, if conversion is queen, then retention is king.

A site has GOT to have good stuff, exclusive stuff, to keep members. I'd lay off the plugins that surfers have seen a million times before. They're not worth the monthly fees in most cases. About the only reason for plugins is for live sex shows (unless you intend to provide that yourself, but not for 10k!) and to inflate the pic/video count for the tour if you feel that's important to your marketing.

Personally, I think telling them you have a substantial amount of EXCLUSIVE content that is really top notch and fits well with the niche is a much better converter than the old "1 million pics and 500,000 videos!" BS that surfers have read a thousand times.

10,000 really good exclusive (or semi exclusive) niche pictures and maybe 1000 videos is a decent start for a site, but it's very important to have regular updates. With a paysite that focuses on exclusive niche content, sometimes even weekly updates might not be enough to satisfy.
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06-19-2003, 10:14 PM

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well the question is ajust to start a paysite or also for say 52 weeks worth of updates

so, you spent 100k on 52 vids?

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06-19-2003, 10:15 PM

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so, you spent 100k on 52 vids?

no lol

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06-19-2003, 10:17 PM

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well the question is ajust to start a paysite or also for say 52 weeks worth of updates

52, try 26 w/same results..
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